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Hello I've been trolling these forums for a couple of weeks now as I've been looking into online money sources such as clickbank, adsense and seo. I recently purchased a wordpress site from someone advertising on the forum for 33$. I wasn't thrilled with the niche but he got it up and running with 4 500 word articles and it's been about a week and only my main keyword string (which is the exact name of my site) is ranking and only on google and it's been going up and down between PR 80-90.

I have been using Drippable.com for my backlinks to throw to the site and to date I have about 4000 backlinks on the site but I've only had 14 page views in like a week. Is there something I'm not doing right, is there other things I could be doing to help my SERP? The guy said the sites usually rank PR10 and higher but i don't know how long that usually takes.

I guess my questions are: is drippable.com a good backlink site? if not who do you use? Did I overpay for the website? How long does it take for my site's SERP to start getting the boost the guy who built it said it would?

Also any tips for a newcomer would be extremely helpful thank you so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Hi - I am far from an expert but I do have a few suggestions for you.

    First - you are using some confusing terminology. PR stands for page rank which is sort of an overall quality level of the site. It goes from PR 0 to 9. This is NOT directly related to were you show up in a Google search. For now do not worry about your site's PR but focus on getting your keyeords to rank in Google.
    Make sure your site is SEO optimized. I use the free Plugin SEO vibe to help with this. All-in-one-SEO is another popular plugin to help your on page SEO.
    For backlinks - I am not familiar with drippable.com It makes sense to have various types of backlinks form many different sources. If you have 4k back links I would guess that a lot of them are of low quality (low page rank) and Google does not view them as real valuable. You want to get high PR do-follow links from various souces, ideally the links use your keywords or closely related words at the text that is linked.
    I hope this helps
    One other piece of advise is to beware of information overload--- it can be brutal!
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    Ah thanks for the reply. So what gives a website a rank of PR? and is PR0 or PR9 best? I believe my site is SEO optimized but I will double check like I said I didn't set it up (not great with websites..).

    Also what is a good method for obtaining these high quality links?
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    My understanding is that Google determines the PR of a site based on quality content, age, authority and probably some other factores. 0 is low, 9 is high, I think it can even be below zero with no PR.
    For optimizing the site I was assuming it is a Word Press site, which is what I am most familiar with and they are very common. I like the SEO vibe plug in because it gives you a check list of things to make sure you take care of such as KWs in Heading 1, keyword density, KW in alt title of images, etc.
    Methods for good quality links? Many things may work. Blog comments are one way I use. At dropmylink,com you can find types of blogs such as keyword luv blogs where your KWs are used as the linking words.
    I use Firefox as my browser, rather than Internet Explorer. This allows me to add the plugin SEO Quake on the bowser and that will tell you the PR of any site you visit. You can also add the "do-follow' feature to firefox so that you are building links at useful blogs, not wasting time making links a "no-follow" sites.
    Do some searching for backlinking information on this forum and you will find tons of info.
    Remember - beware of information overload!
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    I see. So if I were to purchase like 10 PR2 and 5 PR3 backlinks among the few thousand low PR backlinks I have will that boost my ranking up some since I'm barely in the top 100?
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Theoretically those high PR links would help you but Google does not like sites that they believe have purchased links. That is why many blog networks are currently under the gun from Google. Google wants to think that the links were obtained naturally.
    If the keywords you are looking to rank have high competition than it will be very hard to get them ranked. Too many people are using those same keywords themselves. The ideal situation is to find keywords that have relatively high search volume but low competition. Using the Google keyword tool is the simplest way to research this.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      Theoretically those high PR links would help you but Google does not like sites that they believe have purchased links.
      They only like sites that purchase text ads from them
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      • Profile picture of the author Sumon2k7
        I personally doesn't recommend drippable for building links to the money site. Get Some high PR links, social bookmarks , web2.0 links etc and then put all those links to the drippable. Make sure to build links to inner pages of your website as well and thus the link juice will flow throughout the site. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Hello,

    It's not about PR links. A PR10 backlink for example can do some good, but a contextual link on a PR3 would be way better. Google loves relevant content. So please take that with you.

    Also Drippable.com doesn't exist?

    Steven
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    My bad dripable.com is the name of the site and yes I just recently learned they don't use very high quality backlinks..my site is now completely off the top 100 for google best it ever was was 81 and my keywords should be low competition the guy who made the website researched em and seo optimized my WP page but I'm going to go check to see what he thinks is low competition. I added a facebook share plugin to my site last night and shared an article on my page and now my site is not in the top 100 on google but now appears to be ranking around the same in yahoo..what's that all about?

    Also please give me some examples as to how I would "naturally" get a backlink..sorry I'm a total newb at this, I don't even fully understand what a backlink is all I know is that it's good for your website (but now I know that certain backlinks are better.)

    Also this site isn't nessecarily my money site as it is my first site that I want to learn everything from so I don't have to pay people anymore so I'm going to try a lot of techniques so anything you guys have to offer would be great.

    Also I'm going to be cancelling my dripable account at the end of the month since it charges by month so I'll get 500 profile comments and 500 blog posts every single day to my website, is this going to hurt the site in the long run or make things better?

    Thank you all for the help
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneygeddon
    I'm a bit of a newbie too, but I'll try and help.

    From the recent google panda updates (and reading around the subject) the key here is QUALITY. Quality content and quality backlinks.

    If your website is new you should build up backlinks slowly and as naturally as possible. I've read you should wait 2/3 weeks before even starting. One of my websites when I first built it started at 15 in first week then disappeared (Google Dance), but after slow backlinking is now up to 60.

    What I have done so far is submit unique articles to sites such as ezine, infobarrel etc . They allow 2 backlinks to your website.

    I have also created some web 2.0s but they don't link to my website yet.

    I am using social ADR and imautomater for some social bookmarking.

    I have a twitter/facebook/pinterest accounts as well to generate traffic. This really is helping.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    hey man....ok yea as a newbie you sound like you're suffering from information overload. What are your keywords that you're trying to rank for?

    Are you promoting just 1 site? Are you only relying on SEO for traffic?

    How are you monetizing the site?

    I'm gonna assume that you're trying to rank for some decent keywords that get over 1k hits a month.

    What you need to do is start with the basics. Create a site that people actually want to read. Ah boring huh. Yes create content that is really cool around your topic and have it either written by someone else...or write it yourself. The key is to be unique.

    Next, you need to make sure things like, contact page, privacy page, disclaimer, sitemap etc are on the main page. This is easy to do with wordpress.

    Now use a spinner and spin your articles and submit to directories.

    Submit your RSS feed. And submit url to bookmarking sites. This will give you backlinks.

    Also you can do a press release...have someone else legit create this for you. The submit that too and you will get a ton of backlinks too.

    You can also search on google for some edu blogs that allow you to create a user name....ie you....and then post more relevant content with link back to your site.

    That should get you started to get google to like and trust your site.\

    And finally, have patience my brotha.....Rome wasn't built in a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
      Originally Posted by tylerjaysen View Post

      hey man....ok yea as a newbie you sound like you're suffering from information overload. What are your keywords that you're trying to rank for?

      Are you promoting just 1 site? Are you only relying on SEO for traffic?

      How are you monetizing the site?

      I'm gonna assume that you're trying to rank for some decent keywords that get over 1k hits a month.

      What you need to do is start with the basics. Create a site that people actually want to read. Ah boring huh. Yes create content that is really cool around your topic and have it either written by someone else...or write it yourself. The key is to be unique.

      Next, you need to make sure things like, contact page, privacy page, disclaimer, sitemap etc are on the main page. This is easy to do with wordpress.

      Now use a spinner and spin your articles and submit to directories.

      Submit your RSS feed. And submit url to bookmarking sites. This will give you backlinks.

      Also you can do a press release...have someone else legit create this for you. The submit that too and you will get a ton of backlinks too.

      You can also search on google for some edu blogs that allow you to create a user name....ie you....and then post more relevant content with link back to your site.

      That should get you started to get google to like and trust your site.

      And finally, have patience my brotha.....Rome wasn't built in a day.

      Wow thank you so much, this has been exactly the kind of post I've been looking for for almost a week lol. Yes I'm only running one site right now I am building another myself with the techniques I'm learning (this will be my baby) and I am monetizing the website with adsense and clickbank offers at the bottom. I don't know what these things are (RSS feed, spinner, bookmarking sites and .edu blogs) but I do have a facebook that I've been using and it's been getting me and extra 15-30 hits a day on my website. Also my keywords are Teacher Appreciation Week Ideas. Throw a .com at the end of all that and that's the name of my website. I'm kind of on a madden 12 fix right now so I haven't researched the keywords myself but I believe he said there was 1,500 monthly searches? not sure though.

      I just edited my project on dripable to post URLs from every page of my website instead of just the home page (thanks to whoever pointed that out on this page) and I'm thinking about not blasting the 1000 links to that site for a day or so..

      What do you guys think? Is my site going to build trust with google better by consistently getting 1000 backlinks a day or letting the site chill out for a while and build some natural links?

      By a press release..what do you mean exactly. I know what a press release is just not sure on how one would go about getting one put out for a website (probably a brain clot from this information overload thing everyone keeps telling me about)

      Also would writing a new article myself help anything? and is it true that if you use your keywords in the article a lot it helps your website's search rankings? Someone has even said always start your articles with your keywords.

      Once again thanks xD
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneygeddon
    1000 backlinks is WAY too much for a new website!

    Natural is the way to go.

    Just concentrate on the content for your website for now.

    Submit some unique articles to other places - try hubpages you will get some traffic as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    right now it's more along the lines for 4500-5500 backlinks. so you're saying I should let it chill with the SEO backlinks and build some naturaul for a few weeks and write some unique hand written articles on the website then also write blogs about my website on like ezine and hubpages and all those other sites correct?
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneygeddon
      Originally Posted by BlackPotion View Post

      right now it's more along the lines for 4500-5500 backlinks. so you're saying I should let it chill with the SEO backlinks and build some naturaul for a few weeks and write some unique hand written articles on the website then also write blogs about my website on like ezine and hubpages and all those other sites correct?
      Yeah that'll be the best strategy.

      Use ezinearticles, hubpages, infobarrel and squidoo (there are more). Ezine is excellent!

      Most only allow 2 links to your website.

      Ezine - Two links in your resource box. I use anchor texts- one to my main page, one to an inner.

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      - 2 links, they can be anywhere in the article apart from the first paragraph.

      For these two you will have to wait on them to publish it. Ezine can take up to a week. Infobarrel 1 or 2 days.

      Hubpages and Squidoo - they get published straight away. I put two backlinks on. You might be able to put more on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneygeddon
    Oh and make sure you get the URLs for your links. Why?

    RSS and Ping them.. (I'm writing a post on my website on that, it's quite simple really!)
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    thanks i have no idea what rss feed actually is so I'd like to read it once it's done.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    actually I just updated my cute rank profile and I'm now 46 in google and still 93 on yahoo so it's starting to work already
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  • Profile picture of the author dodly
    you should make quality backlinks with the same niche
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    oh and another thing. When you put your links on your blogs....clickbank etc...make sure you cloak them. Google doesn't like to see a bunch on affiliate links. Cloaking means that your aff links looks like another link within your site as apposed to a link that looks all weird and long and spells affiliate to google. ex www.yourdomain.com/link

    Also, have a bunch of links going out to other authority sites from your blog. Google likes this too, and with the new update... it's important that google sees that people are actually staying on your site and reading content.

    In other words, if you have analytics installed on your site...there is the bounce rate feature measured in a percentage. What this means is it tells google if someone bails from your site immediately....100% bounce rate...vs. staying on the site for a while. So when you see 60% bounce that is much better.

    And this tells big G that people are staying on your site a while....and reading your content....which makes Big G trust your site more and in turn pushes you up in the rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    how would I go about putting my affiliate link into a cloaking link? I'm not sure I understand how to cloak the affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    Okay also I was ranked 46 on google for my keyword than I went a made a backlink to a .edu blog in the form of a comment and now I'm not even in the top 100. what's the deal with that?
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    I wouldn't worry too much about any immediate effects your backlinking efforts appear to be causing.

    Keep it consistent and it'll get some better traction and maybe flop about less.

    Consider you're competing with others for the same keyword, things are bound to jump around a bit.

    Good luck!

    Owen
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackPotion
    Someone told me to "cloak" my clickbank adds on my website..how exactly would I go about doing that?
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    • Profile picture of the author UW
      Originally Posted by BlackPotion View Post

      Someone told me to "cloak" my clickbank adds on my website..how exactly would I go about doing that?
      make it a link. so instead of uiewrhf.com it would a word in your article that would be a link to another website. so for example if the word was "click here" then "click here" would be the link. i would give a real example with a link but cant use links until i have 15 posts
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