Backlink Method's That Didn't Work For Me

by Goath
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Hi all,

I ****ed up two of my "test sites", but I learned some lessons I want to share with you.

First lesson:

Crappy link building doesn't work for you.

For website no. 1 I used Matt LaClear's drip feed service. I pay $125 per year. A cheap service, but in a moment you will know why..

My 3+ months old website ranked on page 4. After using this service, it got a page one ranking on the #7 for exactly 4 days. It earned me a total of $7 dollars.

Then, it disappeared. I can't find it in the first 1000+ results.. It earns me now $0 en it gets exactly ZERO visitors.

For website no. 2
I used Unique Article Wizard.

My website was on the 6th page. I used this service and my website was submitted to - in total - 700 article directories & blogs.

Nothing happened to my rankings. They didn't go down - they didn't go up!

For website no. 3 I used again Matt LaClear's service

I wanted to make sure if it was just "accident" or Matt LaClear's service.

I contacted the helpdesk worker to build links for website no. 3.

The website lasted 2 weeks without moving. Then, it suddenly disappeared. From on average 56 visitors and $5 dollars per day, to ZERO visitors and $0 a day.

My Conclusions


From my experience I can tell you that you shouldn't use services which build you links with bad spinned texts, from "bad neighbourhood sites", with almost no pagerank and links pointed to them..

I bolded BAD spinned texts, because Unique Article Wizards also use spinned texts, but they are somehow of better quality. However, they didn't improve my rankings. But I have to admit they also didn't hurt my rankings!

Instead of paying $47 per month or more, just build your own network of healthy websites. It will take you time, but it will pay off.

I know one thing for sure, if someone else is building links for you (or their service) the quality is mostly bad, because they don't give a **** about you & your rankings!
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  • Profile picture of the author PriceMaster
    Try to be honest in your approach. Use fully unique, properly written articles as compared to spun content.

    And also try making backlinks slowly but surely. They will mature over a longer period of time and you will know the backlinks you got were of high quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenwaldo
    Thanks for the info - I for one really appreciate you sharing your experiences with us. I've tried some similar services that use spinning poorly and found them equally unworthy.

    Another thing that has never worked for me, which should probably be obvious, is directory submissions. Just never seen a benefit from them until I've done something additional to the site. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong though.
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    • Profile picture of the author seolvl1
      is your website updated frequently?

      Unique articles and no dup content?

      I'm using Matt's service and it's gives me positive results when combined with other backlinking methods,


      Maybe your sites got penalized because you relied only on his drip feed service...
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by seolvl1 View Post

        I'm using Matt's service and it's gives me positive results when combined with other backlinking methods,
        If your running multiple services at the same time, how do you know which service (If any) are helping to rank your pages?

        I know a lot of SEO services will BS & say things like, you need to use other types of links with their links, which is a total load of BS. Links work or they don't.

        Note, I'm not picking on any one service, I would just like to know how you know which service actually ranked the page If multiple types of backlinks from multiple SEO services are running at the same time.

        Thanks,
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        • Profile picture of the author seolvl1
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          If your running multiple services at the same time, how do you know which service (If any) are helping to rank your pages?

          I know a lot of SEO services will BS & say things like, you need to use other types of links with their links, which is a total load of BS. Links work or they don't.

          Note, I'm not picking on any one service, I would just like to know how you know which service actually ranked the page If multiple types of backlinks from multiple SEO services are running at the same time.

          Thanks,
          well i use Matt's service for the blog network links,

          I do my comment backlinks and social bookmarks myself.

          no one is 100% on what google wants so as long as it works for me I'm good.
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  • Profile picture of the author rcritchett
    As a lot of us have been finding out/realizing over the past few years, low quality just isn't working anymore. Great illustration of that! Thanks a lot for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader82
    Build your own network of sites is the best way to go, although it takes time but it will be the best investment and will pay off in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Juvv2096
    Well I must say I sort of take offence to your attitude towards people who have services. I have a bunch of services I provide, and its up to the customer to decide if its right for their website.

    I also offer READABLE high quality spun articles that are hand written, for the exact problem you have had and are talking about.

    Even if your article is well spun, it wont matter if its on a low PR, garbage website.

    If you have articles on sites that have nice clean readable content, its much better for you dont you think?

    If you buy cheap products and links, what else can you expect but cheap quality? People point 5 thousand scrapebox links to their website and wonder why it doesnt rank or gets de indexed. (not saying this is you by the way).

    Quality over quantity, any day of the week.
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  • Profile picture of the author chetankm
    same thing happen to me i pay someone on freelancer.com for link building and my website is blacklisted by google after 15 day's.
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  • Profile picture of the author DynaPass
    Never pay for SEO services. That should be the first rule of SEO.

    It is too hard to tell who offers a good service or if you are utilizing the service properly.

    These posts are great IMO to help tell newer SEO's in training what not to do. Do not jump in, tread lightly.

    Personally I would spend all that money on articles if you cannot write them yourself and then focus on posting and syndicating them properly. If you need a community quickly rather than building your own you can utilize, hubpages, squidoo and even posterous. They offer PR, traffic and a contextual link.

    I would suggest building your own community site alongside the 3 i mentioned above.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Originally Posted by Goath View Post

    I know one thing for sure, if someone else is building links for you (or their service) the quality is mostly bad, because they don't give a **** about you & your rankings!
    While I enjoyed reading your post as it is completely true, I was disappointed to read your last paragraph.

    Personally I take a lot of pride and responsibility for all my clients websites and rankings. I take SEO seriously and love achieving results in areas where others can not, I am sure a lot of people like me care about their clients SEO too.
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  • Profile picture of the author bo4610
    Originally Posted by Goath View Post

    Hi all,

    I ****ed up two of my "test sites", but I learned some lessons I want to share with you.

    First lesson:

    Crappy link building doesn't work for you.

    For website no. 1 I used Matt LaClear's drip feed service. I pay $125 per year. A cheap service, but in a moment you will know why..

    My 3+ months old website ranked on page 4. After using this service, it got a page one ranking on the #7 for exactly 4 days. It earned me a total of $7 dollars.

    Then, it disappeared. I can't find it in the first 1000+ results.. It earns me now $0 en it gets exactly ZERO visitors.

    For website no. 2
    I used Unique Article Wizard.

    My website was on the 6th page. I used this service and my website was submitted to - in total - 700 article directories & blogs.

    Nothing happened to my rankings. They didn't go down - they didn't go up!

    For website no. 3 I used again Matt LaClear's service

    I wanted to make sure if it was just "accident" or Matt LaClear's service.

    I contacted the helpdesk worker to build links for website no. 3.

    The website lasted 2 weeks without moving. Then, it suddenly disappeared. From on average 56 visitors and $5 dollars per day, to ZERO visitors and $0 a day.

    My Conclusions


    From my experience I can tell you that you shouldn't use services which build you links with bad spinned texts, from "bad neighbourhood sites", with almost no pagerank and links pointed to them..

    I bolded BAD spinned texts, because Unique Article Wizards also use spinned texts, but they are somehow of better quality. However, they didn't improve my rankings. But I have to admit they also didn't hurt my rankings!

    Instead of paying $47 per month or more, just build your own network of healthy websites. It will take you time, but it will pay off.

    I know one thing for sure, if someone else is building links for you (or their service) the quality is mostly bad, because they don't give a **** about you & your rankings!
    Man in this life we get what we pay for. Cheap services means cheap work. Well thanks for the info. You be wtchful on your next venture then
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  • Hi Mate,

    Google takes websites out all the time and then
    brings them back to better positions.

    It's called the google dance. The worst thing
    you can do at this stage is stop building
    links to that site.

    I betcha they come back.

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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    Originally Posted by Goath View Post

    Hi all,

    I ****ed up two of my "test sites", but I learned some lessons I want to share with you.

    First lesson:

    Crappy link building doesn't work for you.

    For website no. 1 I used Matt LaClear's drip feed service. I pay $125 per year. A cheap service, but in a moment you will know why..

    My 3+ months old website ranked on page 4. After using this service, it got a page one ranking on the #7 for exactly 4 days. It earned me a total of $7 dollars.

    Then, it disappeared. I can't find it in the first 1000+ results.. It earns me now $0 en it gets exactly ZERO visitors.

    For website no. 2
    I used Unique Article Wizard.

    My website was on the 6th page. I used this service and my website was submitted to - in total - 700 article directories & blogs.

    Nothing happened to my rankings. They didn't go down - they didn't go up!

    For website no. 3 I used again Matt LaClear's service

    I wanted to make sure if it was just "accident" or Matt LaClear's service.

    I contacted the helpdesk worker to build links for website no. 3.

    The website lasted 2 weeks without moving. Then, it suddenly disappeared. From on average 56 visitors and $5 dollars per day, to ZERO visitors and $0 a day.

    My Conclusions


    From my experience I can tell you that you shouldn't use services which build you links with bad spinned texts, from "bad neighbourhood sites", with almost no pagerank and links pointed to them..

    I bolded BAD spinned texts, because Unique Article Wizards also use spinned texts, but they are somehow of better quality. However, they didn't improve my rankings. But I have to admit they also didn't hurt my rankings!

    Instead of paying $47 per month or more, just build your own network of healthy websites. It will take you time, but it will pay off.

    I know one thing for sure, if someone else is building links for you (or their service) the quality is mostly bad, because they don't give a **** about you & your rankings!
    I found one ticket from you in our system and it was for a German site we started linking to on 1/13 of this year. You claimed on your ticket that your site was:

    "It's at the moment on the 2nd page, 11th position.."

    That means you already had juice flowing to your site when you signed up with us. You're saying our links are so bad that they caused your previously existing links to be deindexed?

    That flies in the face of the countless page ones we see rolling in every day from our efforts.

    Best thing to do is to remain on the feed is to let the links soak. You'll see an improvement if you do.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by seolvl1 View Post

      I'm using Matt's service and it's gives me positive results when combined with other backlinking methods,
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      If your running multiple services at the same time, how do you know which service (If any) are helping to rank your pages?

      I know a lot of SEO services will BS & say things like, you need to use other types of links with their links, which is a total load of BS. Links work or they don't.

      Note, I'm not picking on any one service, I would just like to know how you know which service actually ranked the page If multiple types of backlinks from multiple SEO services are running at the same time.

      Thanks,
      I've often wondered how people come to these conclusions myself.

      "Well A works if I do B with it."

      "Did you ever try just doing B by itself?"

      "Nope."

      :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    You lack patience man, ever heard of Google dance? Ever heard people say "keep building links" when your sites seem to disappear? Maybe you should keep going instead of calling it a day
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  • Profile picture of the author Goath
    @ Etienne

    The Google Dance holds for websites that are fresh & new. One of the websites was a 3 month's old one and another almost a year (8 months)
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    That's why i always prefer Manual back linking for the first few months. believe me or not they always give me better result. After getting a descent result you can use some semi automated link building process.
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  • Profile picture of the author itchydog
    How many anchor text variations did you use in unique article wizard.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I think my favorite responses in threads like this are 'It's Google Dance.' Is this site still 'dancing' two months later or has the music ended?
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    I see people recommending to keep building links even when your website vanishes from the SERPS because it's just the Google Dance.

    Let's think about this for a minute...Google moves your website way back in the SERPS and traffic stops but the website still gets links...Is That Unnatural or What?

    Can you say FLAG?
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  • Profile picture of the author puvanahim
    well, I got some idea
    Thanks you very much
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