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google backlinking

by Mr.money411
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Hi,

Just been having a on going debate about google and if having backlinks still help.

this is what one webmaster been trying to tell me over and over again:

Google made a public announcement in 2009 and twice in 2010 that backlinks (PR) do not hold any weight anymore in their SE! That means ALL backlinks, whether they are relevant or not.

Now that is fact and not an opinion !!!!!

I mean to me I can see spammy and link exchanges being trash in my own opinion but this should not be the case for authority sites but I would like to know my follow warriors opinion on this topic as always feedback is appreciated
#backlinking #google
  • Profile picture of the author thadbong
    Backlinks definitely play a part. It's not the be all and end all of how they rank you on search, but it's a factor.

    How does your webmaster friend reckon that Google ranks websites then?

    More importantly, what is he trying to sell you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr.money411
      Originally Posted by thadbong View Post

      Backlinks definitely play a part. It's not the be all and end all of how they rank you on search, but it's a factor.

      How does your webmaster friend reckon that Google ranks websites then?

      More importantly, what is he trying to sell you?
      I think my friend just likes to be more a pain in my you know where then anything lol

      But after hearing it over and over I just want to shut him up lol
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      • Profile picture of the author thadbong
        Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

        I think my friend just likes to be more a pain in my you know where then anything lol

        But after hearing it over and over I just want to shut him up lol
        Show him your big fat commission check. That'll do the trick.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr.money411
          Originally Posted by thadbong View Post

          Show him your big fat commission check. That'll do the trick.
          yea that does always work lol
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  • Profile picture of the author volaer
    I think Google is just controlling the spammy side.. but not all. As long as it will look like natural, it will continue to have a good effect. Link is a link. It is not just for ranking, but also for traffic referral. So the rule thumb? Make the link to have natural growth, and make better contents even if you are submitting to article directory sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janet Walker
    PR is page rank in this case and he is right, G says it does not matter anymore.
    Backlinks and great unique content are the most important things for ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author MattVit
      Originally Posted by Janet Walker View Post

      PR is page rank in this case and he is right, G says it does not matter anymore.
      Backlinks and great unique content are the most important things for ranking.
      Isn't this contradictory? You said for PR ranking, "in this case .. he is right", ie backlinks aren't useful. Then you said "Backlinks .. are the most important things for ranking".

      I'm confused! :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Janet Walker
        Originally Posted by MattVit View Post

        Isn't this contradictory? You said for PR ranking, "in this case .. he is right", ie backlinks aren't useful. Then you said "Backlinks .. are the most important things for ranking".

        I'm confused! :p
        Page rank and backlinks are 2 complete different things. The reason people want links from high pr sites is because high pr is typically given to authority sites meaning that that link counts much more than a link coming from a non-authority site.
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        • Profile picture of the author MattVit
          Oh I see - that'll teach me for skim reading. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author jmartinez
    In my view quality backlinks are one of the most important aspects of SEO. But, PR doens't necessarily hold weight. It's good to have high PR, but lower PR pages outrank higher PR pages for competitive keywords all the time. Google is more concerned with relevance and quality of a page than PR. With that said, having a high PR is still a signal that a page has good backlink structure which is a good thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Then you said "Backlinks .. are the most important things for ranking".
      Page Rank (PR) and ranking are not quite the same thing. PR used to be more useful than it is now. It still has some importance when it comes to high PR. People will tell you "PR doesn't matter" but those same people would not turn down a link from a PR7 site PR is the rank of a PAGE on a site - ranking (as often discussed) is where the site places in the google order.

      But after hearing it over and over I just want to shut him up lol
      Change the subject. It's a waste of time to try to convince him - learn the facts for yourself and let him figure it out on his own.

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  • Profile picture of the author marknel
    Perhaps this webmaster is using this statement as a link bait for his company.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Google made a public announcement in 2009 and twice in 2010 that backlinks (PR) do not hold any weight anymore in their SE! That means ALL backlinks, whether they are relevant or not.
    lol. No such announcement was ever made. Total urban plain stupid legend
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    No-one knows for sure how Google works.

    However in my experience I have found that if you make an authority site by getting the content syndicated and the "go to" places for the niches this is very effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      If your friend is referring to the 0-9 PageRank number seen in the Google toolbar, he's almost right. That factor doesn't have nearly the weight it did a few years ago.

      A backlink (a link from another site TO your site) still has some value. How much is at partly a function of the authority of the page holding the backlink.

      Keep in mind that the whole idea is to get human eyeballs on your pages. Preferably, human eyeballs with both control of the means to buy and the predilection to do so.
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  • Profile picture of the author nick1980
    Rubbiiiiisssh! Quality backlinks are VERY important, and will be for a long time yet.
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