high pr network hosting without footprint

11 years ago

Originally Posted by london710

hi i have bought 3 high pr domains with godaddy that i want to link to 1 money site only that i am already hosting with namecheap.

now i need hosting for these 3 domains and dont want to leave any footprint

for reading a bit it sounds like i need a separate c-class ip for each domain, so they cant be on the same shared plan, i assume.

question: whatt would be the best option costwise and for safety: to sign up for 3 separate hosting accounts with godaddy,namecheap or hostgator (or similar) for 3.95 or so per month?

or to use a "seo hosting" company like this: Shared SEO Hosting ? Shared IP Hosting, SEO IP Hosting which claim to offer 5 different class c ip addresses for 9.95 per month? is SEOhosting.com better?

or use "cloud hosting" (which i am unfamiliar with.. is it cost effective??)

are separate c class ips even necessary or a "myth"? (i say better safe than sorry).

is it a must to hide your domain whois information?

thanks, i hope someone knowledgable can weigh in. better safe than sorry.. i need to do this right

You're paying a premium price or "tax" on extra IP addresses because of their class. 95% of the IP's we issue with SSL certs are classified a C. The class does not matter.

The so called "seo pro's" will be here soon to feed you the bs they were once fed as well.

you're better off just getting a few cheap plans at different providers rather paying ridiculous prices for IP's.

Brent Oxley, the previous owner of SEOHosting.com/HostGator.com has NEVER stated, once that the class of an IP does anything.

95% of the SEO junk you'll find is pure speculation by so called "experts" that read someone elses blog post.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

You can find cheap shared hosting services for around $3/month if you look around. You will usually have to pay for at least a year upfront though.

Fatcow, iPage, Webhosting Buzz, StableHost, and Webhosting Hub are some hosts that I have used.

SEO hosting is being actively targeted by Google. Nobody uses SEO hosting other than someone looking to host a network cheaply.

And SEO hosting is a horrible name for it anyhow. It provides zero SEO benefit. Should be called separate IP hosting or something like that.

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kickmoney

11 years ago

Exactly. I can get extra IP's on my VPN for $1 a month. Never crossed my mind to use them for an "seo network".

OP think about what you're doing. Is it a waste of time and energy and potentially dangerous to your website? probably yes.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by kickmoney

Exactly. I can get extra IP's on my VPN for $1 a month. Never crossed my mind to use them for an "seo network".

OP think about what you're doing. Is it a waste of time and energy and potentially dangerous to your website? probably yes.

Dude seriously you are posting on a lot of threads where you don't understand what is being discussed. For the purpose of a network you want separate class C IPs not just extra IPS. When you add IPs to your VPS You are not guaranteed to get separate Class C Ips. There is nothing dangerous about hosting sites on separate Class C Ips

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Kingfish85

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Dude seriously you are posting on a lot of threads where you don't understand what is being discussed. For the purpose of a network you want separate class C IPs not just extra IPS. When you add IPs to your VPS You are not guaranteed to get separate Class C Ips. There is nothing dangerous about hosting sites on separate Class C Ips

I'm not going against your post, but most people don't even realize 80% of the IP's being issued anywhere anymore are already classified as class C. The class of the IP has NOTHING to do with anything. The only thing a class does is classifies how many nodes/hosts can be assigned to said network.

Also, 9 times out of 10, that SEO company is going to give you a bunch of IP's that are on the same / block, which can be dangerous. Google/Yahoo/Bing etc are not stupid.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

I'm not going against your post, but most people don't even realize 80% of the IP's being issued anywhere anymore are already classified as class C. The class of the IP has NOTHING to do with anything.

Sorry you too do not understand the issue. Beyond the Class C tends to be on the same server. I have too much experience on this to argue about it. IF you order a VPS and ask for additional Ips the tendency is to not get Class C IPs.

Also, 9 times out of 10, that SEO company is going to give you a bunch of IP's that are on the same / block, which can be dangerous. Google/Yahoo/Bing etc are not stupid.

Like MIke F I do not use SEO hosts not because they put everything on the same block but because most often you are sharing an IP with other networks. they get slapped then the experience has been Google has looked at everything on that IP. Better and in many cases cheaper to go for varied shared sellers even across multiple Geo locations

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Kingfish85

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Sorry you too do not understand the issue. Beyond the Class C tends to be on the same server. I have too much experience on this to argue about it. IF you order a VPS and ask for additional Ips the tendency is to not get Class C IPs

I did not say about them being on the same server - I said same block which can span across multiple servers. I also said the class of the IP has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Again you don't know what you are talking about. SEO hosts I have dealt with will give you a range that are not on the same block. Theres no 9 out of 10. You may be in the hosting niche but you can't speak for SEO hosts that you do not know about. That said Like MIke F I do not use SEO hosts not because they put everything on the same block but because most often you are sharing an IP with other networks. they get slapped then the experience has been Google has looked at everything on that IP. Better and in many cases cheaper to go for varied shared sellers even across multiple Geo locations

Better and in many cases cheaper to go for varied shared sellers even across multiple Geo locations

^This is exactly what I said.

You're right. You are the end-all be all of the IP gods. I'm not arguing the fact that different IP's could help or that having them in different geo locations can help. I'm arguing the fact that the price hike on an ordinary IP is nothing more than a "stupid" tax. The same goes for a class C, it's no different than a class a or b other than the number of hosts it can have.

At the end of the day, I think on some level we are saying the same thing, maybe.

My main argument is that the class of the IP has nothing to do with anything. When purchasing "SEO" hosting, the blocks may be different, but if they were issued to the same provider, the swip info is IDENTICAL across the blocks. They also go through the same edge routers & pipes to get to the servers. Run a trace on your blocks and see the common points they travel through.

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kickmoney

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Dude seriously you are posting on a lot of threads where you don't understand what is being discussed. For the purpose of a network you want separate class C IPs not just extra IPS. When you add IPs to your VPS You are not guaranteed to get separate Class C Ips. There is nothing dangerous about hosting sites on separate Class C Ips

Oh make way for the Quan of search engine juju ya'll.

I said probably. In my opinion actively building links in this fashion is a bad business strategy regardless of how you spin it. And also a waste of time, money & energy.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by kickmoney

In my opinion actively building links in this fashion is a bad business strategy regardless of how you spin it. And also a waste of time, money & energy.

Your opinion means nothing. the ranking experience of countless SEOs that build links from properties they either own or buy links from contradicts you with overwhelming evidence.

Originally Posted by kickmoney

Oh make way for the Quan of search engine juju ya'll..

LOL Every now and again there is some noob that doesn't even know what Quan of SEO means (or the thread that it originated from as a joke) but objects to the title like its a claim to being a Guru or expert. Pretty funny

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kickmoney

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Your opinion means nothing. the ranking experience of countless SEOWitchDoctors that sell links from properties they either own or buy links from contradicts you with overwhelming evidence.

Nice strawman. You know nothing about my online interests or experiences.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

LOL Every now and again there is some noob that doesn't even know what Quan of SEO means (or the thread that it originated from as a joke) but objects to the title like its a claim to being a Guru or expert. Pretty funny

Cool "war story" bro.

The backbone of your "business" is warriorforum street cred.
Ho Humming around like the village witch-doctor.

You're product/service is intangible and worthless.

You're a joke.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

For the purpose of a network you want separate class C IPs not just extra IPS.

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

I also said the class of the IP has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

At the end of the day, I think on some level we are saying the same thing, maybe.

LOL.

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by kickmoney

experience of countless SEOWitchDoctors .

LOL Kick you are becoming like Warock was (if you ask nicely maybe they will give you the username or maybe you can get the avatar picture). Perhaps you are trying to fill the void now that he/she is gone. I can't find a single meaningful post from you anywhere. Just lots of poor advice.
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gearmonkey

11 years ago

just find different hosting companies to host each blog on. Also make sure you set your domains to private.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Don't you think it leaves a footprint when having 100 links from only different C-classes:

202.115.1.x
202.115.2.x
202.115.3.x
202.115.4.x
202.116.5.x
202.116.6.x
202.116.7.x
etc

Would be dead easy for the search engines to recognize as manipulation wouldn't it?

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Don't you think it leaves a footprint when having 100 links from only different C-classes:

202.115.1.x
202.115.2.x
202.115.3.x
202.115.4.x
202.116.5.x
202.116.6.x
202.116.7.x
etc

Would be dead easy for the search engines to recognize as manipulation wouldn't it?

IF you order from multiple shared providers you do not get just Different Class Cs. Plus an extra benefit is you get sites from various Geo locations that can help you in regional searches. Doing it that way I have domain presence in the UK, Australia, Germany, Asia, Canada etc

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Thought you guys were referring to C-class SEO hosting.

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london710

11 years ago

thank you for all the replys! i really appreciate it

i will probably buy a different hostpackage for each domain. then later down the road, (if this backlinking tactic works..) i can then add more domains to the same package, and then direct links to other money sites.

a few other questions to u high pr veterans:

i picked up a pr3 domain for cheap that still has more than 800 urls indexed using site:domain in google. atleast 25 of these internal pages are also pr3. They are all calender pages ("this weeks' events" kind of pages).

question: how do i best take advantage of that? (the previous content is unrelated to my niche)

1) should i recreate the pages with the exact content from the google cache, then add a footer link?
2) do i recreate the pages but add a section with relevant content to my money site, then insert a link there?
3) recreate the urls but add completely new content and new titles and add a link?
4) do a 301 redirect to the home page from all these pages?

thoughts?

thanks again warriors!

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TotalGaz

11 years ago

What did you end up doing for these questions?

Originally Posted by london710

question: how do i best take advantage of that? (the previous content is unrelated to my niche)

1) should i recreate the pages with the exact content from the google cache, then add a footer link?
2) do i recreate the pages but add a section with relevant content to my money site, then insert a link there?
3) recreate the urls but add completely new content and new titles and add a link?
4) do a 301 redirect to the home page from all these pages?

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FranksToys

11 years ago

Simple answer is to use different hosts like you were asking...

Its cheap, easy and creates the most seperation. Just dont be an idiot nad have the same domain ownership information on each domain.

The backlink service I use is spot on, I think they have an account with every hosting company in existence lol.

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Kevin Maguire

11 years ago

You know.
For linking from this page, to lots of SEO hosting companies. Leaves another footprint in finding lots of ????...SEO hosting companies..

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