Try to DEFEND your GOOGLE here.

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many of you here still believes that google has made a good work by updating their algo and now given you QUALITY results in the SERPS.

Now try to defend your GOOGLE in this KW.

"BUY NEW PANTS"

now tell me, is it good?


ohh, by the way this is not about whining about slapped sites, this is about the "QUALITY" that google says.
#defend #google
  • Profile picture of the author Dentist
    Awesome! I laughed so hard
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
    Yes there are a handful of bad results. Google has been cleaning them up.

    Who seriously searches for "buy new pants"
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by tylerherman View Post

      Who seriously searches for "buy new pants"
      Anybody affected badly by the new update
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by tylerherman View Post

      Yes there are a handful of bad results. Google has been cleaning them up.

      Who seriously searches for "buy new pants"
      Who searches for "buy new pants"? People who have
      nothing better to do with their valuable time.

      Me? I'm working on making money, not doing silly,
      useless searches for bogus terms. What do
      you people expect? I cannot believe how many people
      here at the WF are doing such stuff. But then,
      that would explain all the threads on google hitting
      their sites. They're too busy doing something other
      than drumming up business and traffic. Heaven
      forbid if they actually spent some time working on
      a website....

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    That's funny!

    I'm sure someone will appear soon to defend Google.

    When this Penguin update first happened, I thought my computer had a virus and my search results were hijacked.
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  • Profile picture of the author xiro25
    Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

    many of you here still believes that google has made a good work by updating their algo and now given you QUALITY results in the SERPS.

    Now try to defend your GOOGLE in this KW.

    "BUY NEW PANTS"

    now tell me, is it good?

    First of all, who would do a search for buy new pants. Secondly I think google still provides a relevant search return. The only people who do not like it is Internet Marketers.

    Do you really think that google wants its user to come a across A bunch of 5 page MFA sites or would they rather want an authority site that will encompass everything in that niche.

    Instead of coming up with stupid search terms that google happened to return one or two bad websites for a crappy search term, How about working on your website that provides a user experience and Answers what the searcher wants.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    9/10 relevant results for me.

    You guys going to go build a business now or what?
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      9/10 relevant results for me.

      You guys going to go build a business now or what?

      No I think they are just going to complain about useless searches again and again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by xiro25 View Post

        No I think they are just going to complain about useless searches again and again.
        Well, I guess they have to do something until someone comes up with the next "trick" right ?

        A novel idea for those of you whining about Google, how about don't base your entire business around their traffic? A novel idea I know; but stop whining, get into work mode, and try it. Thank me later if you actually do it :rolleyes:.

        Oh, and to clarify I have no intent of defending Google. They don't pay my bills. You guys whining isn't getting your bills paid either, so stop it.
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        • Profile picture of the author johnnyflex
          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          Well, I guess they have to do something until someone comes up with the next "trick" right ?

          A novel idea for those of you whining about Google, how about don't base your entire business around their traffic? A novel idea I know; but stop whining, get into work mode, and try it. Thank me later if you actually do it :rolleyes:.

          Oh, and to clarify I have no intent of defending Google. They don't pay my bills. You guys whining isn't getting your bills paid either, so stop it.
          YEs, its a novel idea about "QUALITY" Good for you, you found the result QUALITY.. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author johnnyflex
        Originally Posted by xiro25 View Post

        No I think they are just going to complain about useless searches again and again.
        No, this is not about the Rankings of our sites. THIS is about the QUALITY in the SERPS!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

          No, this is not about the Rankings of our sites. THIS is about the QUALITY in the SERPS!!
          This is what people are not getting: The quality of the SERPs means jack s*** to you and your business. What does quality mean to users/readers/buyers in your niche? That is the one and only type of quality you need to concern yourself with.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

          No, this is not about the Rankings of our sites. THIS is about the QUALITY in the SERPS!!
          So the SERPs were 100% perfect before the last Google algo. change?

          Interesting...
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            So the SERPs were 100% perfect before the last Google algo. change?

            Interesting...
            They were, because their pages (which could never be anything other than high quality) were ranking :rolleyes:.
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          • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            So the SERPs were 100% perfect before the last Google algo. change?

            Interesting...
            I don't believe he ever said that Yukon... Nor did he imply it, unless I missed something??
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by mrultra View Post

        BS. Not one of the results actually sells pants, which is what someone searching "buy new pants" wants. No one is searching for "buy new pants' to read about home schooling.
        I'm finding it odd that I don't receive the same crap results on these searches that others do. What I see are 8 blogs/articles/stories/and a video about having to buy or when to buy new pants. There is a pointless blogger blog called new pants. Most importantly, the shopping results are right there on page one. If actually purchasing pants is what the searcher intended to do, they have their answer right there, so I'm not seeing the problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
    HOLY F!

    Warrior forum is about discussions. This thread is placed in the SEO section of the forum (ie. it's about "search engines). Who the #%#@ cares if this one thread is productive or not. Why can't you post in a forum just to discuss the latest events of what you're interested in.

    Whether it affected your business positively or negatively, the Penguin update is a BIG DEAL in the world of SEO. For goodness sakes, it's completely fair and relevant to discuss the success of an algorithm update.

    @ The unnecessary hecklers

    Why waste time by criticizing a warrior's willingness to rant or discuss current events. It's not like you're being any more productive by wasting time criticizing.

    @ the OP

    I typed in the search term "buy new pants"

    If I was looking to buy new pants, I would have found absolutely NOTHING worth clicking on. I agree that Google has messed up a good portion of there search results temporarily. I'm not a Google hater though, and I would expect them to fix the problems ASAP.
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Originally Posted by Brendan Mace View Post

      HOLY F!

      Warrior forum is about discussions. This thread is placed in the SEO section of the forum (ie. it's about "search engines). Who the #%#@ cares if this one thread is productive or not. Why can't you post in a forum just to discuss the latest events of what you're interested in.

      Whether it affected your business positively or negatively, the Penguin update is a BIG DEAL in the world of SEO. For goodness sakes, it's completely fair and relevant to discuss the success of an algorithm update.

      @ The unnecessary hecklers

      Why waste time by criticizing a warrior's willingness to rant or discuss current events. It's not like you're being any more productive by wasting time criticizing.

      @ the OP

      I typed in the search term "buy new pants"

      If I was looking to buy new pants, I would have found absolutely NOTHING worth clicking on. I agree that Google has messed up a good portion of there search results temporarily. I'm not a Google hater though, and I would expect them to fix the problems ASAP.
      Well said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    No one searches for "buy new pants", sorry bro. You don't have an argument there. There's a very good chance that they are categorizing search queries in some way (related to popularity perhaps) and then filtering results for real phrases that users search for/use. Obviously this is pure speculation, but so is your argument - baseless.

    I'm all for a good discussion, but you have to step up your game a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author SomedayMaybe
    This is indefensible. Thanks to Google's heartlessness we now have no idea where to go to clothe ourselves. Surely this is a global crisis? We're all going to be without new pants... forever!
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Check out 'buy used pants' and 'purchase soiled pants' too.
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  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    Yeh it's pretty weird, I think Google will update a different code soon but someone said don't just rely on Google and rankings - this is very important - there are load more other and better ways to get business to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    I like how all you guys saying they are "wasting" their time, while you are wasting your own time by reading this thread which you deemed unproductive. Not only reading, you decide to put in your .02 in, which is just regurgitated and spun BS with comments like "build your business", or "i'm working on making money, not doing silly, useless searches for bogus terms". <- LOL

    Does this forum make you money by reading it and posting the same ole BS replies when people ask about Google Penguin. I don't think so... Why don't you go build your business then and save your unproductive and useless comments if you're just trying to bash the OP...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    ^^^The irony is palpable.

    Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

    Who searches for "buy new pants"? People who have
    nothing better to do with their valuable time.
    Exactly. I'd find a better search query than one that gets 260 global searches per month. We aren't exactly talking about hard hitting stuff here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oracle_320th
    I don't know why you guys try to defend Google soooo muchhhh. The basic idea when Allen created this forum was simple, for average people to be able to make money from Internet.

    So a lot of marketers come to this forum to figure out a way together how to make money from Internet. From marketer's standpoint of course a lot of marketers or business owners get upset when their years of hard works were vanished in just one night.

    I believe that scrappy contents are deemed to get punished. But this is not fair to punish perfectly quality websites just because somewhere in the past, years ago, they got back links from blog comments.

    There are actually high quality websites out there where people put a lot of money and time to create the content. Those websites get penalized just because some blog comments that were done years ago. You can check some examples of these websites from Google Webmaster Forum.

    Imagine, when you are death and someone judge you that you need to go to hell just because on one rainy day when you were 7 years old you stole candy from your classmate.

    If you don't like the thread you don't need to make any comment or even better you can become a moderator in Google webmaster forum so you get paid to defend their brand.
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      Originally Posted by Oracle_320th View Post

      I don't know why you guys try to defend Google soooo muchhhh. The basic idea when Allen created this forum was simple, for average people to be able to make money from Internet.

      So a lot of marketers come to this forum to figure out a way together how to make money from Internet. From marketer's standpoint of course a lot of marketers or business owners get upset when their years of hard works were vanished in just one night.

      I believe that scrappy contents are deemed to get punished. But this is not fair to punish perfectly quality websites just because somewhere in the past, years ago, they got back links from blog comments.

      There are actually high quality websites out there where people put a lot of money and time to create the content. Those websites get penalized just because some blog comments that were done years ago. You can check some examples of these websites from Google Webmaster Forum.

      Imagine, when you are death and someone judge you that you need to go to hell just because on one rainy day when you were 7 years old you stole candy from your classmate.

      If you don't like the thread you don't need to make a comment or even better you can become a moderator in Google webmaster forum so you get paid to defend their brand.
      Blog Comments are not the reason why those "high quality" sites got penalized. There is on page reason and anchor text over optimization.

      Lets see these "high quality" sites that everyone talks about.
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    • Profile picture of the author BLQu
      Originally Posted by Oracle_320th View Post

      I don't know why you guys try to defend Google soooo muchhhh. The basic idea when Allen created this forum was simple, for average people to be able to make money from Internet.

      So a lot of marketers come to this forum to figure out a way together how to make money from Internet. From marketer's standpoint of course a lot of marketers or business owners get upset when their years of hard works were vanished in just one night.

      I believe that scrappy contents are deemed to get punished. But this is not fair to punish perfectly quality websites just because somewhere in the past, years ago, they got back links from blog comments.

      There are actually high quality websites out there where people put a lot of money and time to create the content. Those websites get penalized just because some blog comments that were done years ago. You can check some examples of these websites from Google Webmaster Forum.

      Imagine, when you are death and someone judge you that you need to go to hell just because on one rainy day when you were 7 years old you stole candy from your classmate.

      If you don't like the thread you don't need to make any comment or even better you can become a moderator in Google webmaster forum so you get paid to defend their brand.

      Why people defend Google so much?

      People are scared of Google and Google's dominance! That's the main reason.


      See my thread:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-finished.html
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Lol. Actually I've noticed quite a few 404's in results recently. That should almost never happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    From end users point of view, still they may not notice such poor & irrelevant results from Google at this point, but on long run, it may lead Google to loose it market to other search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    Dude, the algorithm is software a software program. Google achieving putting out bug results is not a realistic goal. It's all about overall improvement toward their goal and vision.

    Beside that, you need to look at the result quality data on 1,000 to 10,000's or more keywords to even approach a relevant sample size.

    EDIT: To add to the discussion look at the results on the whole, what do they tell you?. The obvious thing that stands out looking at them for just a minute or 2 is that they are devaluing most types of forced optimization. (the line in the sand between a webmaster and an SEO)

    I'd focus on the idea of "natural optimization" and "user optimization" as the pillar for my own long term SEO...
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Daniel Deegan View Post

      I'd focus on the idea of "natural optimization" and "user optimization" as the pillar for my own long term SEO...
      Quoted for truth. If you're going to play the SEO game at all, you might as well do it like this. You'll be pleasantly surprised when the next algo update rolls out and your sites do just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I wouldn't be surprised If Google will flip the switch & revert back to a similar (not same) algo. after the majority of IMers get pissed off & make major edits to their sites/links.

    Anyone that thinks Google will lose market share to Bing is not thinking clearly.

    Bing is like AOL, they'll eventually fade away, then one day someone in their late 80's will say "Remember that search engine that Microsoft once had, how's that working out?".
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Opinions does not mean anything to me. True, Google still has market share but opinion polls suggest Bing brings in equivalent results. With that said, Google was voted most trusted as a brand. To those who argue against op, buy new pants is not the only phrase bringing in garbage. I love how some of you know exactly how main stream searchers think and whether they are pleased with results as if you've done some statistical analysis. I love how you know how it only affects non marketers. You actually know absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. What a joke.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oracle_320th
    This is some examples of some legitimate websites that get penalized after penguin
    Google “Penguin” Update Punishes Quality Web Sites
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    The very title of this thread - "Try to DEFEND your GOOGLE here." is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but how can anyone take this thread seriously?

    I get it - some of you lost sites/money and are feeling the sting right now. Your options are pretty clear - either re-build, change to a different business model or pack up and go back to 9-5.

    The truth is that most of you couldn't even land a decent 9-5, while most of the successful IMers (that I personally know) can send out CV's today and have £35-£45k/year jobs by mid next week. Yes, in this "tough economy". It's not that bad actually. That should tell you something, and I don't mean to be condescending at all. I really, really enjoy helping others.

    Most of you see IM as a dream of riches, easy money and lazy days doing **** all. You don't even know WHY you want those things, you just "kinda" want them. So you "kinda" create a half assed plan and "sort of" go at it. Which, in most cases, means either selling ****ty info products, brokering forum SEO packages and claiming to be local SEO experts or buying ****ty "ready made" minisites along with a couple cheap SEO packages and hoping to flip them later on. None of those things are real businesses.

    And now back to the "build a real business" discussion. Yes, go and ****ing build a business. Take some time away and think everything through - your goals, WHY you want to achieve them, HOW you're going to get there, exactly how long it might take and what resources you need. Have realistic expectations and THINK about diversification right from the beginning. Should you be building a list? Flipping sites asap? Reinvesting heavy in bigger projects that are more self sufficient?

    And most importantly - can you afford to start a business? Do you have enough funds to last you at least 6-12 months? Do you have a family to feed? Are the any other people who depend on you to put food on the table, pay the bills, etc? Do you have the inner strength to wake up early every single morning for six months, without a single day off, and work your ass off without wasting time on forums, blogs and facebook? Do you have a strong sense of responsibility and are going to be able to provide for all those who depend on you without getting depressed like a little sucker when **** doesn't go your way? Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be trying to build a business. It's not for everyone.

    Think about your situation very well before you make any rash decisions (or go posting rants on random forums). Can you afford to waste those precious 5 mins (face it, for most of you it's more like 3 hours/day) complaining about algo changes here? Is there anyone out there thinking that you're hard at work, doing everything in your power to bring in some money or "make this business/internet thing work"?

    I've been through all this crap myself at one point and let me tell you - until you fundamentally change the way you view "making money" (be it online or working for someone else) - you will never be successful in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    Well it's true that google's result sucks. I was hoping bing will capitalize on that.

    I was watching bing results vs google results, after penguin noticed that bing results are infinite better than google results.

    As days passes, same irrelevant sites that top results in google are beginning to show up in bing.

    So i guess it's unrealistic to expect bing to challenge google when they copy results like that.

    Conclusion : suck it up, buckle up and dance how google's singing.
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