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Hi all..



Thinking of starting a new website in the UK.



Some NUMPTY in New York has bought the URL I want (I call him a numpty because its clearly out of greed as the URL directs to a "not found" page).



Anyways, my other option is the URL with hyphen separating the words - which is available and the next best thing.



Will the hyphenated URL have negative or positive SEO / SEM effects?



Thanks
#hyphens #urls
  • Profile picture of the author ronnieavelino
    Originally Posted by sunnyp81 View Post

    Hi all..



    Thinking of starting a new website in the UK.



    Some NUMPTY in New York has bought the URL I want (I call him a numpty because its clearly out of greed as the URL directs to a "not found" page).



    Anyways, my other option is the URL with hyphen separating the words - which is available and the next best thing.



    Will the hyphenated URL have negative or positive SEO / SEM effects?



    Thanks
    I think there is no negative SEO effects on it. Just make sure that you must create a quality website in your domain. Quality Contents and Quality Backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    No hyphens is better, but it wont really matter much after the latest EMD update. Its better to just get a brand-able domain name and build EMU pages on it.

    Works great for rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      No hyphens is better, but it wont really matter much after the latest EMD update. Its better to just get a brand-able domain name and build EMU pages on it.

      Works great for rankings.
      Shannon:
      I agree with you. Unless it is a brand name it no longer makes sense to purchase keyword loaded domain names.

      BTW, do you think tools like GS SER still make sense post-Penguin. If yes how could one use them without awakening Penguin.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by jfambrini View Post

        Shannon:
        I agree with you. Unless it is a brand name it no longer makes sense to purchase keyword loaded domain names.

        BTW, do you think tools like GS SER still make sense post-Penguin. If yes how could one use them without awakening Penguin.
        In my experience anything Automated to your money site is just a mistake. Build a tier system and put auto feeds to the buffer sites, link quality links to your money site.

        Your rankings will rise.
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        • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
          Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

          In my experience anything Automated to your money site is just a mistake. Build a tier system and put auto feeds to the buffer sites, link quality links to your money site.

          Your rankings will rise.
          Thanks for the feedback. I have learned a lot from your posts and respect your opinion. Why are so many people then so excited about GSA SER? It has many options: blog comment, Directory, Document Sharing, Foru, Guestbook, Image Comment, INdexer, Pingback, Referrer, Social Bookwork, Social Network, Trackback, Video and Web 2.0. Which of these should be directed at lower tiers and which ones to money site if any.
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          • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
            Originally Posted by jfambrini View Post

            Thanks for the feedback. I have learned a lot from your posts and respect your opinion. Why are so many people then so excited about GSA SER? It has many options: blog comment, Directory, Document Sharing, Foru, Guestbook, Image Comment, INdexer, Pingback, Referrer, Social Bookwork, Social Network, Trackback, Video and Web 2.0. Which of these should be directed at lower tiers and which ones to money site if any.
            People are excited because they do not know what they are doing.

            Those spam links should never be used but if you are going to ALL should be pointed at tier sites not your money site.
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  • Profile picture of the author dropmining
    Hyphenated domains correlate to high search engine ranking to a much lesser degree than their non-hyphenated counterparts. This may only be a correlation, but it is the best indication of how they are treated by Google and users that we have. I would recommend trying the acquire the non-hyphenated version, or looking for a more brand oriented domain, failing both these go for the hyphenated version.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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    Originally Posted by sunnyp81 View Post

    Hi all..



    Thinking of starting a new website in the UK.



    Some NUMPTY in New York has bought the URL I want (I call him a numpty because its clearly out of greed as the URL directs to a "not found" page).



    Anyways, my other option is the URL with hyphen separating the words - which is available and the next best thing.



    Will the hyphenated URL have negative or positive SEO / SEM effects?



    Thanks
    hyphens don't have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on seo. Google is more interested in whats on your site, just keep it to a maximum of 2 hyphens and you should be good to go. I have many sites with hyphens and they are doing just fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author RajSrivastav
      Google will considers URL with Hyphen as separate keywords. for ex. you have a website called domain1-domain2 dot com. Search engine will consider domain1 as separate and Domain2 separate keywords. If you use _ in url, It has no effect on Google. Google will consider domain1domain2 as single domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author aadi144
    Originally Posted by sunnyp81 View Post

    Hi all..



    Thinking of starting a new website in the UK.



    Some NUMPTY in New York has bought the URL I want (I call him a numpty because its clearly out of greed as the URL directs to a "not found" page).



    Anyways, my other option is the URL with hyphen separating the words - which is available and the next best thing.



    Will the hyphenated URL have negative or positive SEO / SEM effects?



    Thanks
    There is no Problem in using Hyphen in your URL.And its not going to affect your SEO work.Just build quality backlinks and post unique content on your site that's all you have to take care of.
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  • Profile picture of the author kammy19
    I think you should not add hyphens,,,
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  • Profile picture of the author K Mec
    Do you mean domain names?
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexSuwarna
    You should not add hyphens because Mostly User does not prefer hyphens in domain names and other things Loss traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author namesbeyond
    Originally Posted by sunnyp81 View Post

    Hi all..



    Thinking of starting a new website in the UK.



    Some NUMPTY in New York has bought the URL I want (I call him a numpty because its clearly out of greed as the URL directs to a "not found" page).



    Anyways, my other option is the URL with hyphen separating the words - which is available and the next best thing.



    Will the hyphenated URL have negative or positive SEO / SEM effects?



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    It's always better to choose a domain name without hyphens as it will be difficult for user's to remember such domains
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnRaja
    Hyphen within domain names are not of much value in search engines especially in Google.. It is always advisable to have domain without any hyphens....
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mansfield
    It's interesting that most of the world's most successful brands are single words. Whilst in theory online you may never even enter the name of the company - single words will always be more powerful.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayWiz
    There is no effect using hypen in domain name, i read this case study somewhere, in the case study he tested using hypen and it beat the non-hypen domain name, so it all comes to your content and SEO effort. The best way to do it is to test it yourself, you will learns a lot of things in the road.
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  • Hyphens may not affect you negatively when it comes to SEO / SEM but they may affect you negatively when it comes to branding. If you are planning to build a large authority site with good branding, I wouldn't go with hyphens in the domain name.

    Let's say you have a popular site that people will frequently want to come back to. They don't bookmark the site, but they have it roughly in their memory.

    The next time the try to visit the domain based on memory, they will likely visit the non-hyphenated version of the URL. And they might never be able to find the site again...

    Well, just some thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author walia072
    One use hyphens, hyphen taken as space by search engine, so one can use - without any tension, it will provide advantage in SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Anyone who says hyphens should be avoided....is nuts. Period.

      People (not everyone here) are mixed up on domains and urls.
      A domain is not a url.

      You do want hyphens in your urls, if needed. Same with domains
      if that's what you are going for.

      In fact, you want hyphens in a domain name, especially in
      cases where words slur together, or you get unintended
      letters in a row that spell words that some people block.
      Like the letters s e x. s h i t. etc.

      Domains with repeated letters, side by side, to end and
      begin words, like besttshirts, scream for hyphens.

      Type in traffic is not an issue anymore. 10 years ago, when
      it was, I remember many sites skipping a letter for fear
      people would not type the two letters back to back.

      Sometimes I think there are some pretty good bots that
      just post nonsense replies here.

      Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Anyone who says hyphens should be avoided....is nuts. Period.

      People (not everyone here) are mixed up on domains and urls.
      A domain is not a url.

      You do want hyphens in your urls, if needed. Same with domains
      if that's what you are going for.

      In fact, you want hyphens in a domain name, especially in
      cases where words slur together, or you get unintended
      letters in a row that spell words that some people block.
      Like the letters s e x. s h i t. etc.

      Domains with repeated letters, side by side, to end and
      begin words, like besttshirts, scream for hyphens.

      Type in traffic is not an issue anymore. 10 years ago, when
      it was, I remember many sites skipping a letter for fear
      people would not type the two letters back to back.

      Sometimes I think there are some pretty good bots that
      just post nonsense replies here.

      Paul
      Originally Posted by jenniferrichard View Post

      if we use domain name without hyphen it will be better for crawling.
      Guys..... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author GobBluthJD
    There's no negative seo effect with hyphens, it's just not as memorable for customers and can become a bit more difficult to market.
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