Too good to be true niche?

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Hi All,

Im new to the forum and new to niche websites. Im a web designer and know some SEO (the important bits).

I have MS and have searched my niche using a tactic found on this forum. The keyword I found has 400+ thousand monthly searches at medium competition. Its a 5 word keyword. And I can get the domain name in .com .co.uk .net .org all available for an exact match domain.

The approx CPC is 0.91p GB (probably about $1.30 in USD)

Is this too good to be true? Is there something I havent looked into?
Does this sound like a good niche, shall I grab it?

thank you
#good #niche #true
  • Profile picture of the author asadulhaq
    It's true It's very good niche, with a great SEO You can make much money with It
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    To good to be true only applies to the real world in my experience. I have uncovered a few nuggets that generate 10+ dollars a day, just sitting there waiting for the ripped fruit to be picked.

    I think the thing to remember is global searching habits change constantly, so someone who looked at that last year may have found something completely different and unappealing.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    You better make sure you are checking exact match and not broad match searches. That number sounds pottery high for a 5 word keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beardo
    Sound like fantasy land to me. 5 words ???
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    • Profile picture of the author brienn
      you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours
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      • Profile picture of the author 1byte
        Originally Posted by brienn View Post

        you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours
        Not really. I don't care how many pages compete against me. Why would I care about the competing pages on page 2...or page 102 for that matter? The most important competition I need to worry about is what's on page 1 of the SERPs, because that is where I want to rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Whats the difference between exact and broad?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Whats the difference between exact and broad?
      Broad match tells you how many times a phrase appears in a search query, with the words in any order and including any other words.

      Let's say your keywords is 'pink elephants'.

      pink elephants
      pink elephants with three legs
      how to find pink elephants at a reasonable price
      my elephants turned pink
      I painted the toenails of all of my elephants pink

      These phrases would ALL contribute to the broad match results. So really broad match tells you almost nothing useful.

      Exact match is how many queries are done with that exact phrase.

      pink elephants

      is the only phrase that contributes to that result.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    You need to look at the competition as well on first page to see if you can rank amongst them
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Ahh right I see what you mean. When bringing it down to a 'exact match' equals 1 search result daily = no income
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Ahh right I see what you mean. When bringing it down to a 'exact match' equals 1 search result daily = no income
      As mentioned by Mike Friedman, broad search tells you almost nothing useful. You need to be using exact search to more accurately gauge potential traffic.

      1 exact search daily will equal miniscule if any traffic, hence little, if any income. 1 search per day for your keyword will total approx. 30 searches per month. Even if you can rank your site at #1 in Google for that keyword, and you got 50% click through, that would be about 15 visitors per month. I would say 15 per month (or 1 every 2 days) is essentially no visitors. Sorry to burst your bubble...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dragontech
    The question comes to how you came up with "medium comp"...make sure to check the top 5 competitors with MS before deciding
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  • Profile picture of the author Marygood
    You have to check out your competitors too
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Very useful information thank you.
    This may sound dumb but what is SERP's?
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Very useful information thank you.
      This may sound dumb but what is SERP's?
      No, it's not a dumb question when you're starting out.

      SERPs means Search Engine Results Pages. That means, all of the pages that come up when you query a keyword in Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. those are the Search Engine Results Pages, or SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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    I advise getting SENuke. It's niche finder is pretty good for finding good niches that you can investigate further. It gives you a few results based on your niche search. If you get a few 'VERY EASY' searches, you can go and investigate further. When it reports "dont waste your time" or "HARD", you simply don't bother.

    You can get a SENuke trial which will help you find your first niche for free!
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Ok, so what would you class as high competition?
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    • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Ok, so what would you class as high competition?
      Go out and look for yourself. Search with intitle:keyword, check the #1, #2 and #3 backlinks profile. Check their pagerank. Check all their other content (is it related content?).

      Finding high-paying niches requires time and effort, and lots of it.

      If you're serious about it all, here's what I'd do:

      Collect 50 or so keywords that you could rank for over a couple of days. Find "EASY" and "DOABLE" searches from SENuke.

      Analyse all of your competitors as explained above.

      Decide which niches will be easiest to target, and MOST PROFITABLE. Remember, Amazon affiliates works great too.

      Once you've picked some out, go for it.

      Never rush into it. Take your time and be 100% sure when you're buying a domain. It may only cost £5.99 to buy a domain, but it takes HOURS of effort building them up and ranking them.

      If you've spent 30hours ranking a site that will never rank, that's 30hours x minimum wage of £6. 30x6 = £150 lost.
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      • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
        Originally Posted by DNAWRealm View Post

        Go out and look for yourself. Search with intitle:keyword, check the #1, #2 and #3 backlinks profile. Check their pagerank. Check all their other content (is it related content?).

        Finding high-paying niches requires time and effort, and lots of it.

        If you're serious about it all, here's what I'd do:

        Collect 50 or so keywords that you could rank for over a couple of days. Find "EASY" and "DOABLE" searches from SENuke.

        Analyse all of your competitors as explained above.

        Decide which niches will be easiest to target, and MOST PROFITABLE. Remember, Amazon affiliates works great too.

        Once you've picked some out, go for it.

        Never rush into it. Take your time and be 100% sure when you're buying a domain. It may only cost £5.99 to buy a domain, but it takes HOURS of effort building them up and ranking them.

        If you've spent 30hours ranking a site that will never rank, that's 30hours x minimum wage of £6. 30x6 = £150 lost.
        Brilliant thank you. With SENuke how long is the free trial?
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        • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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          Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

          Brilliant thank you. With SENuke how long is the free trial?
          14days I believe.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by brienn View Post

            you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours
            Originally Posted by DNAWRealm View Post

            I advise getting SENuke. It's niche finder is pretty good for finding good niches that you can investigate further. It gives you a few results based on your niche search. If you get a few 'VERY EASY' searches, you can go and investigate further. When it reports "dont waste your time" or "HARD", you simply don't bother.

            You can get a SENuke trial which will help you find your first niche for free!
            I'm sorry, but both of these suggestions are horrible, wretched advice.

            First of all, the number of pages that shows up in the SERPs has NOTHING to do with how competitive a keyword is.

            Second, there is no tool that really analyzes competition well at all. SENuke uses the number of competing pages in the SERPs as part of its calculation for how difficult a keyword or niche is. So does Traffic Travis. The only one that comes fairly close is SEOmoz's keyword research tool, but even that I wouldn't strongly base anything off of.

            You need to do some manual work to analyze how competitive a keyword is. You need to study the top 3 ranking sites. That's it. Those are your competition. Number 4 on, barely get any traffic.
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            • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              I'm sorry, but both of these suggestions are horrible, wretched advice.

              First of all, the number of pages that shows up in the SERPs has NOTHING to do with how competitive a keyword is.

              Second, there is no tool that really analyzes competition well at all. SENuke uses the number of competing pages in the SERPs as part of its calculation for how difficult a keyword or niche is. So does Traffic Travis. The only one that comes fairly close is SEOmoz's keyword research tool, but even that I wouldn't strongly base anything off of.

              You need to do some manual work to analyze how competitive a keyword is. You need to study the top 3 ranking sites. That's it. Those are your competition. Number 4 on, barely get any traffic.
              Read my second post.

              I use SENuke as a starting point - never a finishing point.

              Thanks.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Originally Posted by DNAWRealm View Post

                Read my second post.

                I use SENuke as a starting point - never a finishing point.

                Thanks.
                Yeah, but by using it as a starting point, you might be missing out on some good opportunities that you never look deeper at.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    I use SEO quake to find the page rank (PR) of the sites that are on page 1. If the PR is 1 or less, I consider going for that particular niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Are .co domains any good?
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Are .co domains any good?
      Those are a pretty bad choice. Try and stick with .com, .net, and .org.
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    • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Are .co domains any good?
      They work equally as well as .com's because they are global domains. The harsh reality is though, people won't remember .co and will often type .com instead (that's if you have returning visitors).

      I'd stick with .com... Simply because .co is too similar.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Thanks, you guys are amazing. This is a scary step to make. And ive spent days on end trying to find a great niche and shall continue until I find one
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Ive just come across an EMD and its available its a .co and a great niche. Worth $3500 on epik. To buy or not to buy?

    Its a 2 word keyword. exact match gets 1332 daily searches. £8.55 per click

    Competition:

    1. PR3 - Alexa says 443 sites linking in - content is e-commerce only
    (then there are shopping results from google)
    2. PR5 -Very well known store for this type of product 2196 sites linking in - e-commerce
    3. PR2 -another well known overall department store 5800 sites linking in - e-commerce
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    Or second keyword would be a key-key-key .com domain
    487 daily searches (exact match) £3.68 per click

    Competition
    1. PR0 - 62 BACKLINKS - E-commerce and Ok content
    2. PR3 - Well known e-com site for this product 495 link ins
    3. PR3 - Chanel 4 website (which has one page relating to this type of product)
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    • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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      Originally Posted by Geekgirl01 View Post

      Or second keyword would be a key-key-key .com domain
      487 daily searches (exact match) £3.68 per click

      Competition
      1. PR0 - 62 BACKLINKS - E-commerce and Ok content
      2. PR3 - Well known e-com site for this product 495 link ins
      3. PR3 - Chanel 4 website (which has one page relating to this type of product)
      Hmm, seems like it could be doable. Are they just e-commerce sites with a small description and "BUY NOW" buttons?

      If so, you could probably outrank them if you do correct on-page SEO. Would require effort though.
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