Traffic Increased 3x After PR Update

14 years ago

Interesting. With Google, no one knows. Best just to keep checking your rankings periodically and just keep doing what you are doing. Others might be experiencing the same and may post in here shortly.

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himanuzo

14 years ago

You can scale up your method in increasing traffic and monetizing it.

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darrenlc 14 years ago

Hi, it's great news about your site and I hope it stays there. However I have found in the past that my sites get a serp boost usually about 3 days before any pr update and then they settle down back to where they were before if there has been any sort of penalty on them. I really hope this isn't the case this time for both of us. My site went from 80 visitors a day to 600 as long tail keywords have gone manic. Although this is great I'm not gonna get too excited just yet. Hope your site stays up there.
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geek12

14 years ago

You is a lucky man.

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xbluelinks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO

Interesting. With Google, no one knows. Best just to keep checking your rankings periodically and just keep doing what you are doing. Others might be experiencing the same and may post in here shortly.

The bad news is that I have created 1 more site when the penalty struck for the same keyword. Hence, I now have 2 sites targeting the same keywords. The 1st site (previously penalized one) is ranked top 3. While the 2nd site is ranked 20.

Originally Posted by himanuzo

You can scale up your method in increasing traffic and monetizing it.

I intend to do it via local commerce. I don't want to depend on adsense. After much thought, I think I will do it via a special offers section, similar to how WSO works, except that I will be doing physical products from retailers instead.

Originally Posted by darrenlc

Hi, it's great news about your site and I hope it stays there. However I have found in the past that my sites get a serp boost usually about 3 days before any pr update and then they settle down back to where they were before if there has been any sort of penalty on them. I really hope this isn't the case this time for both of us. My site went from 80 visitors a day to 600 as long tail keywords have gone manic. Although this is great I'm not gonna get too excited just yet. Hope your site stays up there.

I hope so too. Everything right now is +10 +20 +30 +40. My rank tracker is lighting up green. Loving it so far. Hope it stays that way.

However, it seems that only this penalized site is being affected (positively). My other sites are stable. So I am slightly more optimistic that it will stick.

Originally Posted by geek12

You is a lucky man.

It's hard work though. Though, sometimes with SEO, simply doing hardwork (which I did for several weeks/months) is not enough. Didn't show much effect (in SERP) previously. Thought all my hard work was for nothing. Was about to give up. Happy to see that it counts for something.

Oh. Also, after this PR update, my penalized site increase from PR0 to PR3. Not sure if it has anything to do with my recovery.

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RedClickSeo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by xbluelinks

The bad news is that I have created 1 more site when the penalty struck for the same keyword. Hence, I now have 2 sites targeting the same keywords. The 1st site (previously penalized one) is ranked top 3. While the 2nd site is ranked 20.

Use a 301 redirect from the second site to the first. The link juice should carry over.

Also, how long was your site penalized for? I've seen sites get hit by a 3 month penalty. They lose everything for 3 months, and to the day everything returns. (ranking, traffic, etc.)

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zecke 14 years ago

I`ve seen couple times that during Google PR Update they take away some penalties. Lucky day for You
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xbluelinks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RedClickSeo

Use a 301 redirect from the second site to the first. The link juice should carry over.

Also, how long was your site penalized for? I've seen sites get hit by a 3 month penalty. They lose everything for 3 months, and to the day everything returns. (ranking, traffic, etc.)

It has been almost 45 days.

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Mike Anthony

14 years ago

You guys are acting as if the Google toolbar update yesterday was an update to the Real pagerank of a site. It wasn't and NEVER is. Pagerank updates happen every day internally to Google.

IF you finally saw a PR update then you got more links over the last three months and thats the reason for your site going up not because the public toolbar updated yesterday.

think about it of all the people building links to their site organically or manually weren't a few going to see increases yesterday whether there was a PR toolbar update or not? Of course. As they say correlation does not mean causation.

Some of you are just so way off its unbelievable even proposing that PR updates "take away" penalties

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MikeFriedman

14 years ago

Like Mike said, PR is updated every single day. Google just shares the information with us once every several months, and even that is lagging behind by a few months.

Your ranking increase on the same day as a PR update is just a happy coincidence.

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xbluelinks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Like Mike said, PR is updated every single day. Google just shares the information with us once every several months, and even that is lagging behind by a few months.

Your ranking increase on the same day as a PR update is just a happy coincidence.

Yes. I understand that the PR is updated every single day and yesterday was just the day (1 of a few per year) that the PR information was shared with the public. And that it shouldn't lift penalties.

I suppose the ranking increase may be attributable to some other update/ tweaks that the engineers at Google must have done concurrently as we well (or my penalty expired). I believe this because I have not been doing back-linking or any work to my 1st site (the penalized one) ever since I created my 2nd site.

Happy coincidence. Now, back to work.

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darrenlc

14 years ago

I'm not saying that penalties get lifted with pr updates - far from it. But I wonder sometimes if the data gets mixed up a bit with the update and once it settles down things go back to as before. This does only happen with one of my sites but it has happened now for the last 3 pr updates.

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Mike Anthony

14 years ago

Originally Posted by darrenlc

I'm not saying that penalties get lifted with pr updates - far from it. But I wonder sometimes if the data gets mixed up a bit with the update and once it settles down things go back to as before. This does only happen with one of my sites but it has happened now for the last 3 pr updates.

Darren its a well known fact that Pr is updated constantly on a daily basis. Its only the toolbar that is updated once every three months. Google had all the same data the day before the toolbar update they just didn't let you know in the toolbar. So for rankings toolbar updates have nothing to do with rises or falls

Think of it this way. A president of the country gives a State of the Economy address every three months and gives it a rating. Does he know in between the updates that the economy sucks? Yes. The announcement that it sucks doesn't change the economy. Google tool bar updates are just announcements of things that internally Google has known for weeks or months. listen closely to this video -

Why aren't the Google Toolbar PageRank values...

My bet is that you notice things more when there is an update because everyone goes and runs to see if there is a ranking change whenever there is a toolbar update

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Aarav 14 years ago

You must get a triple bonus because i don't think that PR is not enough to lifting penalty, 3x traffic and get a high ranking on Google. You are such a lucky man to get all the things in just a day.
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darrenlc

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Darren its a well known fact that Pr is updated constantly on a daily basis. Its only the toolbar that is updated once every three months. Google had all the same data the day before the toolbar update they just didn't let you know in the toolbar. So for rankings toolbar updates have nothing to do with rises or falls

Thanks Mike for telling me this and backing it up. That's not what I was trying to say and I could never argue with someone who has so many posts and obvously knows what he's talking about. I was just saying what has happened with one of my sites over the last 3 PR updates. Let's just put it down to a coincidence.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

My bet is that you notice things more when there is an update because everyone goes and runs to see if there is a ranking change whenever there is a toolbar update

Well no because this happens about 3 days before the PR update and usually lasts about 7 days before it disapears. Obviously when the site does disapear I will be more than happy to prove my point....... Erm!!!

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By the way who's the dude in the video is he a friend of Larry's?

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xbluelinks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by darrenlc

By the way who's the dude in the video is he a friend of Larry's?

Matt Cutts. Everyone knows him. He is everyone's best friend.
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Dentist

14 years ago

It has nothing to do with PR update. It has been a coincidence that your penalty removal or ranking increase has been on the same date with PR update. The PR update only reveals what it has already been there once in three months. And what we see from 0 to 10 PR is not as it is being seen on Google. They know the actual PR of a page every second, but they announce it on a rough 0 to 10 number every 3 months. Even if my PR and your PR are the same, it doesn't mean we exactly have the same PR. Rather than that, it is not an event that something extra is going on. Nothing extra, just presenting the numbers to the public!

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boxoun

14 years ago

I understand pr updates everyday and one has nothing to do with other but I saw slight traffic drop. Not average fluctuation.

Algo changes everyday also. Not sure if there was a "major" refresh. Seems more like a small tweak. I'm just guessing here but I did have traffic change also.

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arnie19

14 years ago

Great.. Hope my site also gets +300 increased traffic.

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