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Hi Warriors,

I am searching many backlink techniques.

but many well known tehniques like blog commenting,forum commenting may take time.

I found link wheel technique and seems good to use. but don't know if it is worth to perform this technique since it may take time to complete the wheel.

Whats your suggestions?

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Yes it does take time but if you don't try then you won't know.

    Here is the simple fact:

    The more unique, quality content that you have that links through to more unique, quality content the more visitors you will get and the higher rankings.

    But yes I agree it does take time and it is not always black and white.

    Sometimes you will complete a link wheel and get number 1 on Google - other times you won't even rank.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author gurleen
      Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

      Yes it does take time but if you don't try then you won't know.

      Here is the simple fact:

      The more unique, quality content that you have that links through to more unique, quality content the more visitors you will get and the higher rankings.

      But yes I agree it does take time and it is not always black and white.

      Sometimes you will complete a link wheel and get number 1 on Google - other times you won't even rank.

      Chris
      ya I am totally agree with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by condorx View Post

    don't know if it is worth to perform this technique
    Opinions will differ.

    Two things I can tell you factually (though they're only factual reports of opinion) ...

    (i) The members here who have previously worked on search engine algorithms have all always said in earlier threads about this that linkwheels recognisable as such by search engines don't and won't work at all;

    (ii) The authors of the standard, widely accredited SEO textbooks say that linkwheels recognisable as such don't and won't work at all.

    And three more things which are my own opinion only ...

    (a) Some sort of vaguely link-pyramid-ish structure which additionally includes some randomised cross-links may work;

    (b) There certainly won't be any downside or "Google penalty risk" to trying anything like this on a "home-made/manual scale";

    (c) Call me a skepchick, but in a forum in which many members sell/promote linkwheels as part of their SEO services, it may be a little difficult to gather objective information. For this reason, with no disrespect to anyone, I suspect that the consensus of opinion here - to the extent that there is one - may not be altogether independent.
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    • Profile picture of the author dpwilliams
      I am not sure about link wheels...I've never created one. With that being said...I am sure that having good blogs to post your articles to with links to your pages is a good thing.

      So part of my backlinking method is to create good quality blogs...then when I create a money site I have a great place to begin adding articles for backlinks.

      None of my blogs are linked together in anykind of wheel.

      Deb
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
        It is better to build a complex link pyramid structure than a simple link wheel. Most link pyramids include several 3 to 5 tiers with several properties in each tier. Make the pyramid as unique as possible. Take your time and build something that will last instead of a link wheel that won't rank well in the search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    link wheels with some sort of randomization still do work. here is a link strategy diagram, its not exactly a link wheel, but follows the same concept of passing maximum link juice to your money pages, with some randomization
    http://www.shareaschnitzel.com/blog-...ategy-diagram/

    you will need to take some time to understand this and build out links, but its worth it
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by Blitzian View Post

      link wheels with some sort of randomization still do work. here is a link strategy diagram, its not exactly a link wheel, but follows the same concept of passing maximum link juice to your money pages, with some randomization
      Undetectable Linkwheels – Link Strategy Diagram

      you will need to take some time to understand this and build out links, but its worth it
      you realize that a "sophisticated" linking structure and "randomization" are kind of mutually exclusive

      Otherwise..yes..diversity + RANDOMNESS

      Don't over-think - try to keep it natural and random, but CONSISTENT.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        you realize that a "sophisticated" linking structure and "randomization" are kind of mutually exclusive

        Otherwise..yes..diversity + RANDOMNESS

        Don't over-think - try to keep it natural and random, but CONSISTENT.

        Follow this.

        Link Wheels used to be extremely useful, but the engineers at Google caught on to them.

        Understand that Google tries to identify patterns and crush the ones that are too effective.

        As long as your linking structure follows a clear pattern, your efforts will always be diminished by the power-that-be at Google.

        Diversity and Randomness are key to successful, long-term SEO strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    It depends on where and how you're getting the links.

    Don't waste your time doing it with profile links or splog commenting.

    But if you have videos which point to articles which point to content pages which sell product - then you'll probably be ok.

    If it's all links - to links - to links.. then you're probably barking up the same tree as all the other splinkers (did I just make that word up? Spam Linkers)

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  • Profile picture of the author suxes2005
    OP, i guess you have gotten answer to what
    you need. Do diverse link building
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I think it's overrated and in the WORST case scenario even harmful for your site.

    People in SEO tend to overthink and come up with "sophisticated" link schemes and strategies - but to be frank, for me this is all nonsense.

    When it comes to link building, diversity is important...and USUALLY a simple 2 layer link strategy is more than enough, for example article submissions (to directories) and then backlinked to them from social bookmarks etc. - combined with other stuff like good blog networks etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    Take it as you wish but one of the masters of SEO, Jeremy Schoemaker, says they appear to be quite effective. I know a lot of people that find link wheels (if done right) VERY effective. He discusses it here:

    How SEO Link Wheels Work And Why Are They So Effective?
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Steven Miranda View Post

      Take it as you wish but one of the masters of SEO, Jeremy Schoemaker, says they appear to be quite effective. I know a lot of people that find link wheels (if done right) VERY effective. He discusses it here:

      How SEO Link Wheels Work And Why Are They So Effective?

      I am not against using link wheels, but some of the old patterns no longer work.

      For example, hubspot and squidoo pages no longer carry the value they once did in Google, and that undermines many of the link wheels out there in the real world.

      If you build your link wheels outside of the channels that have been over-played, then link wheels are still very effective.

      As I said before, Google looks for patterns of behavior that they can identify, then squashes people who follow those patterns.

      The trick to make link wheels work is to avoid some of the common stomping grounds of the masses.
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      • Profile picture of the author WilliamBlah
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        Otherwise..yes..diversity + RANDOMNESS

        Don't over-think - try to keep it natural and random, but CONSISTENT.
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Understand that Google tries to identify patterns and crush the ones that are too effective.

        Diversity and Randomness are key to successful, long-term SEO strategies.
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        As I said before, Google looks for patterns of behavior that they can identify, then squashes people who follow those patterns.
        I absolutely second all of the above.

        I am wholeheartedly in favour of achieving as much diversity as possible. If you only create one type of backlink, then you are one algorithm change away from losing the value of your entire backlink portfolio.

        If you have diversity, to the extent that you have 5,6,7...20+ different types of backlinks, then even with a total devaluation of a particular link type, you will hardly suffer. You may even watch your competitors slip and slide right out of the rankings!

        Regards
        Will
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  • Profile picture of the author richardscov
    search around the forum you will find answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author adamhagai
    Have used link wheels before and it really worked well for me. Yes, it takes longer to create a wheel but it is worth your effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author freedomkuf
    Try to do the Profile Link Wheel Strategy, it is really better than just profile linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author summerfranken
    Might this image help you out...
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    • Profile picture of the author seocatalysts
      Originally Posted by summerfranken View Post

      Might this image help you out...
      Yeah it is perfect...There is nothing harmful to use it..You have to just take care of fresh content and exact number of links..
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      • Profile picture of the author megaquests
        Originally Posted by seocatalysts View Post

        Yeah it is perfect...There is nothing harmful to use it..You have to just take care of fresh content and exact number of links..
        this looks pretty : ))
        do you do this manually.. have you got a demo of it in action?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
      Originally Posted by bubblesdavid1 View Post

      Lots of confusion about this link wheel some person told spam google not like at all ..please explain me right or not.i means white hat seo or not

      Thank you advance
      Have you read any of the posts in this thread?
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    always try it out...post content on web2.0 pages and link them up..track the results...but you need to use content which is more effective...
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  • Profile picture of the author carolinehill
    Hello condorx,

    According to me Only Link Wheel activity can't help your website to get backlinks or traffic or ranking. You have to do All SEO Activities like Article, Directory, Press release, Forum Posting, Guest Blogging etc. if you want to rank better than Just Make Quality Backlinks. For it you can Make Submissions in Niche Website, High Page Rank Sites and Niche Website.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcoburn
    Try to make a modified link pyramid and check for the results. Quality contents is always the key for a successful wheel.
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  • Profile picture of the author Habbakuk
    I think the best thing about linkwheels is that you can make them as complicated as you want, and make a super fancy diagram of how it works that makes it look like it will be effective and wow your customers.

    It doesn't mean that it will work....

    I also like people who buy these .edu and .gov link wheels because they are all connected and once I find one of the links, I can follow the links and steal a bunch of .edu and .gov links free.

    I used to make massive linkwheels when I first started SEO. Let's say I've moved on a long time ago....
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  • Profile picture of the author edegreeusa
    Forum and blog commenting takes time? How can you say that? This is the best method for building quality backlinks towards your site. However, since you wanted to know about link wheel then without any it too is an effective method, gives back assured results. For this whatever time will be taken is during writing a blog or article for posting as posting and assigning link to your keywords doesn't takes more than 2 or 3 seconds.
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  • Profile picture of the author f4mu5
    Man this link building thinking is getting out hand. One person think its a food idea and somebody else begs the differ. I guess its all and assumption.
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  • Profile picture of the author gurleen
    Blog commenting and Forum Commenting is a effective step of the seo. Both steps are the part of the off page SEO. Blog commenting and forum commenting is called a link building. It is a long time process. Please use the related site and auto approve blog sites.in this way you can improve the website ranking and traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author sahildd
    Link wheel is the ways for get the backlinks.Before the panda release you can use same article in 10 site but after the panda you should consider on content
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  • Profile picture of the author VASEO
    With a link wheel, you will gain authority from within the major search engines. Chances are you will gain a significant PR boost, traffic and SERP (Search Engine Result Page) ranking by using a link wheel as part of a balanced link building campaign.
    Wish successful!
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  • Profile picture of the author annaharris
    Link wheel is one type of multiway linking.

    forum and blog commenting are very useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author chensmith62
    I think, quality backlink, link wheel, forum signature posting are some good tool. now a days pyramid linking is also on top 5 rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain Dynamo
    From my understanding Link Wheels leave too much of a footprint therefore Googs may end up discounting the links... I'm looking to build 3 and 4 tier link pyramids using web 2.0's instead which to me seems like a better option.
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    • Profile picture of the author megaquests
      Originally Posted by Captain Dynamo View Post

      From my understanding Link Wheels leave too much of a footprint therefore Googs may end up discounting the links... I'm looking to build 3 and 4 tier link pyramids using web 2.0's instead which to me seems like a better option.
      i heard the same that google now spots link wheels a mile off..
      what systems do you use for 3,4 tier 2.0 pyramids?
      sounds so technical
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  • i think in this we use three tier. and post accordingly in each.
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