Manually SEO work Important or use of software

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Like to Know About What U r Doing in SEO? means use s/w for Directory Submission, Article Submission, Social Bookmakring etc, Because i am in SEO for last 4 + year and do all work Manually and get good result and mostly client Happy with work and Result.

So my question is Manually SEO work Important or use of software
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Coe
    Manually is always more valuable then automatic in SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author futureseo
      ya right we do all work 100% manually so client get more benefit and ranking increase really good.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenukas
      Originally Posted by Isaiah Coe View Post

      Manually is always more valuable then automatic in SEO.
      What if I can automate your manual work ? This leaves you way behind. If we would talk about public tools,then you can say yes,these days you can get things done better doing manual links + if doing SEO for big budget company you must deliver quality links which tools cant do
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  • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
    Manual is a must. But automation is a must as well, you need equal parts. One alone cannot rely on all manual if they want faster ROI. Manual for Teir 1, 50/50 Teir 2, the rest automation.
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  • Profile picture of the author kchanda
    Of course manually SEO. IF you use any bot, Google will stop indexing your page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
      Originally Posted by kchanda View Post

      Of course manually SEO. IF you use any bot, Google will stop indexing your page.
      Not true...
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      • Profile picture of the author HFlame7
        You can always use a combinational hybrid of the two. That is what I use.
        But looking at my sig, you can see that I'd be a bit biased on this topic
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      • Profile picture of the author aadi144
        Originally Posted by Weedy92 View Post

        Not true...

        Agreed,its not at all true.Manually doing SEO gives more boost but there are times when one has to do Automated SEO,but for me its only for checking the suitable keywords,i don't use any software while commenting on forums,blogs or anywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    Tier 2 and 3, if you know about this way, use software.. if you are doing web 2.0, blog positing, article directories than highly recommend use your hands without giving access to your robots..
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    • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
      Originally Posted by boosters View Post

      Tier 2 and 3, if you know about this way, use software.. if you are doing web 2.0, blog positing, article directories than highly recommend use your hands without giving access to your robots..
      I am reading tier 1, tier 2, tier 3,...etc. quite many times in SEO threads. BTW what is tier in SEO?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kreator517
        Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

        I am reading tier 1, tier 2, tier 3,...etc. quite many times in SEO threads. BTW what is tier in SEO?
        Tier 1 : Points to your money site. Should be highest-quality content
        Tier2: Points to tier 1 links. The goal is to get tier one links indexed and perhaps some PR
        Tier3: points to tier 2. You mainly just want to get tier 2 indexed.

        FYI, to get any meaningful link juice, its simply impossible to build an adequate 2nd and third tier without automation. Sure, you can build 100 manual tier1 links. Can you manually build 1,000 tier 2 links to those? 100,000 tier 3? I think not.
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  • Profile picture of the author aawebdev
    Manual option is always better then automatic software generated seo. Now days bot is not allowed and the rule is very much strict.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      It's not that manual is better. If you are doing the same
      things as that auto-crapola, how is that better?

      If your auto-whatever is somehow doing good stuff,
      and in less time, then yes, it's more valuable as it
      takes less time.

      It's what gets done, not whether it's manual or auto.

      In fact, many times I like to think that my manual is
      on auto, and my auto is doing manual.

      1,000 auto shtuff is just as lousy as 1,000 manual stuff.

      Check that. The 1,000 manual shtuff is lousier, as you
      just wasted your time.

      Someone posted 50+ blogs to spam. So, you spam those 50
      blogs, manually, that's worth the same as 1,000 auto spammed.

      Absolutely nothing.

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  • Profile picture of the author vajra123
    Manual seo work is more valuable than of use any software.
    Google counts it in spam and dont like this method.
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  • Profile picture of the author sonia06
    Manual SEO is much much more valuable . sometimes help of a software is not bad, but for the most part do It manually to ahieve best results
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    What you do in essence is what is important, not whether it is automated or not.

    If you build very crappy and shi**y backlinks in an automated way, you won't get anywhere that's for sure.

    If you build such backlinks manually, the results will be the same.

    If you build high-quality backlinks manually, the results will be good.

    If you can automate high-quality backlink creation, it's even better, because you will get the good results with much less effort and time spent doing the work.
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  • Profile picture of the author RajSrivastav
    I always prefer manual submissions to avoid getting links from low quality sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author mcatt
    I strictly do all my work manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
    I was told manual is the only safe way to do seo now with how google is rewarding or penalizing
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  • Profile picture of the author headmaster211
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    First of you all you need to have a good strategy or backlinking structure. You need do manual backlinks for some and automated for some. Also, high quality backlinks matters the most. Don't waste your time getting thousands of crappy backlinks.

    Use 2 or 3-tier structure for creating your backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aarav
    Manual is the best. Don't go with the software because its affects your website. Do it manually for top SERP positioning, genuine traffic and better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    If software can work better and save than manual, why not?
    However, I have never encountered such software
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  • Profile picture of the author engagedotscrm
    I would prefer to do manually, only then we can analyze and work more. use of software is waste of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Right now with the way Google is any automated link building is risky.

    I used to do a lot of linkbuilding with article networks, xrumer, senuke etc...

    I have cancelled all my memberships now and I am using that money on building extra content for my sites and building links for the purposes of traffic.

    There are lots of ways to get traffic without organic search results. Concentrate on them and buildcontent and you will get some seo rankings anyway.

    When the dust settles I will start more aggressive seo again once I know what is safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanta81
    I would recommend to do manual wok as much as possible and do the rest of the work through software. Google can sense anything, it finds fishy. So, its better to play on the safer side. It might take time to do tings manually but eventually you would be in good books of Google .
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Guns just like softwares are good and bad, it depends on the handler.

    Fact is, you can not use tool 100%, in places where we have to go manual we humbly do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernies
    Manual is always better in the long term because you won't get deranked by google. However for niche sites, software can work well.
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  • Profile picture of the author futureseo
    Thanks for all your ans really nice to see mostly person do manually work.
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  • Profile picture of the author thecatalyst
    Manual SEO is the best you can do... Automatic SEO will die sooner or later...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ezra Anderson
    I think people confuse "manual" backlinks with "quality backlinks".

    Generally, manual backlinks are higher quality, but not always.
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    • Both manual SEO and automatic submission work as long as you use them properly. For best results, use manual submission. It may take longer to get results, but it's well worth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author futureseo
    thanks for nice support for manually submission is best for all service
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  • Profile picture of the author perfumer
    You can use software to do SEO only after you master doing it manually
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  • Profile picture of the author GFI
    Well, I prefer to to SEO via manually, as we all know that Google will not accept you if you will go this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheBlueWizard
    No issues with automation.

    Honestly, just find ways to make your automated links play by Google's rules, and always have buffer tier 1 sites you can pull the plug on in case things ever go south.
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    • Profile picture of the author CourtTuttle
      I prefer to do my SEO work manually but honestly there are right and wrong ways to do it whether you're doing it 'manually' or 'automatically'.

      I run a service where people can submit guest posts to other sites and honestly, some of the guest posts that are written 'manually' (not purchased from a writing service) are just as bad as the worst stuff you can spin or buy.

      Running that business has given me a lot of insight into how a lot of people are doing SEO. Honestly, a lot of people need to get a lot better at providing value. People are pretty messy even if they are doing things manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Use both man. The way of using hybrid method makes a sense with SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author vikap27
    Manual SEO is much much more valuable . sometimes help of a software is not bad, but for the most part do It manually to ahieve best result
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  • Profile picture of the author anne785
    Both are equally important in some cases the manual submission is best but the automatic software also saves the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Sterbenk
    It's interesting how people think. We believe that if we do some work manually, that would give us better results. In some cases, that is true - but because we did it better and not because we did it manually! But that isn't true in many other cases - if software is able to do the same thing as good as we would do it or even better and we still want to do it manually, then we are wasting our time, which is the same as if we were throwing money away. We only have limited time available for our business and we need to make sure that we use it wisely.
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  • Profile picture of the author She
    I like use manually..It's saver than automatic..Because I work for my client, so I do it carefully
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    • Profile picture of the author ecofriend
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      Originally Posted by DavisJoseph View Post

      Manually submission is better than automated submission. When you are using article submissions, directory submissions or social bookmarking or forum submissions, the most important is that all the submissions are made manually. Each and every submission has be to be done manually. This can prove to be a laborious task but only when the submissions are done manually you will be able to get the best results.

      Yes i agree with you. Manually submission is best rather then automated software.
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    I personally use softwares and manual both. Even people think that softwares always make crappy spam links while it is not always truth you can create quality web 2.0 blogs or high PR bookmark with schedule task and it will work like natural human work itself....
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  • Profile picture of the author curationsoft
    manually works best in doing seo. search engine sites did not recognize works from autobot so most of them ended up in spam
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    • Profile picture of the author UnkwnUsr
      The reality is that Google can't tell the difference between a manual link and a automated one all they can do is look at the entire link profile and run it through an algorithm to determine if it's natural looking. You could build a bunch of manual links that when passed through the algorithm throw up red flags because the anchor text, sources and timing of the links don't appear natural. Meanwhile with good software and an understanding of how the algorithm works all those red flags could easily be avoided.
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      • Profile picture of the author andishm
        Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

        The reality is that Google can't tell the difference between a manual link and a automated one all they can do is look at the entire link profile and run it through an algorithm to determine if it's natural looking. You could build a bunch of manual links that when passed through the algorithm throw up red flags because the anchor text, sources and timing of the links don't appear natural. Meanwhile with good software and an understanding of how the algorithm works all those red flags could easily be avoided.
        Well said, thats what theory I too believe if you have reach to any good seo software for eg and you build high pr lik and tiered links it may help your website look natural. So its not software which end up with spam it is the user/user's plan who use it correctly or not... Building 1000s links even manually per day = SPAM DEATH of site.
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        • Profile picture of the author UnkwnUsr
          Originally Posted by andishm View Post

          Well said, thats what theory I too believe if you have reach to any good seo software for eg and you build high pr lik and tiered links it may help your website look natural. So its not software which end up with spam it is the user/user's plan who use it correctly or not... Building 1000s links even manually per day = SPAM DEATH of site.
          The speed at which your link profile grows is also a red flag to Google if your site starts getting tons of links at a time this is a bad thing in Google's eyes. It must appear that other websites are really linking to your site because of quality content. Software can actually help with this because links can be randomly drip fed so that they appear more natural. When doing manual links it is only natural to set up certain methods to get the most out of what you're doing but this could also lead to patterns that are easily recognized by Google as manipulative.
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          • Profile picture of the author andishm
            Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

            The speed at which your link profile grows is also a red flag to Google if your site starts getting tons of links at a time this is a bad thing in Google's eyes. It must appear that other websites are really linking to your site because of quality content. Software can actually help with this because links can be randomly drip fed so that they appear more natural. When doing manual links it is only natural to set up certain methods to get the most out of what you're doing but this could also lead to patterns that are easily recognized by Google as manipulative.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by Isaiah Coe View Post

      Manually is always more valuable then automatic in SEO.
      Originally Posted by futureseo View Post

      ya right we do all work 100% manually so client get more benefit and ranking increase really good.
      Originally Posted by kchanda View Post

      Of course manually SEO. IF you use any bot, Google will stop indexing your page.
      Originally Posted by aawebdev View Post

      Manual option is always better then automatic software generated seo. Now days bot is not allowed and the rule is very much strict.
      Originally Posted by vajra123 View Post

      Manual seo work is more valuable than of use any software.
      Google counts it in spam and dont like this method.
      Originally Posted by sonia06 View Post

      Manual SEO is much much more valuable . sometimes help of a software is not bad, but for the most part do It manually to ahieve best results
      Originally Posted by RajSrivastav View Post

      I always prefer manual submissions to avoid getting links from low quality sites.
      Originally Posted by mcatt View Post

      I strictly do all my work manually.
      Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

      I was told manual is the only safe way to do seo now with how google is rewarding or penalizing
      Originally Posted by Aarav View Post

      Manual is the best. Don't go with the software because its affects your website. Do it manually for top SERP positioning, genuine traffic and better results.
      Originally Posted by engagedotscrm View Post

      I would prefer to do manually, only then we can analyze and work more. use of software is waste of money.
      Originally Posted by kilobytestechnologies View Post

      I would prefer to do manually
      Originally Posted by fanta81 View Post

      I would recommend to do manual wok as much as possible and do the rest of the work through software. Google can sense anything, it finds fishy. So, its better to play on the safer side. It might take time to do tings manually but eventually you would be in good books of Google .
      Originally Posted by Ernies View Post

      Manual is always better in the long term because you won't get deranked by google. However for niche sites, software can work well.
      Originally Posted by thecatalyst View Post

      Manual SEO is the best you can do... Automatic SEO will die sooner or later...
      Originally Posted by futureseo View Post

      thanks for nice support for manually submission is best for all service
      Originally Posted by GFI View Post

      Well, I prefer to to SEO via manually, as we all know that Google will not accept you if you will go this way.
      Originally Posted by vikap27 View Post

      Manual SEO is much much more valuable . sometimes help of a software is not bad, but for the most part do It manually to ahieve best result
      Originally Posted by She View Post

      I like use manually..It's saver than automatic..Because I work for my client, so I do it carefully
      Originally Posted by curationsoft View Post

      manually works best in doing seo. search engine sites did not recognize works from autobot so most of them ended up in spam
      For all those people who keep insisting that manual is good, show me a proof from Matt Cutts (or any Google's documentation) saying that "We want you to manually backlink to your main sites".

      Manual or automatic, it's still considered BLACKHAT to Google. As long as you do the backlinks, it's blackhat.

      All I know from Google is that they want natural backlinks from users who wants to link to great content.

      So get your facts right.
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      Originally Posted by curationsoft View Post

      manually works best in doing seo. search engine sites did not recognize works from autobot so most of them ended up in spam
      agree with you bro.
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    Google is trying to get rid of crappy spammy websites, so websites that are highly resistant to automation are less likely to be full of spammy nonsense, and therefore less likely to get penalized, if you can use automated submission on a website, it is likely to be full of garbage, and going manual on it probably won't make a difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author narenfomax
    Better use both manual as well as automaton tool. Use manual link building for 1st tier link and you can use automaton tool to get 2nd and 3rd tier links. But don't do anything blindly, it may harm at the end. Use automaton tool, but make sure it does make sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hrkjds
    Manual submission is good. But if you are doing directory submission still, then software can be used.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bluebell89
    Manual work is a must to monitor and adjust the offsets by SEO done through software. Using SEO hosting sites like Dollar SEO hosting is really efficient too as it takes good care of your websites SEO needs at a cheap price. They have good support to help you out with your problems too
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  • Profile picture of the author Bluebell89
    Using both helps actually. You have to use the correct software to ensure you get the best for your websites. Services like Dollar SEO hosting are really good for those seeking advanced SEO tools
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  • Profile picture of the author Bluebell89
    I think using both helps and with services like dollar SEO hosting, it works better
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  • Profile picture of the author itdon
    Manually seo is always good then seo with software but result of Manually seo is very good.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoace
    For anyone saying "manual is the best" and "if you do automatic seo, Google would punish you", etc then good luck in your SEO if you happen to compete against an automated SEO who has half a brain.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by seoace View Post

      For anyone saying "manual is the best" and "if you do automatic seo, Google would punish you", etc then good luck in your SEO if you happen to compete against an automated SEO who has half a brain.
      Forgive them. They can't tell the difference between "Natural backlinks" and "Manual backlinks".
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  • Profile picture of the author helpandinfo
    Originally Posted by futureseo View Post

    hello Friend

    Like to Know About What U r Doing in SEO? means use s/w for Directory Submission, Article Submission, Social Bookmakring etc, Because i am in SEO for last 4 + year and do all work Manually and get good result and mostly client Happy with work and Result.

    So my question is Manually SEO work Important or use of software
    I half suspect that your post was created largely to create visibility for your own SEO service but I can certainly give you my take on it as I am also in the SEO industry and can look at it from the other side than the manual work that you do.

    Personally I firmly believe that you need manual Seo as well as software or tech-based Seo. The simple fact of the matter is that manually you will never create enough of the lower quality links that really most top websites are expected to acquire alongside the obvious high PR links which are essential for ranking.

    The essence of backlinking since the various penguin updates has been variety and lots of it. This should not just mean in the anchor text which you use which should be really varied with a lower percentage of money keywords or you can expect a slap BUT it also means in the type of website that you have backlinking towards your own. By having ONLY high PR links pointing back to your website you can easily be spotted as a "backlinks manipulator" just the same as you can if you only have thousands of low quality forum backlinks.

    This is also true of ALL your backlinks being DOFOLLOW - there should definitely be a fair sprinkling of NOFOLLOW links as well.

    The Answer to Your Question Therefore Is "Mix it up!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Loopholemarketers
    It's not one or the other.

    The key is simulating popularity.

    How would you tell someone a site is worth checking out?

    Simulate that over and over, as naturally as possible.
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    Google counts it in spam and dont like this method.
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    Yes you can control on your work only with manual work..
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