After one month of Magic Submitter

13 years ago

Never used it, sounds like an outdated little backlinking plan though.

How does your onsite SEO hold up? Very tough competition?

Like I said, I've never used the software, nor do I know anything about it but those could be factors.

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GGpaul

13 years ago

Originally Posted by InternetJon

Never used it, sounds like an outdated little backlinking plan though.

How does your onsite SEO hold up? Very tough competition?

Like I said, I've never used the software, nor do I know anything about it but those could be factors.

Pretty tough competition. My onpage is pretty decent. I've used the right h1 tags, have the keywords in there and it's NOT just sprinkled all over. It makes sense for sure. About 1000 words. h2 tags, along with supporting articles (about 4 supporting articles) anchor text (silo structured). Alt image tag.

This page was ranked 7 at one point, stayed steady at 18, now 44.

I haven't messed around with social media such as twitter and FB pages. I don't know if that will help. Maybe it won't help with backlinking, but hopefully it will cause more traffic, and who knows someone can approach it and make an article that will backlink to my site? =D

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WraithSarko

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

Of course a program like that is suffering after Panda. The 'magic submissions' all go the same low-level websites. They're getting millions of bookmarks/updates a minute, rendering them all useless.

Links need to come from trusted sources these days, especially on-topic ones. 'Push-button' magic SEO programs are dead

Originally Posted by awj888

with automation the problem is you really need to be making loads of links for only a small % to count, chances are you didnt make enough -

now wait! (before someone comes slap me for what I just said)

the problem is that the quality of the links is very low, you would get much more value taking the monthly cost or even yearly cost of running automated SEO push button software and using it on outsourcing some high quality manual links from good sources.
the differences being 1 link done well;will crush 1000 links done badly.
so why not make 100s done well

ps.
some automation is great - such as account creation the problem is when you go and make them on all the same sites as everyone else

Originally Posted by ddev

Agree with Awj888. Backlinks from many of those sites won't help so much (low quality).

Have any of you even used Magic Submitter?

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mosthost

13 years ago

Of course a program like that is suffering after Panda. The 'magic submissions' all go the same low-level websites. They're getting millions of bookmarks/updates a minute, rendering them all useless.

Links need to come from trusted sources these days, especially on-topic ones. 'Push-button' magic SEO programs are dead

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awj888

13 years ago

with automation the problem is you really need to be making loads of links for only a small % to count, chances are you didnt make enough -

now wait! (before someone comes slap me for what I just said)

the problem is that the quality of the links is very low, you would get much more value taking the monthly cost or even yearly cost of running automated SEO push button software and using it on outsourcing some high quality manual links from good sources.
the differences being 1 link done well;will crush 1000 links done badly.
so why not make 100s done well

ps.
some automation is great - such as account creation the problem is when you go and make them on all the same sites as everyone else

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nouvellevie

13 years ago

Thanks for the update

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13 years ago

Agree with Awj888. Backlinks from many of those sites won't help so much (low quality).

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DeskCoder

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I think after one month of using magic submitter, I can honestly say that this product isn't for me. I honestly don't know if this program became ineffective after penguin came out. But I did watch the vids, read the pdf files blah blah blah. Used proxies, captcha's, etc. etc. I submitted to web 20, articles, wiki links and what not. And none of my sites really improved.

Can anyone else tell me if their sites are ranking while using Magic Submitter?

Did you go back and customize all your web 2.0 submissions? You need to add videos to them, backgrounds, whatever ... make them look legit.

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GGpaul

13 years ago

Hmmm okay so I noticed it signs you up to a bunch of web 2.0 blogs, wikis , article submission. Rather than spinning an article and blasting it all over, can I just post ONE at a time with a high quality article? Yes it will be less backlinking, but more of high quality?

I just don't understand how people are ranking with these "blasting" softwares. On top of that, I am using tiers. Super unique content on the first tier where I add vids, pics etc. And then I use the next tier to blast out links to the first tier, where the first tier obviously leads to the $$ site.

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TheProgrammer

13 years ago

Without the exact strategy plan you can't get results whatever you do manual submission or automatic. Do you think it is really easy to cheat google just with blasting links to 1000s of sites?

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GGpaul

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TheProgrammer

Without the exact strategy plan you can't get results whatever you do manual submission or automatic. Do you think it is really easy to cheat google just with blasting links to 1000s of sites?

Follow this

I'll give it one last shot and update all.

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mosthost

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I'll give it one last shot and update all.

Trust your instincts and dump this loser program

The only ones pushing it are affiliates. Backlinks from websites like piratezone.us (the type of bookmarking site that MS submits too) are worthless.

The reason?

Because the site itself is useless and worthless. Why? Because it allows open submissions without moderation. That means LOTS of junk links from lots of JUNK webmasters. Google knows this and ignores the links.

Worse, if you OVERDO it and submit to too many of these garbage backlinks your website will be demoted because of a spam profile.

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TheProgrammer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

Trust your instincts and dump this loser program

The only ones pushing it are affiliates. Backlinks from websites like piratezone.us (the type of bookmarking site that MS submits too) are worthless.

The reason?

Because the site itself is useless and worthless. Why? Because it allows open submissions without moderation. That means LOTS of junk links from lots of JUNK webmasters. Google knows this and ignores the links.

Worse, if you OVERDO it and submit to too many of these garbage backlinks your website will be demoted because of a spam profile.

No offence to you because you know nothing about softwares.
http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...er-review.html

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mosthost

13 years ago

Originally Posted by TheProgrammer

No offence to you because you know nothing about softwares.
http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...er-review.html

I am offended, as your comment was offensive.

Magic Submitter is an expensive option at $67/month. It's usefulness is questionable. All it does is automate the 'blasting' of tons of low-quality links from questionable sources. After the last few Google updates that method is declining in effectiveness. I'm sure you realized that by now.

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dennis09

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

All it does is automate the 'blasting' of tons of low-quality links from questionable sources.

You obviously have never used the program. Obvious BS is obvious.

Same thing goes for anyone else claiming the program doesn't "work". It does exactly what its supposed to do, you just need to learn how to use it properly.

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dennis09

You obviously have never used the program. Obvious BS is obvious.

Same thing goes for anyone else claiming the program doesn't "work". It does exactly what its supposed to do, you just need to learn how to use it properly.

Actually, he is right. It creates zero high quality links. It can be a useful tool, but if you are looking for high quality links, look elsewhere.

This is coming from a big fan of Magic Submitter.

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dennis09

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Actually, he is right. It creates zero high quality links. It can be a useful tool, but if you are looking for high quality links, look elsewhere.

This is coming from a big fan of Magic Submitter.

No, actually both of you are wrong. You can program your own sites into Magic Submitter, so the "all it does" crap is BS. You can have it do just about anything you're clever enough to program. People are just too lazy to learn the program and go out and find high quality sites to add.

If you don't want to go through that trouble then you need to delete all the crappy sites from the program, hell which still requires a lot of work (unless you use scrapebox to help).

This is coming from a successful MS user, and not an affiliate.

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MikeFriedman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dennis09

No, actually both of you are wrong. You can program your own sites into Magic Submitter, so the "all it does" crap is BS. People are just too lazy to learn the program and go out and find high quality sites to add.

If you don't want to go through that trouble then you need to delete all the crappy sites from the program, hell which still requires a lot of work (unless you use scrapebox to help).

This is coming from a successful MS user, and not an affiliate.

Yes, you can add your own sites. I just meant on its own out of the box, it lacks the ability to create anything other than low quality links.

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MikeFriedman 13 years ago

Here's what people do not understand about a program like Magic Submitter. It is never going to get you ranked for any keyword that is the least bit competitive. People think with software like this that you can just push some magic button (no pun intended) and all their SEO problems will go away. Forget it.

Magic Submitter is really only to automate things you would be doing by hand anyhow. If you are developing an SEO plan around Magic Submitter, you are doing it ass backwards. You should have an SEO plan/strategy, and if what Magic Submitter does can help speed along some of the steps of that plan, then by all means use it. If not, you are wasting your time and money.

There is no way that setting up a few Web 2.0 accounts, spinning articles (which is just plain dumb in its own right), and firing out bookmarks one after another is going to get you ranked for 99.99% of worthwhile keywords.

Figure out what you are doing SEO-wise, then determine if Magic Submitter makes sense or not for you.
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Michael_Le

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

Trust your instincts and dump this loser program

The only ones pushing it are affiliates. Backlinks from websites like piratezone.us (the type of bookmarking site that MS submits too) are worthless.

The reason?

Because the site itself is useless and worthless. Why? Because it allows open submissions without moderation. That means LOTS of junk links from lots of JUNK webmasters. Google knows this and ignores the links.

Worse, if you OVERDO it and submit to too many of these garbage backlinks your website will be demoted because of a spam profile.

im not an affiliate, ive been using MS after dumping senuke. its useless and worthless to people who cant be bothered to learn how to build links properly and just blast thousands of links at once and they wonder why their site gets slapped.

if it was so useless why is it there are thousands of users? i would suggest you speak from real experience rather than made up bullsh!t

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retsek

13 years ago

SEO isn't magic, stop trying to do magic tricks ?

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patco

13 years ago

Yeah... Don't use MS, it will NOT help your website rank better. Try to find RELEVANT backlinks from trusted websites

// not just get backlinks from websites with thousands of other OBL's

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newsk

13 years ago

I believe MS is one of the best tools in the market , unlike senuke where you cant fix the sites & you've to wait developers to do that , I like MS because you can automate anykind of sites, fix the broken once, add new platforms , just think out the box

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Nicky Papers

13 years ago

Is there a built-in spinner integrated within Magic Submitter?

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NoobAdsenseWarrior

13 years ago

i dont understand people who claim software like magic submitter / senuke x are ****.. the point of these softwares is to save you time.. but some people expect these softwares to get them ranked 1st just by blasting tons of links at there sites.. and they both have high quality sites..and magic submitter also has the option to add your own sites.. so it all comes down to the user - the software is to save you time not a magic pill.. if you dont have a linkbuilding plan then dont waste ya money on these tools

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Michael_Le

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by NoobAdsenseWarrior

i dont understand people who claim software like magic submitter / senuke x are ****.. the point of these softwares is to save you time.. but some people expect these softwares to get them ranked 1st just by blasting tons of links at there sites.. and they both have high quality sites..and magic submitter also has the option to add your own sites.. so it all comes down to the user - the software is to save you time not a magic pill.. if you dont have a linkbuilding plan then dont waste ya money on these tools

well said.....

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aaron86

13 years ago

dont used software my friend much better used manual method in promotion to look natural in Google.

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sadneck

13 years ago

I personally think Internet Marketers need to rethink their strategies with todays new world, (The world that now exists after Google Panda.) Its simple, we need to adapt or die.

The point of what we do is clear, we need to get more visitors to our sites, but how we do it needs to change. Gone are the days were backlinks from submission softwares are rewarded in any way shape or form. Google Panda has in fact done away with mass submission of backlinks days. It has done the opposite for videos and if anyone has noticed, videos are being given more results per a google search page, (sometimes half of a search result page is a video result.)

We need to rethink how we are to capture our audience.

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NoobAdsenseWarrior

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sadneck

I personally think Internet Marketers need to rethink their strategies with todays new world, (The world that now exists after Google Panda.) Its simple, we need to adapt or die.

The point of what we do is clear, we need to get more visitors to our sites, but how we do it needs to change. Gone are the days were backlinks from submission softwares are rewarded in any way shape or form. Google Panda has in fact done away with mass submission of backlinks days. It has done the opposite for videos and if anyone has noticed, videos are being given more results per a google search page, (sometimes half of a search result page is a video result.)

We need to rethink how we are to capture our audience.

~Andrew

I agree with the video side of things its super easy to rank a youtube video on google.. but the rest isnt true..
it all comes down to velocity and diversity if you consistent with your link building and vary your anchor text then you will have no problems but if you think you can spam your site with tons of the same links then that will give you problems..

WORK HARD AND SMART!

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NoobAdsenseWarrior 13 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron86

dont used software my friend much better used manual method in promotion to look natural in Google.

theres no difference between manual or using software to do the same task.. the point of the software is to save you time.. google can not detect if you built these links by hand or not..
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