BMR GONE-is it a blessing?

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Now that BMR and all these other blog networks are pretty much destroyed, is it a good thing for those of us that do not solely rely on them?

Between yesterday and today, I have had major rankings jumps for some keywords and multiple URLs. The first keyword I noticed has 27,000 exact searches, jumped from ranking 9 to 3. I have noticed an increase in about half a dozen urls and my adsense earnings has doubled in the last two days.

My guess is that alot of my competitors lost their rankings from relying too heavily on these networks. I hate to see fellow warriors get tanked but I am glad I dodged the bullet this time. Anyone else seeing an increase in rankings?
#blessing #bmr #goneis
  • Profile picture of the author SEOChemist
    I have avoided most of the networks that got hit for a while now, but I only thought of the upside when I read this post. Might have to take a look at my stats!
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  • Profile picture of the author tebor79
    My traffic has nearly doubled as all the spammers with poor sites are loosing ranking. I'm elated.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by tebor79 View Post

      My traffic has nearly doubled as all the spammers with poor sites are loosing ranking. I'm elated.
      I've been waiting to see someone start a thread about that! I bet it's actually benefiting a ton of people!
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  • Profile picture of the author papamo44
    "If you having blog problems I feel bad for you son.
    I got 99 problems but a niche ain't 1"

    Love it.
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  • Profile picture of the author papamo44
    High PR blog networks are great. It almost feels like cheating it is so easy to rank with them. But it all has to be part of balanced approach.
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    • Originally Posted by papamo44 View Post

      High PR blog networks are great. It almost feels like cheating it is so easy to rank with them. But it all has to be part of balanced approach.
      Yea I was a big advocate of BMR. I found it amazingly easy to rank well using them, but I'm already looking at an alternative (not a blog network this time though)
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt281
        I hadn't even thought of that. Maybe that's why all my rankings just jumped )
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  • Profile picture of the author Valera
    I think this is a massive blessing for those that DON'T rely on such public networks as ALN and BMR.

    They leave a huge footprint due to lax rules by the network owners and operators.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Too early to celebrate. Google is rolling out more major changes in coming weeks. I'm also seeing record traffic but also have sites go down. The benefits of a lot of sites. Not jumping up and down...yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jool
    Sad that they're gone now. Google is watching us and pushing us to right direction. Somewhat a blessing for all of us.
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    • Profile picture of the author n_touch
      Originally Posted by Jool View Post

      Sad that they're gone now. Google is watching us and pushing us to right direction. Somewhat a blessing for all of us.
      Not so sure what you mean by the right direction. If you are saying that the right direction is what Google says it is, then you are correct. Just as with any type of SEO strategies you have those that are going to use things such as BMR, ALN, and such as a tool and that is it. Others though will abuse that tool. What Google is pushing us in the direction that they want. Whether that is right or not, we will not know until it all the dust settles and we get a good idea of which way that is.
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  • Profile picture of the author gtk29
    I have not noticed any activity yet. I hope this time they do not hit so hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author vipinlalla
    Its always better to go whitehat and manual way, atleast we will remain future proof
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  • Profile picture of the author MYS
    just the like any thing in this world good and bad will prevail. So they will come back with some thing new, yes for now - It is OK. Just take this small opportunity to build your site , Do not sit with it . Work Harder...
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  • Profile picture of the author rodanglee
    ok.. what do you consider whitehat in the first place? when I come to think about it, all SEO is black hat!! creating any type of links are used to manipulate search engines whether its a web 2.0, buying links, blogs, forums, etc.

    In fact, white hat means doing nothing but ONLY super-duper content and waiting people to link to you..

    So stop saying you're doing white hat... u just ain't caught yet, and when you do, its now black hat.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by rodanglee View Post

      ok.. what do you consider whitehat in the first place? when I come to think about it, all SEO is black hat!!
      Is it so ? ALL SEO IS BLACK HAT ?

      Sh*t why my Coach hide this from me :rolleyes:!!! i wasted my 3 years in learning and experimenting with it :'(
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  • Profile picture of the author Lurchy
    I' used ALN for most of my sites and though they have dropped, I don't feel bad about using them. My clients pay for results and using a network is an ends to a mean as well as any other form of SEO. I agree with rodanglee that there is very little that is pure white hat, most everything is at the best some form of gray hat.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlhenson
    Possibly. Some will definitely benefit from its shutting down.
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    Come on now, were you REALLY surprised?
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  • Profile picture of the author gid86er
    WOoooooooooooooooo...i just wanted to start learning about them BMR and using it... and they are gone...!
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  • Profile picture of the author xtrapunch
    A 100% 'white hat' approach would be to keep adding content and focus only on on-page SEO. If you follow this rule, you might not rank at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
      Originally Posted by xtrapunch View Post

      A 100% 'white hat' approach would be to keep adding content and focus only on on-page SEO. If you follow this rule, you might not rank at all.
      Until all the black-hatters get slapped, and your site rises to the top because it's the only one for that keyword without a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fixers
    Guess it is both a blessing and a lesson. For those who used it as their main link building it is a lesson to make sure your link profile is as diverse as possible (if you had done this then you will see a negligable effect of the deindexing). For SEO companies using them, shame on you :p

    For those who did not really use it much then it probably will be a bonus for those sites dropping around them.
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    • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
      Originally Posted by Fixers View Post

      Guess it is both a blessing and a lesson. For those who used it as their main link building it is a lesson to make sure your link profile is as diverse as possible (if you had done this then you will see a negligable effect of the deindexing). For SEO companies using them, shame on you :p

      For those who did not really use it much then it probably will be a bonus for those sites dropping around them.
      I was really surprised to learn that people took on clients for SEO services and relied primarily, or solely, on BMR--a shortcut. I can only imagine what excuses they will be giving their clients
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by DynoMutt View Post

        I was really surprised to learn that people took on clients for SEO services and relied primarily, or solely, on BMR--a shortcut. I can only imagine what excuses they will be giving their clients
        You mean 'ex-clients.'
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        • Profile picture of the author AnythingMarketing
          Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

          You mean 'ex-clients.'
          Lol, yes but then again anybody relying solely on one method would definitely be losing their clients eventually anyway.

          I have a friend in Orlando that does a great job for local businesses primarily using Social Media. I would say he has one of the most balanced approaches I've seen. Pretty labor intensive as he doesn't outsource at all. But again, even what he does is considered Black Hat by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnythingMarketing
    A few points.

    1. The deindexing of blog networks has hit a few of the leading ones, but not all and not completely. No doubt people will figure out a way to adjust to the new update and benefit from this again. (indeed I'm already doing some of that with my own network.

    2. Yes, some will benefit from this almost by definition as what they are using is still in place, and others will benefit from a future Google Slap of something you may be using.

    3. I was at a SEO seminar with Tor Black and he was very quick (and frequent) to remind us that by Google's definition ANYTHING we do off of our own sites is Black Hat as it is an effort to manipulate their rankings. Google would like for their results to be the end result of what happens naturally online as people other than site owners and professional SEO folks bookmark, comment and interact on social sites about other people's sites. Of course they don't think that about their own stuff as they manipulate things to their benefit constantly. But you have to look at Google like Facebook. It's their ballgame so we either play by their (ever changing) rules, or go find a new game.
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  • Profile picture of the author rodanglee
    No one benefits here... We are brought face to face with the fact that we are quite powerless on the whims of Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author interrev
    I am honestly surprised that it took this long for Google to de-index these sites. I mean, how tough would it be for Google to open an account on any of these networks, post their own articles, and know exactly which sites participate in the networks?
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by interrev View Post

      I am honestly surprised that it took this long for Google to de-index these sites. I mean, how tough would it be for Google to open an account on any of these networks, post their own articles, and know exactly which sites participate in the networks?
      Loooool are you kidding ? Do you think Google has followed this pattern ? Then they may have posted thousands of unique articles to get all the domains and all those articles will be outsourced at WF !!! lol :p
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by interrev View Post

      I am honestly surprised that it took this long for Google to de-index these sites. I mean, how tough would it be for Google to open an account on any of these networks, post their own articles, and know exactly which sites participate in the networks?
      With their knowledge of the link graph of the web it's probably easier than that.

      Matt Cutts types E=MC2 - SPAM and it's all gone
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