Client wants SEO done.

by jRad
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Where the heck do I start?

I know a little bit about it (on-page seo, backlinks etc), but not much. A client wants me to do SEO for her.

I know SEO is an on-going thing, so I could probably charge her monthly. I also know that I'm not skilled at it, I don't know much about it.

When I type in her company name, she comes up third in Google (I come up first and second cause I use her website in my portfolio). However, when I type in, "homeopathy + city name", her business doesn't come up anywhere. Her sites only been up for about a month now.

I've submitted her site to Google Places but that's it. How do I get her website higher ranked when someone types in for example, "homeopathy + the city name", or "naturopath + city name"?

Any solid tips would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    I'd recommend outsourcing if you don't have a clue what you are doing. Don't take on a job that you don't know you can complete or be successful in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      I'd recommend outsourcing if you don't have a clue what you are doing. Don't take on a job that you don't know you can complete or be successful in.
      No offense but that is terrible advice.

      You shouldn't outsource anything until you are comfortable doing it yourself. That way you can tell if the outsourced SEO is quality work or just an SeNuke blast.

      Regardless, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything related to SEO right now until things settle down with the new update. Maybe submitting her site manually to Digg, Yellow Pages, etc but nothing too risky.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

        No offense but that is terrible advice.

        You shouldn't outsource anything until you are comfortable doing it yourself. That way you can tell if the outsourced SEO is quality work or just an SeNuke blast.

        Regardless, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything related to SEO right now until things settle down with the new update. Maybe submitting her site manually to Digg, Yellow Pages, etc but nothing too risky.
        How is that terrible advice? I don't mean outsourcing to a third world country - I mean hiring a professional to do the work that he has no knowledge about.

        outsourcing present participle of outĀ·source (Verb)
        Verb:
        Obtain (goods or a service) from an outside supplier
        Contract (work) out.
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      • Profile picture of the author debra
        Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

        No offense but that is terrible advice.

        You shouldn't outsource anything until you are comfortable doing it yourself. That way you can tell if the outsourced SEO is quality work or just an SeNuke blast.
        I hear ya, I would have been screwed if I thought that way. I would be without graphics for my sales pages. Forget that, I wouldn't have any sales pages to need graphics. lol What a cycle. Everything else...I got covered.

        Regardless, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything related to SEO right now until things settle down with the new update. Maybe submitting her site manually to Digg, Yellow Pages, etc but nothing too risky.
        I've been laying a little low to see how things are going to pan out myself.

        There is one thing that the op can work on for the client though. Since the site is focusing on a geographic area, she can create a geographic bubble that her site can demographically relate to.

        You can start this by pushing content across the areas News Channel. Most all news channels with incorporate the web2.0 platforms. You can build anywhere from linking schemes to link wheels using their platforms and leaching off of the channels traffic flows. Then float it through facebook, twitter, and pinterest (in her case).
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      You really should hire someone that knows what they are doing. Especially with the recent Google updates, you could really damage your client's site if you are not careful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    If you dont know where to start how can you give advice on what to do and let alone charge....

    And also as Legit said.... you need to really understand the industry before you can really look at outsourcing....
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      If you dont know where to start how can you give advice on what to do and let alone charge....

      And also as Legit said.... you need to really understand the industry before you can really look at outsourcing....
      Really? Because I don't understand a damn thing about how my car runs, but I have no problem paying a mechanic to fix it.

      I have no desire to understand the United State Tax Code. I pay someone to do that too.

      So I should be learning how a car runs and studying the tax code before hiring people to take care of these things? There is not enough time in the day to be an expert at everything.
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      • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Really? Because I don't understand a damn thing about how my car runs, but I have no problem paying a mechanic to fix it.

        I have no desire to understand the United State Tax Code. I pay someone to do that too.

        So I should be learning how a car runs and studying the tax code before hiring people to take care of these things? There is not enough time in the day to be an expert at everything.
        But are you charging your friend to fix their car?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

          But are you charging your friend to fix their car?
          Jeez, take the analogy he made a little too literal why don't you. The point is the guy is trying to get SEO done for his client. It's already his client, so why not make his life easier and take care of it for him by hiring someone to do it?
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

          But are you charging your friend to fix their car?
          That makes no sense. Of course not. I don't fix cars.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    sorry that should have said.....

    are you giving advice on how to fix his car....
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      sorry that should have said.....

      are you giving advice on how to fix his car....
      Which again makes no sense. Of course I am not giving advice about how to fix any cars. Like I clearly said, I don't know **** about cars. That's why I pay someone to take care of mine.

      Someone who doesn't know **** about SEO, shouldn't try learning it on a client's site. They should outsource to someone who does know what they are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    If I did not know what I was doing I would not recommend any companies to the client or outsource it through me as I will be the one that has to deal with the ****.....

    I would only recommend someone who I know personally is up to scratch.....

    Out source do what you like its not my business
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      If I did not know what I was doing I would not recommend any companies to the client or outsource it through me as I will be the one that has to deal with the ****.....

      I would only recommend someone who I know personally is up to scratch.....

      Out source do what you like its not my business
      It's no different than finding an attorney, a doctor, or an accountant when you need one. You don't need to study medicine to find a good doctor.

      You just ask around, do your own research, or ask for references. Any SEO should be able to show you examples of work they have done.
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      • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        It's no different than finding an attorney, a doctor, or an accountant when you need one. You don't need to study medicine to find a good doctor.

        You just ask around, do your own research, or ask for references. Any SEO should be able to show you examples of work they have done.
        Yep I completely agree with you on everything you have said....


        But the OP is on about charging someone for the services they know nothing about...lol

        What if their client read this thread... would they still hire them? I am not so sure.....
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

          But the OP is on about charging someone for the services they know nothing about...lol
          Yeah, that part I completely agree with you on. They shouldn't be charging for something they do not understand.

          I was just disagreeing where you said outsourcing wasn't a good idea for them without understanding SEO themselves.

          Outsourcing, in my opinion, is exactly what they should be doing for this project. If they want to learn SEO, fine. But that takes time and should not be something you try to learn while experimenting with a client's site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    haha yeah also agree with what you said in the above post...

    I personally would not outsource to an SEO company until I had used them first on a personal site before I let them loose on a clients site.

    I think we are agreeing.... I outsource rake loads of things so I love outsourcing :-)
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