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How long before you can expect ranking improvements

by alxvallejo
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This is the first time I'm pitching my SEO services and I'm not sure what timeframe I should tell them to expect before they notice improved rankings. Assuming I put in all the effort for backlink building, citations, SEO audits, a little social media...what would you guys say?
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  • Profile picture of the author elizabethjean733
    Before plane to rank your website or keywords you should concentrate on on-page seo because the main and effective thing is on-page seo then you should start work on off-page seo. However, try to get high quality, do-follow and relevant backlinks then you can achieve your goals rapidly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Juvv2096
      Originally Posted by elizabethjean733 View Post

      Before plane to rank your website or keywords you should concentrate on on-page seo because the main and effective thing is on-page seo then you should start work on off-page seo. However, try to get high quality, do-follow and relevant backlinks then you can achieve your goals rapidly.

      Agreed. Off page SEO is last. Sort out the site first then do the backlink building.

      No amount of backlink building will help if the site is garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author bodmov
    Normal time is 3-6 months, but there different keywords rank for different time, the time can be more than a year, or less that a week, if you know how to do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author alxvallejo
      Originally Posted by bodmov View Post

      Normal time is 3-6 months, but there different keywords rank for different time, the time can be more than a year, or less that a week, if you know how to do it.
      Knowing how to do it is easy. You'd have to really neglect your SEO research to not know how to build backlinks, on-site audit, etc. Unless there's some secret that they aren't telling me? Quality backlinks + citations + some press releases + some social media + on-site audit = SEO. God help me if I've come this far and have missed the message.

      So what separates a year from a week in terms of improved ranking turnover?
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinemarketer23
    hey mate,

    the timeframe google needs for a site to go upward or downward in the search results pages depends mainly on different circumstances.. specially the importance of sites getting ranked high.. let´s imagine you targeting a keyword that wikipedia.com holds a number one position.. most probably this wikipedia url would have thousands of backlinks pointing to it.. so in this event..getting the number one spot is somehow a matter of patience and consistence!!

    just explain this to your customer and wish a very successful career as a SEO service marketer!!

    cheers to all..
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  • Profile picture of the author clarajames
    It will depend on keyword weightage and I think it will take 3 to 4 months to appear on first page.
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    • Profile picture of the author alxvallejo
      Originally Posted by clarajames View Post

      It will depend on keyword weightage and I think it will take 3 to 4 months to appear on first page.
      I also want to introduce the question of 'why'. At this point, I'm telling my client that it depends on two things: the search engine algorithm and your competitors SEO. Yes of course, if you're going up against Wikipedia you need a million + 1 backlinks etc.

      But do you say that it takes 3-4 months just in the fact that it takes that much time to acquire X many backlinks? It certainly doesn't take that long for spiders to count the backlinks and give you a page rank score. I figure that the moment after you acquire your competitor's # of backlinks + 1, it takes a matter of days before the spider sees that + 1 and bumps you in the rankings. Of course I'm being simplistic but I'm just trying to figure out if the timing issue is mostly weighed towards acquiring links vs. Google recognizing those SEO efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by alxvallejo View Post

    This is the first time I'm pitching my SEO services and I'm not sure what timeframe I should tell them to expect before they notice improved rankings. Assuming I put in all the effort for backlink building, citations, SEO audits, a little social media...what would you guys say?
    No offense, but haven't you done this before?
    You are, after all, selling services...

    How long did it take for the plethora of sites that
    you have worked on in the past?

    Did you ever work on any sites? Didn't you keep
    track of "how long" ?

    Nobody here can answer the question.

    Before pitching one's services, one should have
    services to pitch, along with a track record.

    I myself would be mad if I was hiring someone and
    they and they had to go to the WF to ask, "How long?"

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author alxvallejo
      I understand that concern. This is my second client. My first client already had good rankings and I focused mainly on best practices and SEM. This client referred me to a new client and now I'm pitching them based on limited experience. But hey, a client is a client and I need to start somewhere.
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      • Profile picture of the author aygabtu
        The original question was concerning improved rankings, not the #1 position. I'd say after whatever effort you put in, the client should start noticing improvements in a week or two with a peak in 30-60 days.

        Obviously there will be other factors like competitor efforts, your own clients efforts and organic back linking that will continue to alter the results, but for the most part, I think google will process everything you do and render the end result between 30 to 60 days.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by aygabtu View Post

          I think google will process everything you do and render the end result between 30 to 60 days.
          That makes no sense. Like, we now have a time table to
          wait on google?

          Newsflash: Google changes the algo at least twice a day.

          60 days? Then no improvement, so you what, give up?

          I have to wait 30 days?!?!?! Man what about my competition
          in those 30 days? Are they waiting?

          The question cannot be answered. Period.

          But at least we now have THE answer. Your SEO efforts
          do not go into effect until 30-60 days. Take notes!

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author carlenesky
            Before Google updates every 3 months or 6 months but now because of the new algorithm, they updates randomly anytime and we can say that you can see the result in a month or two.
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    • Profile picture of the author TBInternetMarketing
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      No offense, but haven't you done this before?
      You are, after all, selling services...
      I must admit, this is exactly what I was thinking myself?

      Only experience will tell you this kind of thing, but even then, no one can tell for sure. Unless you work for Google, and had an integral part in writing their algorithm, it's hard to be sure. 3-6 months in my experience is usually a decent time frame to start seeing some ranking results.

      occasionally my sites rank sooner, occasionally they never rank at all, but work on 3-6 months
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    i would 30 to 60 days if you know what you are doing
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