Main Index Page of Client is Deindexed

by nik0 Banned
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All his inner pages are indexed, only his main page is deindexed. This is a site I haven't worked on myself yet btw. He told me he did 1500 BMR posts in the past.

Any idea what we can do to get his main page back?

SEOMoz isn't showing much links anymore, most blogs are obvious deleted and such but guess Google ain't forget, he also got a message for unnatural inbound links.

He already filed a reconsideration request and got an answer:



Dear site owner or webmaster of hxxp://site.com/,

We received a request from a site owner to reconsider hxxp://site.com/ for compliance with Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

We've reviewed your site and we believe that some or all of your pages still violate our quality guidelines.
In order to preserve the quality of our search engine, pages from hxxp://site.com/ may not appear or may not rank as highly in Google's search results, or may otherwise be considered to be less trustworthy than sites which follow the quality guidelines.

If you wish to be reconsidered again, please correct or remove all pages that are outside our quality guidelines. When such changes have been made, please visit

https://www.google.com/webmasters/to...deration?hl=en and resubmit your site for reconsideration.

If you have additional questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,

Google Search Quality Team
#client #deindexed #index #main #page
  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    If the main page is gone, its possible the rest will follow, I saw a similar thing happen for a client and Google was as usual, giving the same responce. The unnatural link warning didnt happen for them, they got a quality issues related one. You might find if its a large site to simply start from scratch is the best option, and stay away from blog networks. They might have gone a bit underground, but google catches on quick to manipulation.

    The client main index was taken down, other pages were stil there, about a month later it was all gone. We found that Google only considereing to re-index after the whole site was changed, new design, content, and a much more authoritative site. IF they are talking about quality guidelines, then check out the site in more detail and see whos interest it is trying to serve, if its not the customer or readers, then Google isnt going to help.

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    Its a business dilema: you can either try to get reindex and keep that penalty history, or start with a fresh site, new design on a new domain - and build up from there with a clean slate. Both take a lot of work
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    There really isn't enough information to go off of. I would take a close look at his backlinks, and use more than one backlink checker. You want to see if he still has existing links to his homepage in obvious bad neighborhoods.

    This is an obvious one, but I would also look for any crawl errors, noindex tags, that kind of stuff. Check the .htaccess file as well as robots.txt file.

    How long has it been since the homepage was deindexed?
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Thanks I'll pass it on to him, not sure how long the homepage is deindexed, I think quiet a few weeks cause he already got answer to his reconsideration request.

    I took a close look at the site and he had a whole bunch of footer links for internal pages so I advised him to remove those as it looked pretty spammy to me.

    His back link pattern doesn't look to unnatural though, I checked it. Although the message doesn't seem to be focused much on back links cause of this:

    "please correct or remove all pages that are outside our quality guidelines"
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I've had a few people ask for help after having pages deindexed, at least 5 different sites/people running a noindex tag. Usually an SEO plugin problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I've had a few people ask for help after having pages deindexed, at least 5 different sites/people running a noindex tag. Usually an SEO plugin problem.
      EDIT: Link removed
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    ^^Nik0, tell them to remove Adsense ads from any pages that are considered to be "violating the quality guidelines" or risk losing their Adsense account as well.

    It was almost 100% a manual review. Not much you can do really, this could be a timed penalty... they won't re-index you through GWT until links are gone and they obviously still see them. The site looks fine to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      ^^Nik0, tell them to remove Adsense ads from any pages that are considered to be "violating the quality guidelines" or risk losing their Adsense account as well.

      It was almost 100% a manual review. Not much you can do really, this could be a timed penalty... they won't re-index you through GWT until links are gone and they obviously still see them. The site looks fine to me.
      Thing is we have no idea which pages seem to be violating their guidelines, but I'll pass it on anyway.

      Doesn't seem to be about back links cause they said this:

      "please correct or remove all pages that are outside our quality guidelines"

      What a bunch of .... at Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Thing is we have no idea which pages seem to be violating their guidelines, but I'll pass it on anyway.

        Doesn't seem to be about back links cause they said this:

        "please correct or remove all pages that are outside our quality guidelines"

        What a bunch of .... at Google.
        Got to be backlinks that made them review the site. Page titles and meta keywords look a bit "stuffed" and don't make much sense, but I doubt that they care much about those. Everything else looks ok.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

          Got to be backlinks that made them review the site. Page titles and meta keywords look a bit "stuffed" and don't make much sense, but I doubt that they care much about those. Everything else looks ok.
          I didn't do it Haven't worked on this site yet
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          • Profile picture of the author paulgl
            I guess I'll be the first...

            No offense, but...

            If that's your client...um....shouldn't you stop
            taking clients? Maybe refund thus guy some money?

            Paul
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              I guess I'll be the first...

              No offense, but...

              If that's your client...um....shouldn't you stop
              taking clients? Maybe refund thus guy some money?

              Paul
              Hard to read he Paul, getting a few days older, perhaps you should go look for new glasses.
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            • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              I guess I'll be the first...

              No offense, but...

              If that's your client...um....shouldn't you stop
              taking clients? Maybe refund thus guy some money?

              Paul
              It sounds like the guy just got hired to fix this disaster. It doesn't sound like he created it. #JustSayin

              My advice is to tell him to blow it up and start over. BMR...ahh back when first page rankings were easier than a $2 ho. :p
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

                It sounds like the guy just got hired to fix this disaster. It doesn't sound like he created it. #JustSayin

                My advice is to tell him to blow it up and start over. BMR...ahh back when first page rankings were easier than a $2 ho. :p
                Thanks, actually this is a good client of mine, I work on many of his sites and we've booked great results.

                Then he came up with this deindexed site and asked me if I could take a look at it, I didn't see what was wrong with it so I told him I would start a thread here to get some more feedback on the problem.

                And no, I didn't charge a single cent for it as that would've been so wrong.
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                • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                  Hiring your "SEO" services, then coming to the WF for
                  "help," what kind of service does one actually give?

                  My biggest beef here. SEO experts (and I use that term loosely)
                  coming to the WF to solve their problems.

                  Before taking on a client, why not have your ducks in a row?
                  Are they paying you to go to the WF?

                  If you took their money, and at the same time said,
                  "Sure, I can help," when you have no idea how to help,
                  what's up with that?

                  I don't care about name calling. But SEO experts should be
                  just that. Or, don't take clients.

                  Paul
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

                    If you took their money, and at the same time said,
                    "Sure, I can help," when you have no idea how to help,
                    what's up with that?
                    What's up with what? I didn't take their money, I didn't say I had a solution, why are you making all this stuff up?

                    Are you still angry that I said you are a bitter old man that has nothing to offer to this forum?

                    The truth is hard man!
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                  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
                    Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

                    Hiring your "SEO" services, then coming to the WF for
                    "help," what kind of service does one actually give?

                    My biggest beef here. SEO experts (and I use that term loosely)
                    coming to the WF to solve their problems.

                    Before taking on a client, why not have your ducks in a row?
                    Are they paying you to go to the WF?

                    If you took their money, and at the same time said,
                    "Sure, I can help," when you have no idea how to help,
                    what's up with that?

                    I don't care about name calling. But SEO experts should be
                    just that. Or, don't take clients.

                    Paul
                    Touche. I'd hardly use WF to find answers anyway...direction maybe, but any "advice" on this board requires intense vetting and testing elsewhere.

                    I hate know-it-alls and one absolute certainty about SEO is that it is not an exact science. It could be, if Google would just open its doors and let everyone know, but yeah.

                    Oh and at least he isn't asking questions about PageRank, Meta Keywords or other annoyingly basic questions. lmao
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                    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

                      Touche. I'd hardly use WF to find answers anyway...direction maybe, but any "advice" on this board requires intense vetting and testing elsewhere.

                      I hate know-it-alls and one absolute certainty about SEO is that it is not an exact science. It could be, if Google would just open its doors and let everyone know, but yeah.

                      Oh and at least he isn't asking questions about PageRank, Meta Keywords or other annoyingly basic questions. lmao
                      At least he's not asking questions about....

                      Dude seriously, you know everything? What the hell is wrong with asking some other people to take a look at it. Especially if people like Yukon / Bnetwork / Mike Friedman and others respond, you think they are noobs?? The warrior forum has plenty of knowledgeable people that are prepared to help out when they can and SEO isn't the only business where people seek for advice else where when they can't solve it.
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  • I guess you need to do a in depth research from the scratch... I mean from the fundamentals!!
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