BMR doubts

MikeFriedman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by byalik

Do you mind sharing who you are using as a writer

Local college student does some of my writing, I do some (Windows speech recognition is awesome if you don't use it enough to justify the cost of Dragon), and I have a couple of people I outsource too. The outsourced projects though, I read over carefully before I submit them. There are almost always a couple of corrections that need to be made.

If you are having cheap posts written, you need to read over them before you just submit them. The cheap posts are nice, but you get what you pay for.
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MaverickUK

15 years ago

This is ridiculous. Unless you're writing (or they) like a chimpanzee then the posts are not going to be rejected - out of the 343 i've submitted only around 10 have been rejected and rightly so, they were due to spelling errors or parts of the post that don't make sense.

So to answer your question, no, they're not screwing users, you're just using people who write like crap.

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Gail_Curran 15 years ago

I've written close to a thousand posts and never had a rejection. Use decent writers and you won't have a problem.
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  They are rejecting a lot of post because they hired a new quality control department from what i hear. Personaly, I have never had 1 rejected before.
  
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JackPowers

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

This is ridiculous. Unless you're writing (or they) like a chimpanzee then the posts are not going to be rejected - out of the 343 i've submitted only around 10 have been rejected and rightly so, they were due to spelling errors or parts of the post that don't make sense.

So to answer your question, no, they're not screwing users, you're just using people who write like crap.

I did have two post rejected and I assure you they were just fine. I think it has more to do with some topics which are not popular with the network. If you buy their writing services they can't really reject them.

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mommyeinz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JackPowers

I did have two post rejected and I assure you they were just fine. I think it has more to do with some topics which are not popular with the network. If you buy their writing services they can't really reject them.

Hi! can anyone help me? im a newbie in BMR writing, was hired to do 160 post. I'm quite sure that my work make sense and a good quality post. But got in trouble having any of my posts accepted. I even used grammar and spelling checker and came up with a relevant post, but still got rejections.

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yukon

Banned 15 years ago

BMR is very smart for rejecting lower quality articles.

They are thinking ahead & covering their own a** long term.

Who wants hundreds of blogs full of typos & gibberish, well besides JCPenney?

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MaverickUK

15 years ago

Originally Posted by wegenbelasting

They should build in a max number of users cause posts will disappear from the 1st page to fast, sometimes maybe even before Google was able to index them there. A few days ago I made a post suggesting to share a BMR account, yes it's against TOS but so what, about 5 people mailed me and told me they were gonna cancel there subscription cause they didn't notice any change in rankings for the last months.

In which case, they're probably the same people who make 5 posts a week and claim that their sites aren't moving in the SERP's. You don't even really need consistent and numerous links in order to garner anything from BMR, you just need to be prepared to write 20 or so articles a week.

I've ranked numerous sites with just BMR in the past and will continue to do it in the future. Yes, some sites I've started to diversify in terms of backlinks pointing to the money sites, however i can guarantee you that BMR can rank you for somewhat competitive terms.

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MaverickUK

15 years ago

Originally Posted by wegenbelasting

I find it very odd that I hear 2 totally different story's from 2 sides, it almost sounds like the ones speaking positive about it have a share in the company. This isn't the most trustworthy forum afterall. Not so strange cause 99% of the members are trying to sell something to each other.

Yep, everyone is trying to sell something to someone else. However i can assure you i have nothing to do with BMR other than an invested interest in their excellent services. I couldn't give a flying f*** if people don't use their services, but it's worth them knowing the truth if it helps them making a decision.

I find it strange that you find it odd that there are 2 sides to the story, this is pretty much the case with anything in life - isn't it? And because someone praises a product, it means they're involved with said company?

The image you posted above is almost as idiotic as your thought process.

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satrap

15 years ago

Originally Posted by byalik

Does anyone think it is possible the reason mots posts are getting rejected by BMR these days are so customers are forced to hire their writers at 2.50 per article?

No, absolutely not!

I joined them a few weeks ago and I have had each and every post of mine accepted but one, which was rejected for duplicate. And when I checked it, it sure was duplicate. I had used a few a sentences from one of my old posts that I had totally forgot had been used.

I never used any of their writing services.

I actually am very happy that they do have strict rules and don't accept spun and duplicate content. It keeps the network cleaner and of a high quality.

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Mike Anthony 15 years ago

You would not think that if you knew the inner workings of building a SEO network. There are at the BMR level literally tens of thousands of dollars invested that can be wiped out huge chunks at a time by a single manual review by Google.

Its called deindexing and it happens in seconds once the Google reviewer realize there are bought links on your site. With BMR's size and the sheer number of users they lose domains regularly no doubt but putting no guidelines in for quality would only result in more lost sites faster.

As it is their fees cover their losses but a big enough swipe of their network would be very serious for them.
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boxoun

15 years ago

With the new guidelines, what do you guys suggest I pay my writer per post? I'm not the kind of guy that gives my writer peanuts but would also like value on my end.

I'm thinking $1/post. Too much? Too little? He his dependable but posts have been rejected lately and he is doing a lot to get them accepted.

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carljohn

15 years ago

I submitted over 100 articles recently only one was rejected.

boxoun, I'm free atm and I can write for $1 per post if you want. Depends on which countries you live, I think $1 is just about right since there is no research going into these articles. Of course, there is other willing to write for $0.5 per post.

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UMS

15 years ago

Originally Posted by byalik

Does anyone think it is possible the reason mots posts are getting rejected by BMR these days are so customers are forced to hire their writers at 2.50 per article?

In all cases I've seen, BMR reject posts if they have bad spelling, bad grammar and/or make no sense.

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Rukshan

15 years ago

I hire BMR writers from fiverr. They supply top quality articles and have 100% approve rate for me.

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Texjd

15 years ago

I've never had one rejected either in well over 1000. I write most of my own since I'm in niches that I know. You can get acceptable posts for $1-$1.25 from several warriors her on the forum.

But I will say the BMR has lost some of it's juice over the past 30 days. I do a combo of SB, AMR runs, and BMR posts and based on past experience I'm seeing a lot less impact with BMR posts. Not sure why but there is something going on now that wasn't before.

I'm running some tests in December to see if I can nail it down for sure. Of course every keyword or phrase can have it's issues so there's only so much you can reliably test.

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MikeFriedman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Texjd

But I will say the BMR has lost some of it's juice over the past 30 days. I do a combo of SB, AMR runs, and BMR posts and based on past experience I'm seeing a lot less impact with BMR posts. Not sure why but there is something going on now that wasn't before.

If you are doing that many different things, how can you be sure it is BMR causing you to see less impact? Maybe it is something to do with article directories or crappy SB comments.

I'm not saying you are right or wrong. I'm just wondering if there is more information leading you to believe BMR is the reason for your diminished returns.

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1byte 15 years ago

I have submitted nearly 900 BMR posts to my account to date, and have had no rejections ever - NONE! All have been approved without problem.

So my suggestion is stop submitting crap! Build My Rank makes it clear that they want high quality, non-spun, readable content. That's what I give them, and I suggest anyone using BMR do the same if they want the posts approved.
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OmarNegron

15 years ago

just make sure you quality is good and they will be accepted.

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kjmeylan

15 years ago

As someone who has over 6,000 approved posts, the time of day also makes a BIG difference in acceptance rate, especially if you use foreign writers. Think about the typical U.S. work hours (:

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Yogini 15 years ago

I haven't had any posts rejected. Check their rules as sometimes people put in words related to gambling or other topics that they will reject. They may not mention that in their reason however. I find the grammar, punctuation and spelling are what's key as well as making intelligible posts. I do know someone outside the United States who said they never had posts rejected and now they do, so perhaps there is more scrutiny for non-US writers.

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Dex88

15 years ago

BMR is very strict indeed when it comes to the articles that you submit. Sometimes it is not just the grammatical errors; complex sentences gets rejected as well. Always try to keep your posts as simple as possible.

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dp40oz

15 years ago

$2.50 for 150 words is highway robbery. It is a ridiculous amount to charge.

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Mike Anthony 15 years ago

Originally Posted by dp40oz

$2.50 for 150 words is highway robbery. It is a ridiculous amount to charge.

. I can't figure out if thats sarcasm or serious. You never know these days on WF. lol
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Marc_L

15 years ago

I've never used BMR. Correct me if I'm wrong but are most of the posts on these blogs 150 words? Wouldn't that be some sort of footprint? I'm sure some users double up and get 2 links in 300 words but what do most BMRers do?

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FreeMeal

15 years ago

I seem be getting quite a lot of PR1's these days from BMR, which is a bit disappointing. A lot more than I have done wit them in the past. Never had a problem with rejected articles though.

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bitriot 15 years ago

I have only had 1 post rejected by BMR that should not have been - I think that the post was written so idiosyncratically that the editor did not know my writing was correct.

In general, BMR is just fine if your posts make sense. I will say that my Indian writer has a much better acceptance rate than I do as he gets maybe 1 rejection per 200 posts.
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Marc_L

15 years ago

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

I seem be getting quite a lot of PR1's these days from BMR, which is a bit disappointing. A lot more than I have done wit them in the past. Never had a problem with rejected articles though.

PR1? Geez, that blows. This is why I haven't tried BMR. Write a snippet of 150 words, submit it and get a PR 1 that will roll off the front page. That is a garbage link when you consider the effort.

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boxoun

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Marc_L

PR1? Geez, that blows. This is why I haven't tried BMR. Write a snippet of 150 words, submit it and get a PR 1 that will roll off the front page. That is a garbage link when you consider the effort.

It offers stability. Maybe its because its all unique articles relevant to where its being linked to. My returns are good so I will keep using.

Also, If I do just 5 posts a day I would save 150/month but I'm too lazy lol.

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homebizoutlook

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Marc_L

PR1? Geez, that blows. This is why I haven't tried BMR. Write a snippet of 150 words, submit it and get a PR 1 that will roll off the front page. That is a garbage link when you consider the effort.

I don't think they 'roll off' the front page. My understanding is that your article is submitted as an article to whichever blog they select and your link remains as a permanent internal link from the article that you submitted to wherever the anchor text is pointing. Is that correct to others who know for sure?

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mosthost

15 years ago

Originally Posted by homebizoutlook

I don't think they 'roll off' the front page. My understanding is that your article is submitted as an article to whichever blog they select and your link remains as a permanent internal link from the article that you submitted to wherever the anchor text is pointing. Is that correct to others who know for sure?

All blogs work essentially the same. You have a home page with sitewide or domain PageRank. Then you have links to the site structure, such as categories. Then you have 10 posts.

As soon as the 11th post is entered, one of the older ones 'roll's off the home page' and is archived in a category or dated archive. At this point the page has either a PR NA or PR 0. The page is only linked from a category or archive page which is PR NA or PR 0 at this point.

The biggest boost for many of these links would seemingly be when they're first posted and are residing on page one. When they get archived, they will rapidly diminish in value.

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TerryL 15 years ago

BRM is a key strategy for me in ranking my affiliate sites. I always use their writers so I don't have to bother with writing the articles myself or submitting them. That leaves me more free time to work on other parts of my business. Sure, BMR writers are a bit more pricey than others, but when I take into consideration the time I don't have to spend submitting the articles, the guarantee of acceptance of the articles because they were written by BMR writers, and the strong boost in the SERPs my sites always get when I use BMR, even for competitive keywords, I'd say I'm getting a pretty good ROI with it.
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FreeMeal

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Marc_L

PR1? Geez, that blows. This is why I haven't tried BMR. Write a snippet of 150 words, submit it and get a PR 1 that will roll off the front page. That is a garbage link when you consider the effort.

Out of the last 20 post I've made, 5 of them are PR1 (just counted them). That's less than I thought tbh, but still a quarter is a bit disappointing.

I've even had PR0 turn up in the past.

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footfoot

15 years ago

BMR doubts- sounded like a questioning of the value of the service itself but after reading the initial post it's more of a hypothetical conclusion to an apparently non-existent problem.
BTW this thread is #1 for 'BMR doubts'.