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AMR

by cooler1
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I have a couple of questions regarding AMR.

Can you submit to too many article directories and it have a negative effect on your site? I only submit to about 600 article directories as I didn't want to overdo it as I intend to submit more articles later with anchor text links to the site. Should I just submit to every article directory possible?

How long after submitting an article, should you create the live links report? Once you have the live links, is pinging the links sufficient to get them indexed or should you create an RSS feed?
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  • Profile picture of the author redtaksaka
    I haven't see any negative effect due to AMR blast on my sites. But, I had read somewhere in other SEO forum that one particular guy complaining that after an AMR blast, his site suffer a dive in SERPS (I'll try to look that thread, and shoot you a PM later on).

    As I keep trying to vary my backlinks as much as possible, I don't believe a well written articles and varied anchor texts for an AMR blast will do anything but good toward my sites:

    1. Only a couple hundreds of article directories are auto approve in AMR database. Giving your site already have a few numbers of decent backlinks, it shouldn't be viewed as "un-natural". Although, it still be debatable.
    2. Your articles will spent sometime before become live due to directories' admin moderation. Well, some good amount will never "alive". This will act like drippable backlinks.
    But, then again I let someone else do the blast for me (found him on fiverr). I just do my part to make a "decent" article in spintax format .
    Blast away my friend, blast away.

    Ps. I know someone who own AMR that schedulled his blast, like 50-100 directories a day. You might want try this approach. I haven't heard any result from him as he just started doing this approach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Clutterbuck
    I have AMR too and think that doing a full blast is not going to be a problem as not all your links are going to get indexed as soon as you submit them.

    As for when to collect the live links, some will be live straight away but most wont. I would say leave it a few days before collecting them

    Once you have collected the links you could ping them, bookmark them, scrapebox them, submit more articles through AMR pointing to them, xrumer. Any form of backlinking can do point them to your articles. this will help with indexing and make your articles more authoritativeness, giving you a stronger link juice from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    As for when to collect the live links, some will be live straight away but most wont. I would say leave it a few days before collecting them
    Only a few days? I've heard that some AD's take about 1 month to approve the article.

    When you create the live links report, is there a way to make it so it only puts the articles which have been approved in the report? As there is obviously no point in pinging links which haven't been approved.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Only a few days? I've heard that some AD's take about 1 month to approve the article.

      When you create the live links report, is there a way to make it so it only puts the articles which have been approved in the report? As there is obviously no point in pinging links which haven't been approved.
      Well, there is kind of a point of diminishing returns - no sense in waiting a month. I wait maybe a week, tops, before collecting up the links.

      To answer your second question, if you export the Livelinks in CSV you can load them up in Excel and then sort by Status so you get all the Approved ones grouped together.

      In terms of strategies, generally I prefer to drip those links out, maybe even on an hourly schedule, in such as way as I know I will get a handful a day. I think with AMR the problem is not so much all those links blasting your site off the face of the SERPS, it's the fact that they have been devalued in some way, and especially you can't really reuse them on the same site to much effect, at least that has been my experience. Once you have used up all your directories on a site that's about it. So I like to use them nice and slowly, not blast them for some temporary SERPS gain, because on higher-competition keywords that might be all the benefit you get from AMR.

      So you have to come up with interesting strategies with AMR - I am still working on that. Set up tier 1 "Web 2.0" properties and blast them with AMR. Or only blast your site with the high-PR directories and then blast THOSE links with the lower-PR ones.

      Like I say, I am still working out the best strategy with AMR as I still think it is a great tool but you have to find what works for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        Well, there is kind of a point of diminishing returns - no sense in waiting a month. I wait maybe a week, tops, before collecting up the links.

        To answer your second question, if you export the Livelinks in CSV you can load them up in Excel and then sort by Status so you get all the Approved ones grouped together.

        In terms of strategies, generally I prefer to drip those links out, maybe even on an hourly schedule, in such as way as I know I will get a handful a day. I think with AMR the problem is not so much all those links blasting your site off the face of the SERPS, it's the fact that they have been devalued in some way, and especially you can't really reuse them on the same site to much effect, at least that has been my experience. Once you have used up all your directories on a site that's about it. So I like to use them nice and slowly, not blast them for some temporary SERPS gain, because on higher-competition keywords that might be all the benefit you get from AMR.

        So you have to come up with interesting strategies with AMR - I am still working on that. Set up tier 1 "Web 2.0" properties and blast them with AMR. Or only blast your site with the high-PR directories and then blast THOSE links with the lower-PR ones.

        Like I say, I am still working out the best strategy with AMR as I still think it is a great tool but you have to find what works for you.
        In Excel how do you sort by status? Last time I clicked Sort & Filter, then clicked Sort A to Z, but it just put the Approved rows at the top of the spreadsheet and didn't move the approved URL's, so the URL's stayed on the same rows as they were before.

        Is it better to create an RSS feed out of the links instead of just pinging them? If so, whats the best tool to use to do this.
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        • Profile picture of the author markowe
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          In Excel how do you sort by status? Last time I clicked Sort & Filter, then clicked Sort A to Z, but it just put the Approved rows at the top of the spreadsheet and didn't move the approved URL's, so the URL's stayed on the same rows as they were before.

          Is it better to create an RSS feed out of the links instead of just pinging them? If so, whats the best tool to use to do this.
          Erm... lemme think. Yeah, I think the problem might be you didn't select ALL the columns that are to be sorted. Then when you sort by the Approve column it OUGHT to keep the rows together, i.e. the correct URLs - try that.

          I am not a big user of RSS feeds, but in the past I have used Create Your Free Hosted RSS Feed In Seconds to create the feeds, and then you can ping them with something else. Or you can get a free Linklicious account and just paste in your links and they will schedule and ping RSS feeds for you over a certain period. Though they claim that the indexing rate isn't that good. Personally, like I say, I like to backlink my Livelinks using a 1000 or so of the lower-quality articles directories, seems to get me the best effects. I even outsource a really cheap and nasty article for those purposes
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by markowe View Post

            Erm... lemme think. Yeah, I think the problem might be you didn't select ALL the columns that are to be sorted. Then when you sort by the Approve column it OUGHT to keep the rows together, i.e. the correct URLs - try that.

            I am not a big user of RSS feeds, but in the past I have used Create Your Free Hosted RSS Feed In Seconds to create the feeds, and then you can ping them with something else. Or you can get a free Linklicious account and just paste in your links and they will schedule and ping RSS feeds for you over a certain period. Though they claim that the indexing rate isn't that good. Personally, like I say, I like to backlink my Livelinks using a 1000 or so of the lower-quality articles directories, seems to get me the best effects. I even outsource a really cheap and nasty article for those purposes
            I tried selecting all the columns by holding down Ctrl then clicking on columns A, B, C, D, E and F, but when I click Sort & Filter, then click Sort A to Z, it says;

            The command you chose cannot be performed with multiple selections.
            Select a single range and click the command again.

            Am I chosing the wrong sort option? Or am I selecting the columns the wrong way?
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            • Profile picture of the author markowe
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              I tried selecting all the columns by holding down Ctrl then clicking on columns A, B, C, D, E and F, but when I click Sort & Filter, then click Sort A to Z, it says;

              The command you chose cannot be performed with multiple selections.
              Select a single range and click the command again.

              Am I chosing the wrong sort option? Or am I selecting the columns the wrong way?
              Ah, OK, I just tried it - for some reason it doesn't work if you use CTRL, I get the same as you. So don't use CTRL, just select the column headings - A, B, C, just by running the mouse across as you hold it down. Then do sort and it will work fine. Weird, what's the difference! That's Microsoft Office for you...
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

    I have a couple of questions regarding AMR.

    Can you submit to too many article directories and it have a negative effect on your site? I only submit to about 600 article directories as I didn't want to overdo it as I intend to submit more articles later with anchor text links to the site. Should I just submit to every article directory possible?

    How long after submitting an article, should you create the live links report? Once you have the live links, is pinging the links sufficient to get them indexed or should you create an RSS feed?
    You can't really do damage to your website by submitting to too many directories because otherwise you could damage your competing sites.

    But submitting too unnaturally, ie; thousands of articles in one day, then the search engines may realize what you are doing and discount all of these links.

    Best thing to do is submit naturally, no matter what automated software you use.
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  • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
    Solid advice from the person that provided the first response.

    One thing that I like to do is make my links spinnable for my site. Meaning that I'll add in just about every variation of keyword matched with their respective pages on the site that I'm linking.

    That way the links that do go live will have a variety of anchor texts and links pointing to the internal pages and not just the homepage. I've had the best results with AMR when implementing this strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author va_mom
    May i ask if you do article blasting, do you point it to your money site? Or you also point some to articles that you have done before? Which is more effective?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew S
      Originally Posted by va_mom View Post

      May i ask if you do article blasting, do you point it to your money site? Or you also point some to articles that you have done before? Which is more effective?

      Thanks.
      pointing decent links to previously posted articles is a waste of links imo
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