********SEO Depresses Me!!! Please HELP... *****

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I have this fitness website that is 1 year old and I have been constantly back linking it. I was ranking no 2 for most of my keywords and getting loads of traffic.


The past month my website disappeared from top 100 and then it came back to number 9 after a few weeks...Now it has dropped again....


What is wrong? I have recently created some high pr page back links and also updated the blog with unique,quality content.


Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author patrich
    Sounds like a google dance to me. If you are actively building backlinks and adding new content, sometimes google bounces you around until they decide where to put you in the serps. Just continue building backlinks, vary your anchor text a bit and throw some backlinks at the inner pages of your site, you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Get prepared to constant "dancing", yes ESPECIALLY if you are doing link building at the same time. This is especially "pleasant" if you have a site for sale on Flippa because it's a given that the keyword(s) will NOT rank at the usual position if your potential customer checks out the rankings .) (As happened to me)

    But..it's normal...worst what can happen is that they bounce back for a week or two but then come back stronger.
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  • Profile picture of the author edthetester
    i thought that it would not bounce after such a long period of time...i mean, the domain is not that new anymore
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  • Profile picture of the author edthetester
    i am back linking my inner pages as well...i also have good interlinking ...using relevant anchor text, also getting back links from actual page pr
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    Looks like the effects of backlinking. This can happen if you give your site a sudden burst of backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author edthetester
      Originally Posted by Zeb View Post

      Looks like the effects of backlinking. This can happen if you give your site a sudden burst of backlinks.
      to be fair i haven't created that many back links....it is an emd and i have created 90% of the back links to the home page and the rest to some of the internal pages. I would say a maximum of 20 links that are p2+
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    • Profile picture of the author edthetester
      to be fair i haven't created that many back links....it is an emd and i have created 90% of the back links to the home page and the rest to some of the internal pages. I would say a maximum of 20 links that are p2+
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      • Profile picture of the author Theeban
        Originally Posted by edthetester View Post

        to be fair i haven't created that many back links....it is an emd and i have created 90% of the back links to the home page and the rest to some of the internal pages. I would say a maximum of 20 links that are p2+
        I guess sudden more high PR backlinks make Google to behave like this, I assume that all those high PR links are DOFOLLOW even, So our Big "G" would have put a suspect eye on your site , to cool Big "G" - I would suggest to get some NOFOLLOW links (Specially bookmarks) for now and get index them, that may give you your rank back as far as you did not violate any of their major considerations....
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Red
    The most important thing is not to stop the flow of linking you are doing. Google does stuff like this all the time. It could be anything from a string of bad backlinks, to bad content or whatever. But if your site originally had good rankings, then, it has a reason to be at the top.

    Keep backlinking, analyze your current backlinks, and go for more quality links.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Google is a cruel mistress.

    You just have to accept that sometimes SEO is about watching your site jump all around the place.

    As stated above, keep up with consistent high quality backlinks (hint: don't aim for only high PR, you're wasting your time).

    Keep adding new content but try not to change existing content around too much, unless it is bad quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    The 'ol Google dance is never any fun. All you can do is ride it out and keep building those quality links.
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    • Profile picture of the author barvas11
      Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

      The 'ol Google dance is never any fun. All you can do is ride it out and keep building those quality links.
      like selling links from faked PR8 domain gearmonkey?
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  • Profile picture of the author carlamax
    so sad,i thing you are up and down with your seo strategy that is why google drop your site...but you say you have quality backlinks,in this case this is because of google dancing...
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  • Originally Posted by edthetester View Post

    I have this fitness website that is 1 year old and I have been constantly back linking it. I was ranking no 2 for most of my keywords and getting loads of traffic.


    The past month my website disappeared from top 100 and then it came back to number 9 after a few weeks...Now it has dropped again....


    What is wrong? I have recently created some high pr page back links and also updated the blog with unique,quality content.


    Thank you!
    It's just the Google dance, which will occur when building backlinks to your website. Just continue building high quality links to your site, and its ranking will continue to increase.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Google can definitely depress you, but you still need to persevere. If your site is doing well and you're earning from it then you need to continue building links.

    Mix up the type of links you're building. High PR, low PR, do follow, no follow, just don't rely on any type of link. The better you mix it up the better chance you have of no dancing as you have a more diverse link portfolio.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by edthetester View Post

    What is wrong? I have recently created some high pr page back links and also updated the blog with unique,quality content.
    Hi edthetester,

    First, search engines do not rank websites, they rank individual web pages. Rankings are based on the relevancy of the content contained on the page, as well as the content on the pages that link to your page.

    Naturally, if you update your blog with new content, you have changed the basis for your rankings. You should expect your rankings to change. The typical blog configuration will replace the top post anytime you add a new post. Eventually content that was contained on the Posts page will be pushed off of that page as new content gets added.

    This does have a significant effect on rankings for your Posts page, and the typical blog is configured to use the Posts page as the homepage. Therefor you should expect a great deal of fluctuation in your homepage rankings if you are updating your blog on a regular basis.

    Likewise, when you create new backlinks you are also influencing the relevancy signals that search engines use to rank your pages and that too can cause your rankings to go up or down based on those altered signals.
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    • Profile picture of the author edthetester
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Hi edthetester,

      First, search engines do not rank websites, they rank individual web pages. Rankings are based on the relevancy of the content contained on the page, as well as the content on the pages that link to your page.

      Naturally, if you update your blog with new content, you have changed the basis for your rankings. You should expect your rankings to change. The typical blog configuration will replace the top post anytime you add a new post. Eventually content that was contained on the Posts page will be pushed off of that page as new content gets added.

      This does have a significant effect on rankings for your Posts page, and the typical blog is configured to use the Posts page as the homepage. Therefor you should expect a great deal of fluctuation in your homepage rankings if you are updating your blog on a regular basis.

      Likewise, when you create new backlinks you are also influencing the relevancy signals that search engines use to rank your pages and that too can cause your rankings to go up or down based on those altered signals.
      Yeah, I know pages are ranked, not websites. Quick typing mistake ...I guess I wrote that because the main keyword is on the home page and the home page was ranked for the main kw for the site.

      I have been adding content every 2 weeks ,but to be fair, I have stopped building links for 2 months and then started again. This might be the cause.


      When people say that I should keep building links, does it have any importance if you stop building links to a specific page(that is already ranked high)and link to other pages to get other kws ranked high? I hope that makes sense
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  • Profile picture of the author solado
    Sounds like a google dance, keep the link building going.

    If you have any new backlinks on your website however check them out to make sure there not dodgy websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author richardtj
    ensure all your outbound links are nofollow and that there aren't any links in the footer- Google sees these as paid links and will consider them spam. The reason you're bouncing around is that every few days when you do a search, you'll be landing on a different data centre and each centre is slightly different from the last in the way it ranks you. Have the same problem here with inconsistent results as I use 2 x different isps (at home and work) and they never show the same results as they dial into different Google data centres.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by richardtj View Post

      ensure all your outbound links are nofollow and that there aren't any links in the footer- Google sees these as paid links and will consider them spam.
      Hi richardtj,

      Where did you hear that?

      I have never heard of anything like that.

      Google advises webmasters to use the nofollow attribute on links place by third party contributors (users), paid links and any link that isn't trusted by the webmaster. This implies that links with nofollow are likely to be paid or spam and not the other way around.

      You shouldn't be adding links to your website that aren't trusted, so when you do add a link without the nofollow attribute, you are telling Google that it is a useful trusted link. Unless Google discovers otherwise, they treat those links as trusted links, not paid or spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by richardtj View Post

      ensure all your outbound links are nofollow and that there aren't any links in the footer- Google sees these as paid links and will consider them spam.
      This is seriously the biggest nonsense I've ever read.

      Back ontopic: To OP, is it your mainpage that lost rankings and do you have a static page there or is it changing all the time when you add blog posts? That could explain it.
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  • This seems to happen from time to time. I have a site that bounces around all the time and is also about a year old. Only Google knows for sure why this is, but I say just keep working on it. Also don't put all your eggs in one basket. Have a variety of sites and try to rank those as well.That way if one of your sites goes walkabout, you will have others to bring you income.
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  • Profile picture of the author edthetester
    How about aged domains? Do they still experience the google dance
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