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14 years ago

Hmmm i have just gone into my dashboard and opened up about 20 articles that are supposed to be indexed (by clicking on the binoculars) and all of mine are showing the same thing -

no results can be found.

This really doesnt look good

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just gone through another 20 odd from ranging from 1 week to 2 months in age and not one is found in google

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JimSEO

14 years ago

Haven't used BMR since the beginning of February, but all of my posts have been deindexed too.

EDIT: No wait I found one that hasn't! Yessssss!

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GGpaul

14 years ago

My rankings haven't dropped but all of my BMR posts have been deindexed.

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GGpaul

14 years ago

Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

What do you guys think?

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Berkinb

14 years ago

Sorry mate but your point of view here is seriously flawed. We are not talking about BMR showing posts as not indexed inside the dashboard. When you make a search in quotes of any sentence you sent to BMR you will see that no results turn up. Means all of them are deindexed.

If, on the other hand, BMR did this themselves somehow (which is very, very, very unlikely), how is it different than posts getting deindexed? Sadly, seems the game is really over for BMR...

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

What do you guys think?

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GGpaul

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Berkinb

Sorry mate but your point of view here is seriously flawed. We are not talking about BMR showing posts as not indexed inside the dashboard. When you make a search in quotes of any sentence you sent to BMR you will see that no results turn up. Means all of them are deindexed.

If, on the other hand, BMR did this themselves somehow (which is very, very, very unlikely), how is it different than posts getting deindexed? Sadly, seems the game is really over for BMR...

First of all, it's not MY point of view. I said from a friend.

Second of all, he's talking about the ones in quotes where you type in Google.

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jimmyn 14 years ago

Link schemes - Webmaster Tools Help

"However, some webmasters engage in link exchange schemes and build partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites. This is in violation of Google's Webmaster Guidelines and can negatively impact your site's ranking in search results. Examples of link schemes can include:

Links intended to manipulate PageRank
Links to web spammers or bad neighborhoods on the web
Excessive reciprocal links or excessive link exchanging ("Link to me and I'll link to you.")
Buying or selling links that pass PageRank"

What does BMR stand for? It's not really surprising is it? Especially given what happened with other things such as ALN.
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lutherlars

14 years ago

I actually initiated the removal process of my links from BMR, after getting the dreaded email from G.

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

What do you guys think?

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cssitkt 14 years ago

We've been saying it for weeks now - Private Blog Networks like BMR are in trouble.

The problem is they are not 'Private' at all and the quality just isn't good enough to pass as natural links on natural blogs.
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mosthost 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lutherlars

I actually initiated the removal process of my links from BMR, after getting the dreaded email from G.

What is 'the removal process' you're speaking of?
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- bbncu 14 years ago
  
  Just a tip guys and making it better out of a bad thing....save the posts that you uploaded on BMR, they should be original content again and you can use them on article networks like ezine or buzzle or just add them as content to your site...
  
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  bbncu 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Chris Kent
  
  BMR posts aren't long enough to go on article directories...
  
  Package them up 3-4 posts that will make 450-600 word article...
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

What do you guys think?

Mr Paul, all ya do is a back link check and find many of them, also, you know your blog content, grab 2-3 lines of it, and in Google put "content" and search, if you can't find it, ya been ripped off buddy and you deserve it buying links, KARMA.

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JamesW

14 years ago

Well my rankings have absolutely tanked for numerous keywords, so it's either a penalty or a result of all these links suddenly disappearing, or both.

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SEOCreative

Banned 14 years ago

Will be cancelling my BMR subscription. All my posts have been deindexed

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markowe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

At last, google is doing something about people trying to game their search engine. Only took them like 4 years!

Ha, no, they are always trying to "do something", but I agree it's a bit surprising they hadn't targeted KNOWN services like BMR that were also well known to WORK.

Part of it is I think that they do not like to go manually looking for networks to hit (other than as warning shots, which this may well be), they prefer to improve their algorithms to the point where they can recognise "real" links and discount "gamed" links totally algorithmically, or with the minimum of human intervention. Otherwise it's just not scalable for them, it's like a game of Bash the Mole, new networks pop up too quickly to deal with.

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mbmehmet

14 years ago

I havr just checked my account and it appears its true. i am not going to panic though, it could be bmr have removed them to protect there network as they may feel google have caught on. Who knows.....either way i am kinda pissed as i have over 3000 posts plugged in. no drop in rankings yet. lets wait n see

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FamousOnYoutube

14 years ago

I think BMR is on the doghouse right now. Won't be surprised if they lose all their subscribers in the near future.

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markowe

14 years ago

Kind of makes me glad I wasn't using BMR. Mostly cos I am a cheapskate, but also I prefer to use under-the-radar services, or mix them up heavily. When something is as successful as BMR, well, you could say too much success is always going to backfire eventually in SEO.

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mbmehmet 14 years ago

Ok have been going through all posts since this morning, all 3000 of them and so far not one has shown in google. So far i am at 2400, not one, none at all is indexed. Is there any point in me going any further?lol Wow, to say i am pissed is an understatement, bmrs inbox must be full of furious webmasters. I got sneaking suspicion this will be another hit and run. Sad, very sad. just waiting for drop in rankings............bastar###
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n0tr3v3

14 years ago

I agree with you, but am not a cheapskate though...

Well not to dance in the face of the misfortune of others but Glad I am broke so have to do even thing my self.

Originally Posted by markowe

Kind of makes me glad I wasn't using BMR. Mostly cos I am a cheapskate, but also I prefer to use under-the-radar services, or mix them up heavily. When something is as successful as BMR, well, you could say too much success is always going to backfire eventually in SEO.

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Mantasmo

14 years ago

^^ you use cheap tactics, you lose. Simple as that. Everyone knew this day was going to come. I remember someone saying that ALN/BMR/ETC are going to get killed by summer. How true.

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Berkinb

14 years ago

Not true actually, ETC is still alive and kicking :p

Originally Posted by bnetwork

^^ you use cheap tactics, you lose. Simple as that. Everyone knew this day was going to come. I remember someone saying that ALN/BMR/ETC are going to get killed by summer. How true.

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todawg_not 14 years ago

I had my fair share if words with BMR when they started rejecting every
second post I made and I was a paying customer.

So I cancelled my membership in Feb and took my business elsewhere.

I'm glad I did now I see this type of shenanigans going on

Google is not silly

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Mantasmo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Berkinb

Not true actually, ETC is still alive and kicking :p

Lulz.

Ok on a more serious (??) note... wait 1-2 weeks and a ****load of "I lost all rankings" threads are going to be popping up here. So many backlinks wiped out, so many penalties to come.
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mbmehmet 14 years ago

True. But lets be honest, who doesnt. Is seo gaming the system in general whether it be paying for links, building them etc? I commend you for creating sites that are valuable to the searcher and offer good quality content that people link to.;-)

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lutherlars

14 years ago

Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by lutherlars

Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.

Thanks. That might be a good option for anyone who's rankings tanked. Opt out of there and see if you get lucky on the next update.

I checked my friends BMR account (he posted 900 times between October and December.) All wiped out. What a thorough destruction this really is.

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Tigrs84

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lutherlars

Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.

Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?

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JeanneLynn 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Tigrs84

Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?

If we delete our links right now, will it save our websites from being deindexed in the upcoming days or is it already too late?

Has anyone sent a support ticket to BMR to see what their response is?
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- IM Ash 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JeanneLynn
  
  If we delete our links right now, will it save our websites from being deindexed in the upcoming days or is it already too late?
  
  Google wouldn't deindex your site but they will penalize it as has been the case with many over the last month.
  
  DEindexing is the most drastic action that Google will take and for it to happen you going to have to be engaging in some really dodgy tactics.
  
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  RayW 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Eleva8
  
  they will penalize it as has been the case with many over the last month.
  
  Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
  
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  mosthost 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RayW
  
  Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
  
  IMHO, the damage would be done already. Sure, as a general rules all rats should probably flee the ship. However, if you're not exactly sure what will happen to your rankings, think twice.
  
  The might still be counting Yahoo/Bing for example.
  
  I think it's safe to say links from de-indexed domains won't HELP anyone in Google. They might even be poisoned. Worse, if all of your links are from 'poisoned de-indexed blogs' I'd probably pull them real fast and say a quick prayer to Mercury (aka Thoth, the God of written words and search engines)
  
  It might be enough to save you.
  
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  IM Ash 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RayW
  
  Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
  
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aa411853 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Tigrs84

Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?

How do I remove my links/posts from the BMR network?
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- retsek 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by aa411853
  
  How do I remove my links/posts from the BMR network?
  
  If I understand right, doing the Remove Links bit will remove all posts on the system including those that were already live?
  
  Surprising that you have that level of control on a per user basis.
  
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ionutpopa

14 years ago

I hope there won't be any penalties... It's very easy today to harm a competitor by throwing bad links at his site intentionally. There's no way to defend if this happens if Google decides to penalize the pages targeted be these bad links...

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IM Ash

14 years ago

I agree with Markowe about BMR been a victim of their own success. Just a few weeks ago every second thread (exageration) was about BMR. Very difficult for any network to stay under the radar when the biggest IM forum in the world is plasting their name everywhere.

I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.

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MikeFriedman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eleva8

I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.

People are going to ask which network.

If you're smart, you won't tell them.

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markowe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eleva8

I agree with Markowe about BMR been a victim of their own success. Just a few weeks ago every second thread (exageration) was about BMR. Very difficult for any network to stay under the radar when the biggest IM forum in the world is plasting their name everywhere.

I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.

I've haven't liked relying on a single network or backlinking method for some time, I found it dodgy that people were basing their SEO strategy on BMR alone, though I must admit, I didn't think they would get hammered this badly. It's not enough for a service just to "work", it's got to STAY "working".

For easy keywords I just mix up random services, simple as that, never use the same BL profile twice. I had a similar thing happen before - I had some rankings that were largely got using AMR and they all dipped, some of them disastrously, in the October Panda. Course, I can't know for sure it was the AMR links got devalued, but I ain't risking that happening again anyway.

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IM Ash

14 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

I've haven't liked relying on a single network or backlinking method for some time, I found it dodgy that people were basing their SEO strategy on BMR alone, though I must admit, I didn't think they would get hammered this badly. It's not enough for a service just to "work", it's got to STAY "working".

For easy keywords I just mix up random services, simple as that, never use the same BL profile twice. I had a similar thing happen before - I had some rankings that were largely got using AMR and they all dipped, some of them disastrously, in the October Panda. Course, I can't know for sure it was the AMR links got devalued, but I ain't risking that happening again anyway.

That's the thing people don't understand... diversity is key! It's easy to fall into the trap of sticking with what works but unfortunately that logic doesn't align with SEO... you need to stick with various proven methods not just one!

Strange thing is: before blog networks became all the rave I relied heavily on Web2.0 properties because they worked and what is strange about it is that this technique hasn't died... it is still as effective as it was a couple years ago.

The problem with software programs like AMR is that the directories don't last, many are deindexed, and this could be the reason for your loss in rankings. But as with most things SEO, we can only speculate.

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

People are going to ask which network.

If you're smart, you won't tell them.

Too late I already blurted about it before! Damn, now I lose 10 smart points! Down from rocket scientist to accountant... LOL

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RayW

14 years ago

Networks should have a limit of how many people can join. The less people join, the less it will be talked about, which will help keep it under the radar and out of Google's sight.

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markthedoc

14 years ago

I was a bit miffed when BMR closed the doors to new members the other week as I was a bout to sign up... I'm glad now!

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RayW

14 years ago

I'm interested in seeing how BMR will respond to this...

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Dellco

14 years ago

Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?

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DynoMutt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dellco

Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?

More than the fault of saturation, which left more tracks, is that the sites on their networks simply do not look like a website the casual web surfer comes across. This is why competitors can easily point them out, notify Google, and get them de-indexed.

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dennis09

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dellco

Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?

Same here, I cancelled my account about 2 weeks before they closed off new members. Too much publicity is never good for these types of networks.

What sucks even worse is that I have multiple partners that poured, literally, $10k+ on outsourcing bmr posts. All that time, effort and money just got flushed right down the drain. How sad

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pdrs

14 years ago

BOOM! There goes BMR. Sucks for them but I've been waiting for this for a few days now. All of the posts I've made are now de-indexed from what I can tell, I'm sure as hell not gonna spend the time going through to check each one

I've kept a fairly diverse link profile and I've used BMR sparingly but I still wonder if there is going to be penalties to come. I love my little niche site portfolio but I for one am DEFINITELY moving away from this model and into something far more sustainable.

You live, You learn!

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TKay1

14 years ago

Check their blog. They're going out of business...

I'm not allowed to post links, but they're closing down. All of their domains deindexed...

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TryBPO

14 years ago

Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

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Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.

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aa411853

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

BuildMyRank.com - Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It's Been a Great Run!!

Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.

Yes, we've always been honest. It's unethical to run a business otherwise, but until yesterday we hadn't experienced anything out of the norm.

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TryBPO

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Yes, we've always been honest. It's unethical to run a business otherwise, but until yesterday we hadn't experienced anything out of the norm.

Not stating you WEREN'T being honest at all. I'd seen all the rumors and had MOSTLY dismissed them as when I checked our posts through the BMR system, most were still there. When I checked a few hours ago, many were gone.

Must have been painful to wake up to this...I seriously feel for you guys. Painful post to put out as well. There are less honest marketers and people out there that would have tried to milk it. That would have been a really bad idea, I think...glad you guys stood up and said it was over.

You had tremendous success with BMR...I'm sure you'll move onto something else that does quite well too. Best of luck to you guys...

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Berkinb

14 years ago

Completely agree with this. I really feel for the guys at BMR, and hope that the whole experience will help them come up with something even better.

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Not stating you WEREN'T being honest at all. I'd seen all the rumors and had MOSTLY dismissed them as when I checked our posts through the BMR system, most were still there. When I checked a few hours ago, many were gone.

Must have been painful to wake up to this...I seriously feel for you guys. Painful post to put out as well. There are less honest marketers and people out there that would have tried to milk it. That would have been a really bad idea, I think...glad you guys stood up and said it was over.

You had tremendous success with BMR...I'm sure you'll move onto something else that does quite well too. Best of luck to you guys...

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Rukshan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Berkinb

Completely agree with this. I really feel for the guys at BMR, and hope that the whole experience will help them come up with something even better.

yes, this is not the end. They had a great plan. Next one will be a good one
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

BuildMyRank.com - Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It's Been a Great Run!!

Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.

I wish I had seen this post before I wrote 15 posts this morning. You would have thought they would have disabled the posting feature on the site.

So, Now what? Any suggestions?

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aa411853

14 years ago

Hey guys, sadly I have to report this is not a rumor. Just put up a blog post, but it appears that Google has wiped out a large portion of our network the last two days. We still have many sites left, but not nearly enough to support ongoing demand.

BuildMyRank.com – Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It’s Been a Great Run!!

Right now we're going to close up, and figure out our next steps, and let clearer heads prevail. Still think there's an opportunity to pivot, and turn BMR into a higher quality, more focused offering. But this cannot be done overnight for sure, and will take some time.

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radivoj

14 years ago

Google just keep deindexing blogs articles and keep to penalizing sites like crazy for unnatural link building...

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Ok guys really important questions (would love your opinions):

I have a high quality website: Custom Theme/Images (Thnx to my prof. photog gf), High quality (typo-free) original engaging material, over 100 pages.

I must admit I relied heavily on BMR for the past 6 months, and in a way I knew it would probably hurt me in the end, but analyzing the backlinks of the top 20 search results (my competition), I noticed they were doing very similar things so I figured if one goes down, we all go down.

Where I was hoping to beat them was with a good site, something many of them were choosing not to do.

I received the unnatural links in webmasters tools I believe 2 days ago. I've read a lot of responses on how to approach this.

One thread on the black hat forum said to not respond (ignore it, doing otherwise was a death-trap).

Others have said to remove all links as they said and respond for reconsideration.

My question to everyone is (in your opinions):

Should I start removing the 1000's of BMR posts and when I'm done immediately file for reconsideration, or should I remove them wait a few days and then file.

Or should I just go about my business, don't respond to the message, start guest posting to build natural real links and leave it be.

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Vusal

14 years ago

Hello,

So you got the message, and probably site is ranking as it used to,

It takes about 2 weeks to see the 'effect' of penalty,

Now that the network has been deindexed you can ask reconsideration, like "more than half of backlinks are deleted now" - something like this.

They'll reply within 3-4 business days,
I thought they'd reply after about a month or so (they've sent thousands of "unnatural links found" notification messages) but it was surprise to see their reply after 3 days.

Now that the links are removed from their index, ask for reconsideration.

Ignoring the message won't solve anything and the rankings will start falling after 2-4 weeks.

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Ok guys really important questions (would love your opinions):

I have a high quality website: Custom Theme/Images (Thnx to my prof. photog gf), High quality (typo-free) original engaging material, over 100 pages.

I must admit I relied heavily on BMR for the past 6 months, and in a way I knew it would probably hurt me in the end, but analyzing the backlinks of the top 20 search results (my competition), I noticed they were doing very similar things so I figured if one goes down, we all go down.

Where I was hoping to beat them was with a good site, something many of them were choosing not to do.

I received the unnatural links in webmasters tools I believe 2 days ago. I've read a lot of responses on how to approach this.

One thread on the black hat forum said to not respond (ignore it, doing otherwise was a death-trap).

Others have said to remove all links as they said and respond for reconsideration.

My question to everyone is (in your opinions):

Should I start removing the 1000's of BMR posts and when I'm done immediately file for reconsideration, or should I remove them wait a few days and then file.

Or should I just go about my business, don't respond to the message, start guest posting to build natural real links and leave it be.

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dadoc 14 years ago

ALN then BMR

These blog networks work, but once you are too public google will target you. Small private networks will probably be the way to go in the future...
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bmcgoff

14 years ago

I'd also like to know if removing the posts is a good idea. Will the content be seen as duplicate if it is re-purposed? It seems the best thing to do (to salvage all our money and time) is to combine posts and submit them to article directories, right?

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thomashoi

14 years ago

No wonder some of my sites went straight up to Google #1 and got some sales recently. Seems that my competitors are affected by BMR backlinks.

Sorry folks, it's about time to build your own high PR private networks solely for your own use.

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14 years ago

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

Unfortunately BMR was a victim of its own popularity.

These types of networks clearly still work and will still work going forward, everyone just needs to adjust.

I'm sure BMR will be back in some capacity in the not too distant future.

You think they'll be able to file thousands of successful reinclusion requests?

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RayW

14 years ago

BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.

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slix

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RayW

BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.

You can always take a part of the article you submitted to BMR, put it in quotes and copy/paste in google...So if I know this, those responsible for de-indexing BMR know as well.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RayW

BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.

Whether that feature was there or not, it was easy to find the sites. Since the articles were unique content, all you had to do was pick a paragraph from an article and search for it.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed

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janux 14 years ago

There's an option to remove the posts from the BMR network and the links to your sites.

Do you recommend removing the links from the BMR network. Is that a good idea?

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1byte

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed

Please stop gloating. I doubt if many people want to hear an "I told you so" at this moment...

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joetheseo

14 years ago

Wow... you mad bro?

People that get/got dominated in the SERPS (like you) whine and complain about networks because they suck at SEO.

My personal network is alive and kicking, and I have not seen any dramatic rank decreases yet... So looks like you will continue to get owned even after BMR is dead bro

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P.s. Next time you talk to Matt Cutts tell him I love him.

Originally Posted by cheekugames

First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed

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14 years ago

@janux - definitely with wasting any time ...

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janux 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - definitely with wasting any time ...

Will removing my links really help? I mean, google still knows about all those sites because they were indexed. Why would removing the links help?
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cheekugames

14 years ago

@1byte - "not many" i was alone ....

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14 years ago

because the links are of no worth and instead of supplementing what ever other links you have they become a liability .. thats why

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janux 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

because the links are of no worth and instead of supplementing what ever other links you have they become a liability .. thats why

So, if these sites have become deindexed, my own sites have been marked in a bad way as long as the links are still on them?

What kind of link building is better than BMR was?
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cheekugames

14 years ago

@janux - social media links are future according to google employees ...

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janux 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - social media links are future according to google employees ...

Are you talking about Facebook likes and twits?

These seem very easy to game.

In addition, how would you promote a small affiliate blog from now on? These aren't sites that are likely to get a lot of social media attention
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cheekugames

14 years ago

@janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...

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janux

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...

What social sites do you use other than FB, twitter, pinterest, and stumble?

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bille

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...

So self serving links on social media sites are somehow different than self-serving links on a blog network? I'm missing the nuance.

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tryinhere

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...

? Just so a blind mans see's clearly in the rain - instead of people using bmr or similar services they should now all turn to the manipulation of social media ? and as such those fiver gigs giving out xyz likes or yzz tweets should now be starting do a a roaring trade as social media becomes the new black.

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1byte

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...

So now we have to game the social media sites - not that many people are not already doing it. How long will that last until big G devalues/deindexes that spam...uhm...I mean posts?

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cheekugames

14 years ago

@janux- pm me your email i will send u a good list ...

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janux 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@janux- pm me your email i will send u a good list ...

I don't have enough posts to PM you. I'm sorry.
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Quixx

14 years ago

It's sad to see, but this was past due really. Google's algo has failed miserably to detect these types of networks in the past, and I'd bet it still does today. My guess is that this finally hit their radar, triggering some manual intervention.

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Architex

14 years ago

I have a question.

One of my sites I used BMR for some of the links. I got the notice on the 18th from G about notice of detected unnatural links. Do I go ahead and delete the links off BRM and do the reconsideration request? The funny thing is only one KW dropped a lot and only dropped from 17 to 30. And since has climbed back up to 27. I am not sure what to do. Thanks for any info.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Architex

I have a question.

One of my sites I used BMR for some of the links. I got the notice on the 18th from G about notice of detected unnatural links. Do I go ahead and delete the links off BRM and do the reconsideration request? The funny thing is only one KW dropped a lot and only dropped from 17 to 30. And since has climbed back up to 27. I am not sure what to do. Thanks for any info.

Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
google negatively

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JeanneLynn

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
google negatively

So you think that the links should be removed from BMR?

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cheekugames 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

So you think that the links should be removed from BMR?

If you can give yourself one good reason to keep them , you can keep them,its time to move on to better things, you are a prolific writer, you can find blogs related to niche you are in and start submitting content to them if they allow or add the same useful content to your site and make it a small information hub on the topic that the site is based on and see the authority you get , ofcourse it will take some time as it will be a white hat method ..
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
google negatively

I did not rely solely on BMR. I have over 10K Links and around 350 are from BMR. The question I have is, will my rankings drop in the coming weeks or is this it? I am proabby going to delete the BMR links just to be done with it. The other part is do I do a reconsideration request? From what I can tell if my rankings are done dropping I am OK with where I am. But if in the coming weeks they drop even more I do not know.

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bitriot

14 years ago

Hi everyone - I sincerely doubt that Cheekugames got BMR taken down since, if you haven't noticed, all public blog networks have gone down... Or that he has any sort of insider google information. This guy is a joke. Seriously.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bitriot

Hi everyone - I sincerely doubt that Cheekugames got BMR taken down since, if you haven't noticed, all public blog networks have gone down... Or that he has any sort of insider google information. This guy is a joke. Seriously.

I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....

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dp40oz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....

It was not unethical it was just not what Google wanted you to do. Huge difference there. By your logic playing the stock market hard and fast is unethical.

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bitriot

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....

No you haven't. You haven't achieved anything.

It just so happens that BMR closed down.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bitriot

No you haven't. You haven't achieved anything.

It just so happens that BMR closed down.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

Chill man chill , it seems you are still in a state of shock

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Chill man chill , it seems you are still in a state of shock

Not in shock at all. My business isn't built around BMR. It is just ridiculous to watch you prance around this thread like

A) you are responsible for BMR getting de-indexed and closing down

and

B) that you have any kind of inside information from google that would make YOU of all people, someone that others in this thread should look to for answers.

That's all.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bitriot

Not in shock at all. My business isn't built around BMR. It is just ridiculous to watch you prance around this thread like

A) you are responsible for BMR getting de-indexed and closing down

and

B) that you have any kind of inside information from google that would make YOU of all people, someone that others in this thread should look to for answers.

That's all.

In case you are new in this world, know this " some people are better connected then others " and just one more thing " some people you should never piss off " ha ha ha .....

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bitriot

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

In case you are new in this world, know this " some people are better connected then others " and just one more thing " some people you should never piss off " ha ha ha .....

I love the thinly veiled threats - your dedication to ethics knowns no bounds.

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CyberAlien 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bitriot

I love the thinly veiled threats - your dedication to ethics knowns no bounds.

I'm sure he wasn't talking about himself when he refers to there being certain people you shouldn't piss off lol - as he sits behind the computer screen wishing he had something else to do
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....

What about all the "unethical" WSO's and Warrior for Hire services you have bought here? Are they next on your radar?

You have tried to game the system as much as anyone. It's easy to follow your past posts and see that.

I am not defending BMR. I could care less that they are gone. I just think you are a hypocrite.

And of course, he won't reply to this post because that is what he does every time someone points out his hypocrisy.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Architex

I did not rely solely on BMR. I have over 10K Links and around 350 are from BMR. The question I have is, will my rankings drop in the coming weeks or is this it? I am proabby going to delete the BMR links just to be done with it. The other part is do I do a reconsideration request? From what I can tell if my rankings are done dropping I am OK with where I am. But if in the coming weeks they drop even more I do not know.

If you do not rely solely on BMR then you will not be affected very badly, the sites that will be hit most hard are the one's that had achieved high rankings with BMR links predominantly , if you used other links along with BMR you will still get affected but will have a chance to bounce back.... no point in sending reconsideration requests thousands will be doing so , know very well they took a short cut to higher serps, google will never accept them...

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AudioRoxor

14 years ago

Blah. I didn't have an insane amount of BMR links... the most I had on any one domain was 18 links... and to be honest... most of the backlink checking tools I've used hardly picks them up.

I do mix in guest blogs, social bookmarks, videos, and doc posting...

Hoping I don't get slammed... My traffic has been up considerably in the past 2 days.

I also don't use GA or GWT.

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AudioRoxor

Blah. I didn't have an insane amount of BMR links... the most I had on any one domain was 18 links... and to be honest... most of the backlink checking tools I've used hardly picks them up.

I do mix in guest blogs, social bookmarks, videos, and doc posting...

Hoping I don't get slammed... My traffic has been up considerably in the past 2 days.

I also don't use GA or GWT.

Sounds like your competitors were hit and you weren't. Congrats

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AudioRoxor 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

Sounds like your competitors were hit and you weren't. Congrats

Well, let's hope. I hate when people start throwing around claims like "all sites participating in blog networks will be de-indexed" ... so that makes me nervous.

I really don't think there will be a specific penalty, many legit businesses have hired what they thought were legitimate SEO companies (who used BMR, to whatever extent) to promote their site. I think it'd be wrong to penalize a business owner like that. But who knows...

Rather, they SHOULD suffer from lower rankings because of all the links and link juice that they would lose.
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JeanneLynn

14 years ago

How are the other blog networks holding up? Are Linkvana, ALN and High PR Society still doing well? Are they safe to use?

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mosthost 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

How are the other blog networks holding up? Are Linkvana, ALN and High PR Society still doing well? Are they safe to use?

ALN lost 5,000 domains in one day.
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NicheDad 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

How are the other blog networks holding up? Are Linkvana, ALN and High PR Society still doing well? Are they safe to use?

They were hit too.

ALN Users Beware - Matt Cutts Tweeted That it's on Google's Radar
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JeanneLynn

14 years ago

Just logged into my BMR account and it said:

Please make sure to cancel your subscriptions so that you are not re-billed. My Account->Unsubscribe

It looks like you have to unsubscribe or you may get charged for another month!

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Architex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

Just logged into my BMR account and it said:

Please make sure to cancel your subscriptions so that you are not re-billed. My Account->Unsubscribe

It looks like you have to unsubscribe or you may get charged for another month!

This is true. I got billed this morning.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Architex

This is true. I got billed this morning.

Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.

Any idea when the download feature is coming for all the posts? Some of us have received the unnatural links in webmaster tools, and for those of us that have legit websites that want to get back in googles good graces will most likely have to go the path of deleting all BMR posts and submitting a request to them.

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Architex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.

They just refunded me. Very quick, I was actually surprised it was this fast.

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rinor81 14 years ago

Just noticed I got a message 2 days ago on one of my aged domains I worked real hard on and built various links to it but from BMR as well....the message was of-course on webmaster tools about unnatural links detected....

So sad, what now? Will this site as well as other sites I've built hard over the years will fall down the serps and suffer?

Any ideas guys?

BMR was one of my techniques but a lot of links were built using this service to a lot of my sites....
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mrtrance

14 years ago

So what's the final word on deleting all the links or not from my BMR account? Should we at first try to download all the posts or something before doing this?

Any help?

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality websites that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.

So we can go ahead and delete all those, but still be able to have access to your posts though when the tool is available to download correct?

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mrtrance

So we can go ahead and delete all those, but still be able to have access to your posts though when the tool is available to download correct?

No I wouldn't delete them yet unless you want to risk losing all the material written. Thats why I'm asking about when the download feature is coming in my post above.

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mrtrance

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

No I wouldn't delete them yet unless you want to risk losing all the material written. Thats why I'm asking about when the download feature is coming in my post above.

Well too late for me then. I went ahead and did delete all of them. Hopefully we can still access the data though.

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Well too late for me then. I went ahead and did delete all of them. Hopefully we can still access the data though.

Well let it be a lesson for the future, not always wise to take that knee-jerk response. The Seo community is being rattled a little bit, and people are jumping ship and panicking.

Hopefully this will all be settled later down the line, but based on everything I'm reading it looks like deep pockets are going to win in the end as long as emphasis is put on backlinks.

People can easily buy guest posts on renowned blogs, and stick in googles good graces.

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mrtrance

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Well let it be a lesson for the future, not always wise to take that knee-jerk response. The Seo community is being rattled a little bit, and people are jumping ship and panicking.

Hopefully this will all be settled later down the line, but based on everything I'm reading it looks like deep pockets are going to win in the end as long as emphasis is put on backlinks.

People can easily buy guest posts on renowned blogs, and stick in googles good graces.

Well the deletion part is no big deal since I have backups of all my posts and since none are indexed anymore it is no use whether I deleted them or not.

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RatRaceWatch 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Well the deletion part is no big deal since I have backups of all my posts and since none are indexed anymore it is no use whether I deleted them or not.

Well thats good, I dunno if the posts will be useful in the future, but most of mine are legit and relate (original), so they may be used in some form later on.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.

Please give us a few days. Just trying to figure out how best to do this so that the server doesn't get knocked offline from everyone downloading content at the same time.

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mrtrance

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Please give us a few days. Just trying to figure out how best to do this so that the server doesn't get knocked offline from everyone downloading content at the same time.

I went ahead and deleted all my live links to all the domains I had in the system. I will still have access to my posts when it's my time to the downloads correct?

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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mrtrance

I went ahead and deleted all my live links to all the domains I had in the system. I will still have access to my posts when it's my time to the downloads correct?

Umm I think you just got rid of all your posts (won't be able to download now), hence it being deletion.

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mrtrance 14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Umm I think you just got rid of all your posts (won't be able to download now), hence it being deletion.

Well worst case scenario I have all my posts in excel format on my computer (I had my writer submit them that way so I could do the import feature) and I can go back to those in case I need them.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.

Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.

Thank you for your help.

As for the re-funds, don't worry guys I got mine back today.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.

As much as I don't like things like BRM, and I don't hide that at all, I consider it close to blackhat. I must say I am impressed that BMR are going down this path with the refunds when Google caught up with them. They are to be respected for this as individuals in my opinion

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ShellieJ 14 years ago

Hi everyone. As you can see, I am a new member. I am wondering if someone could do me a favor and post a link to one of the BMR blog sites, or send me a PM with a link, or link to a website from a similar service. I am trying to see what the quality of the blog articles is like.
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Kelvin12

14 years ago

Yea, such a shame. They were really good !! Just logged into my account and saw their message.
What's up with Google these days ??

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mrtrance

14 years ago

Well I went ahead and deleted all the posts to all the domains that I had in the system. BMR was just part of SEO method with only 40-50 posts per url. So hopefully it won't hit my sites as hard. I'm going to switch over to focusing on other link building methods to hopefully build it up again and not see a big drops.

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Mark806

14 years ago

So is it wise to delete all active posts??????

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14 years ago

I just a saw a result in Google search with a page from November 1988, I kid you not.

Google has really outdone themselves this time.

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aa411853

14 years ago

Guys, no worries if you deleted the posts already. We keep everything anyway in our app db, so it's more of a soft delete. You'll still be able to download these.

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mrtrance

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Guys, no worries if you deleted the posts already. We keep everything anyway in our app db, so it's more of a soft delete. You'll still be able to download these.

Ok good to hear that.

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aa411853

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, not tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...

Could someone please ban this moron??

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cheekugames 14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Could someone please ban this moron??

Now frauds like you who cheat people will decide who is to be banned ....
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CyberAlien 14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

Could someone please ban this moron??

Can someone please ban anyone that thinks they are so special that they get to use bold fonts for their entire post lol
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Paul Myers 14 years ago

You can get WF mods to delete the posts

A few of your posts were deleted because you're being abusive. Not because someone else didn't like the opinions behind them.

Try to make your points without threats and over the top insults.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, now tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...

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joetheseo

14 years ago

Dude you are clearly an newbie SEO that has no right speaking in a room of experienced members.

[Deleted] and start reading another course, maybe one day you'll get your first rank 1.

Whoopie bud... BMR is just ONE network. You act like it's the end of the world. There's 10 other ones I can think of just off the top of my head.

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, now tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...

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mrtrance

14 years ago

So anyone know what sort of drop we can expect from not having these BMR links now? I know it's though to give an answer to this, but if we only did like 40-50 posts per url will that impact us as much if each one had like 200+ posts and was the major portion of your backlinking?

Would it be a good idea to start implementing other things during this type to counteract this drop that will be seeing in a few weeks possibly?

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Hardik Jogi

14 years ago

UPDATE :

Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!

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JeanneLynn 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hardik Jogi

UPDATE :

Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!

Their entire network? I saw some mention on another board that High PR Society is mostly deindexed too, however, I don't know if it's true.

Sad.
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- leewii 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JeanneLynn
  
  Their entire network? I saw some mention on another board that High PR Society is mostly deindexed too, however, I don't know if it's true.
  
  Sad.
  
  that is sad so how the hell is one suppose to build links manually
  
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  Originally Posted by JeanneLynn
  
  Their entire network? I saw some mention on another board that High PR Society is mostly deindexed too, however, I don't know if it's true.
  
  Sad.
  
  Yeah about 90% domains are deindexed in blog blue print...high pr society is also deindexed but i don't know the exact percentage.
  
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36burrows 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hardik Jogi

UPDATE :

Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!

Figured it would happen with them as well.

They were a very trashy network, lots of spun garbage content and all their sites looked the exact same.
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leewii

14 years ago

hey guy

i just copy and pasted 500 bmr post on work pad, so i have been using bmr for exactly 30 days. i was ranking good on very good keywords, lets see what happens.

so the question i wana know if you any can help why hasn't uaw, linkvana and all the networks not down? or are they all down

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14 years ago

Quit feeding the trolls, folks.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

All those BMR supporters still around here , i had informed about this coming some time back , i have nothing against any user of BMR(you were simply cheated by BMR) but just feel sad if only you guys had taken down BMR links then(as i had suggested then) , your sites would have been in better position to avoid the fall in serps in the coming days , any ways, the fight against BMR will continue till the owner is put behind bar, for now atleast some better results and less manipulation ... google is not a bad company they responded to my requests and their employees communicated with me as well... this gives hope that in future also i will be able to take on the high and mighty with all you guys support....

Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable ....

thanks again...

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

All those BMR supporters still around here , i had informed about this coming some time back , i have nothing against any user of BMR(you were simply cheated by BMR) but just feel sad if only you guys had taken down BMR links then(as i had suggested then) , your sites would have been in better position to avoid the fall in serps in the coming days , any ways, the fight against BMR will continue till the owner is put behind bar, for now atleast some better results and less manipulation ... google is not a bad company they responded to my requests and their employees communicated with me as well... this gives hope that in future also i will be able to take on the high and mighty with all you guys support....

thanks again...

heh. The backlink profile on your site includes lots of spammy crap, including profile links, automated blog comments, etc. Did BMR reject your site or something? Is that what set you off?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable ....

Can somebody please find this clown a circus. Is he for real?

They are not shutting up shop and running away. They are offering a pro-rated refund and in legal terms have actually done nothing wrong.

The only rules they have broken are those of Google's.

It is the equivalent of your local shop closing down and going out of business and then you wanting to sue them for it because they misled you by offering a service.

People that have used BMR were paying for a monthly service, which they got at the time. Now that the service is no longer available they will not be charged for it.

Originally Posted by cheekugames

First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

Since you have these superpowers, could you put them to real use and solve world hunger.

Much appreciated.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable

LOL DUDE gtfo and get a life man, 1) you werent even a user why are bi*chn and moaning so much? 2) have you noticed that no BMR users are complaining about them 'shutting shop and running away'??

also, why would google need you to close BMR? what inside info could you possibly provide their engineers? lol this foo' cheekugames thinks hes deepthroat or something lol :p

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mosthost

14 years ago

I will miss BMR because I used to love researching through their blogs for all the great 150 words posts I could stomach.

Am I alone?

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cheekugames

14 years ago

@Paul Myers - your efforts to keep BMR look like a white lily and the best thing ever in SEO is quite shameful and unworthy of your reputation, you have just deleted one more of my posts where i just asked BMR as to why they lied to their users about closing new registrations,they said they were rebuilding their network while they were not, what did you find offensive in this, have some dignity man you are looking like a paid puppet of BMR here really ...

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

@Paul Myers - your efforts to keep BMR look like a white lily and the best thing ever in SEO is quite shameful and unworthy of your reputation, you have just deleted one more of my posts where i just asked BMR as to why they lied to their users about closing new registrations,they said they were rebuilding their network while they were not, what did you find offensive in this, have some dignity man you are looking like a paid puppet of BMR here really ...

Wow. You really are confused, aren't you?

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Dumkist

14 years ago

We'll this proves that back links are still king !...because if they did not matter to Google anymore,then they would not bother to go after these blog networks...long live the Back link

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dumkist

We'll this proves that back links are still king !...because if they did not matter to Google anymore,then they would not bother to go after these blog networks...long live the Back link

That does make me wonder...

Google appears to have spent some effort in taking down BMR and other networks. If backlinks are losing their importance in the ranking algorithms, as some are saying, then why bother with taking these networks down at all? Just let them lose their effectiveness over time as the power of backlinks diminish. Hmm...

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Mantasmo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 1byte

Google appears to have spent some effort in taking down BMR and other networks. If backlinks are losing their importance in the ranking algorithms, as some are saying, then why bother with taking these networks down at all? Just let them lose their effectiveness over time as the power of backlinks diminish. Hmm...

Of course backlinks aren't losing their importance. Although I believe that most types of backlinks will soon be irrelevant, as I think Google is trying to build a smarter algorithm to rank sites for these three factors alone:

1. Great content (I know right, not an easy thing to do).
2. Authority backlinks (blog links are some of the highest quality backlinks on the internet).
3. Social (they won't let this one go).

This is pretty evident so far - they have devalued most other link types, but they didn't want to devalue blog links. Blogs are good, because blogs are media. I believe that blogging is only going to become more popular as time goes, and so does Google. This is exactly why they bothered putting together a "task force" of sorts to take out the trash.

Great content (and lots of it) is really kicking in at the moment. I've always said in my posts - build easy to navigate, highly informative websites. If you're in any of the many info niches out there - you need a lot of high quality content on your sites to rank good. I have sites with **** load of content and merely 10 high quality backlinks ranking on page one for numerous keywords right now (5k+ exact US search terms) and I don't even use EMD domains.

.... build good sites, build niche blog networks to support those sites, make monies.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

I was busy before, and didn't want to spend the time right then giving this "cheekugames" twit a proper answer. It really won't make any difference to him, but it may serve as a useful example of the ludicrousness of the conspiracy theory mindset.

This dude has 14 posts still available on this topic at this point, in this thread alone. Going back to February 11, all 21 of his posts are blasting BMR. He's clearly got his cause on.

I deleted a couple of over the top insults, and asked him to make his points in a more civil way. Somehow, he managed to read that as defense of what most long-term members will know is a practice I dislike, and consider to be active deception: The manipulation of SERPs by artificial means.

The conspiracy mindset is apparent in the suggestion that I'm getting paid off by whoever owns BMR to support them here. He has to believe something like that, because admitting that I might have deleted his posts because he was being a jerk isn't something he can even consider.

The presence of all those other posts, or the comments from other people who consider these types of systems abusive, doesn't register. It's just ... [blank].

This is what obsession does to you, folks.

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14 years ago

For those of you that aren't familiar with cheekugames, here are some facts (instead of wild assertions).

cheekugames has constantly accused BMR of "unethical practices" and "malpractice".

Yet, despite repeated requests, he has never stated what these alleged malpractices are.

It's obvious that cheekugames thinks that by using BMR, you were gaming the system. Well, yes that's true to a degree, but the BIG rub is that cheekugames then uses just about every spammy backlinking method for his own website. That makes him a hypocrite of the highest order.

Additionally, his YouTube channel contains copyrighted material (please provide proof that you gained permission to post the movie clips and I'll retract that statement).

Cheekugames, if you want to be consistent with your campaign, then make sure you report your site to Google for unethical practices.

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Kevin McNally

14 years ago

Sad to see BMR closing, it was good while it lasted and actually had some decent content on some of the blogs as I picked up some great niche ideas from just checking my own posts.

Of course we should all be using various techniques to get our sites ranked...just a painful reminder !

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rinor81

14 years ago

Well...this is a sad day for me.

I have a keyword that was for almost a year #3 on Google, an aged domain.

After Panda 3.3 update it got down to #14 or so....

After BMR yesterday, I so the unnatural links message on webmaster tools for

this site and now this keyword is #600!

Think I'll still be able to get it back?

The sad thing is that I used all my sites on BMR, sites that made me money

and now they'll get destroyed on the SERPS....

Ideas?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by rinor81

Well...this is a sad day for me.

I have a keyword that was for almost a year #3 on Google, an aged domain.

After Panda 3.3 update it got down to #14 or so....

After BMR yesterday, I so the unnatural links message on webmaster tools for

this site and now this keyword is #600!

Think I'll still be able to get it back?

The sad thing is that I used all my sites on BMR, sites that made me money

and now they'll get destroyed on the SERPS....

Ideas?

Thanks guys...

Here you are quoting rankings in Google, feeling sad for your self, while delibratly going against Googles rules.
How about you go quote rankings on a Search Engine that allows fake bought back links.

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rinor81

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ducksauce

Here you are quoting rankings in Google, feeling sad for your self, while delibratly going against Googles rules.
How about you go quote rankings on a Search Engine that allows fake bought back links.

I'm not accusing anyone, yes I feel sorry for my sites and hard work...as if Google is any saint, give me a break.

People here started a thread, sharing their feelings, ideas and so on and you come here to what? Throw slat on injury?

Everyone here will rise again, I'll get back building links like I always have and all of them were white hat except BMR so don't come here and play a preacher. I take full responsibilities for my actions, all I did was sharing my hurt that after hard work now it's gone.

The lesson by the way is that in order to build a successful business, Google needs to be only part of your arsenal and you cannot rely on one source for traffic, never. So, back to the drawing board.

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JeanneLynn

14 years ago

Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.

Hey JeanneLynn, sorry my inbox is full (not a war member haha!), but yeah

. I woke up this morning and my friend told me that BMR is no longer available. One of the saddest news I've heard in a long time.

Nevertheless, we just got to stay positive and understand that this is a business. We'll come back up again, and better than before. It's just unfortunate for all the time that we've devoted into BMR. I remember when I got it a month ago, I would be at the office until 2 am on the weekends just posting on BMR. Thankfully my sites are still up, but I'm sure they will be caught soon. I better start making some backlinks from web 2.0 and some other way.

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rinor81

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.

Hey Jeanne Lynn,

Thank you...

What sad for me is that I am talking about sites I've worked hard for years building and I used not only BMR to promote it but other natural links over the years as well....but enough that Google caught you once building this way and he forgets the other link diversity you have over the years....what can we do?

I guess that's a lesson to us all, maybe sites which are more important for us just work hard and build links "naturally" if you know what I mean, white hat. Google is getting smarter each time and we always walk a thin line with these service which worked great for me by the way.....up until they get caught and my site is diminished.

You think it's still possible to get the keywords back from #600 with link building over time?

Thank you.

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OmarNegron

14 years ago

I had a feeling something like this would happen because em...it pretty much always does from my past experiences.

Then something new will come out and be the "hot" thing for a few months to a year..maybe longer.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by OmarNegron

I had a feeling something like this would happen because em...it pretty much always does from my past experiences.

Then something new will come out and be the "hot" thing for a few months to a year..maybe longer.

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wendyann

14 years ago

This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
Seems like a waste of time.
Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

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rinor81

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wendyann

This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
Seems like a waste of time.
Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

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Wendy

Maybe Google hasn't caught all sites yet....so I guess there's no harm trying to delete them.

I've asked for deletion, so far got a warning for Google on 2 sites but am afraid the others are on the way....unless Google hasn't caught them yet and they'll get deleted in time...who knows?

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IM Ash

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wendyann

This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
Seems like a waste of time.
Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

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Wendy

Not a silly question at all... there is no point deleting the posts now as Google already have the record of the OBLs on these deindexed sites but people are afraid now and many will receive a Google love letter telling them that they are engaging in artificial link building. Google will go on to tell them to remove all artificial links and file a reconsideration since many of these sites will also be penalized.

It is the fear factor that is at work now!

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cheekugames

14 years ago

Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

@Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....

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treezie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

@Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....

Regards

You are the biggest troll I've seen in awhile.

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cheekugames

14 years ago

Originally Posted by treezie

You are the biggest troll I've seen in awhile.

This is what they said when i decided to put an end to the malpractices of BMR about a month ago, do not underestimate a common man's determination to bring about a change and take on the crooks in society like unethical BMR.....

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acatmusic

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

This is what they said when i decided to put an end to the malpractices of BMR about a month ago, do not underestimate a common man's determination to bring about a change and take on the crooks in society like unethical BMR.....

Lol you are a 'common' man alright, messed up in the head too tho. Did you take your pills today brah? youre delusional

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Talen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cheekugames

Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

@Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....

Regards

It's amazing the length to which some people will lie on the internet to make themselves seem important. You didn't contact any lawyers and no lawyer told you there was a case. What specific "internet laws" did BMR break? I know you won't answer this question because you can't. Racist? neo nazi? you must either be a child or a very uneducated member of a third world country...or both. But I digress. I actually pity you, you started this whole tirade because BMR rejected your website from their network...and I have to say they did so for good reason.

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Adam Curry

14 years ago

I honestly think this Cheekugames guy is having you guys on lol

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

CheekyDude,

@Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....

You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

CheekyDude,You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.

Paul

On behalf of the internet peoples:

Thank You!

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acatmusic

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

CheekyDude,You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.

Paul

Thanks for bannin that foo and RIP BMR

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iprogress

14 years ago

I got hit a 4 weeks ago on one site and got the wmt's warning on another 2 yesterday. Ah well it was good while it lasted and we made a good amount of money from our rankings.

The question is is it best to delete the links and tell G they have been deleted and ask for reconsideration or just wait for them to drop naturally, the first site that got hit dropped from #2 to #26 on a competitive keyword. BMR wasn't the only link building we did but it was a good percentage (30% - 40%).

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rinor81

14 years ago

Originally Posted by iprogress

I got hit a 4 weeks ago on one site and got the wmt's warning on another 2 yesterday. Ah well it was good while it lasted and we made a good amount of money from our rankings.

The question is is it best to delete the links and tell G they have been deleted and ask for reconsideration or just wait for them to drop naturally, the first site that got hit dropped from #2 to #26 on a competitive keyword. BMR wasn't the only link building we did but it was a good percentage (30% - 40%).

Sam here.

Have a site which is up for 2.5-3 years, was on #3 for a long time, went down to #14 after panda 3.3 and with BMR now it's #600...

BMR was only one part of the link building process to it but I guess it was enough to "kill" it. Will file a re-consideration maybe in a few weeks when things cool off a little bit and keep building links again to it....see how it goes.

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14 years ago

To further elaborate, this will download all posts for every domain (whether the project/domain has since been deleted or archived).

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Kevin McNally 14 years ago

Originally Posted by aa411853

To further elaborate, this will download all posts for every domain (whether the project/domain has since been deleted or archived).

Thanks for doing that,much appreciated.
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RatRaceWatch

14 years ago

I have been absorbing a lot of information since yesterday from various blogs, forums, and other online communities on what is going on.

First a little background on what happened to me:

I had a website that was on page 1 for keywords that had 90,000 & 12,000+ searches a month along with 100's of long tail keywords.

Relying heavily on BMR was the easy approach and it did have its rewards, it helped my websites make money. I took that money and invested it back into my main site, more content, created an original design, (hell, I was even sick of other competitors using the same stock photography as me, so I had my photographer gf get two models to be on the new front of my website (photos I knew if I saw anywhere else would be getting a take down notice from me since we own the full rights).

I've been through a lot of ups and downs, adsense disabled, unnatural links notice, and now the deindexing of a huge backlink component of my websites.

So what does this all mean:

For those that are panicking and jumping off the ship (metaphorically), you really need to ask yourselves if you truly know how to handle failure.

Failure is a necessary evil, and it can be a very tough road to the top. As of now its unclear what googles true intentions are with these changes, here are the possible scenarios:

1. Google truly wants to clean up their search engine and produce results with white hat methods only (how this is going to be possible boggles my mind since now I hear people preaching about owning your own private network aka still gaming the system).

Or

2. Google wants to set itself up for people that truly want to traffic to go through adwords, and they want to make it much much harder for the poor man to have a fighting chance.

Think about it, if you have the budget, you can buy anything in the world, entry to a network, social media followers, a guest post on a well-known blog, the idea of the system never being gamed is a joke since quality content is subjective.

So if this is the case, (one of the theories) is that if you're just starting out your going to need a great amount of money to start to compete, buying into google, buying your guest posts, etc., which means people that made a good amount of money from gaming the system over the previous years won't have trouble adapting as well as wealthier people beginning to enter the game.

I also see a lot of people freaking out on what to do due to the webmasters notice of unnatural links. I've seen well-known bloggers say they are not going to respond to google at all and not remove any links, while others have said to remove links and contact google either taking full responsibility or blaming competitors or an SEO company you hired (whether you did or not).

THE SOLUTION:

So despite all the theories out there, I believe the best approach is requesting to remove the links from BMR (I just did), contacting google, make sure the links are almost gone first, being upfront about what you did, and watching what happens.

For those of us that have truly quality websites, we may face a penalty for awhile (I know it sucks), but I doubt google will keep us out for long.

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rinor81

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch

I have been absorbing a lot of information since yesterday from various blogs, forums, and other online communities on what is going on.

First a little background on what happened to me:

I had a website that was on page 1 for keywords that had 90,000 & 12,000+ searches a month along with 100's of long tail keywords.

Relying heavily on BMR was the easy approach and it did have its rewards, it helped my websites make money. I took that money and invested it back into my main site, more content, created an original design, (hell, I was even sick of other competitors using the same stock photography as me, so I had my photographer gf get two models to be on the new front of my website (photos I knew if I saw anywhere else would be getting a take down notice from me since we own the full rights).

I've been through a lot of ups and downs, adsense disabled, unnatural links notice, and now the deindexing of a huge backlink component of my websites.

So what does this all mean:

For those that are panicking and jumping off the ship (metaphorically), you really need to ask yourselves if you truly know how to handle failure.

Failure is a necessary evil, and it can be a very tough road to the top. As of now its unclear what googles true intentions are with these changes, here are the possible scenarios:

1. Google truly wants to clean up their search engine and produce results with white hat methods only (how this is going to be possible boggles my mind since now I hear people preaching about owning your own private network aka still gaming the system).

Or

2. Google wants to set itself up for people that truly want to traffic to go through adwords, and they want to make it much much harder for the poor man to have a fighting chance.

Think about it, if you have the budget, you can buy anything in the world, entry to a network, social media followers, a guest post on a well-known blog, the idea of the system never being gamed is a joke since quality content is subjective.

So if this is the case, (one of the theories) is that if you're just starting out your going to need a great amount of money to start to compete, buying into google, buying your guest posts, etc., which means people that made a good amount of money from gaming the system over the previous years won't have trouble adapting as well as wealthier people beginning to enter the game.

I also see a lot of people freaking out on what to do due to the webmasters notice of unnatural links. I've seen well-known bloggers say they are not going to respond to google at all and not remove any links, while others have said to remove links and contact google either taking full responsibility or blaming competitors or an SEO company you hired (whether you did or not).

THE SOLUTION:

So despite all the theories out there, I believe the best approach is requesting to remove the links from BMR (I just did), contacting google, make sure the links are almost gone first, being upfront about what you did, and watching what happens.

For those of us that have truly quality websites, we may face a penalty for awhile (I know it sucks), but I doubt google will keep us out for long.

Great post, thank for sharing!

I also asked from BMR today to remove my links...question is what will happen first? Will they remove the links or Google get to the site first and de-index it. Fingers crossed.

It's a shame really but I guess it's a lesson learnt, let's keep building links and with time hopefully restore our sites rankings and trust.

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kristeena 14 years ago

It is a good lesson for all of us.

We should never waste our time anymore on private network. It very easy for the Google to identify and deindex the private networks overnight as there is clear footprint all the way.

Soon all other bigger private networks will also get deindexed.

It is much safer to use the public blog networks & Web.2.0 links.
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RayW

14 years ago

You guys know that message that Google has sent to almost a million webmasters over the last couple of months? That is how Google tracked down BMR. That message was just a scare tactic, many people reported receiving it for sites that they hadn't even built backlinks to yet. Many people responded to that message by telling Google that they used BMR (or other blog networks) to build links, Google looked into their link profile and that is how they tracked down BMR sites. Pretty sneaky trick if you ask me...

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TheFBGuy

14 years ago

Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.

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CyberAlien 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheFBGuy

Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.

I'm really surprised it didn't happen sooner considering their size but I guess Google's techs were concentrating on more pressing matters.
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movemaker 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheFBGuy

Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.

I agree. That is what happens when the masses use one network...
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Krakenkin

14 years ago

I have been using BMR for 8 of my clients and have gotten good results from it. While I am sad about Uncle 'G's action on BMR's network, I wish all the folks at BMR well and will continue to support you all for newer initiatives in the future.

PS: I'm not sure about deleting the previously indexed posts simply because it's kinda tedious and I felt it's harmless to leave them there since G already knows those sites and warn all wm's out there lol.

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14 years ago

Guys, we've added another link on the dashboard (Delete All My Links) that you can use to request deletion on all links for every domain in your account (active, archived, deleted or whatever).

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movemaker

14 years ago

The key to all these Blog Networks being successful is keeping them small and tight. If they get to large and the masses use the same networks and backlinks on all their sites Google will recognize this and destroy it.

What we all have to understand that Google hates people like us that can do what we wish with their search engine. Matt Cutts even admitted it himself that their main goal is to get rid of people that "abuse" the search engine.

By the way Google just announced that they are going to start penalizing websites that are over optimized.

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josephseeley

14 years ago

The quality of BMR posts varied dramatically. They were usually rather short, but some were at least coherent English, others spun garbage.

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Alminc 14 years ago

I had thousands of BMR links...all gone. Thousands of dollars down the toilet. I'll never again do any SEO, only paid ads.
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- MarQueteer 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alminc
  
  I had thousands of BMR links...all gone. Thousands of dollars down the toilet. I'll never again do any SEO, only paid ads.
  
  Just don't put all your eggs in one basket and you are fine. SEO works perfectly if you diversify.
  
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