How long does it take for SEO efforts to change rankings?

Well, then I am definitely not doing proper backlinking.

I'm having new videos posted with links to the site's various sections, got like 10 of them at least now. Some blogs, etc, and a new one today on Reddit. But it's looking like I'm just not doing this right? What do I need to be doing that I'm not?

I was just teasing you :/

Sorry you did not understand. I was not asking you to put all that on a public forum as to exactly what you did. I meant for you to P.M. that info.

You can take that off, by editing your post, if you wish. Or leave it if you don't care.

Questions:
- Can you change the header of your site?
- Can you contact past members?
- Would you be willing to poll them and for answers give them some kind of reward
or at least say we would like you to come back and try out our new _________?

I am retiring for the night. Will talk with you tomorrow.

Here are some suggestions:

I suggest you read the book Who Moved My Cheese?: An Amazing Way to Deal with Change in Your Work and in Your Life by Spencer Johnson and Kenneth Blanchard. You can get it at a bookstore or order it at Amazon.com It will help you with your mindset and the stress, which sounds like it is really getting to you.

This is the biggest problem - If interest is dying out and books are no longer being published, there is only so much you can do. You say that attrition is about 90% in your niche anyway, so the two together would certainly affect the people that continue on with your site.

Your present site is well backlinked on the internet from other similar sites and forums with warrior cat keywords, and traffic is reported as going up at Semrush.com.

Your new keywords don't have enough links pointing back to the site. Can you get more backlinks from forums for your new keywords? ( there is another problem I will mention below).

Side note: It looks like a cat site, so I don't think it portrays the whole roleplaying theme you want.

Your new site would be a great new start, And you would be able to get it established for more roleplay keywords. Many of these are only medium competition. It won't be that hard. You have not done enough backlinking and marketing to establish it on the internet and in peoples minds yet.

It sounds like you have spent your money on programming, not getting backlinks through a search engine optimization company. You say you don't mind doing the work if you know what to do.

One think I can suggest is that you subscribe to Onlywire.com and signup for the bookmarking sites and bookmark each section. I don't do more than 25 of the good bookmark sites at a time.

Before you do that, you have got to have better onsite Search engine optimization. You don't really have any and it is holding you back. It is what lets the search engine bots know what your site is about.

I don't see any H tags. This is the headline, with a keyword or two included. <H></H>tags, placed in the html. So your first paragraph "WCRPG is a play by post roleplay site..." needs to have a headline within those tags, and before the paragraph, that is appropriate for each section or page. Google "how to use h tags". You can use more than one H tag on a page.

The meta name "keywords" could be better researched and used as well, for each page.

Run both sites and reach more audience.

This is where a poll may come in handy. Your traffic is going up, so why are your sign ups not going up. Find out what is going on with out assuming.

Part of it on the old site, is the whole theme does not fit where you want to take the site now. It may be turning people off.


Social networking is going to be a good bet for getting people to come to your site. The other thing is if you can actually put something in front of people at the other roleplaying sites and siphon off of them.

As well, you probably do, but keep in contact with everyone, whether they are a current member or not. If they don't want to hear from you they will unsubscribe. Till then, you have their permission to be in contact.

That is it for now. For your new site, go through all you did for your old site in the way of exchanging links, twitter feed, mentioning it on facebook, etc. As well as the bookmarks

Jeannie

Oh, I made it public since it didn't work anyway. People want to steal those secrets, well, I hope they're ready to watch their sites shrivel up. I'm not here to hide my SEO gold, I have none to hide. I wouldn't be here if I did, lol.

I'm willing to change my site's header. I have abbreviated the name in the past--to just WCRPG and put other slogans like "Roleplay for All" and stuff. {That didn't work either.}

I've spoken to members past and present and found out what made them all stay: finding someone else on the site who became a special friend. Heartwarming, eh? The non heartwarming part: only around 10% of members who sign up stay. The other 90% don't find a friend. We have tried a lot of different approaches to help with this, including mass emails {which reached past members} none to date have worked.

I discuss that in more detail in my other thread, in Marketing main board. You can find it here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7115880

Manishak: I am ready to be as aggressive as I need to be--no point in bringing a knife to a gun fight. I can either do what I have to do to save my site, or not bother. I say bring it on. I'm ready to run the race, just don't know where the trail is so I'm standing still.

It's a forum/social network; what do I do to improve content on those. I already am adding artwork and new features to it. I could list what I've added this year if it would help you guys give me better advice.

On waiting: It's been almost a year already. So waiting a little longer won't kill me.

I don't care about PR, I just need more people to see the site who are in other genres besides Warriors. It's been well over a couple weeks and there is no traffic improvement at all.

It takes between a few days and 6-7 weeks since Google launched their new patent of delaying things, although they only filed it quite recently it has been like that for a few months now.

Hey Groovystar, you are welcome.

Even if you changed the Header picture sequence out to a static Header with just a headline and then a subheadline about Roleplaying without emphasizing the cat warriors. My guess is as you think, they are not finding what they are looking for when they come. Who wants to roleplay a wolf, and comes to a site apparently about cats?

And you must do the on site search engine optimization if you want to attract search engine bots and being crawled. It will help your visitors to know that they are on the right page and it is what they want on that page.

Can you get to the HTML? You would just place the roleplaying headline at the beginning of the paragraph in an <H1> tag.

Then for the poll, you need an exit popup set up. You can google "what to ask in a poll when visitor leaves without signing up" or something similar for some ideas. Look through the first two pages for ideas and what might apply.

You would run two sites. You can create a new twitter, but you cannot create a new facebook. But you can certainly run both by your current people.

Do any of the other RPing sites allow banner advertisements, sell solo ads or would make announcements? Do any of them have adwords running on their sites? If so, you advertise through adwords targeting their site.

Yes, time to act, while you have more traffic.

You know, as far as what would work for skins, etc. Check out other RPing similar sites on the first page of Google. Do something similar, rather than come up with something totally off the top of your head. If they have had it for a while, it is probably working out ok for them.

I can take a look at it, but have not dealt with a game site up till now, so I may not be the best one to ask.

We are definitely building backlinks, most of them too new to show effect probably but for some there should've been some signs. Now I find traffic is up, but signups are not, so the thing I am going to do is a redo of the layout. Not totally changing it but adjusting it overall. It's due for a new skin anyway.

Thank you guys, so much.

You current layout gives the indication that there are a number of role playing models they can choose from. It is better than just cat pictures.

Just give the new layout a try for a few days and get a poll going. Ask what they were looking for, did they find it, what would they like to see that you did not have, etc. See the post I had about poll taking above.

How much of your hits that is being counted might be bots? Something I did not ask before.

This was in answer to me about doing a poll. And the other part is that I did research and told you about not having any onsite seo. You approach it that seo is a myth and won't help you at all. So there is nothing I can do to help you.

Excellent and clever On Page/Off Page SEO. By off page, I am taking more about high PR contextual backlinks... WITHOUT FAIL, I always see results fast.

You have a terrible and failure mindset... fix that first or no one can help you... :p

but to answer your question, by owning or renting them.

and those youtube backlinks are no follow, so they wont help increase your rankings on Google. they only help add diversity to your backlinking portfolio.