Cannot Trust Google, Getting ready to lose my adsense

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Few days ago I lost my adwords account , it has good funds in it ( many vouchers accumulated over 6 years ) , the reason was the URL is not compatible with google policy ( BS though ) tried to get it back but after few emails i gave up already .. no warring though.

I have another G account that has my adsense account ( no adwords ) , which makes about one dollar a day from 13-20 daily clicks . coz most of the visitors from overseas ( China, Vietnam ..etc ) ..

I was thinking to build another site that targets US and place some adsense in it ..
But after my adwords account suspended , I said to myself what would i do if they just disabled my adsense account for another BS reason .. I will not be able to get it back , the same case like my adwords account ( even more difficult as they pay money in this case ) .

I never been able to trust Google .. they are trying to control the internet world . I always have this feelings
However, back to point , I don't want to put all the eggs in one basket .. so searching for alternatives ( just in case ) .. I'm not good in IM so clickbank, amazon are not the right thing for me ..

what do you think could be good alternative ?


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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Maybe Ebay. They wont delete your account as fast as Amazon or Google would. But Ebay can ban your account also with no good reason (has happened to alot of Powersellers).

    Your best bet is to face your fears and start a website and sell a product on there. This way the only person who can ban you is yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    You could always try chitika. They have a decent ad program.
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    • Profile picture of the author itsme70
      Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

      You could always try chitika. They have a decent ad program.
      More info please about them , how much they pay per click ( average ) is click price based on country like Adsense?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Let's see, you have many vouchers in an adwords account in which you are promoting a domain that is against Goggles terms of service.

    No warning? Don't you read the TOS...

    And, for the record you said "...it has good funds in it" meaning your account has good funds in it but those were vouchers from Google so Google gave you the funds.

    Pure speculation but I am guessing that you might have purchased those vouchers from somewhere and/or promoted a domain that has some sort of brand name in it and you're surprised Google shut it down?
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    • Profile picture of the author itsme70
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Let's see, you have many vouchers in an adwords account in which you are promoting a domain that is against Goggles terms of service.

      No warning? Don't you read the TOS...

      And, for the record you said "...it has good funds in it" meaning your account has good funds in it but those were vouchers from Google so Google gave you the funds.

      Pure speculation but I am guessing that you might have purchased those vouchers from somewhere and/or promoted a domain that has some sort of brand name in it and you're surprised Google shut it down?
      the account has about 250 USD , accumulated over the years , I never used this account for promoting any site i have but one site back in 2007..
      the vouchers where $50 for opening the account ( online) , $150 ,$100 sent buy G to my home hard copy vouchers..

      the site I was trying to prompt , was not my site , huh ,, it is not my site. nor I know who's the owner it is just in the same niche and have good and clean look ,,
      wondering !! I was trying to get the real time data for the keyword that I'll developed a site to target it ..

      As you know googe data maybe outdated ( it is not real time ) .. so could be no more interest in at this time while keywords tool says something else..
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post


        the site I was trying to prompt , was not my site , huh ,, it is not my site. nor I know who's the owner
        Why would you point your AdWords ads at a site you don't control??? That's foolish and just begging for trouble.
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        • Profile picture of the author itsme70
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Why would you point your AdWords ads at a site you don't control??? That's foolish and just begging for trouble.
          because I don't have a site in that niche yet .. And I want to check how many impressions would i get in 24 hours ,, so I jsut run the ad for hours or so , set my limit to $30 a day .. . I don't mind losing to $30 just to make risk analysis , what if I devolved a site and spent much more money in SEO , Hosting , domain .. etc just to find myself receiving few visitors a day ..
          Still foolish ?
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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

            because I don't have a site in that niche yet .. And I want to check how many impressions would i get in 24 hours ,, so I jsut run the ad for hours or so , set my limit to $30 a day .. . I don't mind losing to $30 just to make risk analysis , what if I devolved a site and spent much more money in SEO , Hosting , domain .. etc just to find myself receiving few visitors a day ..
            Still foolish ?
            Wow dude.

            I have a few squeeze pages I will let you send $30 of traffic to. They are just straight up squeezes and we all know how much Google loves those.
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            • Profile picture of the author itsme70
              Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

              Wow dude.

              I have a few squeeze pages I will let you send $30 of traffic to. They are just straight up squeezes and we all know how much Google loves those.
              too late , suspended already
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

            Still foolish ?
            Um....yeah.....

            AdWords maintains a history of every site you've ever promoted. When one of those sites does something that's not in line with TOS, you can kiss your account goodbye as you've already found out.

            So, yeah...it is still foolish...
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            • Profile picture of the author itsme70
              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              Um....yeah.....

              AdWords maintains a history of every site you've ever promoted. When one of those sites does something that's not in line with TOS, you can kiss your account goodbye as you've already found out.

              So, yeah...it is still foolish...
              This idea is not mine I found it in an ebook and have used it few times before and account never been suspended , I see it is really useful . at least from my point of view.
              However it is over now , and this not the subject of this thread.
              I want to get ready with adsense alternatives so not all my eggs in google's basket .
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

                This idea is not mine I found it in an ebook and have used it few times before and account never been suspended , I see it is really useful .
                So useful that you wound up with a banned account.
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                • Profile picture of the author itsme70
                  Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                  So useful that you wound up with a banned account.
                  Well, let say it WAS so useful at least in my opinion , Happy ??
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                  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                    Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

                    Well, let say it WAS so useful at least in my opinion , Happy ??
                    For someone who doesn't know what they are doing, you have a pretty snarky attitude. When you come to a public forum and make posts, you are going to hear things you don't want to. Get used to it or get off the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    Never put ALL of your eggs in ONE basket.. I find it very very true..

    Yeah, if google ban you, all you have to do is go out and search for alternatives to replace it..

    I know it's easier said than done but what to do? It's either you get moving or be left behind..

    I'm not trying to be rude or anything.. (I'm really sorry), But I just want you to know that they are other and even better alternatives out there.

    Don't give up It's part and partial of life (**** do happens)
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    You can't trust Google? The question is "can Google trust you?"

    I know if I am giving out coupons to a free visit to a membership site and my records show you have accessed 7 days in a row from using a one time coupon .. I am banning you from my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author itsme70
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      You can't trust Google? The question is "can Google trust you?"

      I know if I am giving out coupons to a free visit to a membership site and my records show you have accessed 7 days in a row from using a one time coupon .. I am banning you from my site.
      I did not ask for those coupons ,, they sent to me by Google .. so what is your point ?
      I just did not use them this is why they accumulated ... and remember we are talk about many years not one month.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

        I did not ask for those coupons ,, they sent to me by Google .. so what is your point ?
        I just did not use them this is why they accumulated ... and remember we are talk about many years not one month.
        If you read their TOS it states those vouchers are for new accounts. Now I won't tell you I have never broken a site's TOS but I can promise you .. if I get busted for it .. I will not come on here and whine about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author itsme70
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          If you read their TOS it states those vouchers are for new accounts. Now I won't tell you I have never broken a site's TOS but I can promise you .. if I get busted for it .. I will not come on here and whine about it.
          some vouchers , yes for new accounts ..
          Some can be used for new and old account..
          if the voucher is only for new account it will NOT work with an old account ...
          They sent to my exact name , so they know what they do and they know I have an account with them .. maybe coz the account was not in use for long time so they want to encourage me to use .. or they could have other reasons .. but this no my point .... my point is about adsense.
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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

            some vouchers , yes for new accounts ..
            Some can be used for new and old account..
            if the voucher is only for new account it will NOT work with an old account ...
            They sent to my exact name , so they know what they do and they know I have an account with them .. maybe coz the account was not in use for long time so they want to encourage me to use .. or they could have other reasons .. but this no my point .... my point is about adsense.
            Yeah ... the next board meeting I have with Google .. I will mention to them they screwed ya.
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  • Profile picture of the author chenkev
    While it's POSSIBLE that Google will close your account for some obscure reason, I don't think you should be too concerned about it as long as you're doing everything above board and white-hat.

    That doesn't mean you should put all your eggs in one basket of course.
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    • Profile picture of the author itsme70
      Originally Posted by chenkev View Post

      While it's POSSIBLE that Google will close your account for some obscure reason, I don't think you should be too concerned about it as long as you're doing everything above board and white-hat.

      That doesn't mean you should put all your eggs in one basket of course.
      Who knows how they think and in what matter they think your site is in violation ... I read many stories like mine about adwords and more about adsense ... in short they have no time to investigate ...
      if they suspect you then you are guilty and they will not even bother to warn you ... you know why ? Coz they have no real competitor , If they have competitor they would warn you first not just disable you ..

      And also they could do that to make some ppl screaming on the internet so others get scared ... it is could be as simple as that also
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

    Few days ago I lost my adwords account , it has good funds in it ( many vouchers accumulated over 6 years ) , the reason was the URL is not compatible with google policy ( BS though ) tried to get it back but after few emails i gave up already .. no warring though.

    I have another G account that has my adsense account ( no adwords ) , which makes about one dollar a day from 13-20 daily clicks . coz most of the visitors from overseas ( China, Vietnam ..etc ) ..

    I was thinking to build another site that targets US and place some adsense in it ..
    But after my adwords account suspended , I said to myself what would i do if they just disabled my adsense account for another BS reason .. I will not be able to get it back , the same case like my adwords account ( even more difficult as they pay money in this case ) .

    I never been able to trust Google .. they are trying to control the internet world . I always have this feelings
    However, back to point , I don't want to put all the eggs in one basket .. so searching for alternatives ( just in case ) .. I'm not good in IM so clickbank, amazon are not the right thing for me ..

    what do you think could be good alternative ?


    You say you can't trust Google yet you have multiple Google accounts.

    Very strange behavior for someone that doesn't trust Google.

    BTW, chitika sucks at converting Adsense traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author itsme70
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You say you can't trust Google yet you have multiple Google accounts.

      Very strange behavior for someone that doesn't trust Google.

      BTW, chitika sucks at converting Adsense traffic.
      Yes, I don't trust them , any problem !!
      You can trust them as you like, but I'm not

      once you get your account banned for whatever reason, then you will know what I'm talking about ,
      search for adsense banned account or adwords and you find horrible stories. ( just now in this forum I found fresh case )
      the main problem with G is they cannot answer / investigate every case ..
      IT IS ALWAYS WRONG TO PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET specially google basket.. just my opinion ,
      And again this thread is not about adwords it is just about finding more baskets to speared my eggs .
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by itsme70 View Post

        Yes, I don't trust them , any problem !!
        You can trust them as you like, but I'm not

        once you get your account banned for whatever reason, then you will know what I'm talking about ,
        search for adsense banned account or adwords and you find horrible stories. ( just now in this forum I found fresh case )
        the main problem with G is they cannot answer / investigate every case ..
        IT IS ALWAYS WRONG TO PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET specially google basket.. just my opinion ,
        And again this thread is not about adwords it is just about finding more baskets to speared my eggs .
        Sounds like your the one with the problem, considering my Adsense account is still working fine & has been for 5+ years.

        The only people who worry about getting banned are the guys that:
        • Can't be bothered to read the TOS
        • Do bl@ck hat

        Google doesn't ban accounts for no reason. If you've been banned, you violated the TOS, it's that simple.

        Good luck with your baskets & eggs.
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