All my amazon sites deindexed. Help???

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So all of my amazon sites got deindexed about 11 of them. Not sure why here is the URL of one of them.

Pilates Reformer Machine Reviews

Some of the sites were on different hosting and the only thing linking them was google analytics. So those of you who were "paranoid" and not wanting to use google analytics may have been on to something.

So here are my questions? Why were they deindexed and what can I do to get them reindexed?

Thanks,

Nathan
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Some more info. Most if not all of my sites were PR 3 & 4. They all have unique content, privacy policies, etc.

    I'm so bummed right now I've been working on these sites for the last 6 months and they had finally broken the $1,000 a month in income barrier last month.
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    • Profile picture of the author Deezle
      A couple of questions before I give an answer. Did all of them get deindexed at the same time? On the same day or within a few days of each other?

      Were you using a link network for building backlinks? Were you using content from Amazon on your posts which could make the article less unique?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Seems like this review site may have original review content, but cannot be seen as an authority site in your niche. Google has dropped the hammer on many review sites and they've finally caught up with yours.

    The only way to get traffic to them may be to use PPC or set up blogs, squidoo lenses and articles that link directly to your sites. This will take a lot of work, so maybe you should choose your top performing sites to focus on now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Seems like this review site may have original review content, but cannot be seen as an authority site in your niche. Google has dropped the hammer on many review sites and they've finally caught up with yours.

    The only way to get traffic to them may be to use PPC or set up blogs, squidoo lenses and articles that link directly to your sites. This will take a lot of work, so maybe you should choose your top performing sites to focus on now.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I'm looking at the site on an iPhone and it seems fine from what I can tell. I'm not sure so I'll ask - is Pilates a trademarked term? If so, maybe the cause? The content itself doesn't look scraped so u seem ok in that regard (unless it's PLR?)
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  • Profile picture of the author caseycase
    Wow Nate, that sucks man. I am curious as well about your SEO methods. What were you doing?
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  • Profile picture of the author kokopelli
    I've seen the same thing on some of my "dedicated" Amazon sites - IMHO those do not work anymore. Better to integrate Amazon into a site, not build the site solely on/around Amazon. Google sees the latter as "thin affiliates" and de-indexes them.

    Are you sure your content is unique? Copyscape thinks otherwise.

    Lastly, I think your domain name may have contributed too ...

    Just my 2 cents - good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by kokopelli View Post

      Amazon sites - IMHO those do not work anymore. Better to integrate Amazon into a site, not build the site solely on/around Amazon. Google sees the latter as "thin affiliates" and de-indexes them.
      I own several Amazon-only sites and have consistently made bank on them over the last year or so. They are only seen as thin sites when they are, in fact, thin.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    None of my content was scraped and I don't believe that Pilates is trademarked...and for sure my other sites don't have any thing in the domain name that is trademarked.

    All of them got deindexed some time overnight the day before yesterday. I noticed it this morning when I did my daily check and only had a few click over to amazon. I then checked my analytics account as I do every morning and no clicks there either.

    I then did a site: and nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    As far as unique content. All reviews were written either by me or someone that I paid to write them. The only thing that is not unique is one of the posts that can be seen to the side. That is an Ultra Spinnable Article I spun changed up a bit and posted. I did to add some content while I was writing more reviews. I also used one of these on one other of my sites, but that is it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Shipp
    Sorry to hear that. Its hard to say why without knowing more about your backlinking methods and frequency. One thing we do know is GA allowed them to easily hit the switch on all your sites. You probably caught their attention with 1 site and they punished you hard.

    To all those who will listen GA is sleeping with the enemy. The return for data given to letting G see all your sites is NOT worth it. There are other analytic platforms out there that will supply you with the info you need to make sound decisions on your sites and allow you to sleep better at night.

    As far as what to do now, I would do the following:
    1. Forget about those sites.
    2. Build new sites
    3. Analytics with Get Clicky
    4. Split your sites on several hosting accounts

    Good Luck
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    • Profile picture of the author WallyworldWf
      Originally Posted by tshipp View Post

      Sorry to hear that. Its hard to say why without knowing more about your backlinking methods and frequency. One thing we do know is GA allowed them to easily hit the switch on all your sites. You probably caught their attention with 1 site and they punished you hard.
      Well if you think GA is the problem, I assume that we can't have Google Webmaster Tools installed either? But like Yukon says, they know where the ads are being placed anyway via the PUB ID as far as adsense is concerned.

      EDIT: I see others have thought GWT could be a culprit as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    My SEO methods have been SENUKE, BMR, and ALN.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Any WSO's or other information on how to save my sites?

    Or is it just a lost cause and start over?
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @wolfmmiii any other ideas to why this got deindexed?

    Are there things that are blatantly missing that your sites have or did I just hit some bad luck?
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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    The pilates site does look abit thin. Just reviews and two articles. Not exactly giving value to the end user. Perhaps if you cranked out some more articles (not reviews) the sites wouldn't have been de-indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Having Google analytics DEFINITELY was the key to having all of your sites de-indexed.

    If you want to salvage the sites at all, remove anything google related from your site and continue linking.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
      Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

      Having Google analytics DEFINITELY was the key to having all of your sites de-indexed.

      If you want to salvage the sites at all, remove anything google related from your site and continue linking.
      Certainly we're not all so naive so as to think that Google doesn't know anyway...GS-Installed or not...
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @clayden I wouldn't say that I'm giving no value as the average time the user spends on the pilates web site was around 2 mins, either way any suggestions

    @cool hand luke- have you heard of sites bouncing back like this? If so I could move them to new hosting, take off google analytics, and keep backlinkg and writing articles. I just want to know that it's a worthwhile investment of my time (meaning is there a good chance that I can get these back)
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by natewc View Post

    So all of my amazon sites got deindexed about 11 of them. Not sure why here is the URL of one of them.

    Pilates Reformer Machine Reviews

    Some of the sites were on different hosting and the only thing linking them was google analytics. So those of you who were "paranoid" and not wanting to use google analytics may have been on to something.

    So here are my questions? Why were they deindexed and what can I do to get them reindexed?

    Thanks,

    Nathan
    Most of those paranoids also run Adsense, & think Google won't track their pub-ID, Lol.

    You can find those guys chasing UFOs on the weekends.
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  • Profile picture of the author crete
    Were they all hosted on the same server?

    Oddly enough I had the same thing happen with the acception of one site made with associate-o-matic that has zero origional content...... strange.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    3 out of the 11 sites were on unique servers and 8 were on the same server (hostgator).
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @yukon- accept that I was running any adsense...so I think you do need to be paranoid about google analytics now
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    • Profile picture of the author phans
      i am really sorry to here that

      i would try to start all over again! i know it sucks but you will likly be able to build sites a lot faster than you were 6 month ago!
      i would use another tracking tool than GA it can't harm you if you do...

      i am not sure about your linkbuilding but isn't linkbuilding with senuke to the moneysite dangerous? any linkbuilding that is done by tools and blog networks is risky

      maybe you should also try to post a bit more content that isn't related to amazon so that it looks less like an amazon site

      if you do all the above i am sure you will be able to earn a lot more than $1000 / month in 6 month
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    So, why if I search for this snippet of content from your site do I find 920 exact matches:

    "the following paragraphs contain fundamental principles and strategies to working out and achieving your physical goals"

    Houston, I think we have a problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author LiamP
      A human reviewer looked at your site site and said "nup"
      - Your content is thin
      - Your content reads badly
      - Your pics are squashed
      - Your contact page lacks any contact details. It's just a form. It needs a email, phone number and physical address
      - Your About page is a single sentence that reveals nothing.

      The whole site says "slapped together quickly just to make money by somebody is hiding", rather than "owned by somebody who cares and wants to look after their visitors"
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      • Profile picture of the author uthrive
        I'm almost sure that the Google analytics played a big part
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @Barry- Hi, as I said above all the reviews are unique and either written by me or a paid writer. The two articles on the side, I thought there was only one, (I put at most 4-5 throughout the 11 sites) are from vita-vees uniquely spun articles. A few things were changed like the title to tie them into the site however they are not unique. Most of my sites however have 100% unique content. I used these articles to submit to article websites and other web 2.0 properties.
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    • Profile picture of the author coachbob
      Originally Posted by natewc View Post

      @Barry- Hi, as I said above all the reviews are unique and either written by me or a paid writer. The two articles on the side, I thought there was only one, (I put at most 4-5 throughout the 11 sites) are from vita-vees uniquely spun articles. A few things were changed like the title to tie them into the site however they are not unique. Most of my sites however have 100% unique content. I used these articles to submit to article websites and other web 2.0 properties.
      If could PM you I would, so with that said, PM so I can ask you a question before I reply.

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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Ok, so the jist of it everything so far seems to be. That I needed to add some more unique content so it could pass a manual review.

    So the big question that still hasn't been answered is....Can I save these sites? If yes how do I do it?
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    • Profile picture of the author troybh
      Nobody can save those sites. They would have to be rewritten and redone to not look like MFA sites, then submit a reinclusion request which may or may not work. Better just move on and learn from your mistakes and try, try again. Biggest mistake I see is you have big buttons that say visit website that are only going to amazon with your affiliate link. Plus the womans face picture is so smooshed that she looks like a wrinkled up old hag.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    you missed or ignored the part about

    Your contact page lacks any contact details. It's just a form. It needs a email, phone number and physical address
    - Your About page is a single sentence that reveals nothing
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      you missed or ignored the part about

      Your contact page lacks any contact details. It's just a form. It needs a email, phone number and physical address
      - Your About page is a single sentence that reveals nothing
      Sorry, but this is wrong. Do you have any idea how many sites do not show a physical address and phone number? Google doesn't even have phone support. And nowhere in Google's quality guidelines does it say you have to have this info.

      OP - There is alot of flat-out misinformation in this thread. IMO you were deindexed because of 3 reasons:

      1. Not alot of content (less than 10 pages)
      2. Content there is thin
      3. Each article has like 6 or 7 affiliate links, none of them cloaked.

      And no, I don't think it has anything to do with your link building. One of your sites got flagged somehow, and most likely a manual review shot down your site and Google analytics connected to the rest. Stop using Google Analytics!

      What you should try first is rewrite your content, make it more thorough, longer, and better. Get rid of all of those affiliate links...ALL of them. Link out to authority sites. Add video and more pics, and bring more value to the content.

      Then add at least 10 or 20 more articles, all original.

      Then sign up for Google Webmaster Tools and request for re-inclusion.

      You should get a response within 2-4 weeks. If you are included again, you can then add affiliate links back in, but for god's sake don't add like 6 of them on each page with no other outbound links.

      Good luck, totally sucks when this happens.
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        Bill thanks. That was the advice I was looking for.
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      • Profile picture of the author phans
        Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

        3. Each article has like 6 or 7 affiliate links, none of them cloaked.

        Get rid of all of those affiliate links...ALL of them. Link out to authority sites.
        just a noob question
        can't google identify cloaked links?
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      • Profile picture of the author agmantz
        Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

        OP - There is alot of flat-out misinformation in this thread. IMO you were deindexed because of 3 reasons:

        1. Not alot of content (less than 10 pages)
        2. Content there is thin
        3. Each article has like 6 or 7 affiliate links, none of them cloaked.

        And no, I don't think it has anything to do with your link building. One of your sites got flagged somehow, and most likely a manual review shot down your site and Google analytics connected to the rest. Stop using Google Analytics!

        Thanks for the advice and I can also apply this strategy.

        How about adsense? Even I have multiple hosting to my sites but same adsense ID, If I create multiple account using different person (members of my family) but logging in with same IP address to check it status, I still leaving lots of footprint for google to track me down. Any suggestion what to do or I don't need to be worried about this. :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author LiamP
        Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

        Sorry, but this is wrong. Do you have any idea how many sites do not show a physical address and phone number? Google doesn't even have phone support. And nowhere in Google's quality guidelines does it say you have to have this info.
        Sorry Bill your information on Google's guidelines may not be complete.

        Recently a private Google doc was released which was the handbook for Google manual reviewers team. Under the section "Helpful Pages versus Spam Webpages", it says "If the contact information includes physical addresses, phone numbers, ....., the page is helpful and not spam", and "Look to see if the page appears to have been created to help users: Look for features, such as ... contact information, phone numbers, physical addresses"

        I have since read a post on another private forum by a manual reviewer stating how real offline contact info was a major determinant for them in judging whether a website was a spam site for not.
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        • Profile picture of the author Loloy Diango
          A lot of people here have pointed out that GA is the main culprit for OP's woes.

          Do we really have proof of this?

          I've read - and heard - of this type of speculation here on WF but there seems to be an absence of information providing incontrovertible proof that Google Analytics really is harmful to your online business's health.

          Ironically, people who espouse this line of thinking make themselves sound so certain about what they believe and seem to have insider access to what Google does day in and day out, yet are not able to provide solid detailed proof of their claim.

          Can we just stop spitting out speculations and misinformation which only contribute to promoting confusion and paranoia?
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
          Originally Posted by LiamP View Post

          Sorry Bill your information on Google's guidelines may not be complete.

          Recently a private Google doc was released which was the handbook for Google manual reviewers team. Under the section "Helpful Pages versus Spam Webpages", it says "If the contact information includes physical addresses, phone numbers, ....., the page is helpful and not spam", and "Look to see if the page appears to have been created to help users: Look for features, such as ... contact information, phone numbers, physical addresses"

          I have since read a post on another private forum by a manual reviewer stating how real offline contact info was a major determinant for them in judging whether a website was a spam site for not.
          Yes I'm familiar with that document. Those reviewers referred to in that document are there to test algorithm changes. I was referring to Google's webmaster quality guidelines. That document you are referring to is quite different. Jennifer wrote a good post talking about that here: Google Raters - All About Google Quality Raters | PotPieGirl.com

          IMO the manual review that might have zapped the OP's site has nothing to do with the manual reviews referred to in the document. Someone making 10 bucks an hour wouldn't have the power to deindex a site.

          This is all mostly guess-work, based upon what we see. For all I know, the algorithm could have zapped it!

          Moral of the story, as I stated, is to make bigger and higher quality sites, with less 'affiliate' stuff in there. And don't use hidden links! Don't be scared if the someone clicks on a non-affiliate link! This advice that you read to make sure you only give visitors ONE option when they get to your page is out-dated.
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        Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

        Sorry, but this is wrong. Do you have any idea how many sites do not show a physical address and phone number? Google doesn't even have phone support. And nowhere in Google's quality guidelines does it say you have to have this info.

        OP - There is alot of flat-out misinformation in this thread. IMO you were deindexed because of 3 reasons:

        1. Not alot of content (less than 10 pages)
        2. Content there is thin
        3. Each article has like 6 or 7 affiliate links, none of them cloaked.

        And no, I don't think it has anything to do with your link building. One of your sites got flagged somehow, and most likely a manual review shot down your site and Google analytics connected to the rest. Stop using Google Analytics!

        What you should try first is rewrite your content, make it more thorough, longer, and better. Get rid of all of those affiliate links...ALL of them. Link out to authority sites. Add video and more pics, and bring more value to the content.

        Then add at least 10 or 20 more articles, all original.

        Then sign up for Google Webmaster Tools and request for re-inclusion.

        You should get a response within 2-4 weeks. If you are included again, you can then add affiliate links back in, but for god's sake don't add like 6 of them on each page with no other outbound links.

        Good luck, totally sucks when this happens.
        I found that Bill_Z's saying is correct. I do not think we do have to add physical address etc on our contact page.

        My opinion is, you have to forget those sites, build new ones with more proper way. Obviously, "proper way" is relative to everyone
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Ok, so for my new sites also the contact page information should be fixed.

    I'll have to look at some examples on other peoples about pages to see what kind of things should go there.
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  • Profile picture of the author linkbuildr
    Thin affiliate sites + spammy link building = google pwning
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
    Maybe instead of building 11 new blogs you should make just one. Rather than having 11 different websites with 3 unique articles each if you built just one with 33 unique articles then you would be in a much better position never to get de-indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
    Originally Posted by natewc View Post

    So all of my amazon sites got deindexed about 11 of them. Not sure why here is the URL of one of them.

    Pilates Reformer Machine Reviews

    Some of the sites were on different hosting and the only thing linking them was google analytics. So those of you who were "paranoid" and not wanting to use google analytics may have been on to something.

    So here are my questions? Why were they deindexed and what can I do to get them reindexed?

    Thanks,

    Nathan
    Hi Nathan

    Sorry to hear about your de-indexing problem,I took a quick look at your site and I noticed a few things right away,just like some people said your contact page needs more information,but that alone wouldn't get you de-indexed,I picked out a random article from your site "http://www.pilates-reformer-machines.com/reviews/stamina-aero-pilates-machine/"
    first thing I noticed is the word "Pilates" it is way over used,I counted it about 33 times in that article alone,Google doesn't like keyword stuffing,second I noticed a hidden link to wikipedia which I'm sure seems deceptive in Google eyes,third problem is way to many links to Amazon,I counted something like 9 Amazon links in that article which are also dofollow links,that won't get you de-indexed but you should always put the nofollow tag to your affiliate links,by leaving those links as dofollow your passing page rank to the Amazon product page and by doing so your working against yourself by linking dofollow links to the product your trying to out rank in the first place.

    I would also get rid of the review theme,these themes yell out I'm an affiliate site trying to make money and we all know Google has these site in it's radar these days,mix up your content also,don't have a site with only reviews and affiliate links,have also helpful articles that can solve your visitors problem with no affiliate links.

    And for the reviews keep your Amazon links to a maximum of 2 to 4 links,you can place a link in a picture and also have one at the end of the article saying you found the best price for this product on Amazon.com or something like that.
    One other thing could have been you backlinked the site to hard,what was your senuke strategy,to many links to fast will hurt your site especially for a new site.

    I hope you can get things sorted out with Google.
    Good Luck


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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    Were you using the same theme on all 11 of them?
    How were the rankings?

    I've had sites monetized by amazon sandboxed, but never deindexed.
    So I'm curious as well as to what may have triggered the deindexing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lares
      This really sucks. Your site looks kinda ok.
      My guess would be its because you have only 5 unique reviews and 2 duplicate/spun articles. Spun articles might be the biggest issue here.
      I am pretty sure you triggered manual review somehow or you wouldn't get all of them deindexed.

      You can try to submit google reconsideration request. But 1st delete spun content and add some unique content. Probably you should delete all affiliate links too or they will reject it as "thin affiliate site"

      Time to delete my google analytics accounts.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @steve- I haven't decided if I'm going to rebuild or go with a different plan yet but if I do rebuild I'll definately take your advice to heart.

    @ninal- yeah, they all had the same theme going on. As for ranking, I was getting most of my traffic from the top four sites an average of 350-500 a day. With all four ranking for their top keywords.

    As a noob I took the design and everything I did with these sites from the amazon "gurus" who's WSO's I purchased. I had heard about these things happening but didn't really feel like I was doing anything blatantly wrong, so I never thought it would happen to me.

    I know I have the drive and smarts to make this happen, I guess I'm just wondering if anyone has any advice as to a different path that I should invest my efforts in?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrsparrow
    A few months ago one of my sites got deindexed also. I assume because I got somebody from Fiverr to provide about 150 google +1 votes and Facebook likes. The day after the service was over, my site was not indexed anymore.

    I then eliminated all google+ and likes buttons from my sites and did nothing else. After two weeks the site was back on a better position in serps than ever before.

    So it's possible for sites to be re-indexed, but I think that you need to fix your faults first.
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  • Profile picture of the author sgoerger
    Yeah, I think the site itself actually looks okay - I've seen wayyy worse for sure.

    One thing that hasn't been addressed too much, at least by the OP, is those backlinking methods. SENuke and all the other stuff, it seems pretty aggressive, and my guess is that is the #1 reason for de-indexing.

    Also the keyword stuffing. If it is over-stuffed and unnatural, that's pretty easy for a manual reviewer to pick up, or a spider.

    Others have pointed out a lack of original content, and if that's the case, that may be a problem too.

    I think niche sites just need to be done 10000% by the book these days - keep everything fresh and properly linked and visitor friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author frank07
    I think you need to do some action, do not give up easy:
    Remove the spun articles, and replace by new articles, show more content at first page. Or you can change all content by new and unique one, make it naturally, do not try to use much keyword on your content. After that build link again with some basic way to index your site as social bookmark, blog comment.
    If one week pass and your site is still de-index, you may buy a new domain and transfer everything to there. Restart the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author corelle
    Is it possible that your keywords shot to the #1 position too quickly given how new your site is?

    For a site that is around 6 months old (correct me if I'm wrong), you were able to shoot past some of the major authority sites, maybe that triggered suspicion by Google.

    I checked one of your keywords (Pilates Machine) in Google, and right now About . com, Amazon and Walmart dominate the top few positions. If you were able to get to #1 in 6 months with that kind of competition, maybe that's an issue with Google?

    As for your theme, it's the same one that Jan Roos uses for some of his sites, so I don't see that would be a problem.

    One of Jan Roos websites looks very similar to yours, it's also an Amazon affiliate site, and he only has 9 indexed pages and the site is quite new too. So I'm a little baffled.

    I can understand if Google wants to sandbox you, but to deindex all your sites seems a bit drastic.

    It actually think your site looks pretty decent, it just needs a few more pages of content.

    It scares me a bit, because your site looks better than some of mine. Now I know I have to make some major changes to my sites!
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    • Profile picture of the author corelle
      BTW, here is Jan Roos' site, he showed this in one of his free training videos.

      babymonitorswithcameraz [dot] com

      Can someone review his site and see what's the difference?

      Because if we follow Roos' formula and still get into trouble with Google, then what's next? Can we not do anything right by Google anymore?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dustin Wright
        Originally Posted by corelle View Post

        "...Because if we follow Roos' formula and still get into trouble with Google, then what's next? Can we not do anything right by Google anymore?"
        All, please help me. Have I missed the boat on the Amazon Affiliate money machine? Years ago when I wrote a book, I used AdWords to promote it. AdWords seemed much simplier, cheaper, effective and easier to use, now, it seems they have "Jumped The Shark". It seems way too expensive. I'm looking at Jan Roos's "course" and am intrigued, but two things concern me.
        1. The above quote from the post above mine
        2. In the "WSO" forum he offers his "course" for $97 and according to the rules of the forum, it is supposed to be a "deal" and cheaper than the public site. It's not. Is that a red flag?
        3. From my reading it appears all (or most?) "review" sites I find are affilate marking thus a pure fabrication?
        I know it's only $97, but that's real money to me. Please share your thoughts.

        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author corelle
          Originally Posted by Dustin Wright View Post

          [*]In the "WSO" forum he offers his "course" for $97 and according to the rules of the forum, it is supposed to be a "deal" and cheaper than the public site. It's not. Is that a red flag?[*]From my reading it appears all (or most?) "review" sites I find are affilate marking thus a pure fabrication?
          Jan Roos is a respected "guru". But the gurus don't work for Google. They, too, are trying to play Google. If Google changes the rules, it could affect them too.

          My question now is, have the gurus been teaching us to be too aggressive?

          I don't mean to sound like I'm questioning the wisdoms of the gurus, many of them have been very helpful to us newbies. But sometimes I wonder if what they teach still works *today*.

          They all teach us to get to #1 position as quickly as possible. Maybe what we should be doing is NOT get to #1 too quickly, at least not get to #1 using aggressive backlinking methods. Maybe we'll have to take a year.
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        • Profile picture of the author kissofdeath
          did your sites have back links to each other?
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      • Profile picture of the author Adsman68
        This is a very valid quastion. would be nice if Jan could offer his thoughts as well ?

        Originally Posted by corelle View Post

        BTW, here is Jan Roos' site, he showed this in one of his free training videos.

        babymonitorswithcameraz [dot] com

        Can someone review his site and see what's the difference?

        Because if we follow Roos' formula and still get into trouble with Google, then what's next? Can we not do anything right by Google anymore?
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      • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
        Originally Posted by corelle View Post

        BTW, here is Jan Roos' site, he showed this in one of his free training videos.

        babymonitorswithcameraz [dot] com

        Can someone review his site and see what's the difference?

        Because if we follow Roos' formula and still get into trouble with Google, then what's next? Can we not do anything right by Google anymore?
        That site may be owned by Jan and be the one he used in his recent webinar, but the site was NOT built to his specifications in his WSOs at all, it was built EXACTLY as all of the other sites are built by this vendor here:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...fs-inside.html

        How do I know? Because I've used this exact service multiple times and know exactly how Andrew (the vendor) sets them up. The website you mention as Jan's is DEFINITELY made by Andrew and his team. There are some VERY big differences in how Jan Roos sets up sites in "The Physical Affiliate" and "Proven Income Method" and how the vendor sets up these sites.

        While I make the majority of my living off of Adsense sites, I can tell you there is merit to Amazon review sites, but it is NOT as easy as it used to be, and as Kevin says, you MUST, 100% HAVE TO, GOT TO offer real value to your readers.

        Also, separate c-class ips are key and NO Google Analytics!
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        • Profile picture of the author larkykid
          Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

          Also, separate c-class ips are key and NO Google Analytics!
          Hey Luke, that's interesting, did you find using separate c-class ips make a significant difference in your rankings?
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @SG- my link building methods for all my sites used senuke, bmr (in the past), and aln. I was pretty aggressive and I had probably about 9K links spread out over the entire site. I don't think this was a problem, but maybe the keyword stuffing was. Although here again I followed the "gurus" guidelines and had my targeted keyword for each page at around 2%.

    @corell yeah, Jan is one of the "gurus" who's material and ideas I followed

    @frank yeah, I'm going to start some kind of action plan today and try to save the sites
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @corelle- there isn't any difference in his site and mine as far as I can see because I used his formula

    things that people said I did wrong
    -contact form (his is the same)
    -to many affiliate links per review (I opened up his first review and like mine he has 9 links to amazon including the pic)
    -hidden google link (didn't look but I took that straight from his course)
    -no articles just reviews (he doesn't have any reiviews)

    My point is only to reiterate that my websites were the result of following what I read in several guru's WSO's. I think what I did was pretty standard. I guess I just had some bad luck.

    @corell & Dustin- I think this formula can still work, but now you can go in knowing some of the risks
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    @natec. Someone on the first page of the thread mentioned that there is a keyword appearing about 33 instances on one of your articles. Could keyword stuffing be the reason? What was the density for that keyword?

    What do you mean by hidden google link?
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    nah, not sure how many times the word "pilates" appears, but I use an seo pluggin and always have my keyword density at around 2% so in this case the keyword was "pilates machine" so in my 600 word review it would appear about 12 time but the word pilates may appear more. From my research that seemed to be about the sweet spot, however I'm open to suggestions.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    yeah the jury is still out on whether or not to put google analytics on your sites that have adsense. I've heard from big name bloggers that make a killing via adsense to never put analytics on the site. Maybe they're being paranoid....but hey if google can see everything that is happening with your sites and all the ones you own....then there might be a reason to be paranoid.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Oh, also the "hidden google link". So I learned from the "gurus" that you should link out to an authority site. I usually use google or wiki. So I link to something pertinent on one of those sites however instead of making the text a different color to denote a link I keep the color the same as the surrounding texts.

    It's not really hidden in that if you scroll over it the cursor changes and the link can be clicked on it's just not highlighted or underlined.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    Oh, also the "hidden google link". So I learned from the "gurus" that you should link out to an authority site. I usually use google or wiki. So I link to something pertinent on one of those sites however instead of making the text a different color to denote a link I keep the color the same as the surrounding texts.

    It's not really hidden in that if you scroll over it the cursor changes and the link can be clicked on it's just not highlighted or underlined.
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    • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
      Oh, also the "hidden google link". So I learned from the "gurus" that you should link out to an authority site. I usually use google or wiki. So I link to something pertinent on one of those sites however instead of making the text a different color to denote a link I keep the color the same as the surrounding texts.

      It's not really hidden in that if you scroll over it the cursor changes and the link can be clicked on it's just not highlighted or underlined.
      That might be it. maybe someone pointed it out and they did a manual review. Here's what the Webmaster guidelines says:

      Hidden text and links - Webmaster Tools Help

      Hidden links are links that are intended to be crawled by Googlebot, but are unreadable to humans because:

      The link consists of hidden text (for example, the text color and background color are identical).
      CSS has been used to make tiny hyperlinks, as little as one pixel high.
      The link is hidden in a small character - for example, a hyphen in the middle of a paragraph.

      If your site is perceived to contain hidden text and links that are deceptive in intent, your site may be removed from the Google index, and will not appear in search results pages. When evaluating your site to see if it includes hidden text or links, look for anything that's not easily viewable by visitors of your site. Are any text or links there solely for search engines rather than visitors?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dev!l
    Did you interlink all of the sites?
    If you haven't done anything shady then continue building links like nothing has happened and hope that your sites get back on Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    You guys pointing to Jan's site, it's the same. He just hasn't been "caught". It's a known FACT that there are manual reviews of sites. And if sites are found out there that are thin affiliate sites that exist "only to make money", then Google deems it unworthy and will zap it.

    This is not speculation. This comes straight from Google quality guidelines as well as an internal Google document that went around that instructs "at-home" workers going thru sites manually to determine their "value" according to Google's definition.

    It might not have been this site that got the OP zapped. It could have been any of the other 11.

    The days of thin, ****ty affiliate sites are over. If you do this, then you better space out your hosting, registration, etc and cover your tracks and not link them. Because if they catch one they will zap them all. If they aren't deindexed, they will get hit with an algorithmic penalty. And honestly when it comes down to it, it's basically the same. You might as well be deindexed if you are not on teh first page, because you aren't getting traffic anyway.

    Your sites must give VALUE to the visitor. They must not OBVIOUSLY be for commission only. Yes, I know it's hard to determine this. And I know 90% of sites out there want to make money, but it's Google's world and you have to follow their rules if you want to get traffic from them.

    Build quality sites. That's it.

    And if you get caught, you fix them up and do what I told the OP to do to try to get them back.

    EDIT: One more thing...you can still easily make money with Amazon, just to answer some of the 'panic' in this thread. Just beef up your sites! Don't include all review articles. Put in some articles that aren't reviewing a product. Don't use like 5+ affiliate links in your article. I would use 2 at the most. Will you get less click-thru's? YES. Will you have a better chance of passing a manual review? YES. Will your sites bring more value to the visitor, and last longer? YES.

    Google is using the term "doorway page" for penalizing sites. If your site is seen as a doorway page, you get the boot. A doorway page is considered any page that makes it obvious that it only exists to get the visitor another page to buy something. No offense to the OP, but his site and sites like Jan's example are prime examples of this. They work, and you can get them up quickly, and you can rank them, but be careful if you do this!

    IMO the better way is bigger, more authoritative and quality sites. Add outbound links that don't go to Amazon. Add videos. Have the BEST review on teh product that you can find on the interwebz. I know it's more work, but no one says IM is easy (except for MMO product creators of course) Make it a page that you would send a friend to if they want information on a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

      You guys pointing to Jan's site, it's the same. He just hasn't been "caught". It's a known FACT that there are manual reviews of sites. And if sites are found out there that are thin affiliate sites that exist "only to make money", then Google deems it unworthy and will zap it.

      This is not speculation. This comes straight from Google quality guidelines as well as an internal Google document that went around that instructs "at-home" workers going thru sites manually to determine their "value" according to Google's definition.

      It might not have been this site that got the OP zapped. It could have been any of the other 11.

      The days of thin, ****ty affiliate sites are over. If you do this, then you better space out your hosting, registration, etc and cover your tracks and not link them. Because if they catch one they will zap them all. If they aren't deindexed, they will get hit with an algorithmic penalty. And honestly when it comes down to it, it's basically the same. You might as well be deindexed if you are not on teh first page, because you aren't getting traffic anyway.

      Your sites must give VALUE to the visitor. They must not OBVIOUSLY be for commission only. Yes, I know it's hard to determine this. And I know 90% of sites out there want to make money, but it's Google's world and you have to follow their rules if you want to get traffic from them.

      Build quality sites. That's it.

      And if you get caught, you fix them up and do what I told the OP to do to try to get them back.
      So when big G do a manual review on a site, do they actually read the content to see if it gives value to the visitors? Because merely filling a page with lots of words doesn't equate to providing value.

      Are you saying that Jan's site doesn't provide value? In what way? Lack of quality content or not enough content?
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        So when big G do a manual review on a site, do they actually read the content to see if it gives value to the visitors? Because merely filling a page with lots of words doesn't equate to providing value.

        Are you saying that Jan's site doesn't provide value? In what way? Lack of quality content or not enough content?
        It doesn't matter what I think

        Yes, the content is actually read. In my opinion yes the site does not provide enough value in amount of content and quality of what is there. According to the research I have done, they don't necessarily zap the site based on JUST the "value" of the content. It is a variety of factors...but sites like these have alot of those warning signs as I stated in my other post.

        And also - I just looked at a post above, apparently the OP had hidden links in his text. Ummm yea that is likely another possible reason why you got deindexed instead of just penalized. Using hidden links is a big mistake.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nero Arcnumé
    Maybe I missed it on your site but it seems your privacy policy isn't in complete accordance to Amazon. If you look at the Associates Program Operating Agreement point #10, you'll read:
    Identifying Yourself as an Associate

    You will not issue any press release or make any other public communication with respect to this Operating Agreement, your use of the Content, or your participation in the Program. You will not misrepresent or embellish the relationship between us and you (including by expressing or implying that we support, sponsor, endorse, or contribute to any charity or other cause), or express or imply any relationship or affiliation between us and you or any other person or entity except as expressly permitted by this Operating Agreement. You must, however, clearly state the following on your site: “[Insert your name] is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to [insert the applicable site name (amazon.com, endless.com, smallparts.com or myhabit.com)].”
    And if you use the product advertising API, check out that license agreement, #4.q:
    If you display Product Advertising Content consisting of text on your application, you will include the following disclaimer in plain view to end-users of your application: "CERTAIN CONTENT THAT APPEARS [IN THIS APPLICATION or ON THIS SITE, as applicable] COMES FROM AMAZON SERVICES LLC. THIS CONTENT IS PROVIDED ‘AS IS’ AND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR REMOVAL AT ANY TIME.
    Now, I doubt Google de-indexed you because of this but if you're making more sites in the future, make sure your policies are compliant to Amazon as well, cause you never know.

    Skip this post if you have these things on your website and I didn't see them ;P
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @nero- ah, thanks for that point. I missed it.

    @cool hand- I did follow Jan's spec on this site. I even originally had the original theme that he suggested us using. When I found this new theme several months ago I switched this site over because I really liked it. That's why there are 301 redirects on this site, because this new theme makes you use "/reviews" in the URL. Then as far as I know Jan also started using this theme and now I believe recommends it. (although I'm not sure about this part).
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
      Originally Posted by natewc View Post

      @nero- ah, thanks for that point. I missed it.

      @cool hand- I did follow Jan's spec on this site. I even originally had the original theme that he suggested us using. When I found this new theme several months ago I switched this site over because I really liked it. That's why there are 301 redirects on this site, because this new theme makes you use "/reviews" in the URL. Then as far as I know Jan also started using this theme and now I believe recommends it. (although I'm not sure about this part).
      What 301's are you talking about? I didn't notice this. Can you clarify?
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  • Profile picture of the author corelle
    Thanks Cool Hand Luke & Bill_Z, both your comments are very helpful.

    What's a good free alternative to Google Analytics?
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  • Profile picture of the author Valuable Solos
    I would say the "spun articles", low amount of pages, not cloaking your affiliate links and hidden links are the main problems. Also, did you link to sub-pages as well or just the homepage? Linking only to the homepage is not natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    You could ask for a re-inclusion request, and hopefully ask what it is you've done wrong, someone might reply with info pertaining to that
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Can people please stop spouting out BS like "you don't have enough pages combined with too many affiliate links". Do you guys know how much of the internet is made up of 1 page sales sites and 1 page legitimate business pages. If Google started deindexing every site that only had a few pages and lots of sales links then half the internet would be gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @dp40- so what do you think the problem is

    @bill_z- I had reveiws originally posted as domain/pilates-machines after I changed the theme I had to change the url to domain/reviews/pilates-machines (just an example) so I had to use 301 redirects for all the links going to the old pages. This was several months ago so I don't think this had anything to do with it. Plus I only had to do that on a couple of sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author cweber
      Originally Posted by natewc View Post

      @dp40- so what do you think the problem is

      @bill_z- I had reveiws originally posted as domain/pilates-machines after I changed the theme I had to change the url to domain/reviews/pilates-machines (just an example) so I had to use 301 redirects for all the links going to the old pages. This was several months ago so I don't think this had anything to do with it. Plus I only had to do that on a couple of sites.
      The 301 redirects aren't the problem here. I did the same thing as you with one of my sites. I originally had it set up with a different product review theme then I saw the proreview theme and really liked it so when I switched to it I had to do the 301 redirects to it as well and it didn't affect me at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
      Originally Posted by natewc View Post

      @dp40- so what do you think the problem is
      Assuming the OP is fully disclosing everything he knows. The only way all these sites would be de-indexed is because of analytics. There are no other ties. Once again assuming the OP didn't have any reciprocal link schemes going on with these sites or other sites that he's not discussing (maybe a plugin.. possibly?)

      So assuming all is clean it means a manual review happened and they felt the system was being gamed so much that the search department called over to the analytics department, which mind you are completely separate and de-indexed his sites. Such a bold manual intervention into the algorithm would only happen if they felt the system was being gamed. Hence backlinks.
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      • Profile picture of the author athenistic
        I agree with dp40oz, but I thought I'd point out that you still have a number of links that are still being followed. That's the biggest thing I can see that would have a major impact. I've seen entire sites go down because I've had a single affiliate link with no nofollow tag.
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  • Profile picture of the author Expert35
    First check your webmasters tools and see what's the problem. Your site didn't seem professionally SEO so if you used the same keyword strategy for all, plus out sourced your backlinks by the same company that's a serious problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author natewc
    @athenistic- not sure what you mean....your saying because the affiliate links are do follow that is a problem? Or this "I've seen entire sites go down because I've had a single affiliate link with no nofollow tag."?

    @expert I wasn't using webmasters tools before, but I added two of the sites in after someone suggested the same and no messages or errors.

    I was the professional SEO ...by that I mean I didn't pay anyone else to do links etc, other than my VA who used SENUKE, ALN, and BMR (for a couple of months) all under my direction

    @dp40 nothing to hide and that's the whole story, that's why I outed one of my sites that has been a steady earner for me
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  • Profile picture of the author MaverickUK
    Come on , let's be realistic here. Google will only ever de-index a site or group of sites if they were in serious breach of their guidelines. Duplicate content is highly unlikely to cause a site, or group of sites, to be de-indexed.

    Whatever the problem was there was obviously a factor that was apparent across all of the affected websites. Just because you own ONE website that goes against their guidelines it doesn't mean that they'll come at you all guns blazing and decide to de-index all of your sites, just because one of them were dodgey.

    I strongly suggest you review your practices and websites to ensure they're compliant. Google didn't de-index you for fun, they did it to ensure the quality and integrity of their results.

    I'm also very surprised at one of the replies in this thread from people who, sadly, don't really have a clue as to what they're talking about. It's amazing that people would think that because an affiliate link is dofollow, that it would affect rankings and/or the indexation of a site - this is insane.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
      Originally Posted by MaverickUK View Post

      I'm also very surprised at one of the replies in this thread from people who, sadly, don't really have a clue as to what they're talking about. It's amazing that people would think that because an affiliate link is dofollow, that it would affect rankings and/or the indexation of a site - this is insane.
      No it won't affect your rankings but why would someone want to pass page rank to an affiliate offer they are trying to out rank themselves in Google,
      That being said always nofollow affiliate links.
      I found a interesting article about this subject on Andrew Hansens blog Here
      Check out #3

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  • Profile picture of the author jikanv
    One of my site got "de-Indexed" all of a sudden by google. Going from the first, second and third pages, to the last page overnight. Literally, Every one of the 23 pages were on the last page. I still had some traffic from bings and aol and stuff, but no google.

    I stopped backlinking and waited. Close to two months have passed and a couple of days ago, I started to see google links. I checked the site and most of my keywords are on the first page now. (most of them) while before they were mostly on the second and third page.

    I am not sure if the issues are the same with yours, but it's possible.

    The site don't really gets de-indexed, because if you type in your domain name I am sure it'll come up. You had paid for the domain name and it'll display when you type it in.
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    • Profile picture of the author ninal
      Originally Posted by jikanv View Post

      One of my site got "de-Indexed" all of a sudden by google. Going from the first, second and third pages, to the last page overnight. Literally, Every one of the 23 pages were on the last page. I still had some traffic from bings and aol and stuff, but no google.

      I stopped backlinking and waited. Close to two months have passed and a couple of days ago, I started to see google links. I checked the site and most of my keywords are on the first page now. (most of them) while before they were mostly on the second and third page..
      Your site wasn't deindexed. You merely experienced either a dance, penalty or sandbox.

      Deindexed is when you google 'site:mydomain.com' and nothing comes up.
      So your case is completely different from that of the op's.
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    • Profile picture of the author bob100
      Google is a jealous master. If you are making them $$ you can get away with a lot. if you are only doing aff marketing and have no adsense at all then deindexing you does not hurt them, they can do it and feel they have improved the serps.

      The site did look spammy with all the aff links but that is just an opinion, can't say for sure it hurt you but remember you only get one chance to make the right impression on a person landing on your site for a manual review.

      One thing I have never ever done is place aff links on my home pages though adsense is on some of my WP sites home pages. I am now using a plugin on my newer sites that allows me to keep adsense off the home page so the site looks less spammy that way. Don't know if that actually means anything but I always felt better keeping that stuff off the home page. I just place a nice intro article there talking about the site, why it is there and what it is about.

      One thing I did notice is the way you would have a category then one single review page on the drop down right under it. That bugged me some how.

      As for GA, I would not run it due to the easy footprint thing but you do realize that google can easily find all of your amazon aff sites by reading your aff code in the amazon links right?

      Another thing lots of people don't know, google is a licensed domain registrar, though they don't offer this service to the public. They have access to all whois data and can track you that way if you use your real name and address to register all of your domains. I have on occasion used different names to reg domains but for the most part since I run adsense on almost every site I own, I don't worry about this.

      I do think using java cloaked links helps keep that kind of footprint away from google.

      Another thing, did you use all the exact same anchor text in your incoming links? Dead givaway to a spam site. When you get links naturally there is all kinds of link text used.

      When link building use a lot of different long tail related keywords/phrases. use no-follow links also. use stupid crap some times like "click here" etc.

      Watch the full steam ahead spam link building campaigns. Do more link pyramids. use a 4 tier site system. Spam link only to your 1st and 2nd tear sites then use only top quality links to your 2 top tear sites.

      What is a top tier link? Something such as a squidoo link or wikipedia link or a link from a top tear blog such as edu or .gov. Do some research on link pyramids and up your link game next time. Do some facebook links and also some youtube links.

      Hope something in this post helps you.

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      • Profile picture of the author TammieJJ
        What plugin are you using to keep adsense off your home page?
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  • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
    So, what if we have all of our sites in GA and Webmaster tools? But we remove them all right now? Do you think the footprint will still exist in the future?
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    • Profile picture of the author bob100
      Originally Posted by AudioRoxor View Post

      So, what if we have all of our sites in GA and Webmaster tools? But we remove them all right now? Do you think the footprint will still exist in the future?
      Yes, google never forgets. Your best bet is to make sure your sites are not spammy gateways with nothing but aff links every where. I believe natewc's sites were red flagged then manual reviewed.

      The manual review is what nailed him to the wall. The GA and amazon aff footprint was what allowed them to find and review and de-list every site in his portfolio.

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      • Profile picture of the author cweber
        Originally Posted by bob100 View Post

        Yes, google never forgets. Your best bet is to make sure your sites are not spammy gateways with nothing but aff links every where. I believe natewc's sites were red flagged then manual reviewed.

        The manual review is what nailed him to the wall. The GA and amazon aff footprint was what allowed them to find and review and de-list every site in his portfolio.

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        How can they track you by your affiliate ID when you can have a different tracking id for every one of your amazon sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author bob100
          Originally Posted by cweber View Post

          How can they track you by your affiliate ID when you can have a different tracking id for every one of your amazon sites?
          You are right if the aff ID was/is different for every site then they can't. My experience is mostly with other aff systems such as sharasale and cj etc. I'll have to try and get up to speed on how amazon works.Sorry

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    @bob nah, my affiliate links use a different code for each site so I can track them. No the backlinks I built used varied anchor text

    @kiss no the sites weren't all backlinked to each other. I may of had one or two sites that had a one way link to another site within an article but no more than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
    So much misinformation in this thread, it's comical, lol.

    OP, do not waste another second thinking about those sites, they are dead, leave them be and build new sites. You are wasting time, however three quick suggestions when building new sites:

    1. Avoid hyphens as much as possible, example Google prefers: buynewsunglasses.com or buynewsunglassesv instead of buy-new-sunglasses.com.

    2. Do NOT use Google Analytics

    3. Do NOT build only sites around Amazon, diversify.

    ( If you don't want to start from scratch, just buy aged domains and start from there since they already have age and trust, and even backlinks. )
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      DP is right. This probably came down to backlinks not the least of is the use of Senuke. A huge amount of manual reviews are done because sites are reported by competitors. Some of the easiest links for competitors to spot as spam are unfortunately what a lot of people rely on

      Forum profile links
      Bookmarks
      web 2.0

      Since the sites were all linked in GA only one competitor in one of the serps had to report the site to the web spam team.

      So they can report them and then when the reviewer reviews the site and sees the weak content as well it becomes an issue to add to that. Op the only thing you can do is create a much better site, remove the spammy links and ask for a reconsideration but given your niche and monetization setup you have a very slim chance of Google reversing things.

      Sorry to say but for now at least you might be at a dead end.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rua999
      Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

      So much misinformation in this thread, it's comical, lol.

      OP, do not waste another second thinking about those sites, they are dead, leave them be and build new sites. You are wasting time, however three quick suggestions when building new sites:

      1. Avoid hyphens as much as possible, example Google prefers: buynewsunglasses.com or buynewsunglassesv instead of buy-new-sunglasses.com.

      2. Do NOT use Google Analytics

      3. Do NOT build only sites around Amazon, diversify.

      ( If you don't want to start from scratch, just buy aged domains and start from there since they already have age and trust, and even backlinks. )
      Lol all hail the SEO master.. who said hyphens don't work in a domain.. i know of many a niche where one page hyphenated domain names are ranking.. try "marijuana seeds for sale" for an example with an exact search volume of over 3,500.

      Granted i have the benefit of reading this thread over a year after it was posted but it's funny to see some people thinking they know it all when infact it was the BMR and ALN links that got the OP's sites deindexed.

      The point is, why bother even commenting if you don't know what you're talking about... to inflate your post count?!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Something isn't right about this.

    The site in OP is still in the Index only the IP is showing up instead of the domain name in Google SERPs.


    "home studio or you’ve just decided to incorporate Pilates into your lifestyle" - Google Search

    The date on the SERP is 11/25/2011. The date on the OP is 12/14/2011.

    Did I miss something in this thread?

    It's starting to look like a hosting/webmaster problem to me.


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