My Websites Disappeared from Google Serp

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I have about 20 websites.
A few hours ago all my websites (except one website) Disappeared from Google Serp (when I type keywords in google they are not is results at all).

I use Hostgator Baby Website Plan (1 primary domain and 19 add-on domains) for my websites. Only one website (it's an add-on domain) is still in serp.

I have not changed anything. People say it's a Google Dance, but dance with all my websites? - Strange!

All the websites can be seen in google if i write the whole domain name wwwdotmywebsitedotcom. I cant see them even if i type wwwdotmywebsite (space here) dotcom

Any experience, suggestions, advices will be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
#disappeared #google #serp #websites
  • Profile picture of the author Fadiz
    That sucks, try adding your sites to Webmasters ? Google then you should see some msgs that will help you solve your penalty issue

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Bhutto2k
    Same here.......8 websites disappeared from SERP yesterday for all keywords. Sites are still in Google's index though.

    Looks like another update was rolled out. I highly doubt that its Google dance.
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  • Profile picture of the author razorhound
    I was waiting for someone to post this...
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    • Profile picture of the author Falkonator
      Same thing happened to me. All the sites that disappeared were less than 6 months old. I hope they come back soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    It looks like penalty or something like that. If the websites are indexed and you don't see them in Google results, its suspicious and maybe your site is penalized.
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by socialbookmark View Post

      It looks like penalty or something like that. If the websites are indexed and you don't see them in Google results, its suspicious and maybe your site is penalized.
      I do think so. But what to do is the question.
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    There are 2, 3 even 4 year old websites among my domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
    Have any of you been using UAW? Seems to have taken a hit over the weekend.
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    Any more ideas / Did anyone have such a problem - how was it salved?
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    • Profile picture of the author razorhound
      Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

      Any more ideas / Did anyone have such a problem - how was it salved?
      Just wait it up I guess, too soon to look for solutions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

      Any more ideas / Did anyone have such a problem - how was it salved?
      It happend to me today, my site is still indexed but it's gone from ALL search terms, even those that ranked 1st without any backlinking.

      I did however find ONE page on my site that I haven't even cared about ranking all the way down on page 20 in my main search term.

      I've used legit backlinking methods, the only thing is that I changed the Meta Description on the main page 2 days ago..

      EDIT: I would just like to say my site never ranked as 1st in any of the keywords I tried to rank in, I always been around 3rd down to 6th and I can say there are PLENTY of sites above and right under me in search terms that looks crap and don't even bring any good information to readers. So I don't understand what's going on here. All my content is uniqe and well written.
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  • Profile picture of the author sthuro
    I have seen the same thing today; sites have either disappeared completely or dropped 50-100 places.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    The same thing happened to me 2 days ago. One of my websites was just starting to do well, it was getting about 250-300 unique visitors a day. And then it completely vanished from Google. It's only getting about 20 visitors a day now. It's not deindexed, but doesn't appear in the first 100 results for any keyword or phrase. I did use BMR on this website for about 3 weeks. Maybe they finally got around to penalizing me?

    It's a good website too, with 40 unique articles. I'm just buying new websites and starting fresh now. Lesson learned. The funny thing is that BMR never really helped this website; the majority of traffic I got came from phrases and long-tail keywords due to the great content.

    My websites are all hosted on the same hostgator baby plan (21 total), but only 3 of them were getting good traffic. One of them, my personal blog, wasn't monetized. The other two were monetized with Adsense. Both of these websites lost ranking, but the better one was hit very hard. The one that was hit was an EMD.
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  • Profile picture of the author nemesis81
    same problem here, 2 of my website completly disappeared from the serp, i check if they are indexed, and no problem, they are simply not show anymore on the serp.

    Check in the webmaster tools of google and no advice or error.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marketing Fool
      Run this search at google:

      site:yourdomain.com

      Does anything come up? If so you have not been deindexed...you are just google dancing.

      If nothing comes up, chances are you've been deindexed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rndmals
        Same deal. About half a dozen sites disappeared. All still indexed thought. Really not much in common between those sites. We'll wait and see.
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      • Profile picture of the author nemesis81
        Originally Posted by Marketing Fool View Post

        Run this search at google:

        site:yourdomain.com

        Does anything come up? If so you have not been deindexed...you are just google dancing.

        If nothing comes up, chances are you've been deindexed.
        No, they aren't deindexed, they was stable for the main keyword in 2/4 positions.

        Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

        Are your disappeared sites EMD?
        One of the 2 yes, is an EMD, the other one is not EMD, but have the main keyword in the domain name.

        I checked another time the google webmaster tool, no message.

        Never used BMR or other private blog networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Are your disappeared sites EMD?
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  • Profile picture of the author studlee46
    Same here. More than one site gone. WTF is Google doing?
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  • has anyone had any issues with the recently updated Google crawl?
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    • Originally Posted by DiamondLaneDesigns View Post

      has anyone had any issues with the recently updated Google crawl?
      Also If you have PPC campaign, would this help prevent from being deindexed?
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  • Profile picture of the author glock67
    google has being moving my sites also
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  • Profile picture of the author msuther
    I have over 50 sites on a hostgator sharred account and they don't show up in google today. They are all still indexed, but I lost my rankings. I would like to know if other people that have experianced the same thing today were all on host gator? My other sites on other hosting accounts are still ranking high. So if it were an update to Google then it would have done the same to my other sites. What I am very concerned with is that Google would get rid of many sites based on an IP and not the actual website content. All of my sites were built differently on this account and all are now gone out of the search results
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by msuther View Post

      I have over 50 sites on a hostgator sharred account and they don't show up in google today. They are all still indexed, but I lost my rankings. I would like to know if other people that have experianced the same thing today were all on host gator? My other sites on other hosting accounts are still ranking high. So if it were an update to Google then it would have done the same to my other sites. What I am very concerned with is that Google would get rid of many sites based on an IP and not the actual website content. All of my sites were built differently on this account and all are now gone out of the search results
      Do you use another webhosting? - and what about those sites (based on different hosts) ?
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  • Profile picture of the author yousefgreat
    This is probably due to some major Google Algorithm changes and TONS of websites have been affected. Wait a few days and everything will back to normal. Lets not jump into any conclusions yet.

    I can say that aged domains have been affected with this along with new domains so it has nothing to do with domain authority. Websites with aggressive link building have also been affected along with websites without any single link placement. So let's wait and see

    My reference is 100's of websites I own and monetize that have 100% unique content, natural and high quality link placements with proper social media interaction that have always been sitting #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    My websites were on shared hosting too. The hostgator baby plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bhutto2k
    My sites were hosted on SeoHosting (Hostgator).......it seems like majority of sites that got hit (as reported by various users) were hosted at hostgator.......or just coincidence?
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  • Profile picture of the author SuzanneH
    Lots of similar messages on Google's Webmaster Tools forum. Something's afoot -- either another Panda update or a major algorithm change.

    Suzanne
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      My sites have only hosting the same.

      That's why I think - maybe the hosting is problem in our case.

      Please, clear out - people who have the same problems - do they use host gator (primary+addons) or something like that?
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

        My sites have only hosting the same.

        That's why I think - maybe the hosting is problem in our case.

        Please, clear out - people who have the same problems - do they use host gator (primary+addons) or something like that?
        I use hostgator and my sites have all increased in rank over the weekend.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
    Another thread is talking about this too.

    Google Just Wiped Out Over 700 of My Sites

    Also, to see what Google is looking for and whether you are building sites with methods that may put your sites at risk, read this:

    Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

    Google wants quality sites, that offer value to the end consumer that have not used "loopholes" or "gaming" the system to gain their ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbullets
    Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

    I have about 20 websites.
    A few hours ago all my websites (except one website) Disappeared from Google Serp (when I type keywords in google they are not is results at all).

    I use Hostgator Baby Website Plan (1 primary domain and 19 add-on domains) for my websites. Only one website (it's an add-on domain) is still in serp.

    I have not changed anything. People say it's a Google Dance, but dance with all my websites? - Strange!

    All the websites can be seen in google if i write the whole domain name wwwdotmywebsitedotcom. I cant see them even if i type wwwdotmywebsite (space here) dotcom

    Any experience, suggestions, advices will be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
    It happened sometimes but after some time website came back again in ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by socialbullets View Post

      It happened sometimes but after some time website came back again in ranking.
      Yes, single website Yes! But all the websites?!
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  • Profile picture of the author cashtree
    My site in sig was completely removed for many keywords. My sites an authority site for this niche, keywords include "cheap vps deals" "cheap vps proxy" "cheap vps vpn" all gone now and I can't find most etc...all were front page. It's clearly google has declared war on everyone, and I use hostgator.
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    I'll write hostgator now - and let you know the Summary. - People with the same problems, let us know your stories, also ways what to do or what are you going to do...
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    • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
      Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

      My site in sig was completely removed for many keywords. My sites an authority site for this niche, keywords include "cheap vps deals" "cheap vps proxy" "cheap vps vpn" all gone now and I can't find most etc...all were front page. It's clearly google has declared war on everyone, and I use hostgator.
      Google has clearly NOT declared war on EVERYONE!

      There are plenty of people who have not been adversely affected.

      SEE other thread:
      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-my-sites.html

      Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

      I'll write hostgator now - and let you know the Summary. - People with the same problems, let us know your stories, also ways what to do or what are you going to do...
      Also, as I already stated, it is not hostgator as I use hostgator and have no problems with any of my sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtree
        Originally Posted by TopKat22 View Post

        Google has clearly NOT declared war on EVERYONE!

        There are plenty of people who have not been adversely affected.

        SEE other thread:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-my-sites.html



        Also, as I already stated, it is not hostgator as I use hostgator and have no problems with any of my sites.
        EV-RY-ONE. I'm so tired of this "I wasn't effected blah blah so must be others fault" well guess what champ I wasn't effected in the big cleanup they did last time because I don't do shady backlinks or anything. Didn't then don't know, but that doesn't matter google has declared WAR on internet marketers and anyone with a good site that doesn't pay them $$$ for placement, so it's time you wake up and smell the coffee.
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        • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
          Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

          EV-RY-ONE. I'm so tired of this "I wasn't effected blah blah so must be others fault" .
          I never added the "so must be others fault".

          I will now, as I've always have, suggest that everyone have many methods of getting targeted traffic to your site so that you do not rely totally on Google.

          There have also been some really good posts about what Google wants and even how to recover your site from Google on the post I listed above but here it is again.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-my-sites.html

          If you do not want to go through that post, go here for what Google is looking for (if you want to continue to work with Google)

          Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

          and here to find out what Google saw as wrong with your site and get it repaired if need be:

          Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

          Once you go through everything on this site, there is a link at the very end to have Google reconsider your site.

          Good luck.
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtree
            Originally Posted by TopKat22 View Post

            I never added the "so must be others fault".

            I will now, as I've always have, suggest that everyone have many methods of getting targeted traffic to your site so that you do not rely totally on Google.

            There have also been some really good posts about what Google wants and even how to recover your site from Google on the post I listed above but here it is again.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-my-sites.html

            If you do not want to go through that post, go here for what Google is looking for (if you want to continue to work with Google)

            Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

            and here to find out what Google saw as wrong with your site and get it repaired if need be:

            Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

            Once you go through everything on this site, there is a link at the very end to have Google reconsider your site.

            Good luck.
            That's ok, screw Google, I want to wipe them out of my program entirely. So sick of that company, I want nothing to do with them and if it's possible to achieve this i'm going to pursue it.
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    I'll will be great for Comparison to know somebody who has hostgator baby plan and another hosting plans too.
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  • Profile picture of the author nemesis81
    yes, i use hostgator too...
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by nemesis81 View Post

      yes, i use hostgator too...
      and you have the same problems?
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    Hostgator Livechat is down !!! -

    You are being connected to a
    representative in our false department
    right now.
    Estimated Wait Time: 11.656050955414 min.

    Terrible!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author tyang
    Noticed some massive SERP droppings to - Yes I'm with Hostgator. Hrmmm, something sounds fishy. We need more people to chime in.
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by tyang View Post

      Noticed some massive SERP droppings to - Yes I'm with Hostgator. Hrmmm, something sounds fishy. We need more people to chime in.
      Correct Tyang! - We need more people to chime in.
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      • Profile picture of the author panic
        my site dipped right off the radar as well, using 1and1 for hosting
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        • Profile picture of the author andygoal
          Originally Posted by panic View Post

          my site dipped right off the radar as well, using 1and1 for hosting
          is it managed as add-on domain?
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          • Profile picture of the author panic
            Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

            is it managed as add-on domain?
            its not an add-on, its the main site, although i do have a couple of other sites under the same hosting package
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            • Profile picture of the author andygoal
              Originally Posted by panic View Post

              its not an add-on, its the main site, although i do have a couple of other sites under the same hosting package
              and are they (a couple of other sites ) still in serp ?
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        • Profile picture of the author andygoal
          What about Canonical issue guys?

          More exactly,

          when I write
          www.mywebsite.com
          and
          www.mywebsite.com/index.html

          I see both of them - can google think that I have dublicate content?

          Note:
          I have that kind of canonical - .htaccess file in my hosting directory:

          <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
          RewriteEngine On
          RewriteBase /
          RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^IANA &mdash; Example domains [NC]
          RewriteRule ^(.*)$ IANA &mdash; Example domains [L,R=301]
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          • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
            I have some blogs on a shared hostgator plan - just checked still top 2-3 positions for their key words no movement

            They are both 80+ posts in them - how thin were your sites?

            (The guy on the other thread had 5 page sites)

            While organic traffic from google is nice - there are plenty of ways to drive traffic to your blog without being high in the serps

            Guest posting, contributing Useful blog and forums comments (not for backlinking purposes but to add to the forum/blog), utilizing your mailing lists, solo ads and more.

            Easy peasy
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  • Profile picture of the author cashtree
    Just talked to hostgator staff he just kept saying that don't control how google ranks whatever and must be my sites SEO blah blah. I'm moving all my sites off their servers most likely and putting on a VPS. Also give hostgator staff a good rating if you do talk to them, they're really not treated very well there, I've talked to some ex-employees.
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  • Profile picture of the author andygoal
    and are they still in serp ?
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    • Profile picture of the author nashvillegurl
      On the 16th, every single existing Keyword I had ranked and tracking dropped completely off the radar in Google. Then a few new and very random ones appeared for 2 sites. Some of them were actual affiliate links that were suddenly ranking (like myurl/?aff_id=blahblah). Weird. (Sidenote: I blocked those with .htacess and requested them to be discounted in Google Webmaster Tools. Something you might want to consider if you run an affiliate program.)

      IMPORTANT: My sites were still indexed the whole time (type "site:yoururl" into google search). Just the keywords lost their ranks.

      The urls I was tracking were all 9 sites on my Hostgator business plan (one main url and the others were addon domains), PLUS a site I manage for a friend - which was NOT on my hosting account but also on Hostgator. I did have a link to the friend's url from 2 of my sites, and random linking between my sites. These are my only sites.

      My first thought was, oh crap... I got penalized and took my friend down with me! He makes his living on that site! I jumped the gun and deleted all interlinking among my sites, installed a "nofollow all external links" WP plugin on all of the sites, and requested a Google reconsideration - for him only.

      Bad move, as ALL the sites were back up in approximately 24 hours.

      Some rankings were better than before, some worse. Overall better. I have experienced the Google dance before, but I've never seen EVERY site I have go down, much less someone else's I was controlling. It was a scary day for me.

      Hope I have included enough detail and explained well enough to provide value to the discussion. The moral of the story is...

      Don't succumb to kneejerk reactions. Wait a few days at least to see what happens. Check to make sure you're still indexed. Logically, I would NEVER have thought in a million years that ALL of those sites' keyword rankings would disappear at the same time without it being a penalty of some sort. But I was wrong.

      Good luck, everyone!!! Hope everyone's ending is a happy one.
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      • Profile picture of the author ferriswannabe
        My sites are also back but lost rankings for many long-tail keywords.

        Also, I lost my own offline google places listing, and that has still not come back. No messages from google, and displays as active, but cannot be seen.

        Many of the rankings I lost were built on social bookmarking, wiki links, and some .edu links.

        I think these type of links have been greatly devalued.
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  • Profile picture of the author Goldenpig2007
    hey just want to let everyone know that google is cracking down on link packages. and devaluing the blogs where we get links so it's causing our sites to rank low since that link juice doesnt count anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtree
      Originally Posted by Goldenpig2007 View Post

      hey just want to let everyone know that google is cracking down on link packages. and devaluing the blogs where we get links so it's causing our sites to rank low since that link juice doesnt count anymore.
      I never used link packages...infact all my backlinks are forums, reddit and very few blogs. So I think google just suck, sorry.
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      • Profile picture of the author andygoal
        Our websites that are not in google serp are located on Unlimited Domain Hostings (hostgator, 1and1, etc.).

        Did it happen to any website which has single website hosting plan?
        Like Godaddy Economy Hosting Plan?



        P.S. I know that there are some websites on Unlimited Domain Hostings which are still in serp. But here we need direct answer to the question above!
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  • Profile picture of the author msuther
    I have 3 host gator accounts. The one with 50 add on domains is the one I had the problem with. All 50 domains are still indexed but are not ranking within Google. Having looked at various forums today, it seems that the problem is that Google knocked out everyone on a paticular ip (shared hosting). I am a programmer, and my guess is that Google decided to penalize one of my sites, but they instead messed up and penalized all the sites on the shared hosting ip.
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by msuther View Post

      I have 3 host gator accounts. The one with 50 add on domains is the one I had the problem with. All 50 domains are still indexed but are not ranking within Google. Having looked at various forums today, it seems that the problem is that Google knocked out everyone on a paticular ip (shared hosting). I am a programmer, and my guess is that Google decided to penalize one of my sites, but they instead messed up and penalized all the sites on the shared hosting ip.
      I think so msuther

      Wha t do you think about canonical issue i have already mention above?
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      • Profile picture of the author chrisbear
        I too am having the same issues. I have a Hostgator Reseller Account, One of my accounts seem's to be fine, but the other account I host my sites on has about 10 add on domains and everyone of them including the main domain was affected.

        Sites were not deindexed, and not all had the best of rankings. A few sites did though and if I do a search for their main keywords some will show up between pages 7-15 with an odd inner page from the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Guys, some of my sites are gone too, hostgator here, but I don't believe that's the issue, google knows very well we can have many sites. They are making another update for sure.We just have to wait a week and see.

    About what happened to Spencer it's terrible, sad day for all of us.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author NicheSiteLab
    I've noticed a similar issue for an authority site I own. was sat solid at the 20s for months, and then suddenly just disappeared.

    still indexed, but getting no Google traffic now. still ranked top in Bing so getting visits from them.

    site hosted on a personal vps, other sites on the vps remain unaffected.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    I have a feeling that if we knew or saw some of these URL's that were removed, and those that were removed revealed their true SEO strategy, it would be pretty evident as to why the sites lost ranking.

    Before you go blame Google or Hostgator...go look in the mirror. Think about it, if shared hosting didn't exist, there would be more servers on the earth hosting websites than there would be people. Get a grip people. Hostgator isn't the problem, Google isn't the problem. Trying to game Google for minimum effort and maximum reward seems to be the root of the problem here.
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    • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
      I think my sites were good enough to pass a manual review. They had been rank #1-3 for 6+ months with nearly no link building... And with Kws over 30,000 exacts/month, they probably had several manual reviews.

      The ONLY thing is common with all my sites that have disappeared, is they were hosted on SEO Hosting IP servers... All my sites on HG biz shared... HG dedicated... Green geeks... all other HG & non-HG servers were not affected.

      So... Sorry to say buddy, I think it's something to do with Hostgator.

      Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

      I have a feeling that if we knew or saw some of these URL's that were removed, and those that were removed revealed their true SEO strategy, it would be pretty evident as to why the sites lost ranking.

      Before you go blame Google or Hostgator...go look in the mirror. Think about it, if shared hosting didn't exist, there would be more servers on the earth hosting websites than there would be people. Get a grip people. Hostgator isn't the problem, Google isn't the problem. Trying to game Google for minimum effort and maximum reward seems to be the root of the problem here.
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    • Profile picture of the author msuther
      theseoguys: I think you are missing the point. People are not saying that Google tossed domains that are on shared hosting out of the SERP's. The issue it seems is that if 50 addon domains were on a shared hosting account, and google thought that 2 or 3 needed to be tossed, then you could swallow this. BUT it appears that their "program" has a glitch. Instead of tossing the 2 or 3 bad sites, they tossed all of the addons within the shared hosting main account. So in this example all 50 addon domains can't be found. All are STILL indexed, but they don't rank as well. I don't think this included other accounts on the same IP, but I know it included all the addon domains within one account.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    lots of sites getting de-indexed... I am not so sure this is a great business model
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Originally Posted by JoshN View Post

      lots of sites getting de-indexed... I am not so sure this is a great business model
      No it isn't. No one will believe it, let alone bother, until they get hit. As the people getting hit increase, the realization should also increase. By the end of this year, I'm pretty sure the landscape will have changed quite beyond recognition...Lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
    There is no way this is an intentional move on Google's part to knock a whole block of Hostgator shared hosting.... don't be ridiculous. How many sites on that shared IP do you think are legitimate non-IM sites? The vast majority. Google wouldn't just go and take it all out. They either screwed something up big time, or the sites being hit are dodgy link-builders.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dentist
      Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

      There is no way this is an intentional move on Google's part to knock a whole block of Hostgator shared hosting.... don't be ridiculous. How many sites on that shared IP do you think are legitimate non-IM sites? The vast majority. Google wouldn't just go and take it all out. They either screwed something up big time, or the sites being hit are dodgy link-builders.
      I would love to agree with you but just can't. If the Google was the Google that it was most of the time, your comment would make perfect sense but today's Google: They just can do anything that makes no sense anymore. I guess you may have noticed too many different types of complaints from Notice of unnatural links to Banning Adsense accounts to shared IP banning now. A lot of that brings down good websites and moves up some other websites. Not too much to sense on searcher side though. Just a lot to bring panic to IM community.
      To me, Google has become much more aggressive from the time Larry Page took control as the CEO instead of Eric Schmidt. It could be him proving to be a better CEO or it can be their increasing fear of Facebook. No matter which one it is, they don't seem to care about "Do no evil" anymore. Just look at how much new power they have given to Matt Cutts and how excited he is about de-indexing websites. Call it what you want (gaming the system, etc...) but they should know better than that... Meaning they motivated people to do negative SEO, they affected a lot of people with quality websites (There are many bad ones too, no doubt) and they don't improve the user experience at all (I would argue that the recent decisions would make user experience worse.) All that and how they are no evil? and how in Matt Cutts position, you can be excited about all this? Who are you kidding? It is just about showing off that they are not scared when they are and showing off that they are the big boss that controls everything (Well, they may be right for now).
      Anyways, all that being said, I would expect anything to happen from Google in its current form. I wouldn't eliminate any irrational possibility, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Cashflowlife
    I have 75 sites on shared hosting with hostgator, from what I can see so far just two were knocked out of top 100 in the last couple days.

    Sucks when your in the rental business, but that's the battleground we play on. I am still getting traffic from other sources but certainly not being in Google SERPS affects incoming calls to the company renting the site.

    *edit- I stand corrected, after a thorough check, 6 of my 70'ish sites are gone from top 100 now, but oddly on some of the sites a few keywords remained in top 100, but all the primary keywords were yanked. If they do not bounce back in a week or so, I guess I am about to lose a few clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author r97584
    I have hostgator. I have four websites 3 of them on their own accounts, one is an addon. There are really three sites that I am concerned about, one is just a hobby.

    Site 1: no SEO ever done about 5 five years old is unaffected and on its own domain. Ranking well.

    Site 2: quality SEO done, good design, etc., was on page 2 for keywords, went to page 3 then 4 now on page 3. All within the last 16 hours or so. It is the addon domain from the hobby site. about 6-8 months old.

    Site 3: About 5 months old. Good design, quality seo, etc. went from page 2 to nowhere to be seen to page 4 to nowhere to be seen back to page 4. That is my main money site and it has been a scary 16-18 hours.

    All of them hosted on hostgator. Either baby or hatchling plans. I don't know if one thing hast to with another. For now I just sitting tight. I think it is too early to tell if it has anything to with hosting or not.

    Looks like it is going to be a bumpy ride.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    If you use GWT, Did you get any messages?
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  • Profile picture of the author r97584
    I don't know if the GWT question was for me, but yes I use it. But like the song goes" No messages, no lets talk it over, goodbye says it all"
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  • Profile picture of the author nemesis81
    Yes, i use the GWT , but no message received for now.
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  • Profile picture of the author mocca
    So some of you also got the message:

    Google Webmaster Tools: Quality Issues on http://blablawebsite
    April 15, 2012
    Dear site owner or webmaster of http://blablawebsite,
    We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.
    Sincerely,
    Google Search Quality Team

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    These sites have been completely deindexed.

    But then so were most of my other sites.

    I have about 200 sites - a mix of sites, about 10 or so affiliate sites, about 80 in a big blog network, and about 30 adsense sites.

    Almost none of them are in Google Webmaster tools, but about 90% of them were deindexed yesterday.

    And 3 of my client sites that I haven't done any SEO for, for about 3 years now, were also deindexed (they were in my webmaster tools and received that message).

    I just have this fat feeling that Google has to have some way of tying these sites together but for the life of me I cannot figure out how.

    Some had no SEO done to them, but were part of blog networks
    Some had no SEO done to them, but had auto-scraped content (yes, bad idea, I realised this a while ago but were just too lazy to go and fix these sites - they were low investment/low income in any case so no great loss here)
    Some had no SEO done to them apart from some old-fashioned article marketing (submission to Ezinearticles and a couple of others - by hand a couple of years ago). One or two of these are actual business websites or owner run websites with good solid content and site structures.
    Some had BMR done to them and first got the 'unnatural links' warning with a penalty (I wanted to wait this out) and a week later the 'low quality and your site is deindexed' warning.

    Some, despite being a combination of all of these above, were NOT deindexed.
    Most were on different servers, different IPs (and just for those thinking it is hostgator - a lot of these were on hostgator, but some of the hostgator accounts were NOT deindexed. A lot were on other, random hosts, also on an SEO host with different C-class IPs, but once again, some were not affected). The whois might be the same with regards to the registrant name and email, but then, some (admittedly the small minority) were different...Most used at least the same registrant email

    The funny thing is, I am doing SEO for about 70 clients - none of these were deindexed or dropped (YET!!!), only MY sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by mocca View Post

      So some of you also got the message:

      Google Webmaster Tools: Quality Issues on http://blablawebsite
      April 15, 2012
      Dear site owner or webmaster of http://blablawebsite,
      We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.
      Sincerely,
      Google Search Quality Team

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      These sites have been completely deindexed.

      But then so were most of my other sites.

      I have about 200 sites - a mix of sites, about 10 or so affiliate sites, about 80 in a big blog network, and about 30 adsense sites.

      Almost none of them are in Google Webmaster tools, but about 90% of them were deindexed yesterday.

      And 3 of my client sites that I haven't done any SEO for, for about 3 years now, were also deindexed (they were in my webmaster tools and received that message).

      I just have this fat feeling that Google has to have some way of tying these sites together but for the life of me I cannot figure out how.

      Some had no SEO done to them, but were part of blog networks
      Some had no SEO done to them, but had auto-scraped content (yes, bad idea, I realised this a while ago but were just too lazy to go and fix these sites - they were low investment/low income in any case so no great loss here)
      Some had no SEO done to them apart from some old-fashioned article marketing (submission to Ezinearticles and a couple of others - by hand a couple of years ago). One or two of these are actual business websites or owner run websites with good solid content and site structures.
      Some had BMR done to them and first got the 'unnatural links' warning with a penalty (I wanted to wait this out) and a week later the 'low quality and your site is deindexed' warning.

      Some, despite being a combination of all of these above, were NOT deindexed.
      Most were on different servers, different IPs (and just for those thinking it is hostgator - a lot of these were on hostgator, but some of the hostgator accounts were NOT deindexed. A lot were on other, random hosts, also on an SEO host with different C-class IPs, but once again, some were not affected). The whois might be the same with regards to the registrant name and email, but then, some (admittedly the small minority) were different...Most used at least the same registrant email

      The funny thing is, I am doing SEO for about 70 clients - none of these were deindexed or dropped (YET!!!), only MY sites.
      Great post above!

      What are you going to do?
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    • Profile picture of the author andygoal
      Originally Posted by mocca View Post

      So some of you also got the message:

      Google Webmaster Tools: Quality Issues on http://blablawebsite
      April 15, 2012
      Dear site owner or webmaster of http://blablawebsite,
      We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.
      Sincerely,
      Google Search Quality Team

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      These sites have been completely deindexed.

      But then so were most of my other sites.

      I have about 200 sites - a mix of sites, about 10 or so affiliate sites, about 80 in a big blog network, and about 30 adsense sites.

      Almost none of them are in Google Webmaster tools, but about 90% of them were deindexed yesterday.

      And 3 of my client sites that I haven't done any SEO for, for about 3 years now, were also deindexed (they were in my webmaster tools and received that message).

      I just have this fat feeling that Google has to have some way of tying these sites together but for the life of me I cannot figure out how.

      Some had no SEO done to them, but were part of blog networks
      Some had no SEO done to them, but had auto-scraped content (yes, bad idea, I realised this a while ago but were just too lazy to go and fix these sites - they were low investment/low income in any case so no great loss here)
      Some had no SEO done to them apart from some old-fashioned article marketing (submission to Ezinearticles and a couple of others - by hand a couple of years ago). One or two of these are actual business websites or owner run websites with good solid content and site structures.
      Some had BMR done to them and first got the 'unnatural links' warning with a penalty (I wanted to wait this out) and a week later the 'low quality and your site is deindexed' warning.

      Some, despite being a combination of all of these above, were NOT deindexed.
      Most were on different servers, different IPs (and just for those thinking it is hostgator - a lot of these were on hostgator, but some of the hostgator accounts were NOT deindexed. A lot were on other, random hosts, also on an SEO host with different C-class IPs, but once again, some were not affected). The whois might be the same with regards to the registrant name and email, but then, some (admittedly the small minority) were different...Most used at least the same registrant email

      The funny thing is, I am doing SEO for about 70 clients - none of these were deindexed or dropped (YET!!!), only MY sites.
      Great Post Above!

      What are you going to do? -
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom L
        This one does seem a bit random... look on the Google webmaster forum. Old businesses, new businesses, authority, niche, updating often, static... etc...

        The answers there are insane though.... Google dance, Google honeymoon period, over-optimized, under-optimized, duplicate content... etc..

        Over the last few weeks I have seen many of my test sites disappear and then come back a few days later. 16 hours ago this did happen to one of my more important sites but since my backlinking is very similar... the choice is quite random.

        The one thing that I can recommend is this... type in your site in the google search "domain.com" (without quotes)

        If it shows up as #1 than it will very likely be back without a problem

        If its in #2-3 then it has to do with your anchor text... so create a few hundred links with the actual URL as the anchor and drip it

        It its not showing up at all... you got a penalty

        Regards,

        TomL
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  • Profile picture of the author HAFMAR
    the same problem here
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I am almost sure that this problem is happened for websites that are hosted on some shared servers of Hostgator. Its rare but it seems that only Hostgator users have this problem. I suggest to contact their support team and telling the issue. Its very strange for me!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by socialbookmark View Post

      I am almost sure that this problem is happened for websites that are hosted on some shared servers of Hostgator. Its rare but it seems that only Hostgator users have this problem. I suggest to contact their support team and telling the issue. Its very strange for me!!
      I use one.com and I have the same problem
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  • Profile picture of the author bboyspyder
    Is anybody on GoDaddy affected?

    To me it looks like a glitch or a big mistake made by someone. Results both from WarriorForum and other SEO forums - lets say mostly blackhat - vary way too much. Some have used backlinking services, some have not, some were big authority sites, some had crap content. It seems way to random to be a big update by G.

    I am not sure I can post it but
    hxxp://blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/431170-sites-gone-google-update-wtf-7.html
    The thread over there is around 7 pages and they started doing a survey to gather data so they can figure out some kind of pattern.
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  • Profile picture of the author successproducts
    Did you guy get an email from someone who is asking to place link on your site? I don't know if they are related issues but it seems that if you had said "yes" your site is probably going to be either deindex and/or gone off the chart.

    I know how you feel about this but I feel Google is sick of having their database mess up by Internet marketers (yeah us) ...If it is my search engine I really want to do the same too. But you know ... how else you get indexed the normal way? If a someone who is willing to put in the time and the cost they should get rewarded FOR AS LONG AS their content is top notch .. really what is wrong with it?

    but I guess I am not Google --humm
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  • Profile picture of the author Built Web Design
    Originally Posted by andygoal View Post

    I have about 20 websites.
    A few hours ago all my websites (except one website) Disappeared from Google Serp (when I type keywords in google they are not is results at all).

    I use Hostgator Baby Website Plan (1 primary domain and 19 add-on domains) for my websites. Only one website (it's an add-on domain) is still in serp.

    I have not changed anything. People say it's a Google Dance, but dance with all my websites? - Strange!

    All the websites can be seen in google if i write the whole domain name wwwdotmywebsitedotcom. I cant see them even if i type wwwdotmywebsite (space here) dotcom

    Any experience, suggestions, advices will be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
    Same exact thing happened to me yesterday. All of my website's on my shared hosting plan with 1&1 disappeared off of Google. I am totally fine on Yahoo and Bing. This is really hurting my sites as I run a web design and marketing business and it is very hard for me to justify SEO services when my website homepage doesn't even show up when you type in the name of the website itself. It's a joke. The good news is that I have not been deindexed, I am just not in the SERPS. I hope that this fixes itself soon because I am losing alot of traffic and business.
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    • Profile picture of the author markethacker
      Shared hosting accounts seem to be affected. I suspect that Google is banning server IPs now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by Built Web Design View Post

      Same exact thing happened to me yesterday. All of my website's on my shared hosting plan with 1&1 disappeared off of Google. I am totally fine on Yahoo and Bing. This is really hurting my sites as I run a web design and marketing business and it is very hard for me to justify SEO services when my website homepage doesn't even show up when you type in the name of the website itself. It's a joke. The good news is that I have not been deindexed, I am just not in the SERPS. I hope that this fixes itself soon because I am losing alot of traffic and business.
      I have the exact same problem. This is bad for business!

      I have checked my Webmaster Tool and I haven't got any messages from Google about what have happend.. so I'm still in the dark about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      When I type in my exact domain name on Google, it's the first result. However, my website cannot be reached by any search words, not even very long tail ones. My site is on hostgator shared hosting, but another smaller site of mine (on the same account) doesn't seem to be affected. Is this a glitch? Will the rankings come back?

      I'm currently building a new website (on a different hosting account) and I don't want to put up 50 pages of unique content and then get the axe again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Morten V
        Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

        When I type in my exact domain name on Google, it's the first result. However, my website cannot be reached by any search words, not even very long tail ones. My site is on hostgator shared hosting, but another smaller site of mine (on the same account) doesn't seem to be affected. Is this a glitch? Will the rankings come back?

        I'm currently building a new website (on a different hosting account) and I don't want to put up 50 pages of unique content and then get the axe again.
        It's not hostgators fault, believe me, this is happening all over the world now. The G Monster is worldwide and hurting everyone. I have my site hosted by ONE.com and I got the bitch slap yesterday, and it's also a norwegian blog.
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        • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
          Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

          It's not hostgators fault, believe me, this is happening all over the world now. The G Monster is worldwide and hurting everyone. I have my site hosted by ONE.com and I got the bitch slap yesterday, and it's also a norwegian blog.
          I don't believe it is a hostgator problem.

          I actually had something similar happen to this site in February. I lost all traffic for about 10 days and then it came back stronger. At the time, I figured that they probably flagged me for a manual review, saw my content was good and then put me back in the search results.

          My website was getting about 250-300 unique visitors daily until a few days ago. Almost all of my traffic was coming from long tail keywords and sentences typed into the search. I have 40 articles on the site, ranging from 800 words to 8500 words. All of the content is unique, written by me and run through Copyscape. I don't over-optimize. I'm so new at this that I really don't even know how. I don't use any SEO plug-ins. I just write good content. I only did a little backlinking on the site. I used BMR for about 3 weeks. I stopped using BMR about a month before they closed. And I answered a few questions on Yahoo answers with my personal account (which is many years old).

          It's just really frustrating and makes me wonder if I should continue making new sites. It's very stressful thinking that I could spend months writing quality content and Google can take away your whole business any time they want.

          I don't know if this website is now forever tainted by the BMR links (there weren't very many, less than a 100 BMR links). I'm not sure if I should just pull off all of my content and start over with a fresh domain and new site. When I used BMR, the website had only 10 articles. I've added 30 articles since then.

          I was getting over 300 impressions on Adsense daily from this site. Today, I've had 3! It's unbelievable. I was finally seeing some success for my 8 months of work and then this happens.

          I'm still hoping that it's just a glitch. I guess all I can do right now is work on my new websites and hope this one recovers soon. One thing is for sure, I'm never doing any backlinking to any of my future sites.

          I've read on a few forums that some sites that disappeared on Google in the past few days had no backlinking done to them. This is really troubling. I can accept that I made a fatal mistake by briefly using BMR on my site, but what if I make new sites and don't backlink and Google destroys them as well? I can deal with losing this site forever because I made a mistake. Live and learn. However, if it keeps happening to new sites, I don't know what I'd do. I'm trying to make good authority sites with a lot of good content that helps the reader.

          When I first started building this site (in the depression niche), I only wanted to make money. But then I saw some of the desperate questions that people typed in the search engine to find my site and I wanted to help them with good answers and information. So I made sure that each article was meticulously researched and provided great information. That's why some of my articles ended up being 1000's of words in length.

          I guess I'm really paranoid right now. Maybe I should stop reading threads about this for a while. I'm also worried about the possibility of negative SEO being done on my new sites.
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          • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post


            I guess I'm really paranoid right now.
            Don't worry about it.

            As I posted before, with a site of that quality, do not fret.

            Many, many, many people don't even get most of their traffic from Google anyway, like me. And there a lot of posts on this forum about getting traffic other ways other than SEO so search this forum for them.

            Here is just one good one but there are many others.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ernatives.html

            Also, as I posted before, do this..

            I definitely would not just give up a site that had that much value.

            Check your site here to see what Google has to say about it:

            https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en

            Then go to this site and read through what Google wants and make the necessary changes and then at the very bottom of the page (after you've done any needed repairs) click on the ask for reconsideration.

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          • Profile picture of the author Morten V
            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

            I was getting over 300 impressions on Adsense daily from this site. Today, I've had 3! It's unbelievable. I was finally seeing some success for my 8 months of work and then this happens.
            Me to, I finally saw some $ after months of hard work.

            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

            I'm still hoping that it's just a glitch.
            Lets hope so..
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            • Profile picture of the author Cashflowlife
              Originally I had 6 drop from the Serps of 75 sites, that then went to 8, this was all in the last 24 hours.

              However, Right Now I just scanned all 8 again and guess what... They are all back at same or better rankings already... So I have no idea WTF is going on but it certainly got my attention. All of my sites are on a Hostgator shared reseller account, and as of 5 minutes ago Rank Checker along with a visual non-cached check confirmed they were back where they were prior to this oddness.

              You tell me, because I am clueless...:confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author Morten V
                I would like to share with you all as I read the last post here I go check the SERPs, my site is back in rankings and it looks like it came back stronger..
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          • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
            STOP FRETTING

            If your site isn't written for serps, is written to inform and give the reader what they need it will be back.

            Yes you may lose out on some income while this happens, and for those earning a trickle it's harder.

            For those earning more than a trickle, you should already have other income streams in place.

            Anyhow... DO NOT FRET if you have quality content, and no unnatural links message. Your sites will be back. CHILL.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

        When I type in my exact domain name on Google, it's the first result. However, my website cannot be reached by any search words, not even very long tail ones. My site is on hostgator shared hosting, but another smaller site of mine (on the same account) doesn't seem to be affected. Is this a glitch? Will the rankings come back?

        I'm currently building a new website (on a different hosting account) and I don't want to put up 50 pages of unique content and then get the axe again.
        I definitely would not just give up a site that had that much value.

        Check your site here to see what Google has to say about it:

        https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en

        Then go to this site and read through what Google wants and make the necessary changes and then at the very bottom of the page (after you've done any needed repairs) click on the ask for reconsideration.

        Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help
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        Guaranteed 60% Opt In Rate Traffic-Real People-Fresh Today-High Quality Biz Opp traffic![/URL]
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Yeah I read something about banning server IP too...
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  • Profile picture of the author kalens99
    I have a site that was ranking on page 6 for an extremely competitive keyword yeserday. Thought I could be on page one in a couple months. Today the homepage isn't anywhere in the top 1000 results. Another page on the site ranks on page 33. I am still ranking well for other keywords I didn't optimize for much. Could this be the overoptimization penalty matt cutts let slip a couple weeks ago?
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  • Profile picture of the author SomedayMaybe
    Is it possible that WordPress(org) is the common denominator? I know there must be lots of WordPress sites that haven't been hit (yet), but the self-hosted variety must be miles more popular in IM circles than anywhere else. I imagine hobby bloggers would be happy to save the cost and (to their minds at least) techie traumas of hosting and be content enough with the WordPress(com) variety.

    I'm not entirely suggesting that Google might be actively penalising WordPress(org) sites, but perhaps they're withdrawing the boost that they almost automatically gave them at one time.

    Other than that, I can't see any rhyme or reason to it all either.
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  • Profile picture of the author attorneydavid
    all mine appear to have resumed prior rankings. weird
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  • Profile picture of the author nemesis81
    Fiuuuu, all my website come back to their original positions.

    i find a lot of discussion today in the google webmaster forum, and the problem was the shared hosting account:

    https://groups.google.com/a/googlepr...c/y4ck-Zz9GGAJ

    Google problem, not ours.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    Yes. it seems that all websites are ranking well again and it is reported by webmaster in different threads made for this issue. It was a small update or testing by Google and now it is fixed
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  • Profile picture of the author hocuspocus32
    I just had two sites which where ranking in top 10 for 10 keywords lost there rankings between april 14 and april 17th, Today morning one of my sites is back to where it was, but one is still no where. Its an EMD (BOTH) , and i dont think Google is penalizing or anything, sites will bounce back, its just the site has reacted to the new algo changes that G made. One of mine is back and I hope to see the 2nd one also back soon, it was at rank 1.

    I have not used BMR,ALN or any other stuff like that in any of these sites

    Both are hosted in hostgator as well
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  • Profile picture of the author mocca
    Just again, for those people that think it is their hosting, it is not (and for those who think this was a temporary glitch and everything is back to normal, it is not).

    There is a difference between not showing in the rankings and being dropped from the index (deindexed). A lot of people here only had a temporary drop in rankings - and it looks as if they are back now. My sites have been DEINDEXED and are still deindexed today. How I wish it was a temporary glitch!

    Based on my experience I am starting to think, although it is really difficult to say for certain, that it is a case of 'guilty by association'.

    I am saying this because I had 90% of MY sites deindexed - this is about 190 sites out of 200. These sites were spread all over various hosting networks.

    If you find that all your sites on a specific hosting server had been deindexed, then it is probably a case of Google using the hosting server whois to find the other sites on that server, but then checking to see if it can find a link between the sites (e.g. similar whois details, links from similar sites etc).

    This is not an automated thing, this is manual.

    For JeanneLynn therefore, I would suggest that if you start building a new site, put it on a different hosting server and use different registration details.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by mocca View Post

      There is a difference between not showing in the rankings and being dropped from the index (deindexed). A lot of people here only had a temporary drop in rankings - and it looks as if they are back now. My sites have been DEINDEXED and are still deindexed today. How I wish it was a temporary glitch!
      If your sites have been deindexed it's probably not coming back for a while and it's not the same problem as many have stated where their sites have still been indexed but dropped in ranking.

      If your site is deindexed I would suggest wait a week or so, if nothing happens start rebuilding the page by adding new uniqe content, change the keywords a little bit, change pictures etc. then you submit it to reconsideration.

      As TopKat22 wrote; Check your site here to see what Google has to say about it:

      https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en

      Then go to this site and read through what Google wants and make the necessary changes and then at the very bottom of the page (after you've done any needed repairs) click on the ask for reconsideration.

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      Originally Posted by mocca View Post

      If you find that all your sites on a specific hosting server had been deindexed, then it is probably a case of Google using the hosting server whois to find the other sites on that server, but then checking to see if it can find a link between the sites (e.g. similar whois details, links from similar sites etc).

      This is not an automated thing, this is manual.

      For JeanneLynn therefore, I would suggest that if you start building a new site, put it on a different hosting server and use different registration details.
      I highly doubt Google is targeting hosting servers.
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      • Profile picture of the author mocca
        Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

        If your sites have been deindexed it's probably not coming back for a while and it's not the same problem as many have stated where their sites have still been indexed but dropped in ranking.

        If your site is deindexed I would suggest wait a week or so, if nothing happens start rebuilding the page by adding new uniqe content, change the keywords a little bit, change pictures etc. then you submit it to reconsideration.

        As TopKat22 wrote; Check your site here to see what Google has to say about it:

        https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en

        Then go to this site and read through what Google wants and make the necessary changes and then at the very bottom of the page (after you've done any needed repairs) click on the ask for reconsideration.

        Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help



        I highly doubt Google is targeting hosting servers.
        I don't think Google is targeting hosting servers, but they are targeting individuals. After a few days of scratching my head and trying to find a pattern, I have come to the conclusion that Google has deindexed my site as well as most of my other websites, as well as a few innocent hosting/web design client sites, based on the following:
        1. I used BMR to promote my main business website.
        2. They picked up my main business website and checked out the whois details
        3. I got an webmaster email about unnatural links, which I ignored.
        4. A week later, I got a message in Google webmaster saying : Google webmaster has picked up a quality problem with your site... This was on my main business website as well as a couple of client sites that I had in Webmaster.
        5. When I checked, 90% of the websites associated with my whois has disappeared. These domains were all registered under the same name, same registrar.

        I understand that Google is a registrar and has access to all registar info through APIs (and I understand that is how BMR got taken down).

        So basically, two things:
        1. If you ARE doing any link building at all or using any of the blog networks, hide your registration info as much as possible although frankly by now it is too little too late since the registrar info goes back a long way.
        2. Do not think you are safe because nothing has happened to you yet. I have been doing this for 5 years and nothing had happened, just great rankings for myself and my clients and I had built a business offering web design, web hosting and SEO services to off-line clients in my country, I employ 5 people doing this. Now, my whole business and the livelyhoods of these people are all at risk since I am not sure how I am going to recover from this disaster.
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    it seems google begin its penalty now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel J
    really interesting thread. Seems nobody has "figured it out" yet (including me) I, like most others had my sites drop completely out of the SERPS (not de-indexed though). I use hostgator and have mostly EMDs. I'm sure we'll be hearing something from Google soon about their "latest updated" and it will all make sense. Also, all of my sites seem to be fine now. Strange...
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  • Profile picture of the author daweelmac
    Same thing happened to two of mt sites. They are ranking very well in first pages then it suddenly dropped to page 5. Received a message from my webmaster tools account. Making necessary changes now and I pray google will reconsider my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Yep...seems like they are up to something again.

    I think it is important to not and all should realize we shouldn't be putting our business in the hands of google. No matter how good we "think" our sites our, they can take us out with their search engine traffic with a simple algo shift.

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  • Profile picture of the author kalens99
    I just checked my SERPs the day after I first posted and I was ranking even higher for my keyword than before. I went from page 7, to not ranking and then up to page 6 for my most competive keyword. Other words are still on page 1 or 2. did you guys see the same thing? Was this a 24 hour penalty maybe?
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by kalens99 View Post

      I just checked my SERPs the day after I first posted and I was ranking even higher for my keyword than before. I went from page 7, to not ranking and then up to page 6 for my most competive keyword. Other words are still on page 1 or 2. did you guys see the same thing? Was this a 24 hour penalty maybe?
      I don't think it's a 24 hour penalty. Many of us have been dealing with it for almost a week. Some people have had their rankings restored, only to get tossed out again a few hours or a day later.

      I'm sure Google will brag about what they've done soon and we'll all know the truth.

      There have been a lot of angry people on the webmaster forums. Some of the sites that are affected are really good ones. Aged and full of good content. I can't imagine why Google would want to hit some of these sites as they provide a good visitor experience.

      I still keep hoping that it is some sort of glitch. However, my site has been gone for almost a week so I'm giving up hope that it will have a recovery It's not deindexed; it's just no where in the Google SERPs. My site is in position 4 on Yahoo and position 3 on Bing, so it's something with Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author NeuralSync
    Has anyone noticed their videos being de-indexed?

    I had 4 videos that had just shown up in Google page 2 and 3 last week - and several were on page 1 of the video section - and they completely disappeared a few days ago from the SERPs. They are still on YouTube (in fact I just reached PR2 for my channel) but don't come up for my keyword at all. They are quality videos too, 10 minute demonstrations of my entrainment technology, not commercials or Animoto.

    I'm tired of Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevo235
    Patience is key the first site i made pulled a disappearing act after getting to page 3 for the main keyword. I already knew about the google dance but when it happened I was still obsessing over it. Long story short the site came back two weeks like at the top of page 2 and I wish I didn't waste so much time looking for information about it and just kept working.
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  • Profile picture of the author shane ny
    fyi - in case people still think its a hosting company being targeted (hostgator)... I dont think so, im using lunarpages and have had the same issues... a few of my EMDs dropped from #1 down to 5 and beyound... no money from them at all now. freakin sux. yet another emd is staying on top (but that site has lots of pages etc).
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  • Profile picture of the author ferriswannabe
    All my sites were on 1 & 1 hosting, since hostgator is more popular, your gonna hear more on them, then other hosts.

    All my sites are back by the way, lost a lot of high rankings. Main keyword still ranks, but almost all secondary keywords took a dive.
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  • Profile picture of the author 007oo7
    Very frustrating but not suprising with google! I am on different servers along with local web clients and global projects, varied sites of different quality and backlink quality... My point is I cannot find a pattern to this what so ever. Half of my sites suffer including high quality local sites with no, to little backlinks?!

    I am also finding this is going in phases. I had about a third of my sites suffer a few weeks ago of which 90% have returned! oddly enough, my backlink site is stronger than ever for good keywords, but another highly competative site is showing messages in GWT and has dropped back in serps for the keywords. Now I have just seen another wave cutting through other sites and some of the same ones as before.

    Video search is also suffering but this links me to UAW. I use UAW on some of my sites(about a third) and the videos which I attach to the articles and backlinking for keywords are jumping all over the place. Again, a mixed bag as some of these sites suffer and others dont.

    I have worked at website design sinse 2000 and have done a lot of manual backlinking myself aswell as trying other methods. I would like to think I have stuck to the rules with just testing methods here and there, which maybe I shouldnt. However, over all, I am struggling to find a pattern as my next wave of sites are hit.

    Kinda makes me look like an a** when a local client is paying me monthly and his site drops

    I see a lot of posts above are good news of sites coming back. Would love to know if others are seeing another wave as I am or have any other updates.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheCondor
    One of my sites has just vanished overnight after ranking in the first 3 in google for 2 years. I can't find it anywhere unless I type the whole URL in, doesn't rank at all for any of its keywords. No Webmaster messages and not deindexed. Hosting is a Hostgator Reseller, but the other sites are ok. So there is another wave Hope it comes back soon
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  • Profile picture of the author gchagasteam
    That happened to me also... My site was ranking #1 for it's main keyword and is gone! Still indexed for all ten pages, but way back on the line.
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  • Profile picture of the author claytonvox
    It is very confusing. I have a few sites and I've done different off page SEO as well as on page. However, I have one site which I have used a lot of backlinking strategies and another which hasn't any. Both have lost their page 1 status and can't be found. Yes, they are still indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author vkonnect
    Most of the sites banned due to hidden links on sites and incoming links from adult sites,better solution is that you build your sites from the scratch..
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  • Profile picture of the author 007oo7
    Ok, so a few of my sites are safe. I can pin point my errors as the one thing all of the sites which were effected shared were some cheap links from fiverr. I only try them out every so often and dont go mad with them but it seems this time i got outa luck. I know this because I build all my sites from my very own html template which is built without any dirty or loose coding! Search engines love them and for local biz they rank very high without any extra backlinks. However, one site I built in exactly the same way had only one set of backlinks I got from fiverr and this was the same gig I did throughout my slapped sites. I generally stick to the straight and narrow but we all learn I suppose.

    Even more of a concern though! I just got my main biz hub site stable and discovered today that somebody had just added over 800 backlinks to it! I have not done this for a while now and dont know where they came from, hmmmm! are we going to see people trying to damage others now? not sure how Google will deal with this, I will keep an eye on things and update you guys on progress(if your interested )
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    • Profile picture of the author reggieSEOkray
      We had 3 sites on 3 different Host Gator business plans that dropped out of google.

      We found an issue on all 3 sites that may have caused google to drop us out of the results for large numbers of keywords.

      I dont know if this problem affects all host gator sites or whether our site was set up wrong on all 3 occasions but its worth checking your host gator site.

      Basically the mail server mail.yourdomain.com was displaying a duplicate version of the website www dot yourdomain.com all the mail.yourdomain.com pages were being indexed by google. Contacted host gator who then disabled mail.yourdomain.com for us. We have now started to show back up in search results for the words we were completely removed for.
      You can then use webmail.yourdomain.com as the mail server instead.
      Host gator couldn't actually provide us with an answer as to why this happened in the first place. But its worth checking yours.
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