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Hello fellow Warriors,

After BMR's demise, what alternative network will you guys consider, if any? I join Linkvana as of yesterday, and it looks pretty good. Does anyone have any feedback/insight regarding Linkvana or other BMR alternatives such as ALN or Social Monkee?

Also, should i remove all links/posts from BMR linking to my site (like BMR offers)? I mean, Google pretty much did it for us, so what's the logic here? Also, BMR was my sole backlinks source. Other than the obvious hit (loss of backlinks), are we likely to get a slap from Google from being associated with BMR?
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  • Profile picture of the author PaiRADice
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  • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
    All private blog networks will go down with the sinking ship, just a matter of when.

    To clear things up BRM ALN and Social Monkee type places are not private blogs...everyone knows about them. The only ones not affected will be if you stumbled upon a very small company who does not advertise there network and get 10,000 new members a month.

    Funny enough you will never hear of these companies b/c if you belong to it like I do then we will not say who or where they are.

    Best thing to do is build your own social and private blog netork. This will take along time and lots of money but that is good....98% of the people here will go find a 9-5 job and quit setting up junk sites with fake reviews and making a quick buck or two.

    I used BMR a little (like i had a total of 80 post for 4 sites over 60 days). Once my rankings jumped up 80% I stopped. Others would love that and celebrate but I know better...that is not good and I knew it would get taken down, which it did.

    Back to the drawing board but dont worry, someone will figure out the next wave to screw Google. Once that gets caught, another will pop up......

    Good luck to you and your IM venture....it is going to be a tough wave for a lot of people out there, including me to a point....
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

      Best thing to do is build your own social and private blog netork. This will take along time and lots of money but that is good........
      I see a few people recommending this but i do not buy it ?

      What happens when people build a site ? so now the new rule is OK when you build a site you now also need to build a whole big support network behind it to raise it in the ranks

      ? How in earth is that natural, in many ways it is no better or worse than what has just been shut down.

      All your really saying now is do what we know is not allowed but now you really need to push it under the carpet and build a whole secret op network to do the same as before.

      Mums the word type agreements all over the web now, or now does the box n dice come with never worry about building one site. but build multiple sites if you want to go on line ?

      Honestly what a load of cobblers this whole sorry mess of turd pile rubbish is turning into, as soon as one method of gaming the system goes down another system is born from the ashes, the Phoenix did not even rise this fast.

      I can see the $17 wso now, build your own $2 crappy network and beat giggle at it's own game.

      Over it.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    I'm glad its getting tougher and more costly. I've positioned my self to compete in this environment. In that sense, it might even be easier for me!

    Bmr was too easy. I never trusted it.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
    They penalized bc they were low quality and paid. If u build your own that is 100% legit and not considered paid links.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

      They penalized bc they were low quality and paid. If u build your own that is 100% legit and not considered paid links.
      OK I understand, you can manipulate the links / serps just so long as your do not PAY for them, that makes sense. Lets just build huge private networks, and then we can build networks to those networks with even more networks to those sites.

      (in fact this whole process can be paid for as we can outsource web design building, content, updates / everything really - just realign your previous budget that was spent on this new craze, trust me the yo yo and the ding bat were never this popular on launch)

      $5 gigs - Build your Mastermind Network system Today.
      Warrior gigs - add a new hub to your network - $10 special
      $17 - Build giggle proof networks, watch over my shoulder

      How many people are going to buy into this crap. anyways - Shh, mums the word I wont tell giggle if you don't.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dellco
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        OK I understand, you can manipulate the links / serps just so long as your do not PAY for them, that makes sense. Lets just build huge private networks, and then we can build networks to those networks with even more networks to those sites.

        (in fact this whole process can be paid for as we can outsource web design building, content, updates / everything really - just realign your previous budget that was spent on this new craze, trust me the yo yo and the ding bat were never this popular on launch)

        $5 gigs - Build your Mastermind Network system Today.
        Warrior gigs - add a new hub to your network - $10 special
        $17 - Build giggle proof networks, watch over my shoulder

        How many people are going to buy into this crap. anyways - Shh, mums the word I wont tell giggle if you don't.
        Hahaha Seriously funny, dude.
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  • Profile picture of the author CrackerJack
    Thanks you guys.

    My plan is to start building my own blog network slowly, but "supplement" it meanwhile with a BMR-like service. So i know its just a matter of time and all, but will Linkvana produce the same effect BMR did, more or less?

    What about "Also, should i remove all links/posts from BMR linking to my site (like BMR offers)? I mean, Google pretty much did it for us, so what's the logic here? Also, BMR was my sole backlinks source. Other than the obvious hit (loss of backlinks), are we likely to get a slap from Google from being associated with BMR?"

    Can anyone shed some light?
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  • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
    Building your own little network does not have to cost a penny. Blogger and Wordpress are fantastic platforms for doing this, maybe not Blogger as G owns them hahaha. Hosting is free, templates are free, all etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author dadamson
      Originally Posted by PaiRADice View Post

      Building your own network for backlinking does not make any sense, because it will all be from same IP and same proxies!
      No it won't

      The correct way to build your own network is to buy SEO hosting (or unique C-class IP hosting)

      You will also need to build, out-bound link, and post to each blog differently (different content, different links, different times).

      Don't leave any footprint.

      Also great to throw in some posts which have no links in them.

      This is the best way to go for backlinking, services such as linkvana are substandard compared to the potential of owning your very own controlled network of blogs.

      Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author footfoot
    seo hosting surely has a google bullseye on it too.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    I think Postrunner's model is probably the best. User submitted blogs you can choose between, with user set requirements, with each user moderating the content that goes on their blog. There's only as much footprint as you want to make in such a system, and it's essentially just a streamlined guest posting system (and becoming much moreso in the near future).
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Originally Posted by josephseeley View Post

      I think Postrunner's model is probably the best. User submitted blogs you can choose between, with user set requirements, with each user moderating the content that goes on their blog. There's only as much footprint as you want to make in such a system, and it's essentially just a streamlined guest posting system (and becoming much moreso in the near future).
      There is no place to sign up, let alone contact the people behind them.
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  • Profile picture of the author vanished
    I`m using Linkauthority as a BMR alternative. High quality network. PR2-5 sites. 100% unique content, lighting fast article approving, excellent customer support.

    What I like the most is they do not reveal any URL`s where the article is posted which makes it highly secure. Also the blogs are hosted by different people which makes it really hard for Google to catch them up.

    It`s a FREE network if you add your own PR2+ blog. Also you can purchase daily quota.

    I have used Linkauthority on my own sites as well as my clients and so far I have had excellent results!

    Check my signature!
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    • Profile picture of the author dadamson
      Originally Posted by vanished View Post

      I`m using Linkauthority as a BMR alternative. High quality network. PR2-5 sites. 100% unique content, lighting fast article approving, excellent customer support.

      What I like the most is they do not reveal any URL`s where the article is posted which makes it highly secure. Also the blogs are hosted by different people which makes it really hard for Google to catch them up.

      It`s a FREE network if you add your own PR2+ blog. Also you can purchase daily quota.

      I have used Linkauthority on my own sites as well as my clients and so far I have had excellent results!

      Check my signature!
      Just be wary about any network you invest your time or money into. As all the poor customers from BMR who have invested hours in writing and/or $hundreds or $thousands in outsourcing you can see that all your work can literally disappear (get de-indexed) in a matter of hours, leaving you scrambling at the bottom of Google again.

      Also the service seems secure (more secure than BMR anyway!) but it is easy enough for anyone (including a Google rep) to create a dummy site and run it through the service for a few months and then reverse lookup all the inbound links.

      My advice would be to diversify your links as much as possible. You don't want to lose all your rankings and investment in LinkAuthority when it goes under as Google cracks down.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Just wondering... If you are using a public network, and it is working well for you, why in the world would you talk about it on a public forum, especially after what has happened in recent weeks? Aren't you potentially sabotaging your own efforts?
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    • Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Just wondering... If you are using a public network, and it is working well for you, why in the world would you talk about it on a public forum, especially after what has happened in recent weeks? Aren't you potentially sabotaging your own efforts?
      Very very good point Mike!

      We just launched Blog Syndicator and have completely changed our philosophy and approach due to what has happened in the last week. We are fortunate in that we hadn't gone too far down that road yet.

      I believe we have a novel approach that will get announced later today. It will be a lot more work, but worth it in the long run. And I do believe it will be in harmony with Google's spirit.

      What is that spirit? Content driven sites!! How do we insure that the sites don't get deindexed over time for leaving that footprint?

      Watch my WSO Update later today. Yeah ok, this post is shameless promotion. On the other hand it is relevant.

      So think about it. What is the footprint that all these networks have in common? So why not change the footprint to one that Google approves of?

      It's easy enough really. Labor intensive? Somewhat, but with the tools available not overly so.

      Here's a hint. The footprint in actuality is that that vast majority of posts are of a very specific type. And contain a couple of specific types of outbound links. So why not make those types of posts the minority?

      A site can obviously have many purposes. Most people can identify the main purpose of a site by simply looking at a sample of the posts. It seems to me that what we are seeing here is the complete deindexing of article directory sites that claimed to be something else.

      More soon. May start my own thread on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Carlin
    I would be worried about SEO hosting. They can be infiltrated the same way as the blog networks themselves were.

    Google can reverse IP check known blog-network sites, and see what other domains are on that IP. Many hosts (not just "SEO hosts") whore out IPs to 100+ sites and hosting accounts. This is because, if you didn't know, all IPv4 IP addresses have been allocated. There's no such thing as an IP that has not been allocated before. They are in short supply until IPv6 is widely supported.

    If everyone is using that "SEO hosting" IP for the same reason (cheap hosting for blog networks), and Google does a reverse look up on one bad networked site, all of the sites on that IP can be under scrutiny.

    The bottom line is, don't use SEO hosting. Many of them have already been affected by the Google witch hunt. Hosting blog networks sites across "normal" hosts maybe costs an extra $1-2 per month per site, but if a domain costs $10 to register, then you're already saving that extra money by not having the domain deindexed and becoming useless.
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    • Profile picture of the author shamima1261
      I worked with linkvana and it works fine
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