Can you get banned by google for mass backlinks?

by mooble
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I outsourced a blog comment package for 10k comments, i broke these into rss feeds and pinged them all. I have 4k of them showing in yahoo explorer now as backlinks to my website.

Does google ban sites for this type of thing? If so, do they ban the site in question or will they also ban your entire network of sites? I ask because i read horror stories and some people blame mass backlinks on it.

What about the accusation that google banning for these things is a myth because you can easily do it to your competition?

P.S. I have yet to see any movement up or down a single position in the rankings after 3 weeks of having these 4k backlinks indexed.
#backlinks #banned #google #mass
  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    It seems a bit late to worry about it now as the deed is done, but from what I have read about backlinking you will get different opinions from different people and you won't get a definitve answer one way or the other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daedalus
    I doubt they will ban you, but they could sandbox you for a while. It has happened to me in the past, what I did was I added more content. That got their attention, and in a few weeks I started going up again since all my backlinking at this point was at a steady pace.
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  • Profile picture of the author John A
    First of all, there won't be any permanent ban from google, you might be referring to the sandbox effect (which is temporary). I have done some tests in the past, in which I have blasted more than 10k spammy backlinks to some new sites, and they didn't get sandboxed. This might not apply to your case, but it is just to let you know that the risks of getting sandboxed aren't always very high.

    However, if it did get sandboxed, this would be temporary, and there are ways of getting faster out of the sandbox.

    Anyways, if your rankings changes, then it could also be due to the Google dance. Your site would be constantly bouncing on the search results for some days due to Google looking for an appropiate position for your website. This is not a penalization.

    If your site is new, then next time you should schedule your RSS feed submission and pinging so that you backlinking looks more natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author seo-expert
    Penalized maybe.. Google also tracks the link growth of a website. Any unusual spike will get their attention. Build links "naturally" by doing it manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author John A
    Penalized maybe.. Google also tracks the link growth of a website. Any unusual spike will get their attention. Build links "naturally" by doing it manually.
    There are ways to make your link building look "natural" by using automated methods. Automated tools are effective, VERY effective but only if you know how to use them correctly. Work smarter, not harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author mooble
    Thanks for all the responses. I have not seen any move in my rankings, my site has been in the exact same position since before and 3 weeks after i got those 4k blog comment backlinks to show in yahoo explorer.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    Probably not banned, but you could get a temporary penalty.

    I only do high quality, high PR backlinks to my sites because it's so much more stable and reduces google dance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Izaya
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    • Profile picture of the author discustipated
      I have been reading that google caught on to the loop hole due to people mass linking to comp. and that they took out of the sandbox. Think about it. What if i opened up senuke or something and backlinked thousands of links to your brandnew site. I could be wrong with what i read but if you think about there would be no point to even try to rank a site now days cause anyone could easily do that to the comp. And wouldnt you get fed up with all that and not want to try anymore or would you just keep falling out of the game. Lol
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  • Profile picture of the author jackwebson
    Google can definitely ban your website since you are creating thousands of links in a matter of days. You should have asked that question before you blasted your site with thousands of links.
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    • Profile picture of the author discustipated
      Originally Posted by jackwebson View Post

      Google can definitely ban your website since you are creating thousands of links in a matter of days. You should have asked that question before you blasted your site with thousands of links.
      Hmmm...what happens if i blast your site with 10000 links a day. Do you get banned? Just curious.
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    • Profile picture of the author mooble
      Originally Posted by jackwebson View Post

      Google can definitely ban your website since you are creating thousands of links in a matter of days. You should have asked that question before you blasted your site with thousands of links.
      After reading the majority of comments i'm not to worried about it anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by jackwebson View Post

      Google can definitely ban your website since you are creating thousands of links in a matter of days.
      Originally Posted by talks 44 View Post

      They don't ban like this, they only ban if your link is reported as spam,
      Originally Posted by Theeban View Post

      ....- All these will make Google to ban your site.
      What a load of nonsense. If that was true, then we could easily spam link build to our competitors to get them banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author sydneycraig
    i dont think they will ban you or even sandbox you....they will just ignore all those links....if not then people would be just signing their competitors up for a 100k spammy backlinks to get them sandboxed or banned!!
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    • Profile picture of the author GetKane
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      Originally Posted by sydneycraig View Post

      i dont think they will ban you or even sandbox you....they will just ignore all those links....if not then people would be just signing their competitors up for a 100k spammy backlinks to get them sandboxed or banned!!
      It depends on the age of the domain name. I took one brand new domain name and blasted the stupid out of it while adding hundreds of pages of unique content and its rankings never did as well as the sites I did with natural link building and growth techniques.

      I'm going to recommend quality of quantity, I think you should reserve anything spammy for highly established domains that can handle the barrage of random links.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishseo
    Originally Posted by mooble View Post

    I outsourced a blog comment package for 10k comments, i broke these into rss feeds and pinged them all. I have 4k of them showing in yahoo explorer now as backlinks to my website.

    Does google ban sites for this type of thing? If so, do they ban the site in question or will they also ban your entire network of sites? I ask because i read horror stories and some people blame mass backlinks on it.

    What about the accusation that google banning for these things is a myth because you can easily do it to your competition?

    P.S. I have yet to see any movement up or down a single position in the rankings after 3 weeks of having these 4k backlinks indexed.
    More often than not, people's expectation of what Google "bans" is based on heresay from forums like the WF than actual personal testing. Always test!

    However, I can tell you this from personal experience. When building a large quantity of backlinks in Google, it's generally a bad idea to ping them all and spoon feed your links to Google. I prefer to just build even more backlinks to my backlinks and let Googlebot find them on their own. I can't prove that this works better for sure as there are too many variables but personal testing says this seems to produce better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author eurekapsycrille
    Banning because of mass backlinks? I have seen many people who blasted their site even if they're newly-launched sites and did not get banned. Funny thing about this, is that they've actually get good ranking in SERP and stayed there for a long time.

    They've lost their ranking by few, not because of what they did, but because there have been some "big dogs" that dominated the competition.

    So to conclude, the belief that you might get banned if you build mass backlinks to your site is only a myth (based on what I've seen). So, don't worry in building links to your site. build as much as you can.

    But always remember the Google guidelines to keep you on the right track.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Sandbox? What sandbox? Banned? For mass backlinks?

      Have you people never heard the word, "viral?"

      Nothing would ever go viral, now would it?

      How do you think google is going to actually find those
      massive no-value links so quickly anyway?

      Cause and effect is very mixed up, as usual.

      You outsource for 10,000 blog comments and I guarantee
      google could care less about 9,999 of them, let alone
      actually find them.

      Spend your time and money wisely. You can get so much more juice
      by yourself, in 10 minutes, finding a handful of useful blogs to comment
      on then you ever will doing that 10,000 thing.

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      • Profile picture of the author GetKane
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Sandbox? What sandbox? Banned? For mass backlinks?

        Have you people never heard the word, "viral?"

        Nothing would ever go viral, now would it?

        How do you think google is going to actually find those
        massive no-value links so quickly anyway?

        Cause and effect is very mixed up, as usual.

        You outsource for 10,000 blog comments and I guarantee
        google could care less about 9,999 of them, let alone
        actually find them.

        Spend your time and money wisely. You can get so much more juice
        by yourself, in 10 minutes, finding a handful of useful blogs to comment
        on then you ever will doing that 10,000 thing.

        Paul
        1. If something goes viral it's going to have highly authoritative backlinks as well, not just thousands of blog comments and vb bulletin links.

        2. Viral pages don't normally rank for competitive phrases like "life insurance", they'll rank for the name of whatever it is people are referring to it as like "2 girls 1 cup".

        3. I can speak of this first hand. I had a meme site go viral last year (featured on thechive, TMZ, HuffingtonPost, yada yada) and the only things I ranked for were incorrect and correct variations of the meme. Not to mention I didn't actually care about the search rankings since I knew 70% of the traffic would come from another website copying thechive or someone on any given day.

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        • Profile picture of the author SeoSarah
          Originally Posted by kaneinsurance View Post

          1. If something goes viral it's going to have highly authoritative backlinks as well, not just thousands of blog comments and vb bulletin links.

          2. Viral pages don't normally rank for competitive phrases like "life insurance", they'll rank for the name of whatever it is people are referring to it as like "2 girls 1 cup".

          3. I can speak of this first hand. I had a meme site go viral last year (featured on thechive, TMZ, HuffingtonPost, yada yada) and the only things I ranked for were incorrect and correct variations of the meme. Not to mention I didn't actually care about the search rankings since I knew 70% of the traffic would come from another website copying thechive or someone on any given day.

          Kane
          That's why you don't always use your keywords as anchor. Every decent seo will give you the advice to always mix anchors and even use some non-seo anchors like "this site" and "link" and so on.

          Nobody gets banned because of too much backlinks. If that would be the case, people would just build massive backlinks to their competion to get rid of them.

          The only thing that can happen is, that a new site gets sandboxed. But that's not a ban and it's just a temporary thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    I don't think you get penalized as such for mass backlinks but other things related such as inconsistency, thin content, bad backlinks can get you penalized
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  • Profile picture of the author ydraw2011
    Ok I just read an article on this very thing. A guy did say he was sandboxed but I would have to agree that if google does sandbox people than you could just go after you competitors sites
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Depends if you have any good links yet. The reason why you can't blast competition is because they have established authority already. You have none which is why blasting your site can be bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    Yes, I have a doubt that they may ban you, as far as it is massive backlinks in short time period, other than that, it is blog comments, most of the blog posts which allow commenting become spammy pages later days as far as many people used to spread their links over there - All these will make Google to ban your site.

    However, I hope, if you can get few quality backlinks (say 10 per day - article submissions or blogging etc) and make them get indexed using ping services - you may be in safe. Good luck with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author kfm24
    google will not ban you permanent but you could get sandboxed
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  • Profile picture of the author linkbuildr
    They don't ban, they'll eventually just devalue/discount the links as they are nothing but low quality spam. If you site blows as well then I wouldn't expect this process as a long term business plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rankx
    I don't think your website got banned at all. Maybe it is a sort of sandbox effect. What you need to do is continue doing backlinking but approach it differently. Try to do a little bit of allot of different things and not so much of just one thing. And at this stage, do not get all of the links pinged so that you would get a gradual increase as opposed to a more sudden increase you experience through pinging. So the advice really is to continue.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidYvon
    I think what you can do is just wait and see, and stop to worried about this. But focus on high quality, high PR backlinks would be better in next time.
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    • Profile picture of the author transcribing
      hey,
      If the amount of quality links is higher then i dont think there will be a problem otherwise they could sandbox you. I dont think they will ban you immediately.
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      • Profile picture of the author Logicson
        mostly chance that Google not block your sites...but it's depend upon only Google
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpertSydney
    Well... well ... well.. Now it's not a time regret. You have done it that one before. Now you can wait. You have full chances for Ban however if all are quality links then it may save you. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Antivirus
    Well your doubt it right. Your site may get penalized. Mass back links are the part of black hat seo. And Google only like white hat. Hope your site may have good back links that can help you from not being penalized. Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author webworm
    There is great chance for you to be black listed if you go on on such a huge backlinks on small period.Be careful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnabrahamsp
    If you are a blackhat spammer, then probably your site may get banned. But I have not seen or heard any of one's experience of being banned by Google. Often the ranking goes down significantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crank
    You've just used a black hat technique for your own website. The best that could happen is SE won't penalize you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Do you all realize you are "poopoo-ing" somebody who posted 3 months ago?
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  • Profile picture of the author PinoyPride
    Pinging the backlinks was your mistake. It would have taken Google a long time to find those 10k links and it's not going to happen at one time. It would have happened regularly. But now, you let Google know that there are 10k new backlinks, no thanks to the ping.

    You might get sandboxed. But just continue building links. You'll come back stronger than ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author thetravelbug
    I have just had some links done (wiki links) - probably around 1000 in all. I am thinking to ping these but want to ensure it will not harm my site. My site is a proper business site, not a site for adsense or just money making. I do gradual link building through hubpages, squidoo lens, blogger etc and also article submissions. I have never thought to ping all these before. But as I have just had around 1000 wiki type links done I was going to ping these (there are around 3 batches with 3 sets of keywords) but did not want to do them all at once for fear of the 'sandbox' - we are at a critical time in our business as it is seasonal and just trying to get ahead of the competition.

    I was thinking to ping these - maybe 50 or so links at a time, once a week....or could I do more?

    I know its not a question that can be answered with any guarantee but what do google consider un-natural? 10,000 spammy blog comments in one go or would 100 links from wiki pages in one day also look un-natural.

    I do a fair amount of link building - usually a couple of blog comments a day, a hub or squidoo lens a week......
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