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10 years ago

I doubt you'd be able to rank with it on it's own in a competitive niche, and definitely not with the standard list of sites you get with it.

I run it almost daily and end up with "live links" from 180-200 unique domains in total after one submission. There are some with decent PR and many with low or no PR.

It is a good supplemental tool and can be used in many ways but if you're planning on it being your only source of links you probably won't get very far.

The same can be said about most tools/services, though.

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CombatMode

10 years ago

Agreed,
Moreover the success rate has has recently been very bad. I never get more than 50 successful live links.Would like to hear more.

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I doubt you'd be able to rank with it on it's own in a competitive niche, and definitely not with the standard list of sites you get with it.

It is a good supplemental tool and can be used in many ways but if you're planning on it being your only source of links you probably won't get very far.

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baza1955

10 years ago

Wow Pat!,

Those are pretty great results from your AMR submissions. Wish I could come close to getting those results. I've added thousands of article directories trying to 'up' the number of 'successful' submissions.

Although I do believe AMR is a good piece of software, it can be frustrating when dealing with the high numbers of failed-login responses that are returned. It would be great to have a set 200 directories that would actually post your articles on every submission.

Anyway, keep up the good work. Good onya mate!

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Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I doubt you'd be able to rank with it on it's own in a competitive niche, and definitely not with the standard list of sites you get with it.

I run it almost daily and end up with "live links" from 180-200 unique domains in total after one submission. There are some with decent PR and many with low or no PR.

It is a good supplemental tool and can be used in many ways but if you're planning on it being your only source of links you probably won't get very far.

The same can be said about most tools/services, though.

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rooze

10 years ago

Most of the sites AMR submits to are spammy sites and are pretty useless. Even the bigger sites it submits to aren't going to pass you much link juice. These article directories in the most part have been devalued by Google so using their backlinks to try and boost your own SERP's is pretty much worthless unless you are in a low competition niche.
You can use AMR in a different way though. If you get into article syndication, you can use it in a legitimate way to distribute your articles through a 'real' author account to perhaps a dozen or so websites which might get your work syndicated.
But that generally involves writing a different type of article than the one I think you have in mind.

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cooler1

10 years ago

The submission success rate with AMR seems to have got worser recently. When I first got AMR last year, I usually got about 450 successful submissions and that was just with using the article directories AMR comes with.

I added a list of article directories and the submission success rate was only about 200 with over 1000 failed.

I think to get good results with AMR, you need a list of directories which hasn't been shared around the internet. I doubt you'd be able to rank well for a competitive keyword solely by using AMR though as too many links from the same domains lose value.

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Holmstrom

10 years ago

You Can do it with out any those "robots" and without any backlinks.
Just choose your keywords carefully, write 1 or 2 over 800 word articles on static/home page and do on page seo carefully. I have done it 3 times, so its not such a luck.
This is what you might consider before you buy any "tools" or write 100"s articles.
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monere

10 years ago

Thanks for the replies. It seems that no one tested this yet.

Oh well, was more of a curiosity for me rather than a SEO strategy I planned on following.

take care!

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cooler1

10 years ago

Originally Posted by monere

Thanks for the replies. It seems that no one tested this yet.

Oh well, was more of a curiosity for me rather than a SEO strategy I planned on following.

take care!

I think you'll get more advice on AMR in the SEO forum. This main forum is too general.

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monere 10 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

I think you'll get more advice on AMR in the SEO forum. This main forum is too general.

I didn't know there was a forum specifically for AMR. Thanks for pointing out
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TBInternetMarketing

10 years ago

Originally Posted by monere

Hi,

I keep reading left and right how wonderful and amazing and powerful and what not AMR (Article Marketing Robot) is and for a second I was just about to purchase it.

Personally I doubt it is. I bought it, used it, and didn't really get great results about a year ago.
Most of the links don't even get indexed by Google.

Personally I'd focus on something else, I certainly do.

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clean99

10 years ago

Hey, I have AMR and honestly it's not that good. Most of the directories in the list are dead. Okay I thought, lets buy a list and import it. Got a lot of signups - over 4000. Start submitting my articles and got about 1500 submitted. 2 month later I decided to see which articles have been approved, the result??? just over 100.... And that's after doing quality spinning myself (I spun each paragraph, each sentence in the paragraph and most of the words)
If you are looking into article submitter go with Unique Article Wizard. The only downfall here is that you have to pay for it on monthly basis as AMR only had a one time payment.
If you are looking at one time payment software than just go with Article Bot, it's only $25. I haven't used it but I have other products from this company, specifically Directory Bot, Social Bot, RSS Bot and Press Bot and they do their job, so most likely you will be able to get same 100 approved articles if you use Article Bot

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cooler1

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Russerg

Hey, I have AMR and honestly it's not that good. Most of the directories in the list are dead. Okay I thought, lets buy a list and import it. Got a lot of signups - over 4000. Start submitting my articles and got about 1500 submitted. 2 month later I decided to see which articles have been approved, the result??? just over 100.... And that's after doing quality spinning myself (I spun each paragraph, each sentence in the paragraph and most of the words)
If you are looking into article submitter go with Unique Article Wizard. The only downfall here is that you have to pay for it on monthly basis as AMR only had a one time payment.
If you are looking at one time payment software than just go with Article Bot, it's only $25. I haven't used it but I have other products from this company, specifically Directory Bot, Social Bot, RSS Bot and Press Bot and they do their job, so most likely you will be able to get same 100 approved articles if you use Article Bot

I've heard that AMR doesn't detect all directories which have approved the submission. Maybe some technical hitch prevents it logging in and checking all of them.

Did you create an RSS feed out of your live links reports to submit to RSS directories to increase the index rate?

Have you had a lot better success rate with UAW?

You probably bought a list which many other people have downloaded so the directories have been bombarded with submissions. Its best to have a unique list.

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clean99

10 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Did you create an RSS feed out of your live links reports to submit to RSS directories to increase the index rate?

Have you had a lot better success rate with UAW?

Thanks for the advice, because I haven't done that.

No I haven't used UAW but I heard people say how amazing it is. But I don't like the idea of paying monthly so I will have to pass on that.

Are there any new article submission tools out there?

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Spartan78 10 years ago

Eu zic ca e mai convenabil asa, adica sa se puna baza mai multa pe continut. Asa scri cateva articole slabute, le ridici in SERPS cu toolurile astea pentru backlinkuri, dar problema sti care e ? Schimba astia algoritmul zbori de pe prima pagina si ai aruncat banii degeaba pe baclinkuri si tooluri. Eu am dat drumul la un site in octombrie. Am facut onpage SEO H1, H2, H3 sa aiba cuvantul cheie sau variatie a cuvantului, Keywordurile maxim 2%, articolele intre 500-800 de cuvinte, iar backlinkurile le am facut maxim 15 pe zi si majoritatea din social bookmarking. Continutul am cautat sa fie calitativ, adica informatie de calitate. Deci vreau sa-ti spun ca aproape toate articolele sunt pe prima si a 2-pagina pt cuvantul cheie targhetat. Deci nu mi-a venit sa cred. Si am avut keyworduri cu concurenta si de 400.000, 500.000 in " ". Si inca o chestie ce am observat ...cu cat pui mai mult continut cu atat de premiaza google mai mult. Am ajuns deja la 400 de unici pe zi.
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monere

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Russerg

Hey, I have AMR and honestly it's not that good. Most of the directories in the list are dead. Okay I thought, lets buy a list and import it. Got a lot of signups - over 4000. Start submitting my articles and got about 1500 submitted. 2 month later I decided to see which articles have been approved, the result??? just over 100.... And that's after doing quality spinning myself (I spun each paragraph, each sentence in the paragraph and most of the words)
If you are looking into article submitter go with Unique Article Wizard. The only downfall here is that you have to pay for it on monthly basis as AMR only had a one time payment.
If you are looking at one time payment software than just go with Article Bot, it's only $25. I haven't used it but I have other products from this company, specifically Directory Bot, Social Bot, RSS Bot and Press Bot and they do their job, so most likely you will be able to get same 100 approved articles if you use Article Bot

I own about 6-7 Incansoft bots myself but I only keep them installed on my desktop cause I want to show off

Never used them fully, except the RSS submitter which I use from time to time.

Anyway, I don't know why everyone says how amazing AMR is (probably because of the ease of use) but you confirm indeed that the list of directories started to suck lately. So, AMR is gone then in what concerns me. As for UAW, I don't have this money yet. But I ordered several Fiverr gigs for UAW submissions over the last year and while the gig sellers were pretty popular/high rated/professional etc and delivered what they promised in their gigs, I don't think I ever got more than 50-100 approved submissions from UAW (and that despite the fact that I was promoting very popular niches like health, distance learning, or gardening and you would tend to think that one would really get tons of backlinks in these niches) And no, I didn't get them as trackbacks/pingbacks or whatever either.

So UAW is gone for me too. I will see what I can do, I am glad so many SEO services and blog networks come and go almost daily. Lots of goodies to choose from.

Thanks for the tips

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Spartan78 10 years ago

Salut! In sfarsit vad un roman pe aici. Cu noul algoritm de la google trebuie sa ai grija cu toolurile astea. Eu am reusit sa-mi aduc aproape toate articolele pe prima pagina doar cu on page SEO si cateva higt PR backlinks facute manual. Daca vrei succes pe termen lung eu zic sa-ti faci baclinkurile in timp.
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simon25i

10 years ago

I think that it is a black hat seo. Is it..?

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powerboss

10 years ago

AMR is have some issues today, even their sales website is down, seems like some update or big issue.

Btw, many directories in AMR list are now dead or not accepting new submissions.

Very low % of success rate and submissions are done to any category it wishes to.

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Fixers

10 years ago

It is not too great to hit your money site with but fine to hit your tier 1 sites with and get you some more link juice.

Most tools have their place, just finding their right place is the key!!

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jimmyn 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Fixers

Most tools have their place, just finding their right place is the key!!

Most tools find their place on an IM forum from what i've seen.
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Mantasmo

10 years ago

I was powerful when it first came out. Not so much these days though...

Still good for supplemental links and stuff. Not going to get you ranked for competitive terms.

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monere

10 years ago

Originally Posted by bnetwork

I was powerful when it first came out. Not so much these days though...

Still good for supplemental links and stuff. Not going to get you ranked for competitive terms.

I know that no backlink building tool can rank you alone for terms like weight loss, web hosting, online education, etc., but I never thought about these terms anyway

When I started the thread I was having in mind terms like "external hard drive" or "plantar wart removal", "small area rugs" etc (you get the idea)

But I doubt that I can rank even these terms using solely AMR. At least that's the general opinion of people who use the submitter.

And like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I gave up the idea of purchasing AMR anyway, unless it soon comes with a revolutionary update or something.

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Mantasmo 10 years ago

Originally Posted by monere

When I started the thread I was having in mind terms like "external hard drive" or "plantar wart removal", "small area rugs" etc (you get the idea)

"external hard drive" is a pretty competitive keyword. Trust me.

No, AMR alone won't rank you for anything. If you're after keywords like "vitamins for pretty legs", then it'd be more economical to just get a quick social bookmarking blast and 2-3 high PR blog posts (top 3 pretty much guaranteed).

Anything more competitive is going to require more effort.
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Matt Ward

10 years ago

I have been a fan of AMR, but it's in a pretty broken state at the moment. They released a new update a few weeks ago that basically broke it completely and then the author had real life issues shortly after and hasn't been able to issue an update yet.

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nik0

Banned 10 years ago

that was a few weeks ago man, it already works like always.

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Matt Ward

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

that was a few weeks ago man, it already works like always.

I totally disagree. The newest few versions have issues that made me drop back to the version from a few months ago, and even that is outdated due to the changes in the way some article directories work.

I found that the newest version was completely unusable. The biggest problem was user database errors; the software was simply not updating it properly. Saved articles overwrite each other, account status's are not updated properly, etc.

If you're thinking of buying AMR, I would hold off for a while until the current issues are resolved.

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halfpoint

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Ward

I totally disagree. The newest few versions have issues that made me drop back to the version from a few months ago, and even that is outdated due to the changes in the way some article directories work.

I found that the newest version was completely unusable. The biggest problem was user database errors; the software was simply not updating it properly. Saved articles overwrite each other, account status's are not updated properly, etc.

If you're thinking of buying AMR, I would hold off for a while until the current issues are resolved.

I've been using the 2nd most recent version (.5 I think?) and it hasn't missed a beat. It has been working really well.

I will never use the current version of AMR until it has been out for at least 3 months or so. There is always, without failure, plenty of bugs every time a new version comes out.

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Bloggerkhan 10 years ago

@monere If you have had good success with BMR, why are you wanting to switch to AMR or something else?
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  @monere If you have had good success with BMR, why are you wanting to switch to AMR or something else?
  
  I've quit BMR because it was (and still is) expensive for me.
  
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mrclean78

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Ward

I have been a fan of AMR, but it's in a pretty broken state at the moment. They released a new update a few weeks ago that basically broke it completely and then the author had real life issues shortly after and hasn't been able to issue an update yet.

Yea most of us users are still waiting for an update. The program has been crashing like crazy. However when it does work it is an AWESOME program and will definately improve your serps!

I recommend scraping your own article-directory lists and loading them into the program, as the default database isn't that great though.

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cooler1

10 years ago

So the bottom line is AMR is only any good if you import a list? But to import a list you need Scrapebox which is extra $$$ if you don't already have it. You could buy a list from someone but that will have already been shared around the net and become saturated.

Is there anyone who is selling unique directory lists? Or doesn't it matter if the list has been shared because there still will be a lot less people using it than the article directories that came with AMR.

I've got AMR but its a nightmare now. It just crashes completely upon start up, its literally unusable.

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mosthost

10 years ago

Article directories are as popular as 'Depeche Mode' is these days.

Even Google knows they're crap. Time to update tactics, IMHO

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markowe

10 years ago

What's wrong with Depeche Mode?!

Seriously though, I kind of gave up with AMR a few months ago. The software is great at what it does, it's just a question of whether it has much effect. My conclusion was, not enough to be worth using. For helping boost some low comp keywords, maybe, otherwise...

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Thomas Strock

10 years ago

I have tried using AMR on it's own to rank moderate competition keywords, and from basic testing for a few months, it doesn't seem to be nearly as powerful as BuildMyRank. Not that it's a bad tool, but if you were choosing one or the other to use I would definitely recommend BMR. Hope this helps!

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jamesquin

10 years ago

My opinion - software very buggy, but decent amount of links, but you need more than just AMR even for keywords with little competition

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Austin357

10 years ago

I have been using AMR and recently it has degressed in quality. It has lots of sites are PR 0 and International (non-English). Most of the submissions fail. In my opinion, look for other options.

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monere

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Austin357

I have been using AMR and recently it has degressed in quality. It has lots of sites are PR 0 and International (non-English). Most of the submissions fail. In my opinion, look for other options.

Ye, that seems to be the general opinion lately about AMR

Reading through all these replies and watching as Google emphasizes on-page SEO and social signals more and more each day, I have totally given up the idea of acquiring AMR, or any other backlinking tool for that matter. At least for a year or so until some major algo update gives backlinking extra weight again.

Practically, Google eases our work tremendously as time goes by and I kind of like it already

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JackPowers

10 years ago

You're at least a year to late. This is what always happens when something gets to popular. It gets spammed to death just like with scrapebox and xrumer. First mover is essential.

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monere

10 years ago

Originally Posted by JackPowers

You're at least a year to late. This is what always happens when something gets to popular. It gets spammed to death just like with scrapebox and xrumer. First mover is essential.

You may be right but I can't afford all the new launches when the prices are the highest.

At least not yet

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imdomination

10 years ago

I like AMR, but I would never use ONLY AMR to rank a new site. Link building is all about diversity.

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monere 10 years ago

Originally Posted by imdomination

I like AMR, but I would never use ONLY AMR to rank a new site. Link building is all about diversity.

I know it is all about diversity. Actually, I heard it is all about diversity cause I haven't tested this myself.

But to be honest, last year I ranked the home page of a website at number 1 for its main keyword only by using BMR and the page is still there right now

So I am not so sure it's all about diversity

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