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Google Dance Insights

by Dumple
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I have a few questions about the Google dance for experienced SEOers.

First a little information about my sites:
  • I have around 20 sites ranking well in Google
  • They are around 5-7 months old
  • Backlinked with UAW and BMR
  • Unique content, and semi-authority sites

Obviously I have experienced what is known as the "Google Dance" on many occasions. However, I notice that sites always dance together in clumps. There are 3-5 sites that all are synchronized each time a "dance" occurs. They fall together and they recover together. Has anyone else experienced this?

I lost ranking for around 7 sites today, all of them fell at the exact same time. They fell from the front page to the second. Not really a big leap, but still irritating.

These sites are 7 months old, and still doing this. I heard the Google Dance occurs for well up to a year. Is this true? Or does it never really stop occuring? I would be interested to hear an answer from someone who has sites over a year old.

I have also noticed that the sites which get punished are usually ones that I have been aggressively backlinking with BMR. I am not positive about this, but there seems to be a loose correlation at least.

If anyone else has similar experiences and can corroborate what I am saying, or have any other insights, I would love to hear from them.

Thanks guys. Love the community here, and am usually just a lurker.
#dance #google #insights
  • Profile picture of the author sumpreneur
    Google does updates all the time, so sometimes we think everything is a GOOGLE DANCE, when really our sites GOT HIT by an update.

    I did a test with BMR, I found out that if you are too aggressive with BMR your site might get penalized by panda.

    The reason: having 300-400 Posts ALL around 150words doesn't look like a natural link profile.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dumple
      Thanks for the reply.

      Ya, I posted this yesterday before I was aware of the Panda 3.3 update. Seems like I got hit by it.

      Time to alter my strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author sumpreneur
        Ok.

        Good luck Dumple, hope your site recovers.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeskCoder
      Originally Posted by XtremeWarrior View Post

      The reason: having 300-400 Posts ALL around 150words doesn't look like a natural link profile.
      That would be correct sir.

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      You got anymore info on your sites? Are they are linked to each other? Seems weird that you get more than 1 site "danced" at the same time ... but if they are follow the same backlink profile, then I guess that could happen.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dumple
        The sites are not directly linked to each other. They are on the same hosting account, adsense, and analytics though. I don't believe this matters.

        Backlinking Articles
        Well I am not using only BMR. Unique article wizard (UAW) is being used as well.

        With UAW I am targeting hundreds of long tail and related keywords, and linking to internal pages as well as the home page. I have these UAW articles being submitted very slowly (5 a day).

        Recent Drop in Rankings
        I believe that the drop in the last couple of days was a result of Panda 3.3. These ranks only dropped 5-6 places, so not too severe. Hopefully I can recover.

        Change in Rankings Over Last 4 Months
        Prior to this Panda 3.3 I have still had sites moving around together. It seems very strange.

        There are basically two groups of sites (around 3 sites in each group), I will call them A and B.

        What happened was the 3 sites from Group-A disappeared from the SERPS. This lasted for 1-2 weeks. All 3 were gone at the same time.

        Then after 1-2 weeks Group-A returned to their old positions. Again, all at the same time. Curiously, also at the same time, Group-B disappeared.

        After a couple weeks B came back, and A went down. This cycle repeated many times. The synchronicity is bizarre, and I do not know what to make of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author alihs707
    The reason to the change is Google Panda, i saw it on their blog. They recently had an update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Point Blank
    Diversity is key.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    Yes, I would say you've taken a hit from panda 3.3 just rolled out, dancing usually whipsaw's you around the serps more than that, where as you've taken an incremental step down, now in SEO more than ever, quality in your site, and quality in your links is critical to achieving and sustaining high rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author danb12
    This is not panda, its too late for that now, any sites ranking would of dropped a long time ago if it was panda.

    If your doing a lot of link building with the you are "dancing" with, then its really normal.

    One of my sites is 3 years old PR4, and I still experience the "Google Dance" when doing a lot of seo work.

    It will return to normal - don't know when, could be tomorrow, or in 2 weeks time, but you will go back their, and probably higher then you was.
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