My site was ranking on position 3 with no backlinks and after purchasing backlinks it drop!!

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Hi warrior.

Ok so I have a new website maybe about 4 to 5 months old.

It was ranking on position 3 in google for about 3 1/2 months consistently.
Sometimes it would even jump to position 2. I was starting to make about 1 to 2 dollars per day with adsense. Is not much but at least it was working.

I know getting position 1 in google was going to be easy as I analize the seo competition with market samurai an position 1 had only 8 backlinks, a PR0, no dmoz or yahoo directory, 0 edu and gov backlinks, age domain 0, and the keyword is not in the title,description, url and head.

Now my site, for my keyword has a domain age of 4 months, so is just like position 1, less than 1 year old, 67 backlinks, 5 edu backlinks, is also not in the yahoo or dmoz directory, but the keyword is in the title, description, url and head.

Now I said earlier that my site was ranking on position 2 and 3 with no backlinks at all as this site was new and is still is.

Here is the thing. I purchased a backlink package from the warrior for hire section, I am not going to say the person name, but he has about 1935 replies and has alot and I mean alot of great testimonials. So I decided to purchased his seo backlink package and ever since that my site started doing the google dance.

The problem is that my site finally settle and has been on page 25 for over a month now. I asked him for a refund and he did that.

My point is, why is my site now on page 25? It is not doing the google dance anymore. It has just been there and I do not understand why is it that my site was ranking great with no backlinks at all, and now that all of this backlinks have been added by this warrior, my site is now on page 25 everyday for a little bit over a month.

I don't get it.

How can I get my site back to page 1.

Can someone please help me and can maybe analize my site and my backlinks?


Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Sounds like low quality links to me.

    Are they profile links? If so, stop building those types of links & get higher PR related links.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeadStartSEO
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Sounds like low quality links to me.

      Are they profile links? If so, stop building those types of links & get higher PR related links.
      Like Yukon said, I suspect these are low quality links. When I first started SEO and played the niche site game, quite a few of my sites tanked for the same reason -- I wanted an small boost in rankings for a few bucks on Fiverr. I definitely regret those decisions but I learned quickly and held on to my clean sites all the more dearly.
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  • Profile picture of the author awarum
    My only guess is Google is aware of the network and when noticed the links, the system detected those links are unnatural. You can wait and see what happens.

    You shouldn't try to fix something when it's not broken. If you were ranking 1st, why did you get a backlinks package?
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      No I was not ranking first. Orginally my site was on position3 and sometimes it jump to position 2. It was fluctuating. I purchased this because after analizing my competition which was the website on position 1 with market samurai, I thought that maybe after purchasing a few high pr backliknks from the reputable warrior that my site was going to jump to position 1.

      But as a result it ended in page 25. I don't know the strategy to get my site back to position 2 or 3 now??
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      • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
        Now is on page 24?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    What type of links were they? What anchor text did they use? How many links? Was it a daily service? Were there any ads on the site? What was the bounce rate? Quite a few details to consider when something like this happens. Answer those questions and I can tell you more about what could have happened and what to do to fix it.
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      Originally Posted by Pyramid Linkers View Post

      What type of links were they? What anchor text did they use? How many links? Was it a daily service? Were there any ads on the site? What was the bounce rate? Quite a few details to consider when something like this happens. Answer those questions and I can tell you more about what could have happened and what to do to fix it.
      Hi and thnak you all for trying to help me out.

      Here is the link where I purchased the backlinks to my new site. Well my site is about 4 months old and I said before it was ranking on position 3 or 2 for the first 3 months and ever since i purchased the 25 dollar package being offer at the link above my site has just drop and I am no longer making any adsense money with my site.

      I forgot to mention that I can not share my backlinks because the 25 dollar package doesn't come with a report. Now that I look back, I should of learn my lesson and always purchased only if it comes with a report.

      Anyways, just wanted to let you know.

      One guy has advised me not to used Odesk for seo purposes because he said that their methods are very old and won't be effective.

      Some people like someone is this thread said that 98% percent of warriors that offer backlink packages don't know what they are doing.

      So now I am guessing I have to read an e-book or watch youtube videos and learn how to build manual high pr relevat backlink back to my site.

      This is so confusing. I wish I could find someone who knew what they were doing and I can just give them my url and my keyword I was trying to rank for and he/her could just rank me on the first position, I say first because being on the first page is just not good enough from what I heard some other warriors say.

      Thank you guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author Manuel Aguirre
    Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

    Hi warrior.

    Ok so I have a new website maybe about 4 to 5 months old.

    It was ranking on position 3 in google for about 3 1/2 months consistently.
    Sometimes it would even jump to position 2. I was starting to make about 1 to 2 dollars per day with adsense. Is not much but at least it was working.

    I know getting position 1 in google was going to be easy as I analize the seo competition with market samurai an position 1 had only 8 backlinks, a PR0, no dmoz or yahoo directory, 0 edu and gov backlinks, age domain 0, and the keyword is not in the title,description, url and head.

    Now my site, for my keyword has a domain age of 4 months, so is just like position 1, less than 1 year old, 67 backlinks, 5 edu backlinks, is also not in the yahoo or dmoz directory, but the keyword is in the title, description, url and head.

    Now I said earlier that my site was ranking on position 2 and 3 with no backlinks at all as this site was new and is still is.

    Here is the thing. I purchased a backlink package from the warrior for hire section, I am not going to say the person name, but he has about 1935 replies and has alot and I mean alot of great testimonials. So I decided to purchased his seo backlink package and ever since that my site started doing the google dance.

    The problem is that my site finally settle and has been on page 25 for over a month now. I asked him for a refund and he did that.

    My point is, why is my site now on page 25? It is not doing the google dance anymore. It has just been there and I do not understand why is it that my site was ranking great with no backlinks at all, and now that all of this backlinks have been added by this warrior, my site is now on page 25 everyday for a little bit over a month.

    I don't get it.

    How can I get my site back to page 1.

    Can someone please help me and can maybe analize my site and my backlinks?


    Thank you
    Dont worry buddy!!

    just build more HIGH PR LINKS to your site!! (dont buy cheap links)

    Google will reward you!!

    Regards!!
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    • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
      If all of those links had the same text Google will pick up on it and give you a penalty.

      If you are only getting a couple links a month and you suddenly get 1000 in one day, what did you expect would happen? Google is going to see it and ding you. Need to be a little more subtle with your link building, make it look natural.

      Build new links yourself with a diverse set of anchor text. Something totally different than what was used in that last link blast.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdevpro
    The exact reason is not known but to counterbalance the low quality backlinks (if this is the case) you need to build more quality backlinks better by yourself and in manual way.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnmolJ
    Links Might Have Been From Porn Or Blackhat Site
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  • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
    You bought a backlink package from a warrior - say no more.

    98% of the seo services sold on warrior are complete rubbish. I'm sure some of the good reviews come because people like the number of links created but if the reviews were limited to improved rankings over a long period of time there wouldn't be many good reviews at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevo235
      Yea definitely think quality not quantity with your site at #2 or #3 you seemed like you just needed a few high pr quality backlinks not a big backlink package and you could have been #1.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zibblu
      Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

      You bought a backlink package from a warrior - say no more.

      98% of the seo services sold on warrior are complete rubbish. I'm sure some of the good reviews come because people like the number of links created but if the reviews were limited to improved rankings over a long period of time there wouldn't be many good reviews at all.
      Unfortunately this has been true in my case too... I'm still waiting to give my first positive testimonial... I see so many others... but none of these things have worked for me yet (and I've spent thousands of $$$ on them so far.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaspry
    This is exactly why I am NOT placing ONE backlink to my site for several months, or until I establish a consistent ranking in the SERP. By then, the authority of my domain will be apparent, and I'll personally email owners of higher-PR sites to do guest posting or something to get the high quality, relevant backlinks. I've heard years ago that 1 backlink from a PR 2 is equivalent to 1000 backlinks from a PR1, and 1 from PR3 is equivalent to 1000 PR 2. And it can't just be any backlink, it has to be relevant to your niche sharing similar keywords, all that LSI stuff. It's the only way I'm doing SEO from now on. I've had too many sites crumble in the past from blog commenting, forum posting and profile creation. Don't get into that, you'll save so much more time by getting targeted, relevant, high PR backlinks!
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    I've had sites disappear for weeks and sometimes a month or two after buying backlinks. The last site I had it happen on (until today) was probably on page 5, got a AMR gig from fiverr and the site disappeared for a couple of months at least. Generally you hear about to keep adding new content, backlinks etc but I just leave them and I mean leave them, don't do a thing and now it's on page one for about 3 weeks. Now I'll add some more backlinks to it.

    I bought a backlink package for another site about 3 weeks back and the site recently moved from page 2 to #5 page one for a few days and today has disappeared to the very last page, as they do. I will just leave it, won't do a thing and it will come back eventually, hopefully higher. I'll let it sit and see what happens and then add some more backlinks. Of course I don't just wait around, I get on and put up other sites or whatever, but what I'm saying is I wouldn't worry about it too much, just let Google take its course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    Based on the offer and what you've said, it looks like you built too many links to your webpage at one time. The site will likely come back but you should definitely continue to build links at a more gradual pace. As far being confused, that's unfortunately part of the process. Continue to educate yourself, test your theories and trust your gut when outsourcing your link building.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    it seems that the seo service provider give you some cheap quality links. get some high pr links from warrior reciprocal link section.
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

      it seems that the seo service provider give you some cheap quality links. get some high pr links from warrior reciprocal link section.

      I never heard of that. What and where is the warrior reciprocal link section?
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  • Profile picture of the author madison75074
    Yes, I've had several sites penalized due to aggressive backlinking. Thankfully I have over 100 sites some of which are used primarily for testing. The sites that I had backlinked heavily were penalized in the recent Google update.
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  • Profile picture of the author atabel
    Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

    Hi warrior.

    Ok so I have a new website maybe about 4 to 5 months old.

    It was ranking on position 3 in google for about 3 1/2 months consistently.
    Sometimes it would even jump to position 2. I was starting to make about 1 to 2 dollars per day with adsense. Is not much but at least it was working.

    I know getting position 1 in google was going to be easy as I analize the seo competition with market samurai an position 1 had only 8 backlinks, a PR0, no dmoz or yahoo directory, 0 edu and gov backlinks, age domain 0, and the keyword is not in the title,description, url and head.

    Now my site, for my keyword has a domain age of 4 months, so is just like position 1, less than 1 year old, 67 backlinks, 5 edu backlinks, is also not in the yahoo or dmoz directory, but the keyword is in the title, description, url and head.

    Now I said earlier that my site was ranking on position 2 and 3 with no backlinks at all as this site was new and is still is.

    Here is the thing. I purchased a backlink package from the warrior for hire section, I am not going to say the person name, but he has about 1935 replies and has alot and I mean alot of great testimonials. So I decided to purchased his seo backlink package and ever since that my site started doing the google dance.

    The problem is that my site finally settle and has been on page 25 for over a month now. I asked him for a refund and he did that.

    My point is, why is my site now on page 25? It is not doing the google dance anymore. It has just been there and I do not understand why is it that my site was ranking great with no backlinks at all, and now that all of this backlinks have been added by this warrior, my site is now on page 25 everyday for a little bit over a month.

    I don't get it.

    How can I get my site back to page 1.

    Can someone please help me and can maybe analize my site and my backlinks?


    Thank you
    Hi!
    As per my views, if your website has lost ranking then it is because of you have done linking swiftly which made the Google so disgusting and fake.
    Now there is only solution you should make High PR link yourself slowly for great output of your websites ranking.

    Thanks!
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    1. Most of the seo services sold in here is crap. So far, I have only seen 1 decent seo service.
    Note: I couldn't be bothered looking at the reviews and all those stuff as those can easily be faked.

    2. Your OnPage SEO. The effectiveness of a service will be directly affected by your onpage seo. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author castello12
    raywarrior1978

    I think buying backlinks or building them manually is easily detectable by the Big G. Same IP is the reason for adverse effects. If you want I can find you a keyword in a desired niche that will not need backlinks to rank for
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  • Profile picture of the author danilion55
    first you should not have purchased links if your site was already on top 3 positions. 2nd he must have blasted lots of links. first check your backlinks through opensieexplorer or majestic seo analyze bad links yourself and use Google disaov tool
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  • Profile picture of the author TuNguyen
    Basically...

    1. Google dance. New site etc
    2. Dont buy cheap links (link blasts)
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  • Profile picture of the author supereek
    here's what happend:

    1. your website hasnt recieved ANY backlinks in the past, google has checked into the relevance of your content vs your keyword and has ranked you organicly (best way of offpageSEO imo, means your content is really good!!)
    2. you purchase backlinks and suddenly your website gets too many links in too less of a time
    3. google sees that and gives you a penalty, not sandbox tho. If you're site gets sandboxed it wont be even found on page +100 in google

    4. what you should've done: make LESS but quality backlinks in a mixed order, for example like:
    10-15 dofollow comments on +PR2 blogs relevant to your niche, 3-5 press releases with unique content, 10-15 forum profiles to relevant niche forums, some social media bookmarkings.

    This seems like next to nothing but it would've done so much for a website already ranked #3 without any offpage SEO. because it would seem natural.
    What you can do now? Perhaps find a way into G tools/analystics to block those links from giving you juice, if it doesn't help you can try this, it worked for me once on a simular case:

    contact google's analystics team due a ticket. say you got blackmailed by some webmaster about selling your niche site to him and if you wouldn't do it he said "i am going to blast your website with trash links so you get sandboxed and banned from adsense" and that he is actually doing this now, help what can i do!? They know a way to stop this. Atleast they did for me.

    goodluck
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    That's the problem with buying SEO. You can "NOT" trust anyone to do backlinking for you because you just don't know if they are making them look natural or not.

    I like to do it myself, guest posting, blog commenting once a while, YouTube videos linking back to pages, Slideshare, Scribd, Issuu, Articlebase, Forums.

    I think these are fairly safe ways as long as they are linking in slightly different anchor texts for your main keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author sheikhakbar
    I can't comment on the service you used and what type of backlinks were made. What I can say, is that building backlinks initially will make your site dance in SERP's. When you start backlinking, you need to plan. Maintain a link velocity which you can manage and be consistent. Gradually increase week on week. I am not talking about how to build backlinks and what type of backlinking strategy is working in 2013. This will be a different question. You cant just hire someone once in a while and expect results. SEO ballgame is more of a long term action rather than trying to hit the bulls eye with one shot. Never happened and will not happen ever....

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author run
    I don't offend the cheap SEO service, but what'd you expect from $25 spent!
    I even add another $25 to guest post on a high PR related blog. I'd do it one by one if my site sits on no. 2 rank with the diversity backlinks types!
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    I just wanna tell you that most of the links in the signature are trash and/or a trap to make you pay!
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    This is the perfect example of why you should never send links to your site directly unless you have full control of them (you can remove them at any time). If you must use spammy links then build a pyramid to shield them from the money site.

    I ALWAYS build Web 2.0s and send backlinks to them. Only if I'm happy with the results do I pass the link juice onto my site. This way I'm in full control of everything and should the worst happen I can remove the Web 2.0 links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    Other thing is too many links in one day or few days, would harm a lot..... link building should be slow to gain the position..
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    for that price, obviously all you got was tons of spammy and low quality links, not surprised why your rankings tanked. I would suggest to ask the SEO guy to remove the links, and wait if ranking go back up again.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Theres always a drop before a rise in ranking position (case studies have shown this even for the strongest sites).

      I am not 100% sure about the service you used , most wf services are sh*t but you should wait around 4-6 weeks to be able to see any decrease or increase and reevaluate.
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  • Profile picture of the author submitinme
    Without the report, it is difficult to find the quality of those backlinks. But there is another thing to consider. Backlink frequency - Google monitors the frequency in which your backlinks are created. If it's faster than normal process, Google may take action. I think this is the problem of your site. Try to talk to those webmasters and have those links removed, disavow the remaining links, and send a detailed reconsideration request. Maybe that will help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    I have always said it's not about quantitiy but it's about quality of the backlinks.
    don't go with the low quality backlinks just to increase the quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author preets
      Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

      I have always said it's not about quantitiy but it's about quality of the backlinks.
      don't go with the low quality backlinks just to increase the quantity.
      Yes , you are absolutely right . Low quality backlinks can decrease your site ranking. Always go for quality not for quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author extremejava
    yes get 3-4 PR5-7 links (better build them manually, nofollow links would also work for ranking). no need to get 100 backlinks package.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Stacy
    You were doing well first and after buying some backlinking package or SEO package, your site went down to page no 24. It definitely means that person built low quality profile links which lead your site into current situation. If you want to get rid of this situation, you should build links at high quality and niche related sites. No overnight solution can be given here.

    It is very very hard to build anything but the easiest to ruin.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    I think Google's penalty for low quality backlinks is really crazy.

    What if a competitor did that favor for you (negative seo)? It's just the same.

    How can google know who paid the bill for the crappy backlinks?
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      disvow tool comes into picture in that case
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