Which is the best? SEO or PPC?

14 years ago

Keep in mind I am new at this..but it is my view/opinion

PPC: Paid traffic, while you do have more control over how much you are getting and it can be more focused on your actual topic.. you do pay for it.

SEO: Free, some what interested in your niche at the very least. Takes work and time to build though and you are at the whim of Google updates if you choose to use black hat methods.

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dhanimyfbfans 14 years ago

I think SEO is better because it is not instant compared to PPC where you have to pay for it and the traffic that search engines can instantly suspected
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- mrsvirtualassistant 14 years ago
  
  Both methods work well. Choosing one depends on your goals and your budget. SEO is more time consuming, but generates long term results. PPC can bring you highly targeted traffic in a short period of time, but it stops working when the campaign ends. The best is to use both strategies.
  
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Aarav 14 years ago

Of-course, SEO without any doubt.
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14 years ago

Depends on what your goals and targets are.

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14 years ago

SEO is a natural way to get traffic and PPC is the paid mode. Using PPC you will have more control over to get the right visitors on the targeted pages and this will costs you money. Also PPC is a quick way to get traffic while SEO may take times depends upon how you implement the rules.

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dburk

14 years ago

Hi Josh,

Why waste time arguing?

They are both excellent methods of promoting your website, they both work well when properly executed. You do not need to choose one, or the other, best practice is to use both simultaneously. In fact, stats show that you get a great deal of synergy by employing both simultaneously.

If a keyword is worth ranking by SEO then it is likely worth advertising as well. One of the key advantages that PPC has over nearly all other forms of promotion, including SEO, is that you gather useful data very quickly. That data can then be used to inform your strategy for other promotional techniques, including SEO campaigns. Anyone trying to run an SEO campaign without the benefit of PPC campaign data is disadvantaged by that lack of data.

@Aarav,

I love having competitors that think like you.

@Nelapsi,

I often hear people refer to SEO as "free". Maybe to you it is free, but to me time is money.

I can always get more money, but time is a very limited resource. No matter what I try, I can never get more than 24 hours out of a day, so I always have to employ others to get more time onto a project. I do not have a limitless source of free labor. If you can please share where you, and others, that refer to SEO as "free", find all of that free labor I would appreciate it.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi Josh,

Why waste time arguing?

They are both excellent methods of promoting your website, they both work well when properly executed. You do not need to choose one, or the other, best practice is to use both simultaneously. In fact, stats show that you get a great deal of synergy by employing both simultaneously.

If a keyword is worth ranking by SEO then it is likely worth advertising as well. One of the key advantages that PPC has over nearly all other forms of promotion, including SEO, is that you gather useful data very quickly. That data can then be used to inform your strategy for other promotional techniques, including SEO campaigns. Anyone trying to run an SEO campaign without the benefit of PPC campaign data is disadvantaged by that lack of data.

Ya. I accept both are excellent methods, but my argument goes on which is better and where to make use of it completely. Anyway, I got something new from you that doing both will result fast and good.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Ya. I accept both are excellent methods, but my argument goes on which is better and where to make use of it completely. Anyway, I got something new from you that doing both will result fast and good.

Hi Josh,

Perhaps you missed my point. Let me try to clarify for you the point I failed to make on my last post.

The only "best" option is to use them both simultaneously. In my experience, anyone that tries to get away with using only one, or the other, will get eaten alive in highly competitive markets.

Now, you could try to sort out which of those two are second best, and the truth of that will be different under different circumstances. In some cases, and organic SEO marketer will out perform a PPC marketer, in other cases, the PPC marketer outperforms the SEO marketer. So who can say which is best?

Experience, skill, knowledge, strategy and perseverance all play a role in any successful marketing campaign. A highly competent PPC marketer will always beat a mediocre SEO marketer, just as a top notch SEO marketer is likely to beat an incompetent PPC marketer. And both of those are always crushed by competitors that master both disciplines.

If you choose one or the other your result will always be limited success or frequent failure, in highly competitive markets. How could you truly rate either one as "best"? And again, there are so many variables that you could never say which will be best without knowing the circumstances of each particular situation.

And just in case that isn't clear enough for you, let me make an analogy:

Asking a marketer which is better, SEO or PPC, is like asking a carpenter which is better, a hammer or a saw. :confused: Duh, you are going to look like an idiot if you try to say either one is best.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

And just in case that isn't clear enough for you, let me make an analogy:

Asking a marketer which is better, SEO or PPC, is like asking a carpenter which is better, a hammer or a saw. :confused: Duh, you are going to look like an idiot if you try to say either one is best.

Hmmm. Now I'm clear I think.. Thanks for your analogy. I'm not an Idiot and don't want to be. Actually, I know both PPC and SEO benefit us if we use them in right time. I didn't come to say one is best and another is not much, i just wanted to know others' point of view.

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phpseomaster

14 years ago

Both of them are very good, the best thing is to have both . You'll get much much better results and sales using both of them

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Kreator517 14 years ago

Originally Posted by phpseomaster

Both of them are very good, the best thing is to have both . You'll get much much better results and sales using both of them

I agree. Its never wise to put all your eggs in one basket. Both sides have thier strengths and weaknesses:

PPC:
Pros: high level of control, with a little research you can fine-tune your bids to save $$$
Cons: Increasing % of bot clicks, newbs can configure it wrong and blow through $1000+ in a day

SEO:
pros: sites ranking high organically have that much more credibility in the eyes of visitors, is cheaper over the long term
cons: takes time, vulnerable to the whims of google
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Certitude

14 years ago

PPC is great for quickly testing a new market to see if it can generate a profit. SEO is a long term strategy but can deliver "free" traffic alongside PPC.

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SirStanley

14 years ago

I am going to have a go at PPC when I get time. I have tried to register with a few PPC sites but like everything on the internet, I find the jargon too much. I can never get past the registering bit - the questions are too complicated

I think if you are doing IM seriously and want quick feedback and possible returns then PPC is the way to go. As said before: no harm in having a liitle go at both of them.

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Michael Nguyen

14 years ago

You're comparing night and day, apples vs oranges, BJJ vs Muay Thai.
You already know the pros and cons of each, use both at the same time if you have the budget

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Greedy

14 years ago

They two different ways to great traffic.

So many difference you can't compare them.

My best advice is to learn both. Then decide what works best on a case to case basis with your sites.

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adrianp318 14 years ago

I agree Big Norm. I started using long tail keywords and got my cost down to a minimum. My mailing list grew much quicker and I was able to see what keywords were getting the best response and then incorporating them into my web text in turn improving my SEO.
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cynthiamason

14 years ago

You need to use both strategies. Start out with SEO on your website. Then focus on traffic generation techniques that will bring you long term results. They take time but they are worth it. Use the following traffic tactics, social media marketing (various social networking sites, video sites, wiki authority sites, blog commenting, social bookmarking, etc.). Use article marketing on the high pr article sites. Create quality content. Create link wheels.

PPC involves testing. Your gonna want to learn more about PPC before you get started on.

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14 years ago

I agree with Aarav because if you are doing a promo for a short period of time PPC. Looking to rank long term SEO.

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Willon Maria

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Hello warriors,

Me and my friend had a long discussion about PPC versus SEO. And we argued too much and didn't come to conclusion as I supported SEO a lot. Am so confused of this argument. Can anyone explain me in detail?

Hello Friends,
I am providing a great solution based on SEO and PPC.
Websites need to mark their presence on the Internet to get more traffic. This can be done using appropriate online marketing techniques that serve to promote a given website. Search Engine Optimization (SEO) and Pay-Per-Click (PPC) are two such marketing techniques that are used to draw the attention of the end-user by ensuring that the website is displayed prominently on the result pages of popular search engines such as Bing, Yahoo and Google.SEO continues to be the top lead generating channel among U.S. digital marketers, while PPC's effectiveness as a lead gen channel is dropping significantly. So i think that social media marketing is now more effective than PPC as a lead gen channel.

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escafe

14 years ago

They are both good but one is a lot easier to control then the other.

If anything you can use PPC to find a high converting ad and use it in your title and description tag.

Personally I love both

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aadi144

14 years ago

SEO is best option to have quality links and organic one too,But PPC don't bring any organic traffic which will not going to help in your rankings.Its just the add which is placed on the top search results.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

@ All replied here.

Hello my dear Warriors, I think now I am clear but with some doubts. You have explained me a lot. Thanks for that. I wish to tell my point of view. I supported and argued for SEO because of its long time visibility and permanent back links. But SEO is not suitable for instant traffic or sale while PPC perfectly matches for instant sale.

PPC mostly used for instant traffic and selling deals like Festival deals, event deals, black friday deals and so on. SEO is the long term and confirmed sales for certain time till the visibility in SERP.

Am I right or need to know something more?

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Yohance j

14 years ago

I don't like PPC as I was coming up in different states for my local service company as well as a huge click through rate. And yes I was opted out of the display network as well

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

After all your replies, I have come to the conclusion that both are well and some warriors posted useful replies for me and I've known something from them. I expected to know more form you. Anyway thanks for your valuable replies.

Thank you..

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Banned 14 years ago

SEO is better then PPC. In PPC we do not get the maximum advantage of the online visitors or popularity. SEO is the best way for getting popularity for a website as well as exposure. SEO will also generate the online business through a website.

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klhari

14 years ago

Hi Josh Jocky,
Don't be confuse. SEO only the best for anytime. If you start PPC, how many days or how many years will you spend money for it. After PPC period if you start seo only you will get ranking for long period.
I think you got an idea..

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by klhari

Hi Josh Jocky,
Don't be confuse. SEO only the best for anytime. If you start PPC, how many days or how many years will you spend money for it. After PPC period if you start seo only you will get ranking for long period.
I think you got an idea..

I accept your reply that we can't do PPC for long time. But, SEO takes long time, If I need to sell my products within a week (for Christmas Deals, New year deals and like that), Have i to choose PPC or SEO?

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klhari 14 years ago

Nice Question Josh Jocky,
This time you will have to spend lot of money, Because of competition. In this PPC cost you can advertise many banner advertisements in High authority sites, Top ranked Classifieds site, Video creation and promotion. These are will help for SEO also.
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14 years ago

Of-course, SEO! It's more cheaper than PPC

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14 years ago

Both of them are very good, the best thing is to have both . You'll get much much better results and sales using both of them

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14 years ago

I think seo is the best for a website. its natural way to optimize..

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BigNorm

14 years ago

I'm going to disagree with most people on here and say PPC. Yes it does cost money split testing campaigns and finding which promotions/ads/keywords work best, but once you've done it for awhile you begin to understand how to best set up your test campaigns where you minimize the cost and maximize your bottom line PLUS you don't have to rely on search engines for traffic.

While SEO is a great long term goal for any site, I want to see a return for my investment now, not months down the track, plus money made from successful PPC campaigns can be used to help fund SEO projects, so it's a win/win situation. PPC funds SEO, really couldn't ask for a better partnership.

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tylerjaysen

14 years ago

I think that as a business owner....you need to work on both SEO and PPC. One isn't better than the other....and it is like comparing apples and oranges. PPC is awesome for getting immediate traffic that you can track and find which keywords are winners. SEO takes time and alot of trial and error...and you finally get traffic but it is over time....yeah it's free traffic but you sacrifice time in order to achieve any results.

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14 years ago

organic seo is the best..

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14 years ago

SEO is better on the long run

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neworleansseo

14 years ago

SEO is much cheaper!

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BigNorm 14 years ago

Originally Posted by neworleansseo

SEO is much cheaper!

:rolleyes: Tell that to all the people who brought SEO services and ended up tanking after Googles last major update.
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Weedy92

14 years ago

SEO > PPC unless you are confident your PPC spend will produce more ROI.

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14 years ago

Personally I have always preferred paid traffic then with the profits you earn hire a professional team to handle on going SEO

It all comes down to your budget however!

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14 years ago

Well, I suggest SEO too..As PPC is if invest you get results..and always on risks..

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AlphaWarrior

14 years ago

Penguin and Panda did not affect PPC. Enough said.

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Josh Jocky 14 years ago

Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior

Penguin and Panda did not affect PPC. Enough said.

Yeah.. I accept. penguin and panda won't affect, But if you do SEO perfectly, who will suffer you.. Its all based on our needs. SEO is mainly for traffic but PPC is mainly for Instant Sales.

Through both, we can get the ROI surely but the matter is how quickly we get it. Got it?
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14 years ago

In choosing between SEO and PPC, you first need to decide what size advertising budget your business can support. You can set your daily spending limit as low as you'd like, but it can be a good idea to start with a minimum of $5 to $10 a day.

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sonia06

14 years ago

I would spend 70% of my efforts and money on SEO, and 30% on PPC . SEO alone is very great, but takes a long time to achieve results . with a little PPC, you can grow your site much faster

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john franky

14 years ago

hey josh..

i think this discussion will takes some more days to get finished....anyway here is my contribution. It was already explained clearly what SEO and PPC is for in the earlier posts. Im just putting a conclusion here.
Actually SEO deserves when there is a need for long term ruling at SERP. SEO can do the best in keeping you at top for very long time so you can get your clients right to you throughout the days. If you are running a electronics or clothes like businesses you need to pick SEO to run your business its life long. And i can say that PPC is additional tag to SEO in promoting the online business. PPC needs more money that SEO needs. but there is an benefit from PPC which gives instant traffic thus sales. If you are running a online gifts shop or crackers shop or something that got sale seasonally and occasionally, PPC can help you the best.

So thats it a SEO and PPC are meant for. Hope this will help dude.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by john franky

hey josh..

i think this discussion will takes some more days to get finished....anyway here is my contribution. It was already explained clearly what SEO and PPC is for in the earlier posts. Im just putting a conclusion here.
Actually SEO deserves when there is a need for long term ruling at SERP. SEO can do the best in keeping you at top for very long time so you can get your clients right to you throughout the days. If you are running a electronics or clothes like businesses you need to pick SEO to run your business its life long. And i can say that PPC is additional tag to SEO in promoting the online business. PPC needs more money that SEO needs. but there is an benefit from PPC which gives instant traffic thus sales. If you are running a online gifts shop or crackers shop or something that got sale seasonally and occasionally, PPC can help you the best.

So thats it a SEO and PPC are meant for. Hope this will help dude.

Yes. Well Said.. but you told PPC helps in instant traffic. There is a mistake i think, PPC can give instant sales but not instant traffic.. Am I Right?

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john franky 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Yes. Well Said.. but you told PPC helps in instant traffic. There is a mistake i think, PPC can give instant sales but not instant traffic.. Am I Right?

HAHA....dude! How will you get sales? will u please explain the PPC campaign process in clear ?
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  HAHA....dude! How will you get sales? will u please explain the PPC campaign process in clear ?
  
  Dude... Control laughing.. wait for few minutes then you can start laughing.. Here topic is not going on PPC campaign.. anyway, its my duty to explain my juniors.
  
  Before explaining you, I wish to tell, all clicks don't lead to sales. If your need is to get traffic or if you have already traffic, you just don't need to go for PPC. I think, you know already that PPC is expensive than SEO. We don't need to spend much more money for traffic and no one do it.
  
  Experts choose PPC for sales only not for traffic. For example, In 10 or 15 clicks, you can get 3 or 4 sales but using 15 clicks you don't get more traffic right? are 15 clicks improve your site's traffic?
  
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Pardeeps 14 years ago

SEO is a slow process to push up your website on the top of search engine and its cost very little. and the second part PPC is very different than SEO,PPC give you results on Search Engine Instantly,but its cost is very high.
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RedShifted

14 years ago

I think you can determine which is better after you determine your ROI. Which will depend on so many factors. Some people blow tons of money on SEO and the ROI in the end winds up being far worse than PPC. Other people have developed economical/efficient ways to rank their sites and in that case its definitely worth it.

Then the same thing applies to PPC. Some people optimize pages poorly, and will have a crappy ROI. Others know what they're doing, and so its worth it for them.

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sarika1 14 years ago

Well,i think PPC can be great for seeding content.That doesn't mean Seo is not best.but You will need to follow SEO best practices to try to get your site displayed on these pages more prominently and more often.
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Trevor

14 years ago

SEO takes more time to get results, but it's a long-term solution.

PPC is short-term, but the results are almost instantaneous.

Now it's up to you which of these you choose. Best practice is to do both.

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14 years ago

PPC is a stable, reliable source of traffic and income. I've been able to tune campaigns to get traffic to my offers and profit consistently day in and day out. There's no faster method to test the effectiveness of your sales funnel.

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14 years ago

SEO because it can give you long term benefits unlike the PPC. PPC stops as soon as u stop paying for it.

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BigNorm 14 years ago

Originally Posted by rain21

SEO because it can give you long term benefits unlike the PPC. PPC stops as soon as u stop paying for it.

Ahhhhh, wrong. PPC set up right on a site can help improve SEO by increasing your target traffic, reducing your bounce rate(once again if your site is set up right) by increasing onsite time and page views.

It's not hard to set up your site where people will want to do 2-3 page views on your site. Something structured like this:

Home Page: Content with link to another page on your site which goes to a video embedded. The video link opens in a new tab or window which ever you choose makes no difference.

Video Page: Has a short 1 minute video based around something related to your site. Start of the video mention that the end of the video will provide a free download. At the end of the video you tell the user to scroll to the bottom of the page for the download link. The user needs to scroll down to the download link. When they click it, it goes to another page on your site. This can either open a new tab or in the same one, makes no difference at this stage.

Download page: Short opt in form the user needs to fill in to get the free download. If you wanted to be a little black hat, you could blur out the opt in form forcing the user to "like" your site before getting access to the form. I've never really tried this method, but have seen something similar which is completely white hat on SEORush which I thought was very cool, they delayed the results page with a pop up recommending people to like their page while they waited. Very cool idea and stays within FB terms and conditions.

Right there, three page views where your on site time has increased, your bounce rate has dropped and you have now got a new subscriber and maybe even a FB like.

So tell me once again, how does PPC have no long term benefits?
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14 years ago

As with anything in life, it's about horses for courses.

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john franky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Experts choose PPC for sales only not for traffic. For example, In 10 or 15 clicks, you can get 3 or 4 sales but using 15 clicks you don't get more traffic right? are 15 clicks improve your site's traffic?

LOL..

Can't understand whats your idea about PPC. Let me give my words.

PPC(Pay-Per-Click) is an online advertising method where you have to pay some bidding money to get a position in paid results at your targeted keyword SERP. So users who came for the search results of your targeted keyword can click on these results to buy your services/products. If what you are providing is fine then you can get more sales. PPC, SEO, Affliate marketing, Emarketing, Forum marketing, whatever you are doing is just to take people before your services/products (your website). Then website qualities, popularity, reviews, and many more plays the role of running a sale.

YES, i agree that PPC or any other marketing campaign is to get sales which comes only when traffic comes to your site. In simple words, conversion of traffic to further step is called Sales.

Sorry i can't help you more than this. If still you are finding mistakes, Report error to WIKIPEDIA/wiki/Pay_per_click.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by john franky

Sorry i can't help you more than this. If still you are finding mistakes, Report error to WIKIPEDIAwiki/Pay_per_click.

I didn't ask your help and i'll never ask you... Why do u stain yourself to help me.,. just carry on.. All u replied is from your mind, all I posted is from my mind.. you don't have rights to correct me.. OK.. i don't want to argue with you more..

Keep in mind. it doesn't mean that i don't know, it means, i can't explain you..

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john franky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

I didn't ask your help and i'll never ask you... Why do u stain yourself to help me.,. just carry on.. All u replied is from your mind, all I posted is from my mind.. you don't have rights to correct me.. OK.. i don't want to argue with you more..

Keep in mind. it doesn't mean that i don't know, it means, i can't explain you..

COOOLLL...

This is not off topic forum to tell my personal suggestions.

We are not here to argue... i personally came to this land to gain some knowledge and to share the same. Apologies if it hurts you...anyway keep going with some more useful threads.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by john franky

COOOLLL...

This is not off topic forum to tell my personal suggestions.

We are not here to argue... i personally came to this land to gain some knowledge and to share the same. Apologies if it hurts you...anyway keep going with some more useful threads.

I'm always coooooooooool...... :p

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Dinuvenkat

14 years ago

PPC is used for only getting Instant lead for your business but low traffic,
If you are doing White Hat SEO technique, surely you getting the long time SERP, More traffic and also Lead for your business.
In my point of view SEO is the best.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dinuvenkat

PPC is used for only getting Instant lead for your business but low traffic,
If you are doing White Hat SEO technique, surely you getting the long time SERP, More traffic and also Lead for your business.
In my point of view SEO is the best.

Thanks for replying me.. Anyway, you've started the topic of white hat seo techniques.. thread is Going very interesting..

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Clint Faber

14 years ago

Off-site SEO should always be done after the PPC campaign depending on the competition. It really boils down to the fact that off-site SEO is cost-effective over at long duration of time after you have determine which keywords are profitable by testing with PPC.

It is important to understand there's on-site SEO and off-site SEO and you are absolutely want to implement on-site SEO before running PPC campaigns as it was drastically decrease year cost per click by increasing your quality score.

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kazim

14 years ago

There is no options without SEO to get good traffic.

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webmasteradam111

14 years ago

When you start your website then PPC is useful because by using this your website appear on first page of search engines,

and if you want your website ranks always on desired keywords then SEO is the best .

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SerenaGomez

14 years ago

Hey buddy, you are comparing Apples with Oranges

PPC is for those who want quick results but there also you need to keep a track of whether your ad is ranking on 1st page or not. Are you bidding properly or not and so many things.

In SEO, results are slow but once you pick up you can stay there for long.

So if you are new to SEO, I would suggest you to opt for an SEO and learn for sometime. Once you get an idea about all this, go for PPC too!!

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SerenaGomez

Hey buddy, you are comparing Apples with Oranges

PPC is for those who want quick results but there also you need to keep a track of whether your ad is ranking on 1st page or not. Are you bidding properly or not and so many things.

In SEO, results are slow but once you pick up you can stay there for long.

So if you are new to SEO, I would suggest you to opt for an SEO and learn for sometime. Once you get an idea about all this, go for PPC too!!

Better idea.. I'll keep following..

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johnpaulgrant

14 years ago

I have used both ppc and seo for my online campaigns. If you want immediate results, go with PPC. PPC is very effective if you have the right keywords, you work on the budget and you make really good ads for good quality score, and etc. With seo, results may take longer to see but also very effective. Well, you can also do both.

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nekwf

14 years ago

Both are components into making a site. Build SEO to create traffic and good traffic will give you good PPC return.

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xramp

14 years ago

It all depends on the site business.
Lets say you have an eCommerce sites, for which PPC will work better than SEO, BUT this doesn`t mean SEO won`t work for eCommerce site. (For those business people who need instant results PPC is the best option)

SEO is the way through which you can get long term benefits. Now-a-days all big businesses are concentrating both SEO & PPC. I think it`s enough to tell that SEO is equally important to PPC.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by xramp

It all depends on the site business.
Lets say you have an eCommerce sites, for which PPC will work better than SEO, BUT this doesn`t mean SEO won`t work for eCommerce site. (For those business people who need instant results PPC is the best option)

SEO is the way through which you can get long term benefits. Now-a-days all big businesses are concentrating both SEO & PPC. I think it`s enough to tell that SEO is equally important to PPC.

Yeah.. you're right... PPC is more appropriate for E-Commerce while SEO is not much suitable for E-Commerce. Because, SEO has to be done using certain keywords only.. E-commerce sites have more products to sell so that PPC suits for E-commerce...

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14 years ago

SEO is the best..I don't like PPC..I like technics in SEO and I can learn more about it

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jackjiang

14 years ago

In my opinion, SEO is better,as more and more people use serch engines to find information.

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florabell

14 years ago

Hi guys, also a newbie.... but i think both serves its own purpose... both are best to serve your income generate skyrocket cash.....that is the most important, right? better implement both methods...i bet, these are inseparable.....majority if not all use both....right? Thanks, it got me thinking....

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2pat

14 years ago

Hi,
PPC is one of the greatest way to tests ! but you have to know exactly what you are doing. Better get some professional advises.
Good day to all of you
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dotgirish

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Hello warriors,

Me and my friend had a long discussion about PPC versus SEO. And we argued too much and didn't come to conclusion as I supported SEO a lot. Am so confused of this argument. Can anyone explain me in detail?

I would say to Mix it up . PPC can bring in immediate results but cost you more. where as SEO may cost less and can take time. So If you are in a hurry , start with PPC and do SEO parallel , then keep reducing PPC budget as you get the results from SEO.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dotgirish

I would say to Mix it up . PPC can bring in immediate results but cost you more. where as SEO may cost less and can take time. So If you are in a hurry , start with PPC and do SEO parallel , then keep reducing PPC budget as you get the results from SEO.

Good Idea. I ll keep in my mind.. What u r coming to say is, should not do PPC forever, when you get results from SEO, there is no need of PPC. Am I right?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Good Idea. I ll keep in my mind.. What u r coming to say is, should not do PPC forever, when you get results from SEO, there is no need of PPC. Am I right?

No , I didn't mean that. Actually it depends on how it goes with your SEO. if you are satisfied with your traffic from SEO , then its your call. But most important is track the results.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dotgirish

No , I didn't mean that. Actually it depends on how it goes with your SEO. if you are satisfied with your traffic from SEO , then its your call. But most important is track the results.

Hmmm..

Now I got it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Jocky

Hello warriors,

Me and my friend had a long discussion about PPC versus SEO. And we argued too much and didn't come to conclusion as I supported SEO a lot. Am so confused of this argument. Can anyone explain me in detail?

Which approach is better? It depends on your needs and budget. If you want more traffic fast and are willing to pay for it, then PPC might be right for you. But if you're operating on a shoestring budget, it may make more sense to invest time in chasing high search rankings through SEO.

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andishm

14 years ago

I prefer SEO as compared to PPC since if done in right way SEO is having more long term oppurtunity with less investment as compared to PPC where to run your campaign every day you need cash to invest.

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john franky

14 years ago

Is there any fine and equivalent method for getting targeted traffic other than SEO and PPC? Kindly list for me...i can't able to spend more money and not even time...

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by john franky

Is there any fine and equivalent method for getting targeted traffic other than SEO and PPC? Kindly list for me...i can't able to spend more money and not even time...

No other methods will work for you to get targeted traffic. Either, you should spend your time for SEO or you've to pay for traffic...

Other methods,

SMO(Takes time), Affiliate marketing (CPA)

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by john franky

Is there any fine and equivalent method for getting targeted traffic other than SEO and PPC? Kindly list for me...i can't able to spend more money and not even time...

A really simple way which people never seem to make more use of is joining FB groups and pages related to your niche. Create a FB account for your business, then use the search function to look for related groups.

Lets say you built a review site on power drills. You create your FB page and then use the search function at the top to look for groups related to DIY, Woodworking, Handymen etc. But when you do your search don't pick one of the top 8 results, click the "See more results for "keyword" then use the tabs on the left to look for pages and groups.

Then begin to join in the discussions providing real posts and comments, nothing spammy. People will begin to look at your profile and then your site from there. You can also provide a free download with an opt in list either from FB or website.

As previously stated it does take time, but if you do this with Twitter and Google+, you'll begin to get alot more targeted traffic and it helps your rankings as well with occasional social signals dropped in here and there.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BigNorm

A really simple way which people never seem to make more use of is joining FB groups and pages related to your niche. Create a FB account for your business, then use the search function to look for related groups.

Lets say you built a review site on power drills. You create your FB page and then use the search function at the top to look for groups related to DIY, Woodworking, Handymen etc. But when you do your search don't pick one of the top 8 results, click the "See more results for "keyword" then use the tabs on the left to look for pages and groups.

Then begin to join in the discussions providing real posts and comments, nothing spammy. People will begin to look at your profile and then your site from there. You can also provide a free download with an opt in list either from FB or website.

As previously stated it does take time, but if you do this with Twitter and Google+, you'll begin to get alot more targeted traffic and it helps your rankings as well with occasional social signals dropped in here and there.

Hmmm.. You are right......

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Johnny12345

14 years ago

I like PPC -- it's FAST.

As long as you split-test and track your results, it's great.

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14 years ago

I also think SEO is better than PPC.

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jacksamu

14 years ago

PPC is a quick way to get traffic while SEO may take times depends upon how you implement the rules.But, I think SEO is good among PPC.

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Eugeanne

14 years ago

I agree on dburk. Its good to have balance on everything. SEO is good for creating backlinks and site traffic. However, if you want to have an instant visitor and if you have a budget try PPC also. They are both beneficial to your site.

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Prosper2day

14 years ago

They are two different things PPC is purchasing your place in your market/ niche which could be extremely costly especially if your new and not sure what your doing.
On the other hand SEO is earning your place within your market/ niche through providing value and some elbow grease and I believe it has much greater benefits down the road.

You've gotta decide what's more important or convenient for you and what type of business and reputation your trying to build.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Prosper2day

They are two different things PPC is purchasing your place in your market/ niche which could be extremely costly especially if your new and not sure what your doing.
On the other hand SEO is earning your place within your market/ niche through providing value and some elbow grease and I believe it has much greater benefits down the road.

You've gotta decide what's more important or convenient for you and what type of business and reputation your trying to build.

hmmmm. ok. Actually, most of fellow warriors told to do both in same time for better result. I think, both will be convenient for me. Anyway, I will try both at once. Thank you for reply...

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johnpaulgrant 14 years ago

Do ppc if you want to achieve immediate results. SEO may take for a while before you get the results but it's long term. I use both in my online campaigns.
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Laura Stevens

14 years ago

Go for SEO.

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mmrumii

14 years ago

To me, I think here is nothing to compare with each other
cause they are different topic, I can't understand why did you ask this .
But To me SEO is always best. I'm already involved .

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bonnieshona

14 years ago

I used to love SEO but nowadays I believe Google Adwords is the best since I can advertise myself on unlimited keywords unlike SEO where even ranking number one for a keyword can take many months if not years.

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ArcherWylde

14 years ago

I am new to this, but from what I understand they both have their benefits and uses, like PPC is great for CPA and product offers...where SEO can be great for adsense

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ArcherWylde

I am new to this, but from what I understand they both have their benefits and uses, like PPC is great for CPA and product offers...where SEO can be great for adsense

SEO cant be great for AdSense. May be related to Adsense. Because, in PPC your site is getting placed depending Quality of the Site and it is based on the 3 factors upon the bidding amount.

1. Landing Page of the site
2. Relevancy
3. CTR

So, SEO has nothing to do in PPC.

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14 years ago

PPC is paid mode.

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TheBlueWizard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mandeepkumar815

Both of them are very good but Pay per click is just frittering money away when SEO is free.

Effective SEO is not free. Sure, you can do things manually, but it just eats up so much time.

Even if you are really picky and refined with your keyword research, you're still going to need to build back links even to rank the zero competition keywords to the top, and these are keywords that garner anywhere from 100-1000 search a month, a little more if you're lucky.

SEO and PPC should be used in conjunction honestly; in actuality, PPC may be a better educator in learning what the 'real' profitable keywords are (laser targeted keywords).

SEO means executing proper keyword research to find keywords that are profitable, yet have very low competition. PPC involves using laser targeted keywords right off the bat, and writing/creating ads that get high CTR rates. High ad CTR rates = Google makes more money = your cpc bids are lowered = everyone wins.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheBlueWizard

Effective SEO is not free. Sure, you can do things manually, but it just eats up so much time.

Even if you are really picky and refined with your keyword research, you're still going to need to build back links even to rank the zero competition keywords to the top, and these are keywords that garner anywhere from 100-1000 search a month, a little more if you're lucky.

SEO and PPC should be used in conjunction honestly; in actuality, PPC may be a better educator in learning what the 'real' profitable keywords are (laser targeted keywords).

SEO means executing proper keyword research to find keywords that are profitable, yet have very low competition. PPC involves using laser targeted keywords right off the bat, and writing/creating ads that get high CTR rates. High ad CTR rates = Google makes more money = your cpc bids are lowered = everyone wins.

You're right.. SEO is not completely free. it eats so much time and small bit of money too.

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Damienelsing

14 years ago

SEO or PPC both are best in their own ways ! SEO is a natural way to get traffic & another way PPC is different that SEO, PPC is paid mode. PPC is best way to get fast traffic.

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blackmoon

14 years ago

Each type has particular useful but in my opinion, SEO is better.

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Aira Bongco

14 years ago

There's really nothing to argue about. SEO gives you free traffic if you do it yourself and the traffic lasts as long as you keep your ranking. PPC is paid traffic. You get traffic as long as you have the money to spend. The question on which one is better depends on how well you can convert traffic to sales.

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ina_j6

14 years ago

I am new at this, but based on what I learned, I think you need to use both strategies,
PPC and SEO, as they are both great methods for promoting your websites.
SEO, although it takes long time but it can generate long term result.
PPC, is a quick way to get highly targetted traffic, but you need to spend money.

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Josh Jocky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ina_j6

I am new at this, but based on what I learned, I think you need to use both strategies,
PPC and SEO, as they are both great methods for promoting your websites.
SEO, although it takes long time but it can generate long term result.
PPC, is a quick way to get highly targeted traffic, but you need to spend money.

Hmm.. yes.. you're right..

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