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Do backlinks still work for ranking???

by coreytucker
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Hi,

I know google has changed and all. But do we even need to still build backlinks? If so I was wondering is it smart to "reverse engineer" the websites ranked on the first page of google for the keyword im targeting?

I figure I will use market samurai to look up the websites on the first page of Google im trying to rank for and see where they are getting their backlinks from. Then I will build 3-5 new backlinks per day to my website using my keyword anchor text 50% of the time.

Does this sound like this will work or will google penalize me for building backlinks? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    That shouldn't hurt at all.

    I build hundreds of backlinks to my sites a day and I don't get penalized
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Backlinks are the biggest part of ranking
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    • Profile picture of the author aygabtu
      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      Backlinks are the biggest part of ranking

      Unfortunately that is so true, but google can't evaluate every site personally. Luckily it isn't the only factor, but it makes it hard for new sites to get organic traffic for a while.
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    • Profile picture of the author fiberoptic
      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      Backlinks are the biggest part of ranking
      Backlinks are pretty much the only factor when Google determines the ranking of a website. Content plays a role as well, but as long as your content is unique AnD DOEsn't LOOK liek This. Then high PR backlinks will get you to the top of Google in no time.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    so should I be building about 5 backlinks per day then on average? I mean I have a huge content site that im growing on average of 3 pages per day. Right now its only 2 weeks old and has 40 pages to it. So im thinking of just building 5 backlinks per day to random pages on my website. Sound like a plan?
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  • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
    Don't worry about number per day.

    Focus on high quality links from related websites. But yes, build links to all your pages and just not your homepage.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    my goal here is to rank for all sorts of long tail keywords. So I should just build backlinks targeting these keywords right? Isn't it like 50% targeted anchor text and 50% not targeted? I mean if I keep building 3 pages per day eventually I will have hundreds of pages. I will start seeing long tail keyword traffic no matter what.
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    • Profile picture of the author fiberoptic
      Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

      my goal here is to rank for all sorts of long tail keywords. So I should just build backlinks targeting these keywords right? Isn't it like 50% targeted anchor text and 50% not targeted? I mean if I keep building 3 pages per day eventually I will have hundreds of pages. I will start seeing long tail keyword traffic no matter what.
      The more words you're using, the less of a role pagerank plays. For example, a single word such as "ipod" well be ranked only by PageRank.

      Example:



      However if you're trying to rank: "Best ipod accessories for kids"

      Then it's possible that a PR1 article named, "Best ipod accessories for kids"will show up at the top of google.


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  • Profile picture of the author eurekapsycrille
    50% for a non-targeted keywords is not really necessary. You can just use them like 10-20%. What I usually do is to target different long tail keywords but still relevant to my niche.

    If you are targeting ipods, You can use different long tail keywords but as much as possible, do not put your main keyword (ipod) away. You can include that also.

    Other keywords for diversion like click here, or just a mere link can also be good to look more natural.
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    • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
      Originally Posted by eurekapsycrille View Post

      50% for a non-targeted keywords is not really necessary. You can just use them like 10-20%. What I usually do is to target different long tail keywords but still relevant to my niche.

      If you are targeting ipods, You can use different long tail keywords but as much as possible, do not put your main keyword (ipod) away. You can include that also.

      Other keywords for diversion like click here, or just a mere link can also be good to look more natural.
      do you mean use my keywords as anchor text 80% of time? I thought the new google update made where this could hurt your seo.
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      • Profile picture of the author radivoj
        Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

        do you mean use my keywords as anchor text 80% of time? I thought the new google update made where this could hurt your seo.

        you should use kw such as "click here" "visit here" and other LSI kw relative to your niche also regarding new google update made where it could hurt your site using same anchor as you said 80% of time if this is the case then somebody can easily sent over 10K spammy links with the same anchor to your site and you will get penalized for "unnatural" links, in the last update by march 30 they said Google working hard to prevent this happen you can check it here http://support.google.com/webmasters...5140&ctx=topic Good Luck
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        • Profile picture of the author boxoun
          Originally Posted by radivoj View Post

          you should use kw such as "click here" "visit here" and other LSI kw relative to your niche also regarding new google update made where it could hurt your site using same anchor as you said 80% of time if this is the case then somebody can easily sent over 10K spammy links with the same anchor to your site and you will get penalized for "unnatural" links, in the last update by march 30 they said Google working hard to prevent this happen you can check it here Can competitors harm ranking? - Webmaster Tools Help Good Luck
          Somebody already did that and triggered an unnatural link notice. You are in an info bubble. Log out and search again.
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      • Profile picture of the author eurekapsycrille
        Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

        do you mean use my keywords as anchor text 80% of time? I thought the new google update made where this could hurt your seo.

        Use your keywords as anchor text but you should mix it up. I have given you an example that if you are targeting a keyword like "ipods", you can make it like "best cheap ipods", or "affordable ipods for you". I mean mixing it up without putting it away.

        Again, do not afraid to use "click here" or some other anchor text, or just a mere link for better diversion.
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  • Profile picture of the author adriel97
    Backlinking definitely still works for ranking. Is in fact one of the top ways to increase your ranking. The key is creating quality links from sites related to your niche.
    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author minigem
    Backlinks still have strong impact when it comes to backlinks. Just build quality over quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author AymanGham
    still working with automated tool like seolinkrobots or SENuke X?
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I estimate that the importance of backlinks can be changed in next years but they always has an important role in ranking results. So just try to make strong backlinks for your websites to rank them high in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjay207
    yes backlinks is effect on our website if u want to gain page rank make sure your backlink is not on home page.... you need quality backlink or high pr back link
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    the same type of back links are still powerful

    blog comments
    contextual links
    articles
    links on hight pr and relevant sites
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    Pretend I am Google and here is my reply.

    "Backlinks have absolutely nothing to do with ranking. Focus on unique quality content. That is allllllllllllllllllll you need."
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    • Profile picture of the author fiberoptic
      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

      Pretend I am Google and here is my reply.

      "Backlinks have absolutely nothing to do with ranking. Focus on unique quality content. That is allllllllllllllllllll you need."
      Google uses a series of algorithms to determine the ranking of websites. Quality content is important but why do so many of the top ranked websites have a high PR?

      Originally Posted by eurekapsycrille View Post

      Use your keywords as anchor text but you should mix it up. I have given you an example that if you are targeting a keyword like "ipods", you can make it like "best cheap ipods", or "affordable ipods for you". I mean mixing it up without putting it away.

      Again, do not afraid to use "click here" or some other anchor text, or just a mere link for better diversion.
      Getting in the top 10 for anything to do with iPods means you'll be competing with Amazon, Best Buy, eBay, and CNET. All of which have a PR1 - PR4. Even "affordable ipods for you" has all PR1+ web pages in the top 10.
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      • Profile picture of the author nikks
        Backlinks are still working at the moment. It is still how Google evaluate your website based on the number of "recommendations" you have. But make sure that the backlinks are of High Quality and not some low quality links.

        Also from what I know, if you build too many backlinks in a short period, Example 200 links in a week. Google will penalised your website by putting it far below the ranking. It happened to someone I know. And of cos I do know of a remedy to counter that. You can actually "appeal" to Google if it penalised your website due to too many backlinks.

        Hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author ultimates
    Its not so much the number of back links you have these days, its more about the quality of your back links. It use to be where google would penalize you for the number of back links building in shirt period of time, but not so much now.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    I agree with ultimates, Quality backlinks are the way to go in this day and age.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seo Mall
    Of course, backlinks still work! But try to use more trusted backlinks with high PR or .edu backlinks.
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