banned domain - expired - bought

by seotxl
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Assume that a domain got banned on Google because of Black Hat SEO. Domain expired after a year and I bought it and launched my site on it. Will I also get the legacy ban (though the domain got expired and I bought it as fresh)?
#banned #bought #domain #expired
  • Profile picture of the author mgpweb
    Great question, seotxl one that I never really thought of before. Expired domains are really good to buy and I would also like to know the answer to this question. If anyone has had experience with this it would be great to hear what happened.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    I don't think Google is going to penalize you because G can tell who owns what. Just like you don't get the page rank of an expired domain, it wouldn't make any sense to inherit its ban. You inherit the age of it, and if it was recently expired, you might pick up whatever traffic it had before it expired.

    I have one that was first registered in Aug/09 before I bought it as an expired domain this month. Its indexed and PR0 and the Aug/09 shows up in SEOquake as the domain age.

    You may be able to find out more by doing a site:domain.xxx search in G as it will still be there as cached page at least 90 days from when it expired. If nothing shows up it was either de-indexed, never indexed, or just isn't G's cache any more. If you can see it in the cache then you know at least that it wasn't de-indexed as once a site is de-indexed, its wiped completely from G and there is no cache of it to be found.

    Those are some thoughts on it, but hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this can chime in.

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  • Profile picture of the author KarimPPC
    wouldn't think so.. if it does get you penalized you can easily take it up with the google webmaster forum and they'll sort it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author ysb888
    sure you can buy it because Google will forget it and it will know you are the new owner!
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  • Profile picture of the author danilolee
    You should not have any problems with your expired domain and Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author J3thro M
    LOL, I bought an expiring domain last Dec. 2011. Published 10 unique articles [word count = 1000+ for most articles, drip feeded]. Made backlinks on homepage and inner pages. Made Google analytics, submit sitemap to google websmaster tools. Still it hasn't been indexed by google. So I think the expiring domain I bought got penalized by G. Sighhhhh any help ?
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    I won't suggest choosing this kind of domains, according to limited personal experience, most of time those domains will take longer time to get reindexed by Google for the penalty they've got before. So you'd better check them first before your purchasing.
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    • Profile picture of the author adsenselive
      Originally Posted by StoneWilson View Post

      I won't suggest choosing this kind of domains, according to limited personal experience, most of time those domains will take longer time to get reindexed by Google for the penalty they've got before. So you'd better check them first before your purchasing.
      I agree, I think google probably has a long memory and it strikes me why would they be interested at all in whether a site they had once banned had changed hands or not e.g. the fact that is has changed hands is not really going to be of any interest to them unless its of a youtube/twitter size. Sorry if that seems a bit harsh and I do not want to get shot down in flames as I agree old domains can bring good traffic, but put yourself in their shoes...they probably just don't care and are will have no reason to move it back out of the mythical sandbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Domainate
    Chances are you will have a harder time getting it indexed/ranked. Eventually Google will probably figure out you're a different owner, but keep in mind many black hatters will do everything they can to try and trick Google into thinking the domain is with a new owner in order to get it out of such penalties/bans, so don't assume Google will think it's with a new owner.
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    • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
      You won't get it indexed.

      Get a new domain, start fresh.

      Always make sure when buying a new domain you head over to the WaybackMachine and see if there has ever been a previous website.

      Lesson learned by most of us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adsman68
    If it has a previous block on it, it may not get indexed. I had the same issue. Submitted a reconsideration request with GWT explaining the site was bought as an expired domain and were there any issues from previous ownership ? They indexed my site after manually reviewing the site. They explained that the domain was banned because of spam previously.
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    • Profile picture of the author retroid
      Originally Posted by Adsman68 View Post

      If it has a previous block on it, it may not get indexed. I had the same issue. Submitted a reconsideration request with GWT explaining the site was bought as an expired domain and were there any issues from previous ownership ? They indexed my site after manually reviewing the site. They explained that the domain was banned because of spam previously.
      This... and don't ask for reconsideration with MFA type of site, they won't lift the ban.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I can tell you for sure the ban will remain. You have to request a reinclusion as the new owner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Fool
    Yeah I've had problems with domains like that before...iv'e heard it's possible to get the penalties lifted if you're a new owner if you contact Google and plead your case...but I've never been able to do it successfully...

    Ditch the domain, start fresh...
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I DONT think you inherit the age of the domain, but I am not certain

    once it expires and is deindexed, (assuming it was deindexed) doesnt google Age domains depending on when they first found it? not sure what happens if it expires and is then deindexed and then is reregistered and found again by google
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    After reading all of this, I wouldn't even try it. If I'm interested in an expired domain, I'm following what Spyder said and checking Google's cache of it. If there is no cache, no buy. Not taking any chances on something like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author gamboloyd
      Oh hell. I bought an expired .com cheap and it still hasn't been indexed and now I know why. Time to buy another methinks. Cheers for the info folks, I won't be doing that again.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    yeah agreed. If google once banned the domain...you're better off getting a new one and starting from scratch. If you add articles and links and find that your site still isn't indexed..ummm yeah then there is a problem for sure. I mean I've bought new domains and had them indexed in hours.
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