by lonfore Banned
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Accroding to SEO book toolbar PR of this website Italian Restaurant Brooklyn | Maria Ristorante is 9 on the other hand according to SEO Quake toolbar PR is 0. My question is how is it possible? Can anyone help me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Never trust a toolbar. Always cross check it in Google by doing a search like this

      info:mariaristorante.com (replace with domain you are searching for). you can also check Site:domain name afterwords. Some times a domain will show up there even if it looks deindexed (or just not indexed - big difference) plus sometimes its not the home page that has the highest PR

      If the result EXACTLY matches the domain then its not being faked. If you have seoquake installed then you will be able to see the PR at the same time you do the search
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      • Profile picture of the author lonfore
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Never trust a toolbar. Always cross check it in Google by doing a search like this

        info:mariaristorante.com (replace with domain you are searching for). you can also check Site:domain name afterwords. Some times a domain will show up there even if it looks deindexed (or just not indexed - big difference) plus sometimes its not the home page that has the highest PR

        If the result EXACTLY matches the domain then its not being faked. If you have seoquake installed then you will be able to see the PR at the same time you do the search
        Mike Im not clear! I searched the domain using info:mariaristorante.com and I found



        Here I dont see any PR info. Can you please illustrate how can I check the PR? I am surely missing something that you pointed!

        Thanks for your help.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by lonfore View Post


          Here I dont see any PR info. Can you please illustrate how can I check the PR? I am surely missing something that you pointed!

          Thanks for your help.
          install SEoquake into your Chrome or Firefox browser. Restart the browser and do the search again. DP40 is right btw. Its a PR 0
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  • Profile picture of the author lonfore
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    I see then SEO quake is the best tool for checking fake PR. Thanks for your help....
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    • Profile picture of the author luxl85
      Originally Posted by lonfore View Post

      I see then SEO quake is the best tool for checking fake PR. Thanks for your help....

      Seo quake also return the fake PR in my IE
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      • Profile picture of the author lonfore
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        Originally Posted by luxl85 View Post

        Seo quake also return the fake PR in my IE

        How is it possible? Mike is very experienced guy. So he cant be wrong!
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        • Profile picture of the author prospectsoftech
          It is PR 0 in seo toolbar you cross check again by removing toolbar and downloaded again.








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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by lonfore View Post

          How is it possible? Mike is very experienced guy. So he cant be wrong!
          I think you guys are still missing the point. Any tool can be fooled including SEOquake. the purpose of doing the search is to check if the domain name matches with the result that comes up with your own eyeballs. SEoquake just gives you an easy way to have the PR there when you do that test. It does not replaced the test. SO if seoquale shows PR 4 and the result from the search does not match its faked.
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  • Profile picture of the author zettax
    I thinks that is fake PR, you can use SEOquake (mozille add ons) for check Fake PR
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  • Profile picture of the author SamDenial
    Yes it is of page rank 0. Sometimes it shows the PR of the previous page because of internet speed.
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  • Profile picture of the author prismkuet
    That's a 0 PR site. Thanks to Mike Anthony for sharing the nice system to find out PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author jewishwedding
    It's PR is zero at Google PR tool. So, there is nothing like fake anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author mohsinqureshi50
      HI
      what about this websit, is this fraud also neodollar
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    • Profile picture of the author mohsinqureshi50
      HI
      what about this website, is this fraud also neodollar . com
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    It is very easy to fake PR. You just do a redirect of a domain to one with a high PR until the next PR update. After the update rolls around, you turn of the redirect and it will look like it has the PR of the site you were redirecting it to until the next PR update comes. Then you quickly sell it to some fool who doesn't know any better.

    That is the easiest way to fake it, but there are others too.

    Mike mentioned one way to check for fake PR. In a lot of cases, you can just use common sense too. A site like CNN.com is a PR 8, so I highly doubt some little silly restaurant site is ever going to achieve a PR 9.

    You can use SEOmoz's toolbar and check the domain authority. If it is pretty low, you probably do not need to bother investigating any further. It's fake.

    Best way to be sure though is to look at the backlinks. If there are very few links and/or no links with high PR pointing at the site, it cannot have a high PR.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Best way to be sure though is to look at the backlinks. If there are very few links and/or no links with high PR pointing at the site, it cannot have a high PR.
      Mike thats 110% right but you know what? People have no business buying domains based on PR only . You always buy on the presence of the links and the kinds of links. Lots of domains are not faked that do not have the PR the toolbar shows. They have just lost the links. If you concentrate on checking the links and the kinds of links you won't get burned by fake PR, redirects or much of anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author crazyJon
    Yes every time go to Google and type "infoOMAIN" and it will show if it is the real domain or not!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheila Ross
    It is PR 0 for sure. Because if a site have got an alexa rank of 4,123,155 cannot be PR 9. I use searchstatus add on in firefox and I think in most of the times it shows me the right information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ldimilo
    Just out of curiousity....why is anyone focusing in on PR now anyway?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Ldimilo View Post

      Just out of curiousity....why is anyone focusing in on PR now anyway?


      Despite what you may have heard PR is STILL a good quick indicator of links coming into a site. For example when you are buying an expiring domain you are essentially buying the links coming into that site. You still will want to check the links but you don't even have to bother if the PR is N/A zero or even one. You know right off the back the page has no good links going to it.
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      • Profile picture of the author lucasbowen
        Hi,
        Seen this late (browsing :-)).
        If you wanna avoid any refresh issues with SEOQuake etc. just go to

        www(dot)prchecker(dot)info/check_page_rank(dot)php

        Works like a charm.

        .... also here the little restaurant is a 0/10

        Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    Actually Toolbars are not updated regularly that's the reason they show absurd results.
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