Onpage Optimization - Nobody ever GETS It

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Now there is no way that I am saying a know the Google code or some sort of secret about onpage optimization, but in my experience, I find it hard to come by a website which has a superb onpage SEO setup.

Google is constantly updating their algorithms and most recently cracking down on over-optimization, yet so many people think that cramming their keywords into every corner of their website is the best strategy.

Last week I literally had someone arguing that their website had "perfect" onpage SEO.

Of the 3 images on their homepage, they all had this code:

<img src = "how-to-lose-weight.jpg" name = "how-to-lose-weight" alt = "how to lose weight">

While this strategy will work in certain circumstances, it is not usually the best. What works best for me every time is some simple intuitive thinking...

My advice is don't treat the search engines like a robot, they are much smarter and more advanced than you may think. Treat them as the smartest person you know, and you will naturally be on their good side.

An example of something I would do with the above image code would be:

<img src = "weight-loss-tips.jpg" name = "best-method-to-losing-weight" alt = "how to shed those pounds">

Even though I am targeting the keyword "how to lose weight", I do not necessarily put this into my code.

Google can make the connection between similar key phrases, meaning that stuffing your only keywords all over your webpages may just seem like a spam tactic to the big G.

This theory not only belongs to image codes but everything else that involves your onpage SEO.

Again, I am not saying I am any sort of expert or guru in SEO, but I do a LOT of split testing and SEO coaching which allows me to see first hand the effects of small onpage changes.

This is not new news either, just a refresher on what you can do to improve the way the search engines see your website.

Cheers,
Dave
#onpage #optimization
  • Profile picture of the author ellenpage
    I see what you say is LSI keywords ?
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

    Of the 3 images on their homepage, they all had this code:

    <img src = "how-to-lose-weight.jpg" name = "how-to-lose-weight" alt = "how to lose weight">
    I use that exact setup. But only when I am building links from a third party website to my target website.

    I recently helped a client deal with an over-optimization penalty and it had to do with WAY TO MANY internal links targeting the same four keyword phrases. Like 3 years of blog posts, all of which targeted the same four keyword phrases. lol

    I think if your website has only a handful of images, there is nothing wrong with optimizing them like the above example. Google's not going to punish you for it. However, if you have 500 total internal links and 400 of them target four keywords...well...you will no longer rank for those four keywords.

    The thing with these kinds of penalties is that only the most egregious offenders will get slapped. However, Google is definitely headed in a certain direction and implementing the advice of the OP is a long term strategy that will ensure you will never have to worry about getting slapped with an over-optimization penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author peatermead
    @dadamson: I think you have made some good points. Your tips are also good from LSI point of view as well..
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

    Now there is no way that I am saying a know the Google code or some sort of secret about onpage optimization, but in my experience, I find it hard to come by a website which has a superb onpage SEO setup.

    Google is constantly updating their algorithms and most recently cracking down on over-optimization, yet so many people think that cramming their keywords into every corner of their website is the best strategy.
    Dave
    That's funny. Google has been publishing guides and webmaster guidelines
    for years. And nothing on that front has changed.

    As for algo changes, they make to keep people from shmoozing their
    search engine.

    But nothing has changed. What they said to do years ago, is what they
    say now. A louder voice and more militant attitude does not mean
    the rules have changed.

    You,re wrong. Nobody ever gets it? Well, some people do. It's
    not hard.

    If people want the same ol' same ol' from google, here
    it is:
    http://static.googleusercontent.com/...rter-guide.pdf
    They've never shied from giving webmasters the real info.

    Problem is, with onpage SEO, people take one line from google, and
    abuse it. From title to url structure. It's like the impatient patient
    syndrome. Gee doc, if one pill makes me feel great, I'm going to
    take 5! If one keyphrase in a title works great, I'd better do it twice!
    And so on...


    Paul
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    If you were disappointed in your results today, lower your standards tomorrow.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

    Now there is no way that I am saying a know the Google code or some sort of secret about onpage optimization, but in my experience, I find it hard to come by a website which has a superb onpage SEO setup.

    Google is constantly updating their algorithms and most recently cracking down on over-optimization, yet so many people think that cramming their keywords into every corner of their website is the best strategy.

    Last week I literally had someone arguing that their website had "perfect" onpage SEO.

    Of the 3 images on their homepage, they all had this code:

    <img src = "how-to-lose-weight.jpg" name = "how-to-lose-weight" alt = "how to lose weight">

    While this strategy will work in certain circumstances, it is not usually the best. What works best for me every time is some simple intuitive thinking...

    My advice is don't treat the search engines like a robot, they are much smarter and more advanced than you may think. Treat them as the smartest person you know, and you will naturally be on their good side.

    An example of something I would do with the above image code would be:

    <img src = "weight-loss-tips.jpg" name = "best-method-to-losing-weight" alt = "how to shed those pounds">

    Even though I am targeting the keyword "how to lose weight", I do not necessarily put this into my code.

    Google can make the connection between similar key phrases, meaning that stuffing your only keywords all over your webpages may just seem like a spam tactic to the big G.

    This theory not only belongs to image codes but everything else that involves your onpage SEO.

    Again, I am not saying I am any sort of expert or guru in SEO, but I do a LOT of split testing and SEO coaching which allows me to see first hand the effects of small onpage changes.

    This is not new news either, just a refresher on what you can do to improve the way the search engines see your website.

    Cheers,
    Dave


    I'm not sure why your using the name="" tag, are you mapping out an image with clickable X & Y coordinates?

    I think it would be a good idea for OP to remove that image name="" from the example in OP because I guarantee some new guys/gals will use that name="" tag when they don't even have a use for it.

    I have a lot of images ranked in Google text search, I'll say this, Google doesn't care If you give multiple images the same alt-text, those images can still be ranked in the SERPs.
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I'm not sure why your using the name="" tag, are you mapping out an image with clickable X & Y coordinates?

      I think it would be a good idea for OP to remove that image name="" from the example in OP because I guarantee some new guys/gals will use that name="" tag when they don't even have a use for it.

      I have a lot of images ranked in Google text search, I'll say this, Google doesn't care If you give multiple images the same alt-text, those images can still be ranked in the SERPs.
      I think he meant to say "Title =" ??
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

        I think he meant to say "Title =" ??
        Maybe, although the spelling is a little off (name vs. title).

        Still that name="" tag will only confuse some people new to SEO.
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