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  • Profile picture of the author karismasand
    I confirm that is a major PR update.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Originally Posted by xMizzlex View Post

    Like the title says. Check your sites.
    Hey, my inbox is full. Just keep building. 15 is too small. It's the Google Dance. Just build.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahendra1270
    Yes I too observed it.
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  • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
    I am a little confused on this post, are you saying that they updated the pr of websites?
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  • Profile picture of the author xMizzlex
    The updated pagerank of your website is now found on your toolbar.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    For what it's worth, I moved my site to a new domain name and put in 301 redirects from the old domain.

    The new domain now has PR3, which is what the old domain had.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
    Yep, there is one today!
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  • Profile picture of the author kimseo
    Me too, I haven't notice any change
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    Only two of my sites have changed and they didn't move much. Otherwise my network is still going strong and passed the google update (as expected).
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Yes for sure there has been. I see stable PR on most sites and excellent PR on my new ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author grexley
    So I have a site that is PR2 with a good variety of natural backlinks. I wanted to increase its PR, so I paid for a PR5 link on a legitimate, real site with real traffic and with good backlinks, and <10 OBL. However, after this update, my site is still PR2. I was expecting at least a jump to PR3. The page I bought the link from is still ranked PR5 with a high DA score as well.

    Any thoughts as to why I saw no movement?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by grexley View Post

      So I have a site that is PR2 with a good variety of natural backlinks. I wanted to increase its PR, so I paid for a PR5 link on a legitimate, real site with real traffic and with good backlinks, and <10 OBL. However, after this update, my site is still PR2. I was expecting at least a jump to PR3. The page I bought the link from is still ranked PR5 with a high DA score as well.

      Any thoughts as to why I saw no movement?
      The toolbar PR lags behind the actual PR by a few months. What we are seeing is actually what the PR was 2-3 months ago or so. If you just bought the link recently, you won't see any change reflected on your site from that link until the next update.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        The toolbar PR lags behind the actual PR by a few months. What we are seeing is actually what the PR was 2-3 months ago or so. If you just bought the link recently, you won't see any change reflected on your site from that link until the next update.
        Yep but its more like four months. Just finished a case study with this PR update and will publish it later. Learned a lot of good stuff. Will even publish one of my domains to show some things (yep removed all links because doing that will make that domain toast).

        Anyway Google is rather deliberately not giving up to date PR results in their tool bar. I actually switched around links to get better results and in the process made at least one site worse when it would be a PR4 now (of course it really is but that won't show until the next update.)

        So like you said to everyone claiming how their site held up or didn't it has nothing to do with anything really - the tool bar update today is based on data from months ago maybe in some cases even as much as 6 months ago.

        I had a site turn to PR6 this update (from a PR5) and there is not a single new link to it from the last update.
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    • Profile picture of the author unikbit
      my client gone from 3 to 4

      Originally Posted by grexley View Post

      So I have a site that is PR2 with a good variety of natural backlinks. I wanted to increase its PR, so I paid for a PR5 link on a legitimate, real site with real traffic and with good backlinks, and <10 OBL. However, after this update, my site is still PR2. I was expecting at least a jump to PR3. The page I bought the link from is still ranked PR5 with a high DA score as well.

      Any thoughts as to why I saw no movement?
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      • Profile picture of the author cwill184
        Not seen any change on my sites. What tool does everyone use to check PR. I use Alexa toolbar but don't know how quick this updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Sounds like most of you are only checking the Index page on your sites. I have an old site that I don't really mess with anymore, Index page is a PR1, with about a dozen PR4 internal pages. Just saying, PR is at page level.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    Indeed, Yukon, some of my best increases have been on inner pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I got a PR 4 for a domain registered on 10/1/2012. For that site, obviously, this PR update was not based on data from months ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      I got a PR 4 for a domain registered on 10/1/2012. For that site, obviously, this PR update was not based on data from months ago.
      Sure could if it has a redirect on it or it had existing links. Many many sites people think they are registering for the first time were in fact registered before. We have seen examples of it in this very forum before.
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      • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Sure could if it has a redirect on it or it had existing links. Many many sites people think they are registering for the first time were in fact registered before. We have seen examples of it in this very forum before.
        It's a completely unique domain name I made up. Wayback Machine shows it was never archived and it's an unlikely combination of letters. (I explained this in one thread I like unique domains like that use "double Os", something like "TROOTR.com."

        Not only does the home page have a PR 4, but the categories are 3 and so are the "about type" pages. Not only that, but several posts are PR 2.

        I also created a subdomain at WordPress.com on 10/13/2012 that is now a PR 3 and has a PR 2 blog post.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

          Not only does the home page have a PR 4, but the categories are 3 and so are the "about type" pages. Not only that, but several posts are PR 2.

          To get that on all those pages it would have had to be a very good link or links you got in that short period of time but anyway claims are a dime a dozen (especially on this board). I will publish the report with the actual domains that prove my point and to any reasonable person they will see that the update is months behind. No need for me to argue about it when I have ton loads of proof that I will show. Perhaps in some isolated cases Google updates sooner who knows? but the evidence is in and it says that the PR update is generally well behind what is the real PR months before.
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          • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            To get that on all those pages it would have had to be a very good link or links you got in that short period of time but anyway claims are a dime a dozen (especially on this board). I will publish the report with the actual domains that prove my point and to any reasonable person they will see that the update is months behind. No need for me to argue about it when I have ton loads of proof that I will show. Perhaps in some isolated cases Google updates sooner but the evidence is in and it says that the PR update is generally well behind what is the real PR months before.
            There really is no need to argue about it. I know what I'm looking at, and obviously I placed PR-bearing links to the domains in question.

            I could settle this 'argument' by posting the domains in question, but really, why would I?

            Besides, I said 'with these domains' because only these two reacted this way. 3 other WordPresses that were linked in the same basic manner show "N/A" and a couple other are 0s. So, for the most part I agree the data is behind.

            So now I'm working on figuring out exactly what was so special about these domains (or the backlinks) so I can replicated this again.

            I removed a few PR 5 links to another "OO" .com I had and that domain stayed at 4, indicating the data is stale. I have quite a few experiments going on, as PageRank is a subject that has fascinated me since 2002.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

              I could settle this 'argument' by posting the domains in question, but really, why would I?
              Real education? Confirmable evidence beyond hearsay? but yeah I know I wouldn't have been publishing any myself if I had not been doing a study I intended to release and I wouldn't be showing a PR4 either.

              So now I'm working on figuring out exactly what was so special about these domains (or the backlinks) so I can replicated this again.
              Well the wordpress one I dunno ...guess google could have different rules for PR9 domains. Might want to look at that. I've never really worried about duplicating PR results until I had customers that didn't care about links just wanted to see Pr (and I have a few of those since that is what they bought). The fact is in real terms you make Pr pages the very moment a new link from a pR page is recrawled so since the whole idea is ranking no need to fuss over PR if thats all you are doing (for buying selling and building PR it makes a difference)


              I removed a few PR 5 links to another "OO" .com I had and that domain stayed at 4, indicating the data is stale.
              Yep...I'll be showing a bunch of PR domains that have lost just about all their links and still showing what they did before the update. Thats why I said the evidence is in and pretty clear.

              P.S. Wayback machine doesn't show a ton load of sites that have actually been registered before. If you really want to know if a domain has been registered before recently you need a historical whois report ?(not the regular whois report).
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  • Profile picture of the author georgescifo
    Originally Posted by xMizzlex View Post

    Like the title says. Check your sites.
    No PR changes for any of my websites...
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  • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
    Why is PR so important?
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    No PR changes. If anything N/A to 0 =D.

    Traffic is still the same though.
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  • Profile picture of the author abhigoogle
    No PR change here. Did so many high quality guest posts on big websites! Phew..now disappointed, seriously !!
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  • Profile picture of the author sadeeshbala
    Yes i got PR1 for my website
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineblogger2
    I got pr 2 in my 2 month old blog. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
    just checked ! WTF!!!!!!!!! i cant believe this !!! Got PR5 for my 6 week old site!!!

    My old one is still at PR4


    Edit: There are about 30 Pages of that site, all got PR 4!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikez
    Me too! 0 to PR2!
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  • Profile picture of the author speedakias
    3 months old website from pr0 to pr2. Nice!
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  • Profile picture of the author pusan
    One of my site got page rank 1 but no improvement for others.

    Although these days I am more concerned with ranking for my keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author anjaneyulu
    Yeah today.....i observed my 140 sites got pr 2 and pr 1 for all....Expected pr 3 for my all sites... but google given only pr 1 and pr 2 for all my sites.... i hope this is minor update... but not sure...
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        • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
          Originally Posted by chrisyboy View Post

          Which means the pr update has probably not touched my 10 sites....probably a good sign I hope:-)
          Yes, most of my sites didn't change too. But PR pf many websites changed.
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  • Profile picture of the author igl0w
    There is always some rankings mangle along with PR changes
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  • Profile picture of the author phuongle
    Dont care about PR, focus on TRUSR RANK
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    • Profile picture of the author kia2012
      How often do these updates happen...?
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