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14 years ago

A site can be indexed within hours but ranking is a totally different thing. There are a number of factors that affects site ranking.

content (unique, people want to read, keyword density, tags, etc)
high pr related backlinks
returning visitors
low bounce rate

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So don't expect to sit on top of google after creating a site.
Read this and do the hard work:
http://google.about.com/od/searcheng...mproverank.htm

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Jeepfreak81

14 years ago

if you type in site:yoursitename how many of your pages come up?

Are you building backlinks for your site? I have had my site up for almost a month with a couple of backlinks from guest posting, and a backlink from an article directory. Not to mention some internal linking and various social media accounts. This isn't enough to get me ranked anywhere in the top 10 or 20 pages for any of my keywords. Patience grasshopper!

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linkdestiny

14 years ago

All of the things you said could have been a problem....especially since the Penguin update.

If you did not know the penguin update was solely focused on unique content and finding site with one single anchor text. It is a great idea when link building to use anchors like "click here" or "find out more" nowadays. Also unique content is a MUST if you are going to put content on your website make sure you hire someone to do it or do it yourself. Also another key thing when linkbuilding is to use your inner pages and not just your home page to link to.

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- brittneyj 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by payment proof
  
  Brittney,
  
  Since submitting your site, what have you done SEO wise?
  
  I use the godaddy website tonight program. I have one to two keywords per page. I use the keywords in my tages and title pages. A few of my keywords have low density buy I can't figure out how to put more in.
  
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Mike Hill

14 years ago

You currently have 4 pages indexed in Google. You need a lot more content. You can't possibly think having a site with such little content to get anywhere near page 10 let alone page 1.

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

You currently have 4 pages indexed in Google. You need a lot more content. You can't possibly think having a site with such little content to get anywhere near page 10 let alone page 1.

How many pages should a good website have?

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linkdestiny 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

How many pages should a good website have?

If you want to be page 1 on Google? I would say as much as possible...content is VITAL!
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- brittneyj 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by linkdestiny
  
  If you want to be page 1 on Google? I would say as much as possible...content is VITAL!
  
  Should I add more pages or add more content to the pages I already have?
  
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ArielT

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

How many pages should a good website have?

I don't think there is a rule for numbers of pages, I think It's vary according the niche, so you shoud take a look to your competitors to see how many pages they have which will give you an idea. And of course create good content on those pages

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ArielT

I don't think there is a rule for numbers of pages, I think It's vary according the niche, so you shoud take a look to your competitors to see how many pages they have which will give you an idea. And of course create good content on those pages

That's a good idea. I will check out my competitors

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14 years ago

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Caleb Spilchen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BankVelvet

That's funny. You can get to page 1 with a few good paragraphs.

Unless you can afford to invest in a rank booster you should probably put out some nice 2.0 properties.

A website with one word on it, ranked on page #1 for a high powered keyword in THIS industry, the same day that everyone got Panda slapped...

It was a blogspot blog... It was the only blog in the niche that wasn't over optimized I guess ! lol

Caleb

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Mike Hill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BankVelvet

That's funny. You can get to page 1 with a few good paragraphs.

Unless you can afford to invest in a rank booster you should probably put out some nice 2.0 properties.

Well lets see how long that lasts... You need to be providing value on a consistent basis. No if's and's or but's about it... It needs to be a keyword phrase that actually gets traffic of which they will spend money on what they are searching.

No sense at all saying "I can get page 1 with a few paragraphs" unless those paragraphs produce results as in money in the bank. Of which I am seriously inclined to think your full of sh!t...

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Caleb Spilchen

14 years ago

"I am not ranked yet"...

About 172,000,000 results (0.25 seconds) - This is the result from a query I did a second ago for a keyword that I rank on page one for (Country Targeting works.)... I'm giving you that number as an example, because out of those millions of result, in the niche I'm in a FEW Thousand of those are trying to rank for the very same keyword as me...

There is no set amount of time to be ranked, simply because you MAY NEVER be ranked, depending on the keyword you are trying to rank for. Example, if your keyword was boboboboboboboboboboboqowuqoew - a string of random characters, you'd be #1 because you have no competition.

but if your shooting to be ranked for a keyword, like "weight loss", there is little-to-no-chance of ranking, because 10k people are putting money down to land on top of that keyword. You don't just rank because you submit to Google, you have to fight for the spot... unless of course your Wikipedia

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Bill Hugall

14 years ago

I have honestly found that video and massive social exposure works. I am not a pro at SEO by any means, but I have recently started to give it a go and I am finding that I am ranking high with almost none of the old stuff.

I submit to social networks. A lot of them. I have a well tagged video on the topic.(don't need to go super nuts) A quick 300 word post with the keyword maybe 3 or 4 times. I also you my autoresponder to hit my twitter and facebook accounts.The biggest thing for me has been the fact that I use nothing but brand new written myself content to go with the video..... This maybe be awful advice but as I mentioned it has worked for me. I think that real fresh content is huge. I hope that helps

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bilkat19

I have honestly found that video and massive social exposure works. I am not a pro at SEO by any means, but I have recently started to give it a go and I am finding that I am ranking high with almost none of the old stuff.

I submit to social networks. A lot of them. I have a well tagged video on the topic.(don't need to go super nuts) A quick 300 word post with the keyword maybe 3 or 4 times. I also you my autoresponder to hit my twitter and facebook accounts.The biggest thing for me has been the fact that I use nothing but brand new written myself content to go with the video..... This maybe be awful advice but as I mentioned it has worked for me. I think that real fresh content is huge. I hope that helps

Thank you. Someone from fivver is making me an animoto video for youtube.

I have submitted to social networks but the only one I am getting backlinks from is scoop.com

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Vorsiedious

14 years ago

To rank you need a good site with lots of traffic and backlinks. Although it's hard to get either if you don't rank

Weird.

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lollobrigida

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I have submitted my website to google 5 weeks ago. I am indexed but not ranked. How long does it take?? I noticed some duplicate content from other sites by researching on copyscape.com. I fixed those. Could this have been the problem.

Also, I didn't realize that I needed to vary my anchor texts. I was able to go back to some areas and spin the text. Could this also have been a problem?

You can expect to get indexed... but you can not expect to be ranked.

Stick your keywords in the google search slot and find out what you get.
Try to check out the top 10 results for each keyword and find out what they have and what they do that you don't. Find out what and who you compete against. Do some research on the age of the domains and the backlinks those sites have... etc.

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jamesgan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I have submitted my website to google 5 weeks ago. I am indexed but not ranked. How long does it take?? I noticed some duplicate content from other sites by researching on copyscape.com. I fixed those. Could this have been the problem.

Also, I didn't realize that I needed to vary my anchor texts. I was able to go back to some areas and spin the text. Could this also have been a problem?

Be patient bro. SEO is a lengthy process.
Keep on producing quality new contents is key for your SEO.

I am not sure about your website, do some research on your audience preference website and try to go there and publish your content (if possible).

Build relationships with your customer and serve them well. they will come back for more...

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vCr8

14 years ago

After getting indexed, focus on on-site and offsite SEO... This is a long process if you are trying to rank a keyword with a very high competition. Be patient and get good and fresh content, build your links.

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Megas 14 years ago

Content is the number one thing you'll need, put new quality content up everyday if possible, twice a week at the very least.
Then backlinks... get as many as possible and add them over time, google will penalize you for getting too many too fast, you'll need to get 5-10 backlinks a week on average.
This two principles will help you rank.
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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by javajunkie

After getting indexed, focus on on-site and offsite SEO... This is a long process if you are trying to rank a keyword with a very high competition. Be patient and get good and fresh content, build your links.

How patient should I be with a low competition keyword? 3 months, 6 months, a year?

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Linkology 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

How patient should I be with a low competition keyword? 3 months, 6 months, a year?

How long is a piece of string?

All kidding aside though, you should definitely be ranked within a month or so for a Low Competition Keyword if you have your SEO in order.
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lollobrigida

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

How patient should I be with a low competition keyword? 3 months, 6 months, a year?

Are we talking about the website in your signature?

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lollobrigida

Are we talking about the website in your signature?

yes that is the one

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zannix 14 years ago

You need to get a good read at the post-penguin SEO tactics.
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lollobrigida

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

yes that is the one

How did you judge this to be low competition?
What did you look at and take into account?

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lollobrigida

How did you judge this to be low competition?
What did you look at and take into account?

I determined this from google keyword tool. It reported my keywords to be low competition.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lollobrigida

How did you judge this to be low competition?
What did you look at and take into account?

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I determined this from google keyword tool. It reported my keywords to be low competition.

So your saying your running PPC campaigns, right?

That competition in the GKT has nothing to do with SEO.

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brittneyj

14 years ago

No, I am not running PPC campains. I used this tool to decide which keywords to use when I started my site.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

No, I am not running PPC campains. I used this tool to decide which keywords to use when I started my site.

The Google Keyword Tool has nothing to do with SEO competition.

The competition column in the keyword tool is used for PPC competition, which has nothing to do with organic SERPs.

Your using the keyword tool wrong.

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brittneyj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

The Google Keyword Tool has nothing to do with SEO competition.

The competition column in the keyword tool is used for PPC competition, which has nothing to do with organic SERPs.

Your using the keyword tool wrong.

Which tool should I use?

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lollobrigida 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I determined this from google keyword tool. It reported my keywords to be low competition.

What the guys said is right...
the keyword tool is used to find out about PPC competition (paid ranking in Google) NOT SEO competition (organic ranking in Google).

To find out what you are up against it helps to look at the top 10 organic rankings for each keyword you target. I did that for your main keyword and wouldn't consider it low competition. You have a bunch of heavy weight sites (old and established domains, hundreds of indexed pages, high Google PR, hundreds/thousands of backlinks... often not all of these factors but many) that will be hard if not impossible to beat with a thin content affiliate page and as a beginner in SEO.

Finding out what you are up against is essential.
To get an idea about the "factors" I'm talking about above... get yourself a toolbar like the one from "SEO quake". It shows you the PR, number of indexed pages, age of the domain, Alexa ranking...etc.

Your page like it is now will have close to no chance to get anywhere.
Do some research... find easier keywords and build your site around them. Do it with original content. Read a lot about SEO. A good start is the beginners guide at seomoz.
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TeamTCW

14 years ago

Your keywords would start ranking slowly if you work continuously on your site so you need to keep providing posts to your blog for better ranking.

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easternodyssey

14 years ago

You will not be ranked until the 30th of September when the new Google page ranks are due to be released, or at least thats when i think the page rank date is.

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Caleb Spilchen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by easternodyssey

You will not be ranked until the 30th of September when the new Google page ranks are due to be released, or at least thats when i think the page rank date is.

Please show me some evidentiary data that concludes that. Google pageranks don't mean anything to be honest with where you rank...

I rank for a very nice keyword, and my site had a PR0 or 1 when it was ranked... (All of my competition has pr8+).

Please provide evidence of your point, otherwise it joins the amounts of false posts that lead people astray on their IM journey throughout this lovely forum.

To your Success,

Caleb

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Adie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by easternodyssey

You will not be ranked until the 30th of September when the new Google page ranks are due to be released, or at least thats when i think the page rank date is.

You totally misunderstood the OP. He is not talking anything about pagerank (PR). He is talking about ranking his site on google search result.

..and nobody really knows when Google update the PR.. It could be 2, 3, 4, or more months. Don't give false information please..

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Green Moon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by easternodyssey

You will not be ranked until the 30th of September when the new Google page ranks are due to be released, or at least thats when i think the page rank date is.

Reviewing websites, analyzing content and delivering search results is a continuing process that is separate and distinct from the page rank that Google releases. I have had new sites appear in the search results within days, way before the periodic page rank adjustments.

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igoogle

14 years ago

site are indexed by google within few hours
but to rank in google your site need quality contents and SEO works

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Nelapsi

14 years ago

I personally would not look at it as having patience because it is more a process, each week you should be able to gauge your success based on progress.

I would also be careful of Fiverr, there are far more bad gigs then good gigs and picking the wrong one will have you going backwards in a hurry. It has taken me 6 months to learn and now finally to the point of wrestling the #1 spot from the competition. Best advice I can give you is do a little work everyday, not a lot of work all at once.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I have submitted my website to google 5 weeks ago. I am indexed but not ranked. How long does it take?? I noticed some duplicate content from other sites by researching on copyscape.com. I fixed those. Could this have been the problem.

Also, I didn't realize that I needed to vary my anchor texts. I was able to go back to some areas and spin the text. Could this also have been a problem?

If your pasting copied content on your pages from external sites, checking anything with CopyScape is useless for SEO. The Google Algo. doesn't care about CopyScape.

Search Google SERPs for duplicate pages/content, anything else is a waste of time.

Build relevant pages with relevant anchor-text links pointing at your target page/keyword you want ranked in the SERPs.

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Mantasmo

14 years ago

What on earth is going on in this thread. I tried to post something helpful, but couldn't figure out where to start!

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cal1990

14 years ago

can take month to be ranked

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gearmonkey

14 years ago

Brittney, I feel your pain. Try and build some backlinks and work on building your brand.

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MatthewWoodward

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittneyj

I have submitted my website to google 5 weeks ago. I am indexed but not ranked. How long does it take?? I noticed some duplicate content from other sites by researching on copyscape.com. I fixed those. Could this have been the problem.

Also, I didn't realize that I needed to vary my anchor texts. I was able to go back to some areas and spin the text. Could this also have been a problem?

You need to provide an awful lot more detail than that for anyone to provide you an answer that isn't complete and utter guesswork based on other peoples guesswork they have read in other threads.

Give us the full details without revealing your url/keywords

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ArielT

14 years ago

Brittney, I think you might have a "home page" named page and there talk a bit what is your site about and link your pages from there while you are touching that information and telling people where to read more (in what of your pages), and also create a site mapa, google likes sites well organized

Other thing, I'd try a time removing the above affiliate banner placing it on other place, or adding it nofollow

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ChrisBR17

14 years ago

Google can index within hours/days - aslong as you are SEO friendly...

Correct keywords, little spam, content rich, proper use of meta data, and no copyright.

Google bots will find your site.

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sbsts

14 years ago

I didn't know about Sept. 30th! Good to know!! Thank you

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Vivers

14 years ago

That may have been the problem however since you corrected it it should fix itself. Just build some quality backlinks and see how she moves?

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ArielT

14 years ago

Brittney if you want to check your competition just place the keywords you want rank for, and the 10 of first page are your competitors, but I think you could beat them since your are beeing too specific, so don't worry, but surely you should be very patient, I would like you take a look to this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...d-penguin.html

The key I think is you don't despair, and if you have copied your content from other web, make some changes to turn it into something original, what is called spinned content

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