HOW to get rid of bad backlinks ...

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jimgk

that the creator (mostly warriors for hire) that created them can't or won't ??

any experts here in the field of removing backlinks ??

The 'backlink removal' field doesn't exist. A new domain is the only way to ensure that all backlinks are gone.

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onlyone1 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

The 'backlink removal' field doesn't exist. A new domain is the only way to ensure that all backlinks are gone.

He is right!
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Mister Rex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

The 'backlink removal' field doesn't exist. A new domain is the only way to ensure that all backlinks are gone.

I respect you, but I have a lot of experience with this. Get all your backlinks you want removed. Send emails to the site owners with URL and ask them to remove the link. Some will, some wont.

If they dont, send them a DMCA notice, and maybe their host to get their attention. You can find who hosts a site here Web Hosting Search Tool | WhoIsHostingThis.com

It is a time consuming process, but it works!

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Rex

I respect you, but I have a lot of experience with this. Get all your backlinks you want removed. Send emails to the site owners with URL and ask them to remove the link. Some will, some wont.

If they dont, send them a DMCA notice, and maybe their host to get their attention. You can find who hosts a site here Web Hosting Search Tool | WhoIsHostingThis.com

It is a time consuming process, but it works!

If you send a false DMCA you can be counter sued. What exact 'copyright issue' are you proposing? You're claiming that a link you paid to be placed is now violating your copyright and you're enacting the DMCA to protect your interests?

If I started getting these at my DC I would sue everyone who filed a false claim. Simple as that.

For a 'White Hat' kind of guy, you need to step your ethics and legal game up a bit! Not trying to be harsh, but the tactic you describe is very under-handed and could end up blowing up in your face. A new domain is much more cost effective and friendly.

When you pay 'backlink spammers' for backlinks, you have to deal with the negative consequences. People using automated backlinks no they're risking their domain.

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Mister Rex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

If you send a false DMCA you can be counter sued. What exact 'copyright issue' are you proposing? You're claiming that a link you paid to be placed is now violating your copyright and you're enacting the DMCA to protect your interests?

If I started getting these at my DC I would sue everyone who filed a false claim. Simple as that.

For a 'White Hat' kind of guy, you need to step your ethics and legal game up a bit! Not trying to be harsh, but the tactic you describe is very under-handed and could end up blowing up in your face. A new domain is much more cost effective and friendly.

When you pay 'backlink spammers' for backlinks, you have to deal with the negative consequences. People using automated backlinks no they're risking their domain.

Im assuming his links are not links he paid to place directly, but from link vendors. I had to come in behind an SEO one time and get rid of some absolute spam. I had to DMCA a lot of sites that refused to remove the link.

Most sites removed them, no problem. For a couple of article directories, I asked the link only be removed, not the content - so the sites didnt lose anything by removing my links.

Again, that is only for the harshest of circumstances. If he paid for a link like a blogroll or something, a simple email to the person will get the link removed. If he wants his site back and has trouble removing links, he has to take action.

EDIT: When I say a lot - I removed around 3k backlinks and had to do maybe 50 DMCA's

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Rex

Im assuming his links are not links he paid to place directly, but from link vendors. I had to come in behind an SEO one time and get rid of some absolute spam. I had to DMCA a lot of sites that refused to remove the link.

Most sites removed them, no problem. For a couple of article directories, I asked the link only be removed, not the content - so the sites didnt lose anything by removing my links.

Again, that is only for the harshest of circumstances. If he paid for a link like a blogroll or something, a simple email to the person will get the link removed. If he wants his site back and has trouble removing links, he has to take action.

In the hosting industry right now many people are considering 'false DMCAs' to be a new source of revenue. I'm just warning anyone thinking about doing it. DMCA's cost companies money to clean up and respond to. Hosting companies don't like spending extra money or doing extra work.

I know what you're saying if they're playing hard ball with him. But I had the impression he use Warrior Forum SEO services. To me that generally means spun garbage, blog networks, etc.

It all really depends on the commitment level to a website. For people who pour their heart, soul and money into a domain it's tough to give up the dream. However, a realistic assessment of many of these damaged domains would probably turn up websites that could be exceeded in quality easily with a new website. Take everything you learned up to now and apply it.

Also, you can always buy an aged domain if it has a backlink profile that matches your niche.

Better yet: do all of it. Build a brand new domain, fix your old one, get backlinks removed, and buy an aged domain and put a site there. At least that way you'd get the benefits of experimentation!

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1byte 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Rex

If they dont, send them a DMCA notice, and maybe their host to get their attention.

A DMCA notice to get links removed???

I thought DMCA notices were about copyright infringements. How is a link to someone's site a "copyright infringement?" :confused:
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online games

14 years ago

very keen to hear sugestions to this as i had a website on google 1st page then over night whent to nothing and never recovered

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panaka

14 years ago

Why do you need the links removed? If its because of a penalty by Google, then you can attempt to create more legit looking back links to drown the bad ones out. But if your site dropped recently, it might also have been because of Google's new update.

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Mister Rex

14 years ago

@mosthost My client did 15 million a year from his site. There was no starting over

But, I like your last post. Good points.

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Rex

@mosthost My client did 15 million a year from his site. There was no starting over

But, I like your last post. Good points.

With 15 million at stake things change significantly. Let's face it, with a big enough budget you could just pay people to remove the links.

Send them to a form that shows the link has been removed and send them a $20 by PayPal.

Truth is: "link removal" is about to be the biggest niche in this industry. I can imagine people spitting out their WSOs right now!

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Mister Rex

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

With 15 million at stake things change significantly. Let's face it, with a big enough budget you could just pay people to remove the links.

Send them to a form that shows the link has been removed and send them a $20 by PayPal.

Truth is: "link removal" is about to be the biggest niche in this industry. I can imagine people spitting out their WSOs right now!

Great idea on the link removal!

You have to forgive me. I am not used to working with sites that do $100's per year or a few thousand. So, I have to learn to give advice for smaller scale sites.

Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate it, greatly! SEOs working together is what makes SEO work.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

HOW to get rid of bad backlinks

Find the server that the links are on & hit it with a hammer about 5 times (j/k).

Don't forget, wear eye protection, safety first.

Seriously, I doubt you'll remove any external links that you don't have access to.

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TheProgrammer

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Find the server that the links are on & hit it with a hammer about 5 times (j/k).

Don't forget, wear eye protection, safety first.

Seriously, I doubt you'll remove any external links that you don't have access to.

LOL above the two lines are to the point, OP follow them as soon as possible

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mosthost

14 years ago

You can always go back and find those 100,000 forum registration emails and go and pull the damn links down yourself!

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1byte 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

You can always go back and find those 100,000 forum registration emails and go and pull the damn links down yourself!

ha ha, that's a good one! :p
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JSProjects

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jimgk

that the creator (mostly warriors for hire) that created them can't or won't ??

any experts here in the field of removing backlinks ??

Incredibly difficult, if not impossible. It'd be easier to just start fresh.

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glock67

14 years ago

just go back to the forum or site where you create the link and get rid of it

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RevSEO

14 years ago

The advice that MisterRex proposed is spot on.

A DMCA is a last resort, but under certain circumstances has and can be used for link removal. Heck, I believe I've even read Matt C. recommending using a DMCA if all else fails and have also seen it proposed as a solution on Webmaster Tools forum.

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1byte

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RevSEO

The advice that MisterRex proposed is spot on.

A DMCA is a last resort, but under certain circumstances has and can be used for link removal. Heck, I believe I've even read Matt C. recommending using a DMCA if all else fails and have also seen it proposed as a solution on Webmaster Tools forum.

I'm not a lawyer or expert in this, but from all that I've read about it, I'm pretty sure that using DMCA for link take-downs is a misuse of that law. Whether or not the company served with the DMCA fights it is another story altogether.

It would certainly be a lot easier to just remove the link than to fight it in court. I think that is why Google so quickly removes links to sites with pirated content and so forth, even though they have a "right" to link to it if they want to.

How is a link "copyrighted" anyway? If it can be used for that, then I don't see how the internet can survive, as it is one vast web of links.

Of course, I could be completely wrong on this.

I've looked for Matt's recommendation on using DMCA notices to take down links and I can't find it anywhere. Can you please provide link to his comments? Thanks.

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syedmuntajib

14 years ago

You are not the one who lost the site, there are thousands. The only way is to try another domain with low competitive keyword and build links effectively and with different sources.

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jimgk

14 years ago

i think this is become a productive thread of good ideas and suggestions - thanks all : )

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Ashera

14 years ago

Have fun filing false DMCA complaints over a link...

Originally Posted by kindsvater

1. This has bogus written all over it. I'd ask for a copy of the contract authorizing the person to send a DMCA notice. Just asking for the contract can be an effective way of quickly shutting down complaints.

2. This isn't a copyright issue. Just a linking complaint.

3. If I knew who they were and where they were, and evaluated how much I'd be tempted to delete the article (just to avoid any copyright issues) and keep the links!

4. Send a counter DMCA notice.

5. FYI - Attorney's fees are recoverable against someone who makes a fraudulent DMCA complaint. 17 USC Section 512(f).

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http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ove-links.html

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akazzz

14 years ago

You can remove your backlinks but its a very...very time consuming task. You can use backlink analyzer programs like SEO spyglass, ibacklinkspro, majesticseo, ahrefs, etc.. to analyze each one of them and go to the url to remove them. No automation here just pure manual work.

My recommendation: Build links to cover up your bad backlinks. Quality links.

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FraserC

14 years ago

This is really scary that the only option many linkbuilders have is to file DMCA requests. This is going to waste so much time and create so much unintended havok. The only reason this is going to work is because web hosts are extremely sensitive to DMCA requests and will shut down entire websites if a webmaster doesn't take action.

The solution to this problem is to give webmasters a way to disavow bad links in the Google Webmaster Tools interface, but Matt Cutts says they don't have any plans to provide that functionality.

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wpo1408

14 years ago

I have never bought links, but I used an article submitter.
The route I am going to try is go to WMT, look up the sites linking to me, log in and delete my account.
I don't know if this will work, because the first 6 I tried said I was not a member, but Google is showing hundreds of links.
In that case, if Google gives me a notice of unnatural links, I can say what I have done and give them a list of those that I have no access to.

Owen

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wpo1408

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wpo1408

I have never bought links, but I used an article submitter.
The route I am going to try is go to WMT, look up the sites linking to me, log in and delete my account.
I don't know if this will work, because the first 6 I tried said I was not a member, but Google is showing hundreds of links.
In that case, if Google gives me a notice of unnatural links, I can say what I have done and give them a list of those that I have no access to.

Owen

My suggestion above did not work.
I made three attempts to do as they recommended, but got the same reply to all of them:
'Google thinks you may have done something naughty, but we're not going to tell you where ....'.

I give up now, they can do what they want.

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extremejava

14 years ago

someone mentioned about staring fresh website.
Will it be good idea to purchase a new domain name and make it point to penalized domain's name servers and close/dump the penalized domain name without any 301.302 redirects?

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uoftenwinny

14 years ago

I wanna know too.
So thanks for sharing. helpful.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jimgk

that the creator (mostly warriors for hire) that created them can't or won't ??

any experts here in the field of removing backlinks ??

If a site is one that is really profitable (or has been before), and you dont want to part with it, instead of spending time trying to figure out how to remove bad links and then (assuming you figured it out) going through one by one asking webmasters to remove your links, use that time to build quality links, so you can have a better link portfolio.

You can not bring down authority sites with bad backlinks, because they have lots of quality links that kind of outweigh the o called "bad backlinks".

Of course if a site is not making you much money and is not worth all that time and effort, just move on and build another one or just move to a new domain.

Good luck.

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meatro

14 years ago

None of these people are going to sue you for filing a DMCA complaint.

Here's the scenario...

1.) You send them a DMCA complaint to remove their link to your website.
2.) "OMG, this is a false complaint! I'll sue you!"
3.) "Steinberg, Weinstein & Horowitz... False DMCA complaints, you say? We'd love to represent you for a $15,000 retainer.... Hello?.... Hello?"

I love when folks say, "I'd sue them in a heartbeat and take everything!"

......No you wouldn't.

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Ashera

14 years ago

Originally Posted by meatro

None of these people are going to sue you for filing a DMCA complaint.

Here's the scenario...

1.) You send them a DMCA complaint to remove their link to your website.
2.) "OMG, this is a false complaint! I'll sue you!"
3.) "Steinberg, Weinstein & Horowitz... False DMCA complaints, you say? We'd love to represent you for a $15,000 retainer.... Hello?.... Hello?"

I love when folks say, "I'd sue them in a heartbeat and take everything!"

......No you wouldn't.

Section 512(f) of the DMCA creates a cause of action for a service provider or an end-user against "[a]ny person who knowingly materially misrepresents under this section (1) that material or activity is infringing, or (2) that material or activity was removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification." Those injured by misrepresentations in DMCA takedown notices or counter-notices are entitled to bring suit and recover actual damages, as well as costs and attorney's fees. 17 U.S.C § 512(f).

Copyright: Digital Millennium Copyright Act - Internet Law Treatise

Plenty of lawyers would represent you for an open and shut case like this. I don't know what you are on about.

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Chronic IM

14 years ago

Hello!

You can't remove backlinks or if you can, it will be extremely difficult and will probably take most of your time. You should just make lots of new quality links or making a new domain is another great idea rather than wasting quality time figuring out how to remove them.

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wpo1408 14 years ago

Yes, ....

I have 20,000 backlinks to one site that Google is complaining about.
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bdbloggerz

14 years ago

how to check real backlinks?
In alexa.co it shows only 16 backlinks. But i have submitted in thousands of sites.
How to check the proper backlink result?

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14 years ago

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rjonesx 14 years ago

There really aren't any "true experts" in the field of link removal at this point. There are a lot of tips and tricks coming out that help you find contact information and convince webmasters to remove your links, but a lot of it is just social engineering kind of stuff.
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- wpo1408 14 years ago
  
  Basically, there's bugger all you can do unless Google tells you what the problem is and if you are a small 'guy', they won't.
  
  I think that this is an excuse to pare down the small sites.
  
  When I had a construction firm, if times were good, we would take on a few jobs knowing there was little money in it because we wanted goodwill in our town.
  
  When the chips were down, we wouldn't touch a job under 8,000 GBP.
  
  The chips are down and Google is chopping people out.
  
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TomBond

14 years ago

If the links are really that bad they will get deindexed along with the rest of the site. Once deindexed Google will ignore them. Just focus on building good new links to the site, they will replace the bad links over time.

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rightseosteps

14 years ago

The only possible way to remove a backlink is to ask the web owner to remove the links but in most cases it's not possible and your stuck with it. It becomes a real mess in the long run as you need to change domains and redirect all the links to the new one.

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lindasofia 14 years ago

Email all the webmaster to remove your link form their website. This is the only way.
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