Penguin Killing Social Monkee?

AnmolJ

14 years ago

don't use software
and ask someone to remove that backlinks ASAP

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Suzanne Morrison

14 years ago

My thoughts are that it is not that you have links from these specific sites, but that you just hit a threshhold in the Google Algorithm e.g. for anchor text over optimization or something similar.

I think that it is best to make your link profile more natural (good quality links, very varied anchor text, mix of nofollow and do follow links etc) rather than try to remove specific links.

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paulgl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Suzanne Morrison

My thoughts are that it is not that you have links from these specific sites, but that you just hit a threshhold in the Google Algorithm e.g. for anchor text over optimization or something similar.

I think that it is best to make your link profile more natural (good quality links, very varied anchor text, mix of nofollow and do follow links etc) rather than try to remove specific links.

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Suzanne

Google never said a thing about natural, over optimization like that. Except in one
case. Forum sig links. And you don't think:
"*** 30 Ways To Get Traffic in 30 Minutes Or Less" is a classic case of
what they were actually talking about? Oh. WSO...now we know the
rest of the story. Do as I say, not as I do. You have 2,200+ links here
for that....naturally, of course.

Oh they did say one other thing about anchor.....don't make a blog comment
with a user name that is exactly what you are doing link spam for.

Paul

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cooler1

14 years ago

I don't think any of those sites are anything to do with Social Monkee. The sites which Social Monkee submit to are just social bookmarking sites.

Have you looked at your sites anchor text at opensiteexplorer.org That should tell you how varied your anchor text is. Microsite Masters case study found that sites which have 60% or more anchor text containing a "money keyword" were affected.

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thomasr

14 years ago

I do not buy into the whole anchor text thing. Most my anchor text3 is my brand name. Wouldnt it seem like a company would have most their backlinks anchor text as their company name? Take for instance starbucks.....wouldn't it seem logical that cast majority of their anchor links would be "Starbucks"

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BlackPotion

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thomasr

I do not buy into the whole anchor text thing. Most my anchor text3 is my brand name. Wouldnt it seem like a company would have most their backlinks anchor text as their company name? Take for instance starbucks.....wouldn't it seem logical that cast majority of their anchor links would be "Starbucks"

Yeah I agree if your using your companies name for your anchor text then it should have a higher limit before you're penalized but on site optimization has been being taken into consideration a lot more since penguin I believe that's why my main site was hit from 7 to 78 in a day.

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cooler1

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thomasr

I do not buy into the whole anchor text thing. Most my anchor text3 is my brand name. Wouldnt it seem like a company would have most their backlinks anchor text as their company name? Take for instance starbucks.....wouldn't it seem logical that cast majority of their anchor links would be "Starbucks"

Im not sure how important the variation of anchor text in backlinks is regarding Penguin.

Most of the sites which are currently page 1 in Google which survived Penguin seem to have a well varied amount of anchor text in their backlinks instead of only focusing on one or two anchor text keywords, but i've also seen sites on page 1 which have about 99% of exactly the same keyword in their anchor text so I don't know why they weren't affected by Penguin.

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boxoun

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Im not sure how important the variation of anchor text in backlinks is regarding Penguin.

Most of the sites which are currently page 1 in Google which survived Penguin seem to have a well varied amount of anchor text in their backlinks instead of only focusing on one or two anchor text keywords, but i've also seen sites on page 1 which have about 99% of exactly the same keyword in their anchor text so I don't know why they weren't affected by Penguin.

I have to assume google is ignoring certain types of links already that's why you see sites that are over optimized for keyword. If you dig into the sites they, are coming from same places.

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Devilfish168 12 years ago

I noticed my website ranking drop ...back to few K !

after SEO has done....

it seem like I also been hit ..
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cooler1

14 years ago

Does anyone recommend deleting links from Social Monkee? As I guess they are considered "low quality links" which Penguin doesn't like.

It doesn't seem to be entirely clear whether Penguin just discards backlinks or imposes a some kind of algo penalty, but looking at the SERPs it seems that it's more of an algo penalty than just discarding the links.

There isn't an option to manually remove them, so you could only contact support to ask if they can remove them.

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jewelraz

14 years ago

It's going to be very interesting. However, It's difficult for webmasters to delete back links which are not created by them but by the spammers. In this case, What should be the proper action? Google should notify or give a complete guidelines how to remove spammer links from pointing our websites.

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inevitable

14 years ago

for the record, social monkee is not working anymore. i'm not sure if it's not compatible with firefox 12 and/or a result of a "major upgrade" they advertised they were doing to their software early last week, but whatever it is, it's not working anymore. i've submitted two trouble tickets to them, sent them a bunch of screen shots that they requested, but they have gone silent, which really pisses me off since i only joined social monkee a couple of months back and went for the upgrade to be able to submit to 150 sites.

is social marker any better, or at least offer adequate customer service?

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Enfusia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by inevitable

for the record, social monkee is not working anymore. i'm not sure if it's not compatible with firefox 12 and/or a result of a "major upgrade" they advertised they were doing to their software early last week, but whatever it is, it's not working anymore. i've submitted two trouble tickets to them, sent them a bunch of screen shots that they requested, but they have gone silent, which really pisses me off since i only joined social monkee a couple of months back and went for the upgrade to be able to submit to 150 sites.

is social marker any better, or at least offer adequate customer service?

For the record I just went to the social monkee site after reading what you just said and it works jut fine and I use Fire Fox.

I am testing social monkee right now by useing 1 positive keyword and 7 no keyword (I.E. naked link, click here etc.).

I would tell you what my findings are but I just did that last night.

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inevitable

14 years ago

I am very curious about this. Can you provide more details? I am using Windows7 64 bit, Firefox v12.0. I don't know if it is coincidence or not (huge one if so) but Social Monkee has not worked for me since they did their software upgrade a couple of weeks ago. What operating system do you use? What version of Firefox?

Originally Posted by Enfusia

For the record I just went to the social monkee site after reading what you just said and it works jut fine and I use Fire Fox.

I am testing social monkee right now by useing 1 positive keyword and 7 no keyword (I.E. naked link, click here etc.).

I would tell you what my findings are but I just did that last night.

Patrick

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inevitable 14 years ago

update: social monkee DOES work with internet explorer, but confirmed it is NOT working with firefox v12.0, either via theaddon plugin or when using firefox to browse directly to the social monkee web site to manually submit.
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SarahMcCrary

14 years ago

Penguin hates every automate tool that people uses to build backlinks. Do link building manually and use quality content in all submissions.

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mosthost

14 years ago

Monkey killed by Penguin.

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remodeler 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

Monkey killed by Penguin.

After first being assaulted by Panda...
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- mosthost 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by remodeler
  
  After first being assaulted by Panda...
  
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computron

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thomasr

I have a bunch of sites. I build them all the same way and I get links through white-hat methods.

Well I tried social monkey for a few days. And submitted a few sites. Well 2 of them took a big hit with the Penguin Update.

I looked a my Google Webmaster Tools links to see a bunch of crud linking to me.

en.itsex.cn
se.hellogeneration.com
tr.gruil.com
www allnetseek.com

I see the culprit being social monkee as I have never visited any of these sites let alone get links from them.

Anyone else use social monkee and take a hit from Penguin?

YES! I used the free social monkee for 25 bookmark's linking straight to my home page. I was ranked #5 on the first page for my keyword. And as soon as penguin took place I dropped to the second page and have had a hard time getting back up.

It was for sure social monkee as everything else I do is handmade web 2.0's

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SümerTech

14 years ago

I have been using social monkee for the past 2-3 months and really haven't seen any value in the 100s of links I can submit per day. There's no doubt that these are junk links as you need to create literally thousands of these to be as effective as one good high pr link. The whole social monkee system just got revamped so it looks like they must have been recently hit..meaning the links are even less valuable.

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mattfraser

13 years ago

For those of you who may want some hard data and case studies you may want to check this out:

Panda Breakthrough | World's 1st Panda Recovery System

Its on panda but he also includes data on penguin.

I was on a webinar with the course creator and he definitely knows his stuff.

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carrotdogs

13 years ago

Personally, I wouldn't risk using Social Monkee or any other automated tool to bring links in to your site. It should just be used to index tiered links IMO

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planck

13 years ago

UAW does not seem to have been hit by penguin!

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onpointinfo

13 years ago

It is not worth it if it is short lived,

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Moriarty

13 years ago

Social Monkee users were almost unanimously hit with an "unnatural links" letter/warning. Some of my mates were put out of business by it. I did warn them not to use it so much, but no. They knew better. They still do, and I'm still in business.

It's going to be very interesting. However, It's difficult for webmasters to delete back links which are not created by them but by the spammers. In this case, What should be the proper action? Google should notify or give a complete guidelines how to remove spammer links from pointing our websites.

If you have a page that is linked to by a "bad" link, remove that page in its entirety. If the link heads to a 404 Google's going to discount it. Well that's my experience.

As to "Google should notify or give a complete guidelines how to remove spammer links" This is something that Google specifically tells people not to do, isn't that like asking the police to help you out of the bank vault when they're shining their torches in your face?

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shayman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Moriarty

Social Monkee users were almost unanimously hit with an "unnatural links" letter/warning.

I think on the whole you might be right about social monkee, but I used it a fair bit and didn't get unnatural link warning. However I do think SM may have been the downfall of some of my sites.
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- rondellrandall 12 years ago
  
  I think what some folks are missing is the FACT that Social Monkee links are just social media links. So all this talk about them being "junk links" is indicative of not really understanding the new rules. Or just parroting what they heard or read. Listen folks, A link from a social media site, IS NOT going to HURT your site rankings. This is NOT my opinion, It is a FACT!
  
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SEO Eddie

12 years ago

It's never been a good idea to use social monkee. Garbage backlinks.

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