The best keyword density after Google Penguin update

alphaomegalady

14 years ago

I still use 2%, max. 3% density but some say it will be better if only 1%, more that 1% is considered as spam.

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scottmacair 14 years ago

Forget about KW density - just make sure the keyword appears once in the many body of text and include a few semantic variations.
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- alloviroid 14 years ago
  
  I made few changes. Now using less keyword density rather than using 3% i started 2%. If anybody have another idea please share.
  
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- M_Usman 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by scottmacair
  
  Forget about KW density - just make sure the keyword appears once in the many body of text and include a few semantic variations.
  
  Okay you're 100% right.....! but what about 1% - 1.5% is it okay or not?
  
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makqlex00

14 years ago

I am using 3% right now ..!! Folks is it good for my site ..???

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seoace

14 years ago

Currently I'm doing 0.5% - 1% for my main targeted keywords on my new sites.

Previously I was doing 1-2.5% and no problems there.

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ownergolan

14 years ago

Best keyword density is not to care about density. Period.

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Prateek Dwivedi

14 years ago

Roughly 1%. but there is no hard and fast rule. The key is to understand the power of LSI keywords too.

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jasono

14 years ago

I'm using less than 2% and more than 1%. I think that looks really natural.

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markowe

14 years ago

3.746%. EXACTLY.

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wackiin 13 years ago

EXACTLY lmao
Ive been using 3% since the first update and never changed and no problems

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3.746%. EXACTLY.
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adam337

14 years ago

2-3% is standard. But not more than 4%.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

If your stuffing keywords, shoot for 100% density/stuffing.

Don't hold back, go for broke!

[j/k]

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dp40oz

14 years ago

Keyword density is such a thing of the past. I am very surprised people still worry about this. You guys do know you can rank a page that doesn't even have the keyword anywhere on the page.

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Jac0b

12 years ago

Originally Posted by dp40oz

Keyword density is such a thing of the past. I am very surprised people still worry about this. You guys do know you can rank a page that doesn't even have the keyword anywhere on the page.

Really!? I wonder how?

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C Rebecca

14 years ago

Keyword density was never an issue... None of the search engines' guidelines define any specific density.
But its a webmaster's responsibility to keep it as natural as possible so as not to hamper the user experience.

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alisarozzy

14 years ago

No should more than 4% i think.

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bettylarany

14 years ago

3%-8% before
1%-2% now

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multiplecloud

14 years ago

I think keyword density do not play in ranking right now. However it can play in other part of penalized trap for those who stuffing keyword density in article

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MarvyDery

14 years ago

I think anything between 2% - 5% is ok. But you need to make sure the keywords make sense in the post and also you reduce the internal and outbound links within the post.

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ellenpage

14 years ago

I use Seoquake check my keyword density. It show 1.07 %.

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smitholivia

14 years ago

I have never bothered about keyword density,I just use keyword naturally means keyword insertion should look natural.

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kristeena

13 years ago

1 to 1.5% is better.
Minimum 4-6 LSI keywords also must be used in very natural way.

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kenyob 13 years ago

My Guess...
Pre-Penguin
3-4%
Post penguin
more natural usage 1-3%

This of course always depends on how the target keyword is used in the Title and H tags and I still think that Google has some weight on these items because they are like subconscious metadata.

Variations are always important but natural, relevant, well written content trumps injecting keywords to increase density or removing to reduce the density at the expense of the language and readability.
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- tylerherman 13 years ago
  
  If you are worried about keyword density you're doing it wrong
  
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QWE

13 years ago

I've tested on thousands of pages. You don't need any keyword in the body as long as the page content is relevant to the keyword in your title and description tag. What really matters is the contextual backlinks with varying anchor tags.

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dcary13

12 years ago

Originally Posted by QWE

I've tested on thousands of pages. You don't need any keyword in the body as long as the page content is relevant to the keyword in your title and description tag. What really matters is the contextual backlinks with varying anchor tags.

Sounds good beside the fact that google did not use the description tag anymore since like 2 years or so.

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dirocket

13 years ago

3% is perfect density

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RevSEO

13 years ago

Less than 4% is ideal, anything more and your are pushing the limits.

Also make sure that 4% is spread throughout the article. Google's looking for keyword stuffing, so if you have all of the variations of they keyword above the fold, that could easily be misconstrued as keyword stuffing.

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gPlayer

13 years ago

I am using 3% and found no problem at all.

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headmaster211

Banned 13 years ago

2-3% is working for me at the moment. Earlier I used to go for 4-5%. I also use 5-6 LSI keywords to provide relevance. This should work for you as well.

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indiainternet2012

13 years ago

boss i use only 2 to 3 % keyword density..it is always good either before or after google update...
you can use your keywords extra but with some synonyms..

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getano

13 years ago

"Keyword density" is a very stupid thing in the current SEO world. Forget you even heard about it.

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alloviroid 13 years ago

Originally Posted by getano

"Keyword density" is a very stupid thing in the current SEO world. Forget you even heard about it.

That is also right. The main thing is that what content used should be relevant to the theme.
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aliwaji

13 years ago

2% - 4% is the best density for keywords. More than it could be listed you in trouble. The best SEO for your website will help you doing good in Google rankings.

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b4uindia

13 years ago

I think you shall not go more than 2 % Keyword Density post penguin world.

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CyborgX

13 years ago

I've never checked the keyword density. but always said no more than seven times throughout the page, including the navigation links and other none content instances.

In content, three is enough for Google to understand. Also, considering Google is much better at LSI now, you don't really have to worry about keywords at all, just insert them naturally.

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13 years ago

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AndyBlackSEO

13 years ago

Don't think of it as keyword density for just one keyword. Find out all the relevant words used in top rankings content for that keyword and then identify the ideal density for each one.

Finding out your "core" LSI words and keeping within the freshold is what will make a difference when comparing test A) and test B).

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shadowcat

13 years ago

Previously Only the core targeted Keyword was sufficient but lately to add diversification is a wise idea.
A mix and match of
Relevant Anchor : Partial Relevant Anchor : Irrelevant Anchor: Naked URL
2:2:1:1

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drem

13 years ago

I try to keep it as natural as possible. Sure, some clients want a 2% or higher density at times. However, this doesn't always mean it comes off as natural. I try sprinkling in LSI keywords throughout the article and making it flow naturally.

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wally247

13 years ago

The "best" KW density is to STOP worrying about KW density.

Don't count it, unless you are stuffing, then count it and subtract a shitload.

Put it in at the beginning naturally, use LSI throughout and get it in maybe once more at the end.....that's all you need to do.

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schgrv

12 years ago

Now a day’s keyword density is not figured out as a single metric as Google does not crawl a page and tabulate the keywords that are used again and again. Instead, it analyzes each word on the page and gives it weight, depending on its popularity and location. Now It’s more important that, how to use the keyword rather than how many times to use the keyword.

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webnerd

12 years ago

I'll be starting a new site soon and I was just wondering people's thoughts on this after all the Google updates. It would be great if I could just use the keyword I'm trying to rank for once in the title and description but is this the wrong way to do it?

Any thoughts are appreciated

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

You know, I don't think you can get a straight answer cause no one knows.

I can tell you what works for me though.

I use the keyword phrase in the title and if its a blog post or you tube video or whatever I use it as the poster also. I use it in the description and I use it three times in the article unless its a small article.

I try to at least.

The way I really feel, if your a great writer you don't need to worry about it cause it will all wash in the end. Great content is great content and that is all there is to it.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

You know, I don't think you can get a straight answer cause no one knows.

Since density is a nice word for keyword stuffing, stuff your page full of your target keyword, sit back & wait it out for a reindex. It's not like Google will see the page over optimized, lol. Good luck with that.

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

LoL at you, I don't think three times for a keyword phrase is stuffing and if you do then you must not even use keywords in your pages. Three times for a 750 to 1000 word article I think is probably under doing it wouldn't you say.

Originally Posted by yukon

Since density is a nice word for keyword stuffing, stuff your page full of your target keyword, sit back & wait it out for a reindex. It's not like Google will see the page over optimized, lol. Good luck with that.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

LoL at you, I don't think three times for a keyword phrase is stuffing and if you do then you must not even use keywords in your pages. Three times for a 750 to 1000 word article I think is probably under doing it wouldn't you say.

Your still counting... :rolleyes:

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

Yeah and counting words is not keyword stuffing. It is when the web page is loaded with keywords. Stuffing means lot's, get it. Stuff the bear, Stocking stuffer, Stuff it.
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keyword stuffing
Web definitions
Keyword stuffing is considered to be an unethical search engine optimization (SEO) technique. Keyword stuffing occurs when a web page is loaded with keywords in the meta tags or in content. The repetition of words in meta tags may explain why many search engines no longer use these tags.
Keyword stuffing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by yukon

Your still counting... :rolleyes:

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

Yeah and counting words is not keyword stuffing. It is when the web page is loaded with keywords. Stuffing means lot's, get it. Stuff the bear, Stocking stuffer, Stuff it.
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keyword stuffing
Web definitions
Keyword stuffing is considered to be an unethical search engine optimization (SEO) technique. Keyword stuffing occurs when a web page is loaded with keywords in the meta tags or in content. The repetition of words in meta tags may explain why many search engines no longer use these tags.
Keyword stuffing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Stocking stuffer? :confused:

You went all Wikipedia definition, ha, ha.

Hilarious!

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hustlinsmoke 12 years ago

I can't believe I am arguing with someone with 11,000 posts in three years that density does not mean stuffing. If I sat home all day and did nothing but post I think I would know what keyword density means. Heck I know what density means.

I'm out of here because to argue with someone that says keyword density means keyword stuffing is ludicrous.

Originally Posted by yukon

Stocking stuffer? :confused:

You went all Wikipedia definition, ha, ha.

Hilarious!
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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

Yes we do know not to overdo it, but we still do not know if one time two times three times or 2.7 percent is right. Now you can take my post out of context all you want.

The fact is no one knows how google scores and if you think you do then maybe you need to be all that and more.

Originally Posted by yukon

Since density is a nice word for keyword stuffing, stuff your page full of your target keyword, sit back & wait it out for a reindex. It's not like Google will see the page over optimized, lol. Good luck with that.

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hustlinsmoke

12 years ago

And density has no meaning to keyword stuffing even though everyone says that.
Density means The density of a substance is its mass per unit volume. which means zero percent is the density or 2.7 percent is the density.

Density does not mean keyword stuffing and never has.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

And density has no meaning to keyword stuffing even though everyone says that.
Density means The density of a substance is its mass per unit volume. which means zero percent is the density or 2.7 percent is the density.

Density does not mean keyword stuffing and never has.

Your counting keywords, therefore keyword stuffing.

It's not nearly as complicated as your making it out to be.

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streetpipscom 12 years ago

Keyword density always matter.
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jonnyhardbaked 12 years ago

Don't be too stressed out with that. You just have to mention your target keywords to your content and make sure that you land it properly.

Latent Semantic Idexing is a good way also to diversify your keywords.

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masterbis 12 years ago

I saw that blogspot (naked domain, no custom domain) have a nice place in google.
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Moneymaker2012 12 years ago

Keyword Density is still an average factor for seo butthere are more important factors like quality backlinks, content
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- aygabtu 12 years ago
  
  Keyword density matters, but focus on writing naturally and quality content. It is good to check/confirm though that you didn't go underboard or overboard on your keywords, or any words.
  
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greatwriter

12 years ago

I am writing blog posts for a new website that I want to set up. I am not sure how many times I should include the keywords in the articles. My articles are generally 500 words - 1, 000 words long. What keyword density should I use and is keyword density important (as long as I am not spamming keywords in articles)?
At the moment, I am using keywords 3-4 times in the articles.

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altonroot 12 years ago

To be honest with you, there is no hard rule how many times you should use.keyword or links in your article. All the things are accepted as far as they looks natural. Links must be value added to the topic on which they are put. So two more important things are it must look natural and must add some value to the current topic.
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Syed Raza 12 years ago

Many SEO Experts says that Keyword density between 2-3% is best for SEO Purpose. Using more keywords on a webpage may be taken as spam.
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- larryboy03 12 years ago
  
  Iv found it doesnt matter, I think keeping the articles naturally written will rank better. I normally go by 1% no more than 2%.
  
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reddy183 12 years ago

Hi Greatwriter,

I agree with Syed Raza reply according many SEO experts keyword density is 2-3% is best for SEO purpose according to Google present trends.

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- JSProjects 12 years ago
  
  Worry more about making sure your content flows well, instead of trying to come up with the perfect keyword density.
  
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beasty513 12 years ago

I do no more than 2% and keep have a diversity

of synonyms to keep it "natural"
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