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How can I rank for this?

by netguy12
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Hey everyone,
Alright, clearly my research skills suck horribly. I got the basic idea of SEO down but anything more than that Im really struggling with.

I wanted to try and rank for the keyword "land auction", when I google it the first thing I see is 244,000,000 results. So of course I shaked my head and wanted to cry haha. I then started to check the first 2 pages of google and noticed that a lot of the top ranking sites have a couple of thousand back links (1k-3k) backlinks to be exact, and the keywords for some of them arent "land auction" but clearly its in the right category. Everything that was on the 2nd page had a couple of hundred backlinks, I know backlinks arent everything but if someone can point me in the right direction that would be great.
#keyword #rank
  • Profile picture of the author WillMitchell
    You're really gunna have to jump in and learn how to do keyword research at some point. If you don't have the research skill to find even that basic knowledge, your ventures as an entrepreneur will be very depressing and uneventful.
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    • Profile picture of the author netguy12
      No kidding, Im trying to read up on it but as well all know...its never ending.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

    Hey everyone,
    Alright, clearly my research skills suck horribly. I got the basic idea of SEO down but anything more than that Im really struggling with.

    I wanted to try and rank for the keyword "land auction", when I google it the first thing I see is 244,000,000 results. So of course I shaked my head and wanted to cry haha. I then started to check the first 2 pages of google and noticed that a lot of the top ranking sites have a couple of thousand back links (1k-3k) backlinks to be exact, and the keywords for some of them arent "land auction" but clearly its in the right category. Everything that was on the 2nd page had a couple of hundred backlinks, I know backlinks arent everything but if someone can point me in the right direction that would be great.

    Search result numbers are useless, ignore them, your competition is the #1 SERP listing/position.

    Proof the search result numbers are useless:


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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Download the free version of seo spyglass

    start mimicking as much of their links strategy as possible

    create good relevant content.

    get some social media rep going

    Also try to get a domain name (aged if possible) with the keyword in it.

    P.s.

    I just ran the second result on google for "land auction" (the first one was blank) through seo SG and it has 5,974 backlinks. Needless to say you'll be busy.
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    • Profile picture of the author netguy12
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      Download the free version of seo spyglass

      start mimicking as much of their links strategy as possible

      create good relevant content.

      get some social media rep going

      Also try to get a domain name (aged if possible) with the keyword in it.

      P.s.

      I just ran the second result on google for "land auction" (the first one was blank) through seo SG and it has 5,974 backlinks. Needless to say you'll be busy.
      Thomas,
      Thanks for that info, I will start working on a link strategy and relevant content. I will also look into social media, and yeah 5k backlinks sounds like a lot of work haha.

      Is there a maximum on how many backlinks I should be doing a day that wont get me penalized by google? 5? 15?
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  • Profile picture of the author JawadAshraf
    Try to obtained a long tail keyword like for example Land Auction in New York etc it will be much easy to rank and more likely a buyer keyword. Also make some videos for this keyword and put on Youtube to get maximum results. Hope it will help.

    Cheers!

    Jawad
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  • Profile picture of the author C Rebecca
    First thing, the statistics you get from Google keyword research tool is precisely for adword bidding...

    You get just an estimate for organic SEO.
    And backlinks aren’t everything. You have content, social media reputation etc. which gets considered while getting ranked.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

    Hey everyone,
    Alright, clearly my research skills suck horribly. I got the basic idea of SEO down but anything more than that Im really struggling with.

    I wanted to try and rank for the keyword "land auction", when I google it the first thing I see is 244,000,000 results.
    As Yukon pointed out, those numbers mean very little.

    However, I checked out "land auction" and it's definitely a keyword I'd stay well clear of as it would be very tough to rank for and it only gets 1300 exact Global Monthly Searches (GMS).
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    • Profile picture of the author netguy12
      Originally Posted by UMS View Post

      As Yukon pointed out, those numbers mean very little.

      However, I checked out "land auction" and it's definitely a keyword I'd stay well clear of as it would be very tough to rank for and it only gets 1300 exact Global Monthly Searches (GMS).

      Thanks for all the info everyone.

      UMS,
      Where did you get that number from? According to keyword tool its GMS is 165K and local monthly searches is 33k.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
        Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

        Thanks for all the info everyone.

        UMS,
        Where did you get that number from? According to keyword tool its GMS is 165K and local monthly searches is 33k.

        You are looking at broad match numbers. You need to change your search to exact match in the left hand sidebar.
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        • Profile picture of the author netguy12
          Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

          You are looking at broad match numbers. You need to change your search to exact match in the left hand sidebar.

          Oh I see it now, dam man what have I done haha.
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          • Profile picture of the author Redwyn88
            Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

            Oh I see it now, dam man what have I done haha.
            Better to realize it now than after spending months working on a site

            Find a good guide on keyword research and target something with even lighter competition than they tell you to target. Go after something super easy first and figure out what you're doing, then move up in difficulty.

            The AdSense Flippers have a free guide that covers one approach. They target very low competition: Building A Niche Site Empire Guide | AdSense Flippers

            Pat Flynn has a nice video on keyword research you can check out here: Keyword Research and SEO Webinar Replay (6/23/10)
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            • Profile picture of the author netguy12
              Originally Posted by Redwyn88 View Post

              Better to realize it now than after spending months working on a site

              Find a good guide on keyword research and target something with even lighter competition than they tell you to target. Go after something super easy first and figure out what you're doing, then move up in difficulty.

              The AdSense Flippers have a free guide that covers one approach. They target very low competition: Building A Niche Site Empire Guide | AdSense Flippers

              Pat Flynn has a nice video on keyword research you can check out here: Keyword Research and SEO Webinar Replay (6/23/10)

              Thanks for the links, I will check them out right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author career21st
    Use this forum's search on 'keyword research'. You will gain more knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author robertwilston
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    Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

    Hey everyone,
    Alright, clearly my research skills suck horribly. I got the basic idea of SEO down but anything more than that Im really struggling with.

    I wanted to try and rank for the keyword "land auction", when I google it the first thing I see is 244,000,000 results. So of course I shaked my head and wanted to cry haha. I then started to check the first 2 pages of google and noticed that a lot of the top ranking sites have a couple of thousand back links (1k-3k) backlinks to be exact, and the keywords for some of them arent "land auction" but clearly its in the right category. Everything that was on the 2nd page had a couple of hundred backlinks, I know backlinks arent everything but if someone can point me in the right direction that would be great.
    First of all i think which you told searches on your keyword that is wrong. because i just checked out this is only 1300 searches with high competition . So how can you get ranking so eaisly with your keyword. you have to do too much work for your site. It will take time to rank in Google SERP.
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  • Profile picture of the author anirban4u
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    I would recommend you to look for long phrase keyword first... Coz this will not only get ranking easily but will also help you to get some rank for the short tailed keywords.
    You can go to google keyword selection tools for further reference.

    I think everybody have given a fair suggestion
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  • Profile picture of the author amosdavid13
    You must follow effective off page seo methods which are listed below :-

    (1) Social bookmarking.
    (2) Article submission.
    (3) Forum posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart william
    Check the real search of your keyword to know the exact competition. You can get a rough idea through Google adword tool about competition in the global and local searches.
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