Joomla vs Wordpress SEO

by GGurls
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I keep hearing that wordpress has better seo than Joomla... If this is true is it possible with joomla plugins and components to equal or surpass Wordpress seo?
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  • Profile picture of the author alinpion
    Wordpress has a lot more plugins then joomla and I don't see how joomla could outrank a wordpress site with same anount, or little less, of backlink For better rankings I'll recomand you to use Wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinky Painter
    All In One SEO Pack is the plugin that often used by Wordpress users. Joomla is not that SEO friendly but your can design an outstanding website with simple coding. Depends what kind of site you are looking at, SEO friendly or a beautiful website. Both have their own strengths
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    • Profile picture of the author Jager
      Originally Posted by Pinky Painter View Post

      All In One SEO Pack is the plugin that often used by Wordpress users. Joomla is not that SEO friendly but your can design an outstanding website with simple coding. Depends what kind of site you are looking at, SEO friendly or a beautiful website. Both have their own strengths
      Why is Joomla better at making beautiful websites? What's it like, in terms of interface and features and what not
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    Are there any good Joomla SEO plugins?
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    • Profile picture of the author ElegantDesigns
      Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

      Are there any good Joomla SEO plugins?
      I am kinda curious too, I heard about wp all in one SEO pack and basically anyone who is serious in internet marketing will be getting it. Is there such a plugin for Joomla, if there is please share
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    • Profile picture of the author noostyle
      Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

      Are there any good Joomla SEO plugins?
      You don't need any Joomla plugins, you simply need better content than your competition. Organic backlinking should follow (although we all know we can manipulate this regardless of CMS platform).

      The WP versus Joomla SEO debate is a nonsense in itsself. You may find decent WP plugin's that measure keyword density etc but that brings it back to the 'content is king' debate.

      Look at it this way...A WP site with good content and no SEO plugins will outperform a Joomla site with great SEO plugins and poor content. And vice versa.

      Google likes content.
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      • Profile picture of the author DigitalDanny
        You have sh440sef and acesef and some other add ons for joomla that can handle your urls. They both costs money(acesef have a free version with backlink to them). If you plan to give a joomla site sef urls you should first check if all your third party add on's support sef urls, if they dont a sef ext file for that component needs to be created.

        So first off, check what you have installed and check if the components used support sh404sef or acesef.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rankx
        Originally Posted by noostyle View Post

        You don't need any Joomla plugins, you simply need better content than your competition. Organic backlinking should follow (although we all know we can manipulate this regardless of CMS platform).

        The WP versus Joomla SEO debate is a nonsense in itsself. You may find decent WP plugin's that measure keyword density etc but that brings it back to the 'content is king' debate.

        Look at it this way...A WP site with good content and no SEO plugins will outperform a Joomla site with great SEO plugins and poor content. And vice versa.

        Google likes content.
        I absolutely agree with this. Regardless of what type of CMS you use, once you do what you are suppose to, the site will do well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nicole7575
        Originally Posted by noostyle View Post

        You don't need any Joomla plugins, you simply need better content than your competition. Organic backlinking should follow (although we all know we can manipulate this regardless of CMS platform).

        The WP versus Joomla SEO debate is a nonsense in itsself. You may find decent WP plugin's that measure keyword density etc but that brings it back to the 'content is king' debate.

        Look at it this way...A WP site with good content and no SEO plugins will outperform a Joomla site with great SEO plugins and poor content. And vice versa.

        Google likes content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Money79
      [QUOTE=GGurls;4768587]Are there any good Joomla SEO plugins?[u/QUOTE]

      For joomla I have used a SEOFISH plugin with good results.

      For me, having used both, wordpress definitely give better results. I tried to install the same content on a joomla site which I then converted into wordpress. the results are much better with wordpress.

      Bye
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      • Profile picture of the author maxenmedia
        First post here but I am big fan of Joomla and have to agree with noostyle that content is king. The thing I like about Joomla over WP is that I believe it can be a bit more interactive then WP so you can build sites that users help build content.
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  • Profile picture of the author riysoft
    Well for me Wordpress is best and easy to handle.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneyraiser
    Wordpress is the leader in SEO optimization, as well WP is easy to use (user friendly). Anyway, you must consider what do you really want from CMS and then put pros and cons and decide.
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  • Profile picture of the author Juvv2096
    Joomla is harder to use than WP, thats for sure.

    WP is much more user friendly and the plugin range is huge.
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    Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

    I keep hearing that wordpress has better seo than Joomla... If this is true is it possible with joomla plugins and components to equal or surpass Wordpress seo?
    Not entirely true. WordPress out of the box, makes it a bit harder to create sites with bad on-page SEO, but in the end, it really doesn't matter that much as to what HTML authoring tool or CMS you use in terms of good SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    As a user of both I can see why people like Wordpress, however because it's easier to use doesn't mean it's necessarily better - I find Wordpress extremely frustrating at times when similar functionality can be done twice as fast in joomla.

    Both use similar functionality in that Wordpress uses widgets and plugins - joomla uses components, modules and plugins. However I personally feel as developer you have a lot more flexibility when it comes to customizing and developing your own addons in joomla.

    Whilst Wordpress has a lot of addons joomla also has 5000+ if I recall...

    Both have great templates however I do think joomla has the edge, plus you have far more control as a developer over your joomla layouts.

    For seo purposes unless you actually know the basic fundamentals of onsite seo installing a plugin on either a joomla or WP is not going to do you much anyway. I have had great success with rankng sites with joomla but don't see any reason why I wouldn't have the same success using Wordpress and similar strategies. You have to know what your doing in the first place with seo. Just because you own a car doesn't mean you know how to drive it! Lol

    For more complex projects i will always go for joomla - for quick sites I tend to use Wordpress.

    I used to be an ardent joomla user who at one time would never even consider WP but you have to look all your options and be able to deploy the best tool to get the job done. That's why I now use both.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuppaDave21
    I agree that while Jommla is a lot harder to get SEO ready that wordpress since wordpress has a lot of plugins that really makes this a lot faster, It is still possible for a Joomla site to out rank a WP site.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by alinpion View Post

      Wordpress has a lot more plugins then joomla and I don't see how joomla could outrank a wordpress site with same anount, or little less, of backlink For better rankings I'll recomand you to use Wordpress.
      I outrank wordpress sites with ease every day. I have hundreds of Joomla sites ranking in some top spots in very competitive niches, so I believe your statement is incorrect. I don't care if you have plugins that can ping your sites, or do this or that, it doesn't matter.

      Originally Posted by celiasmith View Post

      I agree with you alinpion, wordpress has more plugins that can better aid your seo campaign.
      Who cares? I actually will disagree with the plug ins comment as well. More plugins that do nearly the same thing, isn't exactly more beneficial.

      Originally Posted by Pinky Painter View Post

      All In One SEO Pack is the plugin that often used by Wordpress users. Joomla is not that SEO friendly but your can design an outstanding website with simple coding. Depends what kind of site you are looking at, SEO friendly or a beautiful website. Both have their own strengths
      How is Joomla NOT SEO friendly? Are you telling me it is to hard for you to click a button for SEF URLs, and changing htaccess.txt to .htaccess? Something that takes literally 15 seconds to do?

      Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

      Are there any good Joomla SEO plugins?
      TONS! iJoomlaSEO is a great one... but plugins aren't going to help your website not suck. There is sooooo much more to SEO than some garbage plugins.

      Originally Posted by noostyle View Post

      You don't need any Joomla plugins, you simply need better content than your competition. Organic backlinking should follow (although we all know we can manipulate this regardless of CMS platform).

      The WP versus Joomla SEO debate is a nonsense in itsself. You may find decent WP plugin's that measure keyword density etc but that brings it back to the 'content is king' debate.

      Look at it this way...A WP site with good content and no SEO plugins will outperform a Joomla site with great SEO plugins and poor content. And vice versa.

      Google likes content.
      Yeah people seem to have trouble understanding this concept.

      Originally Posted by moneyraiser View Post

      Wordpress is the leader in SEO optimization, as well WP is easy to use (user friendly). Anyway, you must consider what do you really want from CMS and then put pros and cons and decide.
      Like I said before, I have hundreds of Joomla websites outranking many wordpress sites. The CMS isn't going to do the work for you. Quit lying to yourselves thinking that wordpress is going to be the solution to sky rocket you to #1 with minimal effort.

      Originally Posted by Jager View Post

      Why is Joomla better at making beautiful websites? What's it like, in terms of interface and features and what not
      Much more flexible out of the box. It does a lot more things and easy to overextend. You can build giant sites with better security and more flexibility. Wordpress can too with the right developer, but Joomla sites are typically higher quality.

      Originally Posted by Juvv2096 View Post

      Joomla is harder to use than WP, thats for sure.

      WP is much more user friendly and the plugin range is huge.
      Plugin range for Joomla is huge as well. It may be harder to use for you, but that is because you're making some real sites instead of just garbage you throw up there wanting to make money!

      Originally Posted by rasel786 View Post

      I think for seo wordpress is so much better than joomla.
      It is the person behind the site that makes it better. I guarantee any of my joomla websites will outrank one of your wordpress sites.

      Originally Posted by I webs design View Post

      I agree that while Jommla is a lot harder to get SEO ready that wordpress since wordpress has a lot of plugins that really makes this a lot faster, It is still possible for a Joomla site to out rank a WP site.
      This shows that you guys don't even use Joomla. If you can not click a couple buttons, you have no business even forming an opinion.

      Originally Posted by textbooks View Post

      I always prefer wordpress over joomla because it has auto ping factor and amazing plugins.
      Drupal, Joomla, Magento, Reliant.. they all have amazing plugins. There are plugins that allow you to ping your sites with joomla as well, but who really cares about that? Do you guys believe pinging is the road to the almighty first page of google? Come on now..


      Anyway, to the OP... Joomla is a great CMS. Wordpress is solid, so is drupal and many others. If you really want results for your website, the CMS used isn't the issue. I have ranked tons and tons of sites with EVERY CMS, or at least the major ones, and there is no difference. There is still work involved, and you still need to know what you are doing to get results..
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  • Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

    I keep hearing that wordpress has better seo than Joomla... If this is true is it possible with joomla plugins and components to equal or surpass Wordpress seo?
    I would definitely go with Wordpress. It's user friendly and I've found it to have better SEO plugins.
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  • Profile picture of the author diyakapoor
    SEO is more supported with wordpress. So, if you are not creating any complex website, then choose wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Red
    Wordpress just has more features and tools you can put on it to make it more seo friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author bikramksingh
    I have experience of working both on Joomla and WordPress, and I found WordPress much better than Joomla. Joomla is too complicated, but it's feature rich.
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    • Profile picture of the author guy11
      Yes wordprss had a lot more pluggins than jhoomla
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    One thing to think about is Google wanting to eliminate affiliate sites. Now, what is what 99.9 % of mini-sites, affiliate blogs and Amazon product-name-domains use, what do they all have in common? Of course--it's WordPress! Joomla and Drupal, however, are mostly used on authority- content- community- etc. sites.

    So, Google may give WP a red flag meaning, if they finally decide to get rid of affiliates. Its more safe to take the longer learning curve and have the sites to be built on Joomla or Drupal, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author komplex
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    Wordpress > Joomla in terms of SEO. Hands down, first hand experience with this as well. Search engines love to run with Wordpress and just eat them up.
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    • Profile picture of the author guy11
      Wordpress is better thanks jhoomla for beginners..
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  • Profile picture of the author GemFranco
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    Google loves WordPress. WordPress have tons of SEO plugins. Obviously, WordPress is better for SEO purposes.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by komplex View Post

      Wordpress > Joomla in terms of SEO. Hands down, first hand experience with this as well. Search engines love to run with Wordpress and just eat them up.
      Guarantee I have more joomla AND Drupal sites ranking in the top 3 in competitive niches than you do with wordpress. Search engines do NOT love wordpress, they like updated content.

      Originally Posted by GemFranco View Post

      Google loves WordPress. WordPress have tons of SEO plugins. Obviously, WordPress is better for SEO purposes.
      Once again, google does not love wordpress, it loves fresh content. Joomla also has a ton of SEO plugins. I honestly don't see why you guys think all these plugins are going to help you, most of them are meaningless.

      Originally Posted by guy11 View Post

      Wordpress is better thanks jhoomla for beginners..
      Wordpress is usually the beginner step, then joomla, and then Drupal.

      Just because you guys don't know how to use other CMS's doesn't make Wordpress the better CMS for SEO purposes. Maybe it is the easiest CMS to learn, but easy doesn't always mean better.

      Can we please stop this crap now?
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      • Profile picture of the author mojo13
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Guarantee I have more joomla AND Drupal sites ranking in the top 3 in competitive niches than you do with wordpress. Search engines do NOT love wordpress, they like updated content.



        Once again, google does not love wordpress, it loves fresh content. Joomla also has a ton of SEO plugins. I honestly don't see why you guys think all these plugins are going to help you, most of them are meaningless.



        Wordpress is usually the beginner step, then joomla, and then Drupal.

        Just because you guys don't know how to use other CMS's doesn't make Wordpress the better CMS for SEO purposes. Maybe it is the easiest CMS to learn, but easy doesn't always mean better.

        Can we please stop this crap now?
        You are fighting a losing battle here, believe me I speak from experience. Most of these wordpress cheerleaders have never used any other cms and simply are repeating what they read in the forum.

        Anyway, I agree with everything you said entirely.
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    Wordpress SEO better than Joomla
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    I think Wordpress with its vast array of plugins has the major advantage in terms of SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoMonster1
    I personally like wordpress and find it more user friendly. I recommend to use wordpress as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidAllenNeron
    I personally prefer Joomla! because it's a lot easier to customize in my opinion (if you know some coding or know how to figure it out) knowing how to use joomla to begin with helps tremendously, there are some good tutorials on Lynda.com...

    As far as SEO goes.. there are some good plugins, but I'd have to agree there are better functioning plugins for WP. With that being said.. Content is king.

    Personally while reading this thread I couldn't help but think this may be the first "blood vs crips" on the internet .. between "Joomla! vs WordPress" ... lol

    In my opinion though, .. learning Joomla! is well worth the time as I find it better to use than WordPress.. wordpress just seems too simple to me.

    One thing that wasn't mentioned here is that all the "gurus" over the years have been using WordPress (because it's older than Joomla!?) I honestly don't know which came first.. but anyway.. more plugins were made for specific uses for WordPress by people in our "industry" .. we just need more people using Joomla and creating quality extensions that do what we want...

    So get your outsource crews ready folks!

    All too often I see a great plugin... but alas I won't buy it because it's only for WordPress and the majority of my sites are Joomla! I only have a handful of WordPress sites.. and I'm not too keen on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Potts
    I think Joomla ranks well but WordPress is easier to use and there is more written about it on the web so it just makes it better for ranking. Its not the platform itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author DevilNup
    As far as my experience says both are good, only you need to think what you want and how you want. Comparing both normally, Joomla is a bit complex than wordpress and i think this is the reason why people think Joomla is not that good.
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  • Profile picture of the author ravi2011
    wordpress is best than joomla. It is easier to use,easier to understand. Even a beginner can also learn wordpress quickly
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  • Profile picture of the author queen bee
    I personally prefer Wordpress coz its quite simple to use.
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    Found wordpress better than joomla.
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    • Profile picture of the author latzo
      I used Joomla for years until a couple of months ago learned wordpress. I think back... the time I could have saved creating client sites on wordpress I kick myself, the deployment is fast.

      With that being said, Joomla on the other hand is great for sites like memberships, larger portal type sites, that need granular modifications.

      They are both good in their own ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author anku9696
    surely wordpress is better then joomla in case of SEO..and as per my own experience i have seen pages from wordpress are indexed very fast as compare to joomla.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by anku9696 View Post

      surely wordpress is better then joomla in case of SEO..and as per my own experience i have seen pages from wordpress are indexed very fast as compare to joomla.
      Surely you are wrong. Which domain gets indexed first has nothing to do with which CMS you use. This is completely idiotic to say one CMS is better based on how long it takes for googlebot to get to the site...

      Originally Posted by jastin1234 View Post

      I have experience of working both on Joomla and WordPress, and I found WordPress much better than Joomla. Joomla is too complicated, but it's feature rich.
      If you think Joomla is too complicated, then I don't think you figured out Joomla enough to be able to compare the two.

      Originally Posted by ravi2011 View Post

      wordpress is best than joomla. It is easier to use,easier to understand. Even a beginner can also learn wordpress quickly
      So if we're judging which CMS is better, by which one can someone with no experience use immediately with no learning curve, Wordpress would be the better choice. Just because something is easy to understand, doesn't make it better.

      Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post

      You are fighting a losing battle here, believe me I speak from experience. Most of these wordpress cheerleaders have never used any other cms and simply are repeating what they read in the forum.

      Anyway, I agree with everything you said entirely.
      I know...

      Originally Posted by olalinks View Post

      Joomla is required for advance webmaster and joomla is a hard code
      Wordpress is simple to manage
      So wordpress plugins are the best for seo
      No.. The plugins have nothing to do with it... both can be good for SEO. Which one is better, has nothing to do with plugins. You guys are very narrow minded and must not have any idea what SEO really is and how to perform it.
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    wordpress better than joomla
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    Originally Posted by GGurls View Post

    I keep hearing that wordpress has better seo than Joomla... If this is true is it possible with joomla plugins and components to equal or surpass Wordpress seo?
    Word press having lots of plugin then joomla, especially seo. That does not mean joomla websites are not in rank up.
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  • Profile picture of the author tom45432
    I will prefer word press more than joomla. It is very easy to use for seo and it has a most effective seo plug-in name all in one seo pack.
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    • Profile picture of the author rgblogs
      Wordpress is more of a blogging platform which is very easy to use as a spam.

      I have used both Joomla and Wordpress, found better control over Joomla.

      Whyn I dont like wordpress at all:
      1. Every child can play with it. No Big deal!
      2. All wordpress sites look similar to me.
      3. Loads of Spam comments
      4. No/Less control over layout and configuration
      5. No functionality for user login

      6. In truth for the same content, Joomla is better for SEO than wordpress! This is true in long term; Once Joomla website is ranked on top, it is difficult to outrank it. The reason is Joomla can have articles in one category only and in wordpress any article can fall in multiple categories and tage...so very easy to make a junk website with wordpress...
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  • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
    Joomla websites ranks as good as wordpress when SEO and everything else is setup correctly. I have previously ranked one of my Joomla sites on top of google for a 2 word keyword with medium competition.

    Joomla itself and its extensions are in many cases more complicated to use, it takes some time to get used to. But ranks as good as any wordpress site when configured correctly.

    For SEO I used a component called "sh404SEF". It's a paid extension and is pretty good.
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  • Profile picture of the author tizak
    This Wordpress vs Joomla SEO discussion comes at a good time for me, as I am about to build out what I hope will become an authority site, with that in mind, I was, am leaning towards Joomla, but SEO is definitely very important. With that said, could someone comment on this snippet and link, does this make sense, or is this SEO debate an urban myth?

    "Drawbacks of a Joomla CMS
    One of the biggest drawbacks of a Joomla CMS is that it lacks SEO friendly URLs and code. While SEO plug-ins can be added to make a Joomla CMS more optimized for search engines, not everyone will know to do this, nor will the plug-in compare to a CMS that is internally designed to be SEO friendly. This is not a small detail. Regardless of how fantastic a business website is, or how many bells and whistles it has - if Google can't find it, then consumers can't find it. Another potential drawback is that even if an SEO-plug-in is added to a Joomla CMS, it may require a lot of manual changes in addition to what the plug-in modifies. Additionally, most SEO plug-ins only deal with one or two aspects of on-site SEO, such as page titles, meta descriptions or meta-data, and URLs. This means several plug-ins would have to be installed in order to really optimize a website for the search engines."

    Joomla or Wordpress; Which CMS is Right for SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author karina7564
    According to my experience, WordPress is the best CMS application to design web site. It is very easy and very friendly for SEO. It is very effective plug-ins to make work easily. I prefer it than Joomla.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author iramency
    I must be living under a rock as I am still on Blogger. I wonder why everyone I know is using Wordpress but never have I heard of Joomla. I guess I'm off to check it out. I learn a lot here.
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  • Profile picture of the author katona44
    I believe that Joomla can be made more SEO Friendly than Wordpress, using the right Compontent and the right Settings.
    Also Joomla gives better user experience for the vistors of your site, and the templates are nicer too.
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    Wordpress is tottally the best you know
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    it would really depend which angle you are going with, high cost development to create all the right plugins you need for joomla leaves no reason why you can out rank a wordpress site without any problems at the end of the day its the site content and on-page seo +backlinking which will still be the same.
    Wordpress just has the fastest and most free resources from all CMS which is why we also preferr using it even for large scale business sites
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    I found Joomla too difficult to use. Wordpress is so easy and I love all the plugins.
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  • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
    Notepad can create sites that rank higher than wordpress or Joomla. :p

    The real question is, which tool gets you a SEO optimized site quicker, cheaper, and easier? Wordpress, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author loise890
    I would still prefer Worpdress SEO plugins as they've been tried and tested by most web designers. I know a lot of commercial web design services companies who are utilizing Wordpress SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    They're both content management systems, meaning they're tools in the hands of developers. A skilled developer can use either tool to their fullest advantage.

    At the end of the day, a specific CMS won't be that big of a factor for SEO results. People tend to support the system they first learned (which in most cases is WordPress).
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    All I use is Joomla and to be honest, beyond building a quick web 2.0 never used wp for anything serious. I love it because I am a software developer by profession and it is designed for me to apply changes to at the back end. If it doesn't have a position I want for something, I merely add it in a few minutes.

    If you think ranking one CMS is easier then the other, then thats like saying Google will think a WP is MFA before a Joomla site. There is no foundation for such a statement, it never can be proven due to the fact you can't create an true comparison.

    The best SEO plugins do cost money... don't people sell WSO's here for rehashed info thats been done a million times over and is even free on the web if you really look and research yourself?

    I love it, does mean it is the best CMS.. just means it is what I like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tippy
    as far as i know its true ..
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  • Profile picture of the author zubizubi
    We can design a great looking website with Joomla but from the SEO point of view joomla lacks far behind than wordpress. I was a fan of joomla once, but now I prefer wordpress. The main reason is that Wordpress can drive mass traffic to my website than joomla.
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  • Profile picture of the author coolomi
    I love Word Press its very easy to alter its CMS and tons of themes available at cheep price. More over many plugins are available to optimize website easily.

    so my goes with Word Press as usual
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  • Profile picture of the author superjohn5566
    Well for me Wordpress is best and easy to handle.
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