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Question regarding self hosting

by soundofsilenc3
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Hey everyone. I'm new here on the boards. Came across this place doing some research last night. So I decided to make an account and contribute a question.

The question is to do with self hosting a blog page with your own domain. I'm already registered on an authority blog site and have to date done reasonably well with earnings and traffic as well as developing a followers base.

My main concern. I'm very opinionated, value freedom of choice, and don't quite like being mandated as to what I can and can not publish. Recently I've been thinking it may be a better idea over all to start a self hosting blog site, develop it, allow it to mature, and then market/advertise it accordingly.

Is this the norm for partaking in something like this? Should I be in the process of porting my most popular pieces on Blogger over to my own personal self hosted site? Or do I adapt those quality articles on Blogger into a bit of a lesser standard (even change them entirely but keep the same topic) and then link back to my main private URL ... for every article I have on Blogger?

I still plan on continuing to write on Blogger but I'm thinking the best case scenario is to let the two work together.

Any comments or feedback appreciated. Thanks guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamaks
    Hi, if there is a common thread throughout you blog posts then yes certainly you should be using your own domain and hosting them there.

    I would however be inclined to leave your previous posts intact and use all new content. Then when you post a new article you have the option of linking from one (or more) of your original high quality articles on a similar subject to the new posting.

    Diluting your original blogger articles may well and likely would lower their value as an inbound link which would be shooting yourself in the foot.

    It is perhaps more normal to create your own site first and then create linkable articles on sites like blogger to boost your SEO and in your circumstance you already have this resource available so you are well ahead of a complete new start.

    Select the most relevant domain available for your niche and go for it. Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
      Thanks for the great advice

      Do sites like Blogger, Squidoo, and similar authoritative blog websites allow a short link to be published on your blog entries? Or does this constitute 'driving traffic' and therefore break any Adsense or Blogsite TOS?

      So in essence, if I went back and edited my articles to include "For further details CLICK HERE' or something similar even stating "For more useful articles CLICK HERE' is this practice allowed?

      If I did this on every post, which ideally I would have to do because the content would match up completely to what I would be writing about on my private website. Is this breaching policy or simply link building?

      This is the only thing that confuses me because you have to 'drive traffic' to a certain extent in order to advertise. That's the whole point of advertising. If you don't 'drive traffic' you'll sit there in idle earning next to nothing based on how a pre-established website like Blogger chooses to rank and file you determined by what you write.

      As soon as you branch out on your own. You're on your own. You don't have the luxury of being advertised and as a result have to now market yourself.

      (As a final question just to clarify. If I took the identical Blogger posts and coped them to my independent site. Would this constitute 'duplicate content' or does that only apply if it the same content on the SAME domain not a DIFFERENT domain which would be the case here)

      Originally Posted by jamaks View Post

      Hi, if there is a common thread throughout you blog posts then yes certainly you should be using your own domain and hosting them there.

      I would however be inclined to leave your previous posts intact and use all new content. Then when you post a new article you have the option of linking from one (or more) of your original high quality articles on a similar subject to the new posting.

      Diluting your original blogger articles may well and likely would lower their value as an inbound link which would be shooting yourself in the foot.

      It is perhaps more normal to create your own site first and then create linkable articles on sites like blogger to boost your SEO and in your circumstance you already have this resource available so you are well ahead of a complete new start.

      Select the most relevant domain available for your niche and go for it. Jim
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  • Profile picture of the author imshazia
    Self hosting is better, it gives freedom in every aspect whether its designing, posting, advertising or SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamaks
    Hi, just to clarify the duplicate content rule applies wherever it is placed. I do not know if Google or anyone else has ever put a percentage value of how much of a page content would be considered as duplicating content but if such a figure exists I would doubt it is very high.
    Rewrite one of your own articles from memory and hopefully you will produce a very different but equally good version.
    Blogger effectively owns your content so using the exact article would not be a good idea, unfair as that may appear. In my opinion it has to be all new content to give any worthwhile results. Best of luck with it. Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
      Originally Posted by jamaks View Post

      Hi, just to clarify the duplicate content rule applies wherever it is placed. I do not know if Google or anyone else has ever put a percentage value of how much of a page content would be considered as duplicating content but if such a figure exists I would doubt it is very high.
      Rewrite one of your own articles from memory and hopefully you will produce a very different but equally good version.
      Blogger effectively owns your content so using the exact article would not be a good idea, unfair as that may appear. In my opinion it has to be all new content to give any worthwhile results. Best of luck with it. Jim
      Thanks so much

      So we've established porting or lessening the value of content to suit a linkback is a bad idea. It's best to start fresh. No issues there.

      Your response left me intrigue with a thought though. If I rewrite an article. Supposing I can only say the SAME main points about the article that I did when I originally published it on Blogger. But I rewrite it for my website with maybe different words or alternate sentence structure, yet the key points of the article still remain the same. Does this in itself display duplicate content?

      For example. Having written a tutorial on Blogger lets say. You can re write this and re word it but the main points, the steps in the article HAVE TO remain the same. Even if you phrase the steps differently. Is this an example of duplicating?

      Just wondering because I never thought of such a step and it kind of hit me when I read the reply. Thanks again for the help and best wishes
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      • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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        Originally Posted by soundofsilenc3 View Post

        Thanks so much

        So we've established porting or lessening the value of content to suit a linkback is a bad idea. It's best to start fresh. No issues there.

        Your response left me intrigue with a thought though. If I rewrite an article. Supposing I can only say the SAME main points about the article that I did when I originally published it on Blogger. But I rewrite it for my website with maybe different words or alternate sentence structure, yet the key points of the article still remain the same. Does this in itself display duplicate content?

        For example. Having written a tutorial on Blogger lets say. You can re write this and re word it but the main points, the steps in the article HAVE TO remain the same. Even if you phrase the steps differently. Is this an example of duplicating?

        Just wondering because I never thought of such a step and it kind of hit me when I read the reply. Thanks again for the help and best wishes
        Duplicate content is applied as a penalty when the same words are used to form a sentence.

        To have intercourse, you must position yourself on top of the woman.

        To engage in intercourse, you should firstly place yourself upon the female.

        The two things above are extremely close in nature, but most probably won't be considered duplicate content.
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        • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
          Originally Posted by DNAWRealm View Post

          Duplicate content is applied as a penalty when the same words are used to form a sentence.

          To have intercourse, you must position yourself on top of the woman.

          To engage in intercourse, you should firstly place yourself upon the female.

          The two things above are extremely close in nature, but most probably won't be considered duplicate content.
          Funny analogy.

          So using different words to describe the same thing is not duplicate content I'd gather. Rather close but technically not.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamaks
    Hi, you can write about the same subject and even target the same keywords with the proviso that you phrase your words differently. Altering the order of paragraphs or sentences would not be enough but the use of new terminology throughout would produce a new and original piece of work. Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
      Originally Posted by jamaks View Post

      Hi, you can write about the same subject and even target the same keywords with the proviso that you phrase your words differently. Altering the order of paragraphs or sentences would not be enough but the use of new terminology throughout would produce a new and original piece of work. Jim
      Excellent. Thanks so much. This clarifies perfectly. Thanks for everyone's great input.
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      • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
        I have a separate unrelated question which I figure I will post here to avoid having to start another thread.

        I've been reading up on a lot of auto pilot paypal methods to generate income recently. Some of them seem relatively straight forward, fast acting, and reasonable enough to actually expect results.

        Question is, is this illegal in any way? Or would you potentially face a Paypal ban by participating in something like this?

        One of the methods was basically increasing your youtube exposure by using a VPS server or a bunch of virtual machines installed to your local computer. Then registering on an exposure website. Which would keep driving exposure to your Youtube channel 24 hrs a day based on your configured setup and therefore generate income.

        Now, quite frankly I use Paypal and Adsense and I'm quite happy with them. To do something like this and get banned in my opinion wouldn't be worth it because you wouldn't get to cash out on the earning anyhow. If either Paypal or Adsense ban you officially, you no longer can make any 'earnings' at all. No paypal means no payment and no Adsense means you can't even start over again.

        Does anyone have any experience or feedback with such methods? I must admit some do sound quite promising. I mean the ease of setup and the fact that the method practically could work itself can be quite enticing. But can anyone comment as to the technicalities and formalities surrounding such techniques.

        My only other input. There is no real 'hacking' or illegal activity involved here. Your not penetrating or breaching servers, or hacking code in order to generate funds in your accounts. If anything this to me is more like 'smart betting' to me. If your going to use a service, then use it to the best of its ability. It's almost like card counting in comparison to hacking an ATM or breaching a slot machine. So from that stand point I don't see the harm in it. But it's best to be educated before attempting so I figured I'd make a post. And this seems like the best place to make the post so why not.

        Thanks again guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    If time travel exisited you would have gone back in time and started on a self hosted site ages ago! - you wouldnt want o move away from blogger now that you ahve some following, but what you could do, is make your own self hosted site, use the blogger posts as backlink material and direct all those current readers to your new site - but seeing as blogger is earning you something, you wont want to get rid of it either
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    • Profile picture of the author soundofsilenc3
      Oh I completely agree lol

      Mind you, if I could go back in time and I did that (starting on self hosting) I'd have to put more effort into promoting. But not only would I have made more, but those articles would be present on my own personal site which I guess would add to furthering the notoriety and prestige of what I would be trying to build upon.

      But yes. I agree with you. Keeping both is essential now. Because they can both help eachother in an equally beneficial manner.

      (Off topic: Does anyone have feedback in regards to the autopilot post above, I'm dying to be enlightened on that whole aspect of revenue online)

      Originally Posted by awj888 View Post

      If time travel exisited you would have gone back in time and started on a self hosted site ages ago! - you wouldnt want o move away from blogger now that you ahve some following, but what you could do, is make your own self hosted site, use the blogger posts as backlink material and direct all those current readers to your new site - but seeing as blogger is earning you something, you wont want to get rid of it either
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