New EMD Algo Update and CTR Theme

by dannyl
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Hi,

I have 5 EMD small niche sites that have all been hit with this latest update. I'm just coming into the world of IM and about to start making an authority site so it's not the end of the world.

One thing I have noticed is that all 5 of my sites have been de-indexed all have ctr-theme. My friend has a few MNS sites using EMD which to be fair have less articles and the ones that are on there are of less quality yet his ranks haven't changed. The difference between us is he uses Heatmap theme.

Has anybody else noticed this patter ie EMD and CTR Theme causing the problem?
#algo #ctr #emd #theme #update
  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    The theme is irrelevant. The fact that they are EMD is the bigger problem for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeekSlash
      Mine were all using different genesis framework themes, including some that had to be paid for separately from the package, and have all been hit. This suggests strongly to me that it's absolutely nothing to do with theme and everything to do with site authority.

      Interesting looking at changes in results for many diverse keywords I think Google maybe have done the update is looking at the total authority to a domain, so even middle sized sites have taken a hit in comparison with larger ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author dannyl
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      The theme is irrelevant. The fact that they are EMD is the bigger problem for you.
      I accept the EMD is the main issue. My point of this post was to see if it was more than just a coincidence that my 5 sites using CTR lost their ranking and my friends 4 EMD sites using heatmap didnt.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

        I accept the EMD is the main issue. My point of this post was to see if it was more than just a coincidence that my 5 sites using CTR lost their ranking and my friends 4 EMD sites using heatmap didnt.
        I suspect (as does Yukon) that it may be relate to site size. Just a hunch at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    The algo change wasn't supposed to 'de-index' websites. Are you sure your website have been totally removed?
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    • Profile picture of the author dannyl
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      The algo change wasn't supposed to 'de-index' websites. Are you sure your website have been totally removed?
      Sorry not de-index just lost their ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
    Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

    Hi,

    I have 5 EMD small niche sites that have all been hit with this latest update. I'm just coming into the world of IM and about to start making an authority site so it's not the end of the world.

    One thing I have noticed is that all 5 of my sites have been de-indexed all have ctr-theme. My friend has a few MNS sites using EMD which to be fair have less articles and the ones that are on there are of less quality yet his ranks haven't changed. The difference between us is he uses Heatmap theme.

    Has anybody else noticed this patter ie EMD and CTR Theme causing the problem?
    Sod authority site`s why the hell would you want to build just `1` or `2` big sites and put all your eggs in one basket who knows what the next update will be targeting ?? Not a great idea ohh spending all that money building big `A` sites and along comes a sneeky update and wipes it out
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    • Profile picture of the author dannyl
      Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

      Sod authority site`s why the hell would you want to build just `1` or `2` big sites and put all your eggs in one basket who knows what the next update will be targeting ?? Not a great idea ohh spending all that money building big `A` sites and along comes a sneeky update and wipes it out
      So if big authority and MNS sites aren't recommended then what do we build?
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      • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
        Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

        So if big authority and MNS sites aren't recommended then what do we build?
        Sorry i really dont know any more i thought i was doing well i did everything google asked but my domains where all wrong this time what the hell

        Try to build something inbetween ?? god knows but big `authority` sites and focus all your effort onto `1` site does that even sound smart ?? No friggin way !!
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

        So if big authority and MNS sites aren't recommended then what do we build?
        Who said big authority sites aren't recommended? I've been recommending them for months and Google has been recommending them for years.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

      Sod authority site`s why the hell would you want to build just `1` or `2` big sites and put all your eggs in one basket who knows what the next update will be targeting ?? Not a great idea ohh spending all that money building big `A` sites and along comes a sneeky update and wipes it out

      Because 1 golden egg trumps 1,000 rotten eggs, lol.

      Seriously,

      Funny how people talk about eggs in a basket, then the only traffic they will ever have is SERP traffic.

      You want diversification, easy, multiple traffic sources per domain.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Because 1 golden egg trumps 1,000 rotten eggs, lol.

        Seriously,

        Funny how people talk about eggs in a basket, then the only traffic they will ever have is SERP traffic.

        You want diversification, easy, multiple traffic sources per domain.
        Yeah i have to agree with you i guess the `basket` is actually the traffic source and not the website
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    One of my guest post sites dropped to nowhere, it's a hypernated EMD that gets new content every week, it doesn't have many back links, and the content is actually pretty decent and 40+ pages. Oh well...

    Guess this update will be a hard one to figure out as it's definitely not only about EMD's.

    The 3 people that contacted me today that lost rankings and that did NOT have an EMD all used affiliate redirection scripts. Same like I said a month ago, the ones that use cloaking/masking/redirection stuff were always a lot harder to rank then the sites that didn't do that so I guess this update has a few more features that Matt didn't talk about.
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  • Profile picture of the author adsenseuser
    The EMD update has impacted sites with very shallow content. People with few keywords and banking on EMD have been impacted the most.
    Which version of the CTR Theme are you using?
    The latest CTR Theme version is 1.4.9 with Related Posts Features and social media integration makes the site look richer than the previous versions.
    I would recommend going through all your websites, revisit the content post EMD update and also upgrading the themes to latest versions.
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