SEO Link Monster is back??

That sounds a whole lot like, "We didn't change much of anything, but we will gladly take your money again."

I would like to see some people posting about their recovered rankings like they claim in that message.

Thanks for the link.

I just read the entire thread, post for post. Seems to me that Google slapped a portion of their network, a few customers happened to have links on those networks, and Google slapped the customers as well.

Scary stuff...

I'll tell you what I'll do though:

1) I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and take SEOLM on their word that they have taken serious steps and revamped their network, just like the email said. In other words, I'll be the guinea pig and give it a shot cus I'm bored and have nothing better to do...

2) I'll post my results here. I'm thinking that if they in fact DIDN'T solve the recent de-indexing issues, that would mean they are falsely advertising their product, and using unethical business practices. In that case, they will surely lose their reputation on any future en devours, at least for those who read this thread.

I signed up about 3 hours ago with 1 article with 3 links embedded. 1 or 2 homepage links with several variants of the target keyword, and the 3rd link with an inner page also with keyword variants.

Within 2 hours, the stats chart updated telling me that 14 posts have successfully been made.

One of the columns shows the age of the sites where the posts were made. Theres a range between 2006 and 2012

There is a screenshot/thumbnail column where you're SUPPOSED to be able to view the website where the article has been posted instead of a direct URL (to conserve the integrity of their network of course). As of today, when you try to view the screenshot, a pop-up message displays "Feature coming soon..."

Well, so far so good I guess. We'll see how quickly the posts get indexed and I'll keep a close eye on the SERPS

But on a side note, does anyone know any information on whether SEO Link Vine sites also got de-indexed or what the status is on that end? I still use it every so often and my rankings are holding steady and actually slowly increasing...

Seems like you're one of those who likes barking for the sake of barking..

I am not promoting SEO Link Monster. I am looking for a legitimate link building service and came across them. Unlike some people, I like to experience things for myself and draw my own conclusions. You are in no position to demote or praise this service since you yourself have not tried the service. Therefore your statements are irrelevant.

In any case, and this is the last time I respond to your invalid arguments, you miss the point of this thread. The point is, I am doing a case study on SEO Link Monster after they have said, "All is well". I am trying to determine whether or not their statements are true. After all, it's one thing to read some posts about other people's experiences, and it's another thing to make statements about a service you have never personally experienced yourself.

And the "other people's experiences" I am referring to is the 4 page thread listed in the above post, where some people have had a very bad experience with SEOLM. If you notice, the complaints (which I'm sure have validity...because they did TRY the service), are coming from the same people with several posts from each person. Some of those complaints were explained away by SEOLM, as the users did not correctly post articles, abused the service in some way, or just simply SEOLM had an error. With that said, the issues that drew my attention the most was the fact that many sites in the network became de-indexed. In which they said they have removed and replaced those sites. If you use a little big of logic, and analyze the thread mentioned above, you'll find that the answer is still...unanswered. The question being...DOES SEO LINK MONSTER WORK?

Fast forward a couple months...they close, revamp, reopen.

I'm simply digging up the evidence of whether this service works or not. They said they've solved the issues. I will test and see if this is true. If it's true, that's great. If its not, I click a couple of buttons and get a refund. Never once have I seen SEOLM or any other their other products refuse to give refunds.

So, did I waste $147? Absolutely not.

Again, I am not defending them, I am simply laying out the facts how I see them.

And in response to your comment about me being impressed:

Yes. I'm impressed. And in case you didn't read the post and just shot words out...

This is a monthly service of $147/mo. The keyword here is $147 a MONTH.

Not a day, not a week, not an hour. A MONTH.

I am impressed because only a few hours after I signed up, I had 1 post indexed by GOOGLE. I expect more indexed posts when I check the stats again after I'm done responding to your irrelevant posts.

If they're posting 14 posts a day, and Google is indexing those posts, that means a ton of links over a MONTH. Remember...a MONTH costs $147, not a day, hour, or week.

Let me explain again for those of you who need to read things more than once..

I signed up. Submitted 1 article. The article was almost immediately posted onto 14 sites. A few hours later, Google indexed 1 of the 14 sites. For a so-called "dead", "joke of a site", "whatever else you can say", that is impressive to me. I have not checked since then but I will update the thread in a few minutes for a "12 hours later" update.

Ok then, I would appreciate constructive criticism, but not blatant ignorant posts. I will now continue with my case study.

That's the problem with most SEO and marketing advice on this forum

Do you know any alternative to them, could you suggest other companies pleas!

xpirtdesign,

I think you misunderstood my posts. I was not criticizing you or your case study. I was simply pointing out, for those who are new or never heard of the ****storm known as SEOLM, that people in the past had a LOT of problems with this network, and even if your experiment in using this network has some positive results, that is still just one example versus quite a few bad experiences. My criticism was toward SEOLM.

Even if your study goes well, people should still be very cautious in using this network. In the past, people posted about having trouble getting refunds that were promised. The network, even after being virtually destroyed by Google, was still sold and marketed as strong as ever and gave unknowing customers no indication that there was anything wrong. While other networks, like BMR, showed general concern for their clients and immediately shut their doors, took down links when asked, refunded clients when appropriate, and quickly communicated with their customers, SEOLM was silent for weeks.

Also, I saw the message you posted earlier that you know took down which outlined the "changes" they made to the network. That was an old message they posted months ago.

I hope people realize that there are no changes a public network can make to keep it safe from being deindexed. They can have all the NDA's, hosting accounts, Wordpress themes, grammar checkers, and whatever other nonsense they want. All it takes is for 1 customer to post on a forum somewhere about using SEOLM on a site and either put the site in the post or have it in their signature. From there, Google can pull all the backlinks of that site and identify blog network sites. It's pretty easy. They are the ones with poorly spun articles, 1-3 links in every post, usually multiple posts a day, tons of different categories and unrelated topics, and they normally have a text header, no custom graphic header.

Then, they take all the sites linked to from those network sites, pull their backlinks, and repeat the whole process. A little time consuming, but not difficult at all.

They dont display the pr but guarantee a good mix. Cant see if thats true yet but ill soon find out.

Not sure how circulation works yet

Thanks for biting the bullet for us all... you just saved me $147

BMR was NOT a private network. Like Yukon said, it was very public. That was the problem. Not to mention that the structure of sites in any of these public networks is easy to identify.

The site has many good quality backlinks and currently is an authority in the niche. In the top 10 for all related keywords for sure and has been for years. I wonder if Google will simply devalue the bad links or they will actually penalize the site altogether.

But you do bring up a good point...

Negative SEO, which is going to cause a huge problem for Google if they continue down their path..

A site I had for a while that had established rankings, but not a money site.

I wanted to use a somewhat of a decent site that had some age and content, and decent links for the test. However, a site that I was willing to let go of.

Agreed, that's the tin-foil hat conspiracy SEO method, lol.

Also, most of the guys that believe that GA & GWT are setting them up, also run Adsense, that part is just hilarious. They won't run GA or GWT, but they will run Adsense all day long with no thought that Adsense is tracking every little move the site/pages make.

Funny stuff.

I've already duplicated my site to a new domain and new server - the domain is 5 months old with initial content on it to avoid the godaddy splash page. I'm keeping the old site until I know for sure what the situation will be. So basically I have 2 of the same site with the same content. I've blocked search engines to the 2nd site until I change the content. Then i'll be ready to do some high quality SEO

1) Did you change the content when you did the switch to a new domain?
2) Were the keywords you were targeting on the new domain competitive?
3) Did you deactivate the old site prior to launching the new one?

Retsek, or any other "warrior"...
In case someone received the unnatural links message from Google,
Could not delete all bad links and Did it some , Sent the reconsideration to them,
Received the "manual spam action revoked" message... from them.

Tough, rankings still didnt come back ... ( after 8 long days )
What to do then ?