Why Does BMR Still Work?

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Here's a quick question I've had for a long time:

What is stopping a Google employee from signing up for BMR or other blog networks and using them for a few months and then identifying all of (or many) of their blogs for deindexing?

Maybe that's what they've been doing...

I can only assume they have better things to spend their time on or want people to think they don't know exactly what's up with blog networks.

I DO use blog networks, sometimes as a decent portion of my link building, but I simply cannot understand people who base their link building entirely around it and then get confused when their rankings drop significantly. It's because you are grossly gaming the system and you got caught. That's it, fair is fair right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
    Why is everyone so concerned with BMR lately? If you like it, use it. Mix it in with your other link building efforts and keep working your sites. If you don't like it or you are paranoid about its longevity, go back to whatever methods you feel more comfortable with.

    It is just a blog network that posts unique content. Its not an IM revolution.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      Originally Posted by Cantbedone! View Post

      Why is everyone so concerned with BMR lately? If you like it, use it. Mix it in with your other link building efforts and keep working your sites. If you don't like it or you are paranoid about its longevity, go back to whatever methods you feel more comfortable with.

      It is just a blog network that posts unique content. Its not an IM revolution.
      Geez, no kidding. How difficult can it be to let go of the drama?
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I think it is because they only accept unique content. Perhaps Google sees their content as valuable? I try to write my articles so that they have value. I usually don't stop at 150 words. I try to make some 200 or 250 words. I also do some 300 or 450 word articles too.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneMcc
      I think blogs on BMR do get deindexed every now and again. Like you however I am surprised that the whole network hasnt been blasted. It would be quite easy for google if they wanted to find most or at least a large percentage of the blogs in that network.
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    • Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      I think it is because they only accept unique content.
      Yea I'd agree with this. There are a lot more spammy worse backlinks out there than backlinks from BMR.
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  • Profile picture of the author StanTman
    Seems like a lot of their sites were deindexed lately and they stopped accepting new customers a few days ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by StanTman View Post

      Seems like a lot of their sites were deindexed lately and they stopped accepting new customers a few days ago.
      They're updating some stuff to make it even stronger. As far as I know, my sites are ranking.
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      • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        They're updating some stuff to make it even stronger. As far as I know, my sites are ranking.
        What kind of stuff are they updating? That sounds interesting. I've noticed that my posts are taking a longer time to get in the queue lately. They used to get queued within a few minutes or a half hour, now they're taking hours or even a day or more. I wonder if they're using more rigorous editing tools.
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          Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

          What kind of stuff are they updating? That sounds interesting. I've noticed that my posts are taking a longer time to get in the queue lately. They used to get queued within a few minutes or a half hour, now they're taking hours or even a day or more. I wonder if they're using more rigorous editing tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author nichesitebasics
    BMR probably sets itself apart because it has quality guidelines but I don't think anyone is visiting their blogs to get information. I think it can be used as part of an overall link building strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    There are blog networks which have indeed VERY strict quality guidelines, so the content is helpful to some extent. I haven't used BMR but use similar networks..you cant just write junk and post it for the sake of a link.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Also, BMR is very fussy about the sites that they will accept into their program. Look at the strict guidelines they have:

    BuildMyRank.com – Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » Domain Acceptance Guidelines

    If your site isn't good quality with unique content written by native English authors, you will probably be rejected. I read somewhere that you can't use BMR on a site that isn't in the Google index (too new to be indexed or deindexed).

    So, I'm thinking that Google may see BMR as good guys. They're not promoting spammy and horrible sites. They make sure your site is good before you can even build backlinks to it.

    There was a guy on the forum a week ago that was real angry and threatening to make trouble because his site was rejected by BMR.

    And now they have closed registrations to keep the network less crowded. I guess that's good news for current members. We will be staying on the home page of the blogs longer.
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    • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Also, BMR is very fussy about the sites that they will accept into their program. Look at the strict guidelines they have:

      BuildMyRank.com - Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » Domain Acceptance Guidelines

      If your site isn't good quality with unique content written by native English authors, you will probably be rejected. I read somewhere that you can't use BMR on a site that isn't in the Google index (too new to be indexed or deindexed).

      So, I'm thinking that Google may see BMR as good guys. They're not promoting spammy and horrible sites. They make sure your site is good before you can even build backlinks to it.

      There was a guy on the forum a week ago that was real angry and threatening to make trouble because his site was rejected by BMR.

      And now they have closed registrations to keep the network less crowded. I guess that's good news for current members. We will be staying on the home page of the blogs longer.
      Well said, I think Google looks at BMR and see's an online business who only accepts stuff that Google wants. Good looking, easy to read, non-porn, non-gambling sites.

      The fact that they only accept unique content is probably their biggest plus in the eyes of Google. It also works in our favor because as we all know, consistent-unique content will make your sites very powerful domains. So their blog network is getting stronger and helping us out with every post we submit.

      Also, like you said, closed registrations will only help us as well because we'll stay up on the home pages longer.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jool
        Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

        Well said, I think Google looks at BMR and see's an online business who only accepts stuff that Google wants. Good looking, easy to read, non-porn, non-gambling sites.

        The fact that they only accept unique content is probably their biggest plus in the eyes of Google. It also works in our favor because as we all know, consistent-unique content will make your sites very powerful domains. So their blog network is getting stronger and helping us out with every post we submit.

        Also, like you said, closed registrations will only help us as well because we'll stay up on the home pages longer.
        Yes. I agree with you. And regarding their Membership Closed temporarily, they closed it because they received numbers of sign ups recently and they are trying to control the growth of their site.

        Remember, they have to review the articles and the domains before they will approved it. So there must be a lot of work for them. I understand that they just want to make sure the quality of the domains and articles.

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  • Profile picture of the author MaverickUK
    People like you, who constantly make BMR related threads, are the true threat to these networks. The more you guys talk about it, spam about it, waffle about it, the more chance it has of becoming an issue to the network.

    Seriously, just stop posting these threads and maybe, just maybe, it will have a fighting chance and people just like you can continue to use it for years to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author SAmarket
      The point is that G seem to prefer working things out with their Algo so it is automatic rather than hiring thousands more people to take apart blog networks like BMR manually.

      If they removed every single site BMR owns today then how long do you think it will before a new network opens up and takes all the paying customers! It will not solve their problem.

      Eventually G will figure out how to devalue these links and then lots of marketers are going to be in trouble.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
      Originally Posted by MaverickUK View Post

      People like you, who constantly make BMR related threads, are the true threat to these networks. The more you guys talk about it, spam about it, waffle about it, the more chance it has of becoming an issue to the network.

      Seriously, just stop posting these threads and maybe, just maybe, it will have a fighting chance and people just like you can continue to use it for years to come.
      You said what I was thinking...

      I like BMR because it is a much better quality network than any others that I've seen lately and I get a little worried that all this hype is going to bring it some negative scrutiny and get it squashed before its time...

      It is just a blog network that has higher quality content than most. There is no reason for all this noise. It may die out, it may last. Use it while it works and if it stops...we move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhorobins
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    Originally Posted by BenJackson View Post

    Here's a quick question I've had for a long time:

    What is stopping a Google employee from signing up for BMR or other blog networks and using them for a few months and then identifying all of (or many) of their blogs for deindexing?

    Maybe that's what they've been doing...

    I can only assume they have better things to spend their time on or want people to think they don't know exactly what's up with blog networks.

    I DO use blog networks, sometimes as a decent portion of my link building, but I simply cannot understand people who base their link building entirely around it and then get confused when their rankings drop significantly. It's because you are grossly gaming the system and you got caught. That's it, fair is fair right?
    Obviously because they only accept unique contents.
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    • Profile picture of the author RayW
      Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

      In fact, type "Build My Rank" into Google and BMR shows up very well.
      This makes no sense; just because a company's site is ranking well for its company name means Google likes them?? xrumer, scrapebox, and blackhatworld also rank well when you type in their name, you think Google likes them?
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      • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
        Originally Posted by MaverickUK View Post

        People like you, who constantly make BMR related threads, are the true threat to these networks. The more you guys talk about it, spam about it, waffle about it, the more chance it has of becoming an issue to the network.

        Seriously, just stop posting these threads and maybe, just maybe, it will have a fighting chance and people just like you can continue to use it for years to come.
        I don't use BMR, I use similar networks and this is my first and only post about BMR lol. Discussion taking place on a forum...how terrible...


        Originally Posted by SAmarket View Post

        The point is that G seem to prefer working things out with their Algo so it is automatic rather than hiring thousands more people to take apart blog networks like BMR manually.

        If they removed every single site BMR owns today then how long do you think it will before a new network opens up and takes all the paying customers! It will not solve their problem.

        Eventually G will figure out how to devalue these links and then lots of marketers are going to be in trouble.
        That's true, I think someday they'll figure out a way to find a common footprint or other way to stop blog networks and similar tactics from working.

        Originally Posted by RayW View Post

        Google IS working on taking down BMR. Many people are reporting their BMR links being gone after a few months to a year b/c the blogs they were on were deindexed. Google IS deindexing and has deindexed quite a lot of BMR's blogs. But BMR has a large enough customer base and enough money to keep on buying new blogs to replace the deindexed ones. When they are running short on the number of indexed blogs, they close their site to new members until they can get enough blogs again (this is basically their business model). So if you build links w/ BMR, it is likely that after 1-2 years, all of those links will likely be gone. You have to keep on building links continuously with BMR in order to sustain your rankings.
        Yea that's what I was thinking. Seems like only a short term strategy, but that doesn't make it invalid since it does work very well.

        If you use BMR to get higher rankings and make more money now you have more money to invest in other practices so that you'll always rank higher. Makes sense to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author RayW
          Originally Posted by BenJackson View Post

          Yea that's what I was thinking. Seems like only a short term strategy, but that doesn't make it invalid since it does work very well.
          Exactly. BMR should assist you in getting high rankings initially and gain exposure, but then it's your job to have quality content so you'll gain backlinks naturally now that you have exposure in the search engines.
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        • Profile picture of the author RayW
          Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

          It makes total sense. Google doesn't have to like them but if they wanted to, they could easily take even their main domain out of the search rankings if they wanted to, but they don't.
          Have you ever thought that maybe Google doesn't want to reveal to people which sites they don't like? They would be giving people a lot of information about their policies by doing that.

          Google isn't run by immature teenagers, it's not gonna single out a site like BMR and take it out of the rankings because it doesn't like them. Even if it did, other sites would just take its place. It's much more efficient to change the algorithm so that it devalues the type of links that BMR provides.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Google IS working on taking down BMR. Many people are reporting their BMR links being gone after a few months to a year b/c the blogs they were on were deindexed. Google IS deindexing and has deindexed quite a lot of BMR's blogs. But BMR has a large enough customer base and enough money to keep on buying new blogs to replace the deindexed ones. When they are running short on the number of indexed blogs, they close their site to new members until they can get enough blogs again (this is basically their business model). So if you build links w/ BMR, it is likely that after 1-2 years, all of those links will likely be gone. You have to keep on building links continuously with BMR in order to sustain your rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Strock
    What sets BMR apart from most blog networks is the fact that they only accept unique content and all posts are manually reviewed for grammar and spelling. That means that these posts at least have to provide a little bit of value to the reader which Google likes. I don't think Google has a problem with BMR in particular. They are more focused on cracking down on duplicate content, spammy, content farms.
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    I actually regret that they don't accept gambling sites because a VERY large portion of my money comes from gambling affiliates.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

      I actually regret that they don't accept gambling sites because a VERY large portion of my money comes from gambling affiliates.
      I wish they did too. I have two horse racing sites that I'd love to get some good links for.
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  • Profile picture of the author epathj
    BMR is friendly to google. they only accept unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    Anyone that thinks BMR posts provide value is fooling themselves. It's not meant to provide value, and it doesn't. What value is a 150 word post on "plumber san francisco" to anyone?

    Total meaningless gibberish doesn't mean anything. Google clearly intentionally hunts down and deindexes BMR domains in my experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      Anyone that thinks BMR posts provide value is fooling themselves. It's not meant to provide value, and it doesn't. What value is a 150 word post on "plumber san francisco" to anyone?

      Total meaningless gibberish doesn't mean anything. Google clearly intentionally hunts down and deindexes BMR domains in my experience.
      lol thank you, it really isn't quality content or anything near it. That's why I'm wondering why Google doesn't eradicate it entirely. It's basically contrived paid links - everyone knows Google doesn't approve of mass buying paid links.
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by BenJackson View Post

        lol thank you, it really isn't quality content or anything near it. That's why I'm wondering why Google doesn't eradicate it entirely. It's basically contrived paid links - everyone knows Google doesn't approve of mass buying paid links.

        It's because the Big G still can't tell what "quality" content is, and what isn't. BAM!

        In Googles eyes it seems to boil down to the uniqueness, spelling/grammar, and a good variety of LSI keywords that allows the algorithm to determine what the article is about. Yet these same articles can be completely incorrect, and sometimes even complete gibberish.

        In my opinion the only way BMR is going down the tubes is if Google manages to identify a footprint or pattern. As far as I can tell, the network is doing an excellent job at minimizing this.
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      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      Anyone that thinks BMR posts provide value is fooling themselves. It's not meant to provide value, and it doesn't. What value is a 150 word post on "plumber san francisco" to anyone?

      Total meaningless gibberish doesn't mean anything. Google clearly intentionally hunts down and deindexes BMR domains in my experience.
      Love the fact you just bashed BMR but you promote that as your #2 reason you rank well in Google on your affiliate website.



      Class act son, class act! LOL


      Are you just upset they shut down the affiliate program for a while
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

        Love the fact you just bashed BMR but you promote that as your #2 reason you rank well in Google on your affiliate website.



        Class act son, class act! LOL


        Are you just upset they shut down the affiliate program for a while
        Wow, nice catch :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
        Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

        Love the fact you just bashed BMR but you promote that as your #2 reason you rank well in Google on your affiliate website.



        Class act son, class act! LOL


        Are you just upset they shut down the affiliate program for a while
        I use the service and promote it. I don't promote anything I don't use. Are you saying that I'm not allowed to bash programs that I promote? It's pretty clear what BMR is. It doesn't pretend to be a ultra-high quality, value-providing network. It's meant to give users the ability to pump out unique, human-readable content (and those are the only requirements; it does not have to provide value and it never does) and they get a backlink in return. I don't think anyone thinks of it as anything else: it's the truth.

        Screenshot of my current BMR account status for people who think I'm bull****ting. It may have its downsides, but it's a service I still use despite those downsides, and I therefore proudly promote it as well.

        My account says cancelled as of Feb 25, but that's only because I cancel the recurring payment right away just in case I want to take a short break with BMR and forget to cancel it before it rebills.


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        • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
          Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

          I use the service and promote it. I don't promote anything I don't use. Are you saying that I'm not allowed to bash programs that I promote? It's pretty clear what BMR is. It doesn't pretend to be a ultra-high quality, value-providing network. It's meant to give users the ability to pump out unique, human-readable content (and those are the only requirements; it does not have to provide value and it never does) and they get a backlink in return. I don't think anyone thinks of it as anything else: it's the truth.

          Screenshot of my current BMR account status for people who think I'm bull****ting. It may have its downsides, but it's a service I still use despite those downsides, and I therefore proudly promote it as well.

          My account says cancelled as of Feb 25, but that's only because I cancel the recurring payment right away just in case I want to take a short break with BMR and forget to cancel it before it rebills.


          I dont see anywhere on your "Honest" affiliate page where you give the dowfalls of BMR.

          Look, we all promote products that are not perfect. Each product has specific purpose and not everyone is going to need that purpose or even like the way it is done.

          I get what you are doing and what you are saying, Im a pretty smart cookie. Just looks bad if an affiliate who just bought BMR off your affiliate link comes here and sees you bash the product.

          This is why affilliates get bad mouthed, considered scammers and why Google is so hard on us. 95% of affiliates do not provide honest value and just want to see their daliy earnings explode.

          I for one learned from one of the best affiliate out there and was tought early on to make honest reviews. I list pros and cons so the conusmer knows exaclty what they are getting. Probalby a good reason my refund rate for my entire affiliate business is less than 2%
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
            Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

            I dont see anywhere on your "Honest" affiliate page where you give the dowfalls of BMR.

            Look, we all promote products that are not perfect. Each product has specific purpose and not everyone is going to need that purpose or even like the way it is done.

            I get what you are doing and what you are saying, Im a pretty smart cookie. Just looks bad if an affiliate who just bought BMR off your affiliate link comes here and sees you bash the product.

            This is why affilliates get bad mouthed, considered scammers and why Google is so hard on us. 95% of affiliates do not provide honest value and just want to see their daliy earnings explode.

            I for one learned from one of the best affiliate out there and was tought early on to make honest reviews. I list pros and cons so the conusmer knows exaclty what they are getting. Probalby a good reason my refund rate for my entire affiliate business is less than 2%
            Excuse the late reply; I totally forgot about this thread.

            You know, you have a point. In all honesty, I wrote my review of BMR many months ago (July 2011) and haven't updated since, long before I started noticing the downsides. I only saw that some of my links were being deindexed recently, and never got around to updating my review. I went ahead and added that to my review- you're right, it's something people should know. I would want to know about it, anyway.

            I am totally with you regarding honest reviews. I try to be as absolutely honest as I can, and I make it a goal to only recommend products I truly use or think have value. For example, I don't use SeNukeX - it's a very high priced software with high commission, but I don't like it and don't think it's at all worth the money, so I don't promote it.

            I'm not trying to toot my own horn or be "holier than thou" but I find that this makes me feel better about what I do, and also believe it helps conversions.

            Seeing a blatant promotion from a person that clearly has never used the software leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I hope to never end up doing things like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      Anyone that thinks BMR posts provide value is fooling themselves. It's not meant to provide value, and it doesn't. What value is a 150 word post on "plumber san francisco" to anyone?
      How many words does it take YOU to tell someone where to find a San Francisco plumber?
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  • Profile picture of the author DistinctWords
    But, it can be quality content instead of just gibberish. I think BMR should require quality, informative posts and get away from the personal stories that ramble on and on about nothing just to get the keyword in there. A writer can create a personal story that is also informative but, from what I have seen, most do not. A post that explains when you should call a plumber provides better 'value' than a post telling a story about the time my toilet was overflowing so I had to call a plumber and thankfully he fixed the problem before my carpets got ruined blah blah blah. At least that's my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Originally Posted by DistinctWords View Post

      But, it can be quality content instead of just gibberish. I think BMR should require quality, informative posts and get away from the personal stories that ramble on and on about nothing just to get the keyword in there. A writer can create a personal story that is also informative but, from what I have seen, most do not. A post that explains when you should call a plumber provides better 'value' than a post telling a story about the time my toilet was overflowing so I had to call a plumber and thankfully he fixed the problem before my carpets got ruined blah blah blah. At least that's my opinion.

      Man what is up with you guys and this *quality crap. Whats the point? Last time I checked noone was trying to rank BMR posts, so the "quality" argument really doesn't stand here. Besides, how do you know I wouldn't be interested in reading about your toilet?
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      • Profile picture of the author DistinctWords
        Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

        Man what is up with you guys and this *quality crap. Whats the point? Last time I checked noone was trying to rank BMR posts, so the "quality" argument really doesn't stand here. Besides, how do you know I wouldn't be interested in reading about your toilet?
        :p A few months back I was trying to look something up for my daughter (I forget what it was, something off the wall for school) and I found a very interesting blog on the first page of the search results. So, even if it is a rare occurrence, these blogs "could" be found and read. I know, I know, not the point of what BMR is all about since its for backlinking. I'm just saying it *could be more. Sometimes I wonder what the search engine evaluators and Internet assessors think when they come across these articles. Personally, I'd rather them be rated as worthy.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by DistinctWords View Post

      But, it can be quality content instead of just gibberish. I think BMR should require quality, informative posts and get away from the personal stories that ramble on and on about nothing just to get the keyword in there. A writer can create a personal story that is also informative but, from what I have seen, most do not. A post that explains when you should call a plumber provides better 'value' than a post telling a story about the time my toilet was overflowing so I had to call a plumber and thankfully he fixed the problem before my carpets got ruined blah blah blah. At least that's my opinion.
      You are right. Some BMR posts have great information in them. I've seen short BMR articles that have had more good information in them than 1000 word articles on other websites. I've also seen really bad BMR posts full of ridiculous fluff and terrible grammar that would be completely useless for a reader.

      A skillful writer can pack a lot of useful information in a 150-175 word post. Earnest Hemingway could write a story in just 6 words. I just got my new issue of Reader's Digest in the mail today and they featured a bunch of great articles that were only 150 words each. They called them "Little Life Stories - 150 words each!" I read them and they were excellent! Every word mattered. No fluff at all.

      I imagine that BMR is going to be cracking down on poorly written content. I've noticed that they are taking extra time lately to queue the posts. I think that they're checking them more thoroughly.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
    Ezine Articles is not going anywhere and they are the same thing as BMR if you think about it. Millions of people posting crappy, but unique content to an overloaded site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
      Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

      Ezine Articles is not going anywhere and they are the same thing as BMR if you think about it. Millions of people posting crappy, but unique content to an overloaded site.
      You have a point but there is a very big difference in the eyes of Google. Ezine is not charging money in exchange for links. That is what Google is outwardly opposed to.
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    That would be so time consuming.
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  • Profile picture of the author sizzlemediauk
    BMR work I think because of its relevancy probably which is though not more than 30% when it comes posting in relevant sites but it posts the blogs in relevant category. Blogs/sites it posts content in is kind of link farms which is good but not that mush. However, I think it is still the content because of which the posts are getting value.
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  • Profile picture of the author alina75
    Hello,

    even if that is a rare occurrence those blog could be found and read easily...
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    I can only imagine the look on someones face if they came across one of my backlink articles lol

    Alina I wouldn't say "easily" unless you were using an in quotes search for text from the article, but being unique content you would have to have already read (thus know the location of) that specific article. Most of these posts won't rank for anything significant anyway. Maybe a few lucky long tails here and there for very low volume terms. But it's highly unlikely your 150 word BS post will rank for something like, i don't know, weight loss.

    p.s. If you know of another way to "easily" find these blogs (besides the "fatal footprint") please p.m. me the details. I have a mastermind group that would pay top dollar for that kind of information...

    p.p.s. This thread should just die now...
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I found one of my BMR posts on the first page of Google for a keyword I was using. I was trying to see what page my website was on when I saw a familiar title in the search results. It was a post that I'd written for one of the BMR blogs. The funny thing was that my site was still on page 3 for the keyword. So, BMR posts can definitely rank in Google if they're good enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author ElectronPlumber
    For a while BMR came out way on top of my Great Link Building Experiment. It beat out LinkAloha, 1WayLinks and UniqueArticleWizard. But after stopping link building for a few months, the UniqueArticleWizard and 1WayLinks site jumped above BMR. So it seems that BMR is great while actively building links but fades quicker than the others if you stop.

    Remember, Google can't possibly manually police over 8 BILLION indexed web pages. There are likely another 8 BILLION that they don't index. If a person could review 1 webpage every few minutes they could only look at a few hundred a day. If my math is right, to look at even 10% of the web pages only once each year would take over 15,000 people working manually. And it's constantly growing.

    So they don't play whack a mole with small players like BMR. At most BMR has a few thousand sites out there. Google wants to catch as much as they can in their algorithm and use a smaller team to manually check only the worst offending sites in a small number of categories (Porn, Gambling, Make Money Online, Weight Loss, etc).
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber View Post

      For a while BMR came out way on top of my Great Link Building Experiment. It beat out LinkAloha, 1WayLinks and UniqueArticleWizard. But after stopping link building for a few months, the UniqueArticleWizard and 1WayLinks site jumped above BMR. So it seems that BMR is great while actively building links but fades quicker than the others if you stop.

      Remember, Google can't possibly manually police over 8 BILLION indexed web pages. There are likely another 8 BILLION that they don't index. If a person could review 1 webpage every few minutes they could only look at a few hundred a day. If my math is right, to look at even 10% of the web pages only once each year would take over 15,000 people working manually. And it's constantly growing.

      So they don't play whack a mole with small players like BMR. At most BMR has a few thousand sites out there. Google wants to catch as much as they can in their algorithm and use a smaller team to manually check only the worst offending sites in a small number of categories (Porn, Gambling, Make Money Online, Weight Loss, etc).

      How is making money online and weight loss an offending site? In this day and age I'm sure a lot of people are looking to find ways to make multiple streams of income; whether it would be network marketing, owning a business, internet marketing (make money online), surveys online etc. And weight loss? Heck, that's like the number one factor in America. Everyone is trying to lose weight. A lot tend to fail after one month of their "New Years resolution," and yet they still keep on trying.:p
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    Because Google loves them. They only put out unique content that is easy to read and good grammar/punctuation.
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  • Profile picture of the author dukestravels1972
    hi. i have an unused account that seems to be wanted due to the closed account sign ups. . should i sell it or keep it? $50 offered is tempting...
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    A case is against them with google with all the proof that is all i can say .....avoid it asap...if your sites are found having BMR links they are toast ....
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      A case is against them with google with all the proof that is all i can say .....avoid it asap...if your sites are found having BMR links they are toast ....
      Oh really? Well tell why my keyword went from rank 6 to rank 2 two days ago? And that was STRICTLY JUST BMR?
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Oh really? Well tell why my keyword went from rank 6 to rank 2 two days ago? And that was STRICTLY JUST BMR?
        The guy have a personal issue with BMR. Seee one of his thread. His statement is not official.

        I use BMR and run a writing and submission service, so categorically I can state it works and possibility the best thing now.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dellco
          BMR this, BMR that......sigh.

          Every day there is a BMR thread here....

          Back when BMR was new and unheard of, it WAS working good. Then all these guys came out and started BLABBERING how good it was, and in such a short time it shot to the top and practically became the "default" blog network for Warrior Forum....lol. And in conjunction with that, I could see that the more popular the network got, the worse its effectiveness became.

          I can imagine how wealthy the owner must be now. It seems BMR users have all these problems now, whether they be real or imagined.....

          I'm pretty glad I unsubscribed before things got too crowded because I could see where things were headed back then.....
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    • Profile picture of the author DistinctWords
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      A case is against them with google with all the proof that is all i can say .....avoid it asap...if your sites are found having BMR links they are toast ....
      Proof of what? Because your website was disapproved by BMR for lack of content?? In your complaint to G did you make them aware of the fact that you tried to use BMR? You are just a disgruntled person with a vendetta; anyone can see right through you, including G.
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  • Profile picture of the author LifeIsGood
    I have a BMR account but have never used it, and so I can't attest one way or another as to article ranking success stories. Other than stumbling upon this thread, however, I can honestly say I've never heard anything but praise about the BMR network and its effectiveness from those using it.

    Truth be told, there are most likely hundreds if not thousands of 'organized' keyword-promoting blog networks out there of different sizes (operating in closed, private networks with minimal footprints) about which we may never hear.

    That's because they are effective, self-serving, well-guarded, and the members don't advertise them, or reveal them in public forums as they have too much to lose.

    It is only when these networks become well known that the sheer weight of their success (coupled with the ill wishes of those who despise their good fortune) pose a threat, and those who resent them seek to usher in their potential demise. (Those who are less successful (in their own minds) often react with resentment toward those who excel, rather than improve upon their own performance.) A once 'secret' society may therefore rise up from seem-ed obscurity to overnight fame and infamy. It's a phenomenon that never ceases to amaze.

    That said, it appears the organizers of BMR are mindful, wise stewards and protectors of their goose that lays the golden eggs. It appears they are pulling up their draw-bridge, strengthening their borders, and protecting their territory.

    Let us wish them continued success; we shall all benefit from it.

    "The pioneers get the arrows, but the settlers get the land." - Unknown

    Google doesn't seem to be 'going after' the News Media, WordPress, Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages, Digg, and countless other keyword 'network' opportunities; it appears they have an aversion to poor content, activity that is obviously gaming the system, and things that threaten the integrity of the Google experience. They, too, are protecting their territory.

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