Help-a-noob understand: why is this domain a PR9?

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So I was trolling around this weekend learning about backlinks and such, and found this page, which lists what it calls "High Page Rank Daily GoDaddy Auctions" (auctions for expiring DNs with high PRs).

At the top of the list was a PR9: recipesgiveaway.com -- and sure enough I ran it through some PR-checkers, and it does indeed check out as a PR9.

Decided to check out the GoDaddy auction and made a bid for like $25 just for fun (knowing that I'd certainly be outbid)...sure enough it ended up selling for $660.

But what i REALLY want to understand is...WHY is that URL a PR9; i mean, hell: cnn.com is a PR9. It's not all that friendly-sounding a domain name. Furthermore, I ran it through a bunch of backlink-searchers who couldn't come up with more than a few dozen backlinks to it on the internet...

So I'm at a loss: isn't a PR9 the holy grail of PageRank...? My site (which has constantly updating high quality content is languishing as a PR2)...what am I missing here? I just want to understand: how does a not-so-great URL, with few backlinks (that i could find) rank as a PR9?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    It's a fake PR 9. It's not real. All you have to do is visit a few of the internal pages being linked to off the homepage. If it was a real PR 9, they would have PR too. They are all PR n/a.
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    • Profile picture of the author domino66
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      It's a fake PR 9. It's not real. All you have to do is visit a few of the internal pages being linked to off the homepage. If it was a real PR 9, they would have PR too. They are all PR n/a.
      Ha, ok, thanks all. Guess it was a noob Q.

      But let me ask the surely equally-noob follow-up. How do you "fake" a PR9?

      I mean...even if all of the internal pages are PR n/a, well: the HOME page is still a "legitimate" PR9 (...or is it not?)

      What has this website done to "convince" all of the PR-checkers that it's an actual PR9?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Falzone
    Originally Posted by domino66 View Post

    So I was trolling around this weekend learning about backlinks and such, and found this page, which lists what it calls "High Page Rank Daily GoDaddy Auctions" (auctions for expiring DNs with high PRs).

    At the top of the list was a PR9: recipesgiveaway.com -- and sure enough I ran it through some PR-checkers, and it does indeed check out as a PR9.

    Decided to check out the GoDaddy auction and made a bid for like $25 just for fun (knowing that I'd certainly be outbid)...sure enough it ended up selling for $660.

    But what i REALLY want to understand is...WHY is that URL a PR9; i mean, hell: cnn.com is a PR9. It's not all that friendly-sounding a domain name. Furthermore, I ran it through a bunch of backlink-searchers who couldn't come up with more than a few dozen backlinks to it on the internet...

    So I'm at a loss: isn't a PR9 the holy grail of PageRank...? My site (which has constantly updating high quality content is languishing as a PR2)...what am I missing here? I just want to understand: how does a not-so-great URL, with few backlinks (that i could find) rank as a PR9?
    Lol, just made a search by seoquake and seen that all of its indexed pages are PR n/a , this confirms what has been said above, if it were a PR9 it would have been sold as a goldmine! ehehhe
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    The old adage "If it seems to good to be true......" works well for high PR on crappy pages/sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I wonder what the real PR was if it still sells for $600,- or someone is going to be very said in the next update. Can't be that people are that stupid to get scammed for 600 bucks for a PR0 right?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Can't be that people are that stupid to get scammed for 600 bucks for a PR0 right?
      I would hope not, but you never know. I think someone really liked the domain name.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I would hope not, but you never know. I think someone really liked the domain name.
        Yeah maybe the original seller or a friend was helping to bid it up.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I wonder what the real PR was if it still sells for $600,- or someone is going to be very said in the next update. Can't be that people are that stupid to get scammed for 600 bucks for a PR0 right?
      Faking PR is a sure sign of bad stuff, but many here, (too many) would
      readily shell out $600+ for some magical domain/site...PR not even
      withstanding.

      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I would hope not, but you never know. I think someone really liked the domain name.
      "Really liking" a domain is why people get rich selling domains. People still act
      like it's 1998 or something. I will never forget pets.com. That sock
      puppet is still engrained in my mind. If some here have no idea what I'm
      talking about, lucky for you. It was a ridiculous time.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    There are numerous schemes out there for faking PR. Those PR checkers are crap.

    Really, you need to investigate the backlinks and make a judgement for yourself based on that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cosmit
      One way is to do a 301 to a high PR page, and after the PR update, just remove the 301 and you will still have the PR of the site you redirected to. That may have been patched.

      Another way is to do a 301 from a high PR to another site, sell it, and remove the 301 to remove all the link juice.

      That's all I can think of.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by Cosmit View Post

        One way is to do a 301 to a high PR page, and after the PR update, just remove the 301 and you will still have the PR of the site you redirected to. That may have been patched.

        Another way is to do a 301 from a high PR to another site, sell it, and remove the 301 to remove all the link juice.

        That's all I can think of.
        People can even fake it so that hardly any one recognizes it, just by using real links from their network and removing the links after the sale and rinse & repeat. Heck most people that know a lot about SEO would fall for it that way.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          People can even fake it so that hardly any one recognizes it, just by using real links from their network and removing the links after the sale and rinse & repeat. Heck most people that know a lot about SEO would fall for it that way.

          Yep... beware the domains with lots of homepage links. That is usually a pretty good giveaway.
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