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Dropped from Position 1

by Easy Cash
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Just wondering if anyone has any ideas how to investigate why a website would drop from position 1 (Been there for 4 years) to about page 10 in Google. (Signficant Drop)

Is there any way to find out what is going on?
#dropped #position
  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Look at your backlinks via Majestic SEO, or if you know where your backlinks have come from, you'll already have the answer.

    If the backlinks are profile links, comment spam, blog networks etc, then that will easily explain the drop.
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    • Profile picture of the author SarahMcCrary
      Originally Posted by UMS View Post

      Look at your backlinks via Majestic SEO, or if you know where your backlinks have come from, you'll already have the answer.

      If the backlinks are profile links, comment spam, blog networks etc, then that will easily explain the drop.
      Could you please explain how profile links and blog networks are considered spam?
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      • Profile picture of the author markowe
        Originally Posted by SarahMcCrary View Post

        Could you please explain how profile links and blog networks are considered spam?
        The poster you referred to didn't mention spam in relation to those, he said:

        If the backlinks are profile links, comment spam, blog networks etc, then that will easily explain the drop.
        But be that as it may, you must be kidding, right? How are profile links NOT spam, exactly? If you register on my forum, web 2.0, whatever and clog up my resources, with the sole intention of dropping a link, forcing me to spend precious time deleting these profiles, I call that spam.

        As for blog networks, well, they are certainly a form of webspam, since they have nothing of value in terms of content, existing solely to provide backlinks, and have no place in the SERPS.

        Not being sanctimonious, just giving you your explanation.
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        • Profile picture of the author Masterminding
          Originally Posted by markowe View Post

          The poster you referred to didn't mention spam in relation to those, he said:



          But be that as it may, you must be kidding, right? How are profile links NOT spam, exactly? If you register on my forum, web 2.0, whatever and clog up my resources, with the sole intention of dropping a link, forcing me to spend precious time deleting these profiles, I call that spam.

          As for blog networks, well, they are certainly a form of webspam, since they have nothing of value in terms of content, existing solely to provide backlinks, and have no place in the SERPS.

          Not being sanctimonious, just giving you your explanation.
          You're not sanctimonious. You're right.
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          • Profile picture of the author markowe
            Originally Posted by Masterminding View Post

            You're not sanctimonious. You're right.
            DISCLAIMER: I have used blog networks (though am definitely getting away from that, post-Penguin) - I just justify it to myself that it's relatively "victimless" as it is done on blogs created for the purpose, not on some innocent person's site. I still think it's webspam of a sort. As for profile links, NEVER did that except a few manual links on profiles of relevant forums where I am an active participant, which is the point of those links anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Masterminding
      Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

      Depends on when did it happen. If around 24th of April, then you got hit by Penguin update. If it happened yesterday, then it's too early to say something. Could be google dance, could be something else..
      Don't forget that Google Panda is a rolling update, meaning he/she could have just as easily been hit by Panda instead of Penguin.

      Word of advice for the future by the way: follow my cardinal rule for doing SEO. Here it is:

      The more rankings with different keywords, the less risk, and thus the better off you'll be. Then ranking changes won't hit you so hard... unless you're a spammer with a spammy link profile that is
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  • Profile picture of the author jessicagavin
    You must be caught in Google penguin update, Same with me and thousands of people. Make your page flaw less, than wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Thats the problem with Google. It can devastate your business and there is nobody to call or email for a reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author powerofschool
    Some time Goolge panda update the sites with quality of backlinks you have.
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  • Profile picture of the author rcostica
    Google Penguin has focused a lot on the backlink profiles this time. Test have shown that if your backlick profile is made of more than 60-65% the same anchor text, it is considered webspam and sanctioned accordingly. Check if this is the case and adjust accordingly. You can also check your Google Webmaster account for any warnings from Google you may have overlooked.

    If you feel you have been wrongfully sanctioned by Penguin or have fixed the problems breaching Google terms you can submit your site for reconsideration at a special URL (I have too few posts to be able to post a link, sorry)

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author lancejeffersons
    Your site was hit by Google Penguin, you can search the post made by Rand Fishkin on seomoz about the 6 changes seo should make..
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  • Profile picture of the author SarahMcCrary
    Originally Posted by Easy Cash View Post

    Just wondering if anyone has any ideas how to investigate why a website would drop from position 1 (Been there for 4 years) to about page 10 in Google. (Signficant Drop)

    Is there any way to find out what is going on?
    Make sure that you have verified your website with Google Websmasters tool. If not then go to webmasters tool and click "Add a site". Download the HTML code and upload it on the website between <head> & </head> tags. Then click "verify" button.

    If you have already verified your website, visit Google Groups and join Webmasters central forums group. After you join that group, you will see "Post a question" on top. Ask them why your ranking was dropped and they will send a few spammy links. You will probably get the reply within 2 hours. Get backlinks removed from those websites and you will gain the ranking again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josephp
    Maybe your website is hitted bu the penguin update..remove your spam backlinks & try to collect more quality backlinks for your website
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    • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
      Penguin is looking for content and on page SEO. Are there areas where you can improve? What other keywords are you targeting? It would be the Google dance if your website is newer to the rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronny Kibet
    Penguin update for sure... but I feel change is on the way, as I am observing some increase all of a sudden.
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  • Profile picture of the author rizoalbert
    It'll be much better to remember how did you build links.If you did it in spammy way then you definitely cought by google.And you did it naturally then its cause of google dance.
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