Why Aren't My Sites Ranking - No Blackhat Techniques

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I don't understand why my sites aren't ranking. I haven't done anything dodgy, like blast backlinks. Instead, I've gone for the whitehat approach, where I build backlinks manually every day.

I type the keyword in Google, and it is nowhere to be found. Ok, fair enough. You might say that competition is too high. So then I put the title of the post in quotation marks, and it still doesn't come up. All I see are the article directories and social bookmarking sites where I have submitted the post to.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    I just posted this same list of questions in another thread a little farther down the page, but I'll ask you the same things:
    1. What's your kw density?
    2. How did you find your keywords?
    3. Does your site have proper internal SEO?
    4. What kind of backlinks are you using?
    5. Do you have any EDU/GOV blogs?
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      I just posted this same list of questions in another thread a little farther down the page, but I'll ask you the same things:
      1. What's your kw density?
      2. How did you find your keywords?
      3. Does your site have proper internal SEO?
      4. What kind of backlinks are you using?
      5. Do you have any EDU/GOV blogs?
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      1. Not too sure, but I only have the KW in 1st sentence, 2-3 times throughout the body and once in the last paragraph.

      2. GKT, and by cheking the competition on page 1 of Google.

      3. Yes. Correct H1,2,3 tags, interlinking etc.

      4. Web 2.0, social bookmarking, article submission, blog commenting.

      5. No.

      Websites are about 2 months old.
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      • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
        Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post


        4. Web 2.0, social bookmarking, article submission, blog commenting.
        Sorry to say this, but this isn't really white hat SEO.

        White hat doesn't mean manual. You can (somewhat automate) white hat and do black hat manually.

        What matters to me isn't what hat you wear but what works.

        And no matter what hat you consider web 2.0s, social bookmarking etc. the fact remains that it's not the most effective link building on the planet.

        You may want to rethink your approach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    You don't say how old the site is, it may have a bearing on whether your site gets ranked for overused keywords or not.

    As for backlinking, if done naturally, it can't harm any, but don't give great credence that just because you spread a few links about you will automatically get ranked anywhere for your keywords or posts, or articles. It's all up to Google, there are billions of webpages out there.
    I would concentrate on media buys and do ppc and get traffic that way, don't just rely on Google, they make take years to rank your site to get enough traffic. There is no shortage of paid traffic!
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  • Profile picture of the author GSX
    Also try some ranking software to see if you're at least in the back 20 pages. I prefer SERPFox but RankTracker is decent as well. This would at least give you an easy way to track or help you scope your site if you're missing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GSX
    Also what kind of competition scouting did you do on these keywords and are the domains EMD's? (Exact Match Domains)
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  • Profile picture of the author Leo Wadsworth
    What kind of keywords are you targeting? Tiny niche keywords can rank quickly - major keywords can require thousands of backlinks and other factors.

    Are your sites getting indexed? What do Google's webmaster tools tell you? Do you have a sitemap.xml file on all your sites, and has it been submitted to Google?

    Pardon me asking - but sometimes simple things slip through - if you are using WordPress, are your privacy settings allowing Google to index your site?
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  • Profile picture of the author bermuda
    I guess the catch is about your website age online because in even very light niches these days, since there is a lot of domains and newly set up websites competing with each other, there is the need to be and remain patient for some time like at least several months. If six months passes and you still are not able to find your website among the first 1000 websites listed on Google, that's the time to think about some other solutions so at present you should worry that much, you know.

    Just read some threads and you will notice that some people even after one year since launching of their websites are still complaining from poor results achieved online. There is a mysterious phenomenon called the Sandbox which prevents new websites, possibly yours too is in the game now, from even appearing among 1000 sites for some time, the hotter keywords and markets targeted, the longer waiting times. By the way, do not forget to add some good content pages to your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author GSX
    Even if your sites are about 2 months old, you should at least be seeing them as indexed in Google, even if they're not ranking. Are you not seeing when you put the URL in quotes into Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author untarathea
    -Is your keyword very high competition?
    -I think backlink need time to indexed by googlebot
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    I think I may have found the problem. I used firebug and found that near the bottom of the page there are 6 hidden links on most of the sites, which means I've been hacked. I thought that Google was meant to send you a message when something like this happens. Anyway, if I manage to get rid of them, will Google start ranking the pages?

    Is there anyone who would be willing to help me out, here? I could send you a PM with a couple of my sites...
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    I've manged to find out that the links are in my robots.txt file, but when I access this file in File Manager, I can't see the links anyway. So confused. I hope Bluehost can help me out.
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  • Profile picture of the author zackick
    to build backlink manually can take forever to ever competing with other site that have big budget.

    just go hire people to do backlink
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  • Profile picture of the author linkbuildr
    building your own backlinks != natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    How old is this site?
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  • Profile picture of the author GSX
    Try using a piece of ranking tracking software or web app to see if the site is showing up, otherwise you could be facing some really tough competition or you could have really pool links.
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    There might be 2 reasons why you are not ranking well:

    1. You are targeting the wrong keyword (overly competitive). Trying to rank for terms like "car insurance" will take a tremendous amount of effort and a long time.

    2. You are only backlinking to your homepage or a certain page and hence making your link profile looks unnatural. Google is paying a very close attention to your link profile since the Penguin and Panda update. It does not matter whether you build your backlink manually or not. You must keep your link profile natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Thanks for the tips. I get what all you guys are saying, but I don't understand why when I type in the title of one of my posts in quotes, the only links I see are to sites that have syndicated my articles, social bookmarking sites and article directories. My website is nowhere to be found.

    I did my KW research, and while some of the terms are not incredibly easy to rank for, they should still be showing up in Google, particularly the long tail keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      Thanks for the tips. I get what all you guys are saying, but I don't understand why when I type in the title of one of my posts in quotes, the only links I see are to sites that have syndicated my articles, social bookmarking sites and article directories. My website is nowhere to be found.
      Because all of those sites have far more authority than your site. The article on your site may still have not been crawled. Did you check to see if the URL is indexed or not?
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Yeah, they're all indexed. I don't know if you saw what I posted earlier about my site being hacked, but this seems to be the most logical conclusion - to me, anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author supertintin1
    have you bought the domain name ? have you used to SEO on that URL before ?

    Check if the website is indexed and if searching from title, you can not find your website then it is hit be penguin update.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
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  • Profile picture of the author BocaKenK
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    How old is your site? Are you using aged domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    The websites are a couple of months old, so it is unlikely that I have been hit by the penguin update, especially as I have only focused on whitehat techniques. I've removed the hidden links that the hacker put on my sites, so I will send a reconsideration request to google, which I hope should change things.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    It is possible someone other to having blasted your website and do a "black hat method" to you. Just keep adding new content and more backlinks (BUT backlinks from high quality website, for example web2.0 will work perfect!)
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  • Profile picture of the author NicheLinks
    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    I don't understand why my sites aren't ranking. I haven't done anything dodgy, like blast backlinks. Instead, I've gone for the whitehat approach, where I build backlinks manually every day.

    I type the keyword in Google, and it is nowhere to be found. Ok, fair enough. You might say that competition is too high. So then I put the title of the post in quotation marks, and it still doesn't come up. All I see are the article directories and social bookmarking sites where I have submitted the post to.
    Apart from paying attention towards onsite SEO, you must also take care monitor the performance of your website. If, your website remains down for the maximum time, it will be hard for you to optimism the site across various search engines. also, ask your SEO professionals to do search engine submissions as primarily.
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  • Profile picture of the author engagedotscrm
    First start up with proper keyword research and analysis, always maintain unique content then get backlinks from quality sites. No doubt your keyword ranking would rise gradually.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaaregarnes
    2 mnths is nothing. But did you submit the articles to hubs before you published it on your own site? Then Google might consider it as unoriginal and push it back.

    Also chec if the site validate in W3C.

    Would also be helpful with alink to the site ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Naimath
    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    I don't understand why my sites aren't ranking. I haven't done anything dodgy, like blast backlinks. Instead, I've gone for the whitehat approach, where I build backlinks manually every day.

    I type the keyword in Google, and it is nowhere to be found. Ok, fair enough. You might say that competition is too high. So then I put the title of the post in quotation marks, and it still doesn't come up. All I see are the article directories and social bookmarking sites where I have submitted the post to.
    Google doesn't want you to go out there and build links. It wants you to create useful content so that the links come to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielph
    There are many factors, depends of the domain age, how many backlinks, which kind of backlinks. And for sure if is a strong competition then needs some time for sure.
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