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Buying My First Expired PR Domain - What Do I Need to Know?

by dreamtoreality
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I'm planning on using the power of expired high PR domains to rank some keywords, but I have a few questions which I would appreciate being answered.

- I've been using PR Power Shot, which seems like a great program, but I need to confirm a few things to make sure that I'm not being scammed.

All of these questions are concerning PR3 domains and solely using Majestic SEO and Google.

1. Is a trust flow and citation flow reading of 10> good enough?

2. Is 25-50 referring domains enough?

3. Is 50-100 backlinks enough?

4. Ideally, how many Referring IP addresses and Class C subnets should there be?

5. I understand the info:abc search in Google, but what about cached pages. If none exist then should I stay away from the domain even if all the things stated above check out?

6. After I've bought the domain, I take it that it's fine to delete all the content (if any exists) and then add new content?

7. Why do people suggest buying a high PR domain, and then placing a couple of links to a new website they're working on? Why not just add content to the high PR domain, as it's already got a good PR and should rank as it is. Is it because you have to make the content on both websites relevant for ranking purposes?

8. Every time I want to build a new website should I just purchase a few PR3 domains and then write a couple of articles placing a couple of backlinks pointing to the new website?

My logic is that this means the backlinks will all be very relevant to the niche so will hold more weight in Google's eyes. There will also be less of a footprint.

9. Does the name of the domain or extension matter at all?

10. Is using SEO Host's Dedicated C Class Ip Hosting good enough?

Woah, that's a lot of questions. I wasn't planning on asking so many but they just kept on coming to me as I was typing.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Dustin Blevins
    I can't really help you that much on the first few questions, but here's a little info I do know.

    6. After you buy the domain all you get is the domain name. There is absolutely no content. You have to transfer it to your host and then put new content on it.

    7. The point of buying high pr domains is so that you have control over a high quality backlink. So you put in the content that you want so that your link seems relevant to your money site.

    8. In my opinion it depends on the niche. If you stick in the same niche you can put 3-5 outbound links on the site. The reason I am buying high pr domains is because I am going to use them all for the same niche and will be able to use a network of 10+ high authority high pr backlinks to point to my local market niche.

    9. I do not believe the extension matters at all. But for some reason I always stay away from the .info sites. For some reason they just give me a bad feeling and I don't want to mess with them.

    10. I use seo host and a lot of other people do as well. You can also just make individual accounts at other host companies if you want to play it safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimWRoberts
    As for 1,2,3 and 4: Is it enough? That depends on your competition for the keyword/s you are trying to rank for. Fewer high ranking PR backlinks will trump many lower PR backlinks, but you will want to compare this against your competition.

    Buying expired domains may help you jump off the line a little quicker but it shouldn't be your major SEO strategy. On Page SEO / content is still king, even on a new domain. But it can help to have several older (high PR) domains linking to your site. This is the major reason people buy expired domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      - I've been using PR Power Shot, which seems like a great program, but I need to confirm a few things to make sure that I'm not being scammed.
      I tried out PR Power Shot. Thought it was awful. Haven't used it in months though. Maybe it is better now.

      Originally Posted by TimWRoberts View Post

      Buying expired domains may help you jump off the line a little quicker but it shouldn't be your major SEO strategy. On Page SEO / content is still king, even on a new domain. But it can help to have several older (high PR) domains linking to your site. This is the major reason people buy expired domains.
      Actually, it very well can be your major SEO strategy. On page SEO is certainly important (especially internal links structure), but a few really good links are far more valuable. Content is far from king. It is not queen, prince, princess, or even a lowly duke. It is more important than it was 5 years ago, but still far from royalty.

      If you are buying high PR domains, remember that all PR 3's are not equal. PR is rated on a logarithmic scale. It is not just whole numbers, although that is all we can see. A PR 3 might actually be a PR 3.78931. Without getting into a mathematical lesson, that can mean that a site which is a PR 3.78931 can be far more powerful than one that is a PR 3.34562 because of the logarithmic scale.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimWRoberts
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Actually, it very well can be your major SEO strategy.
        I'll concede your point; it can be one's major SEO strategy. People do have success pumping out tons of sites ranking them quickly via 'expired domain strategy' as the major strategy. However, my suggestion is to make it a supplemental offering to a good 'content' quality site. Perhaps I subscribe to the Matt Cutts suggested approach of "content is king" a little more after the panda penguin google updates.

        But I like your take, sounds like you have a lot of success using expired domains.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

          - I understand that I should avoid SEO Hosting and go for multiple shared hosting plans. But how many domains can I use per hosting site? I take it that the domains on a specific hosting account should be in different niches as well, as I'll obviously be interlinking these sites.
          I have as many as 4-5 on some of the same hosting packages, but they are in completely different niches linking to sites on completely different IP's.

          Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

          - I take it that I should only use a few links per site and use private registration, but is there anything else I should know about to cover my tracks?
          My sites that I build are viable sites in their own right. Nothing that looks like some crappy ALN blog or BMR blog. Most of mine have a Twitter account linked to them. Some have a Facebook account. There are social buttons, custom header graphics, etc. They have good, original content. They could stand alone as a worthwhile site on their own. They just happen to link to another site or two that I care about.

          If you saw one, you would not realize that it was created for the purpose of helping to rank another site or sites.

          I also vary my outbound link profiles. Just because a site is in the same niche, I do not let it link to all of the same sites. If I have 3 sites in the same niche I am trying to rank and 10 sites in my network, site 1 might link to all 3. Site 2 might only link to the first site. Site 3 links to the first and third site. And so on. If you only have a few sites, sometimes it is more difficult. In that case, I just include more backlinks to related sites. Find an article on CNN or MSN to link to, or Wikipedia. Whatever.

          Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

          Btw, PR Power Shot may have changed, as it now shows you the number of backlinks, age and social signals. It's really slow though.
          From my memory, it did a lousy job. It basically just scraped the TDNAM list from GoDaddy. Scrapebox can do that, and does it much faster.
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      • Profile picture of the author irishsolar
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I tried out PR Power Shot. Thought it was awful. Haven't used it in months though. Maybe it is better now.



        Actually, it very well can be your major SEO strategy. On page SEO is certainly important (especially internal links structure), but a few really good links are far more valuable. Content is far from king. It is not queen, prince, princess, or even a lowly duke. It is more important than it was 5 years ago, but still far from royalty.
        I agree. "Content is King" is the same Google B.S. as the "build it and they will come" Matt Cutts approach to SEO. Anyone who argues that content is important to Google doesn't use them as their primary search engine because they obviously aren't looking at the same SERPs as the rest of us!

        Building your own private network of targeted niche related high PR mini-sites is the very best SEO strategy that exists today. Although you cannot believe anything Cutts says he has stated that Google are trying to eliminate SEnuke type backlink (not his words but that is what he meant when he talked about upstream link value). So high PR links from relevant sites will be the only link worth getting if this is true.

        However for some time it has been true that when it comes to backlinks: Relevance + PR (Google authority) = better rankings.

        The problem I am having these days is finding aged domains with real PR. There are just so many sellers pushing fake PR and so many newbie marketers buying them that the fake domains are saturating the market. It is almost impossible to find a valid PR4+ domain.

        Do you guys recommend any good sites to find domains with valid PR?
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Hi Mike, I was hoping you would answer, as I've been reading as much as I can about PR domains and private networks, and your name keeps coming up.

    I think I pretty much understand the whole what to look for and buying process, but I need to know about hosting these domains. I'm planning on purchasing 10 domains in total.

    So for Mike for anyone else:

    - I understand that I should avoid SEO Hosting and go for multiple shared hosting plans. But how many domains can I use per hosting site? I take it that the domains on a specific hosting account should be in different niches as well, as I'll obviously be interlinking these sites.

    - I take it that I should only use a few links per site and use private registration, but is there anything else I should know about to cover my tracks?

    Btw, PR Power Shot may have changed, as it now shows you the number of backlinks, age and social signals. It's really slow though.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      Hi Mike, I was hoping you would answer, as I've been reading as much as I can about PR domains and private networks, and your name keeps coming up.

      I think I pretty much understand the whole what to look for and buying process, but I need to know about hosting these domains. I'm planning on purchasing 10 domains in total.

      So for Mike for anyone else:

      - I understand that I should avoid SEO Hosting and go for multiple shared hosting plans. But how many domains can I use per hosting site? I take it that the domains on a specific hosting account should be in different niches as well, as I'll obviously be interlinking these sites.

      - I take it that I should only use a few links per site and use private registration, but is there anything else I should know about to cover my tracks?

      Btw, PR Power Shot may have changed, as it now shows you the number of backlinks, age and social signals. It's really slow though.
      You can host as many as you want per shared hosting account as long as they are different niche. You should have a new one for each site if you are aiming for the best results.
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      • Profile picture of the author petemcal
        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        You can host as many as you want per shared hosting account as long as they are different niche. You should have a new one for each site if you are aiming for the best results.
        Even if you're not linking to the same target site from a group of PR domains on a shared server you still need to be careful.

        If you're linking to multiple varied niche sites they should not be on a shared server with each other. Otherwise you create a footprint of all sites on one IP (your high PR sites) linking to all/most of the sites on another IP (your target sites) which isn't very natural looking.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
          Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

          Even if you're not linking to the same target site from a group of PR domains on a shared server you still need to be careful.

          If you're linking to multiple varied niche sites they should not be on a shared server with each other. Otherwise you create a footprint of all sites on one IP (your high PR sites) linking to all/most of the sites on another IP (your target sites) which isn't very natural looking.
          I agree. It is best to have complete separate accounts on shared hosting plans but if the OP does wanna save money he could try it without as much risk an saving money
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          • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
            I've just started using SEO Spyglass to analyse the backlinks, but what do you usually like to see when thinking about purchasing a PR3 domain?

            I know that nothing is set in stone, but is 1 PR 4/5, a few PR3, 10-20 PR2 and the rest PR 1/0/NA good enough?

            What about number the number of backlinks from different domains?
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            • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
              Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

              I've just started using SEO Spyglass to analyse the backlinks, but what do you usually like to see when thinking about purchasing a PR3 domain?

              I know that nothing is set in stone, but is 1 PR 4/5, a few PR3, 10-20 PR2 and the rest PR 1/0/NA good enough?

              What about number the number of backlinks from different domains?
              You need to not only look to see if domains are having current live backlinks but also what type of backlinks they are.

              If they are all sidebar / footer links, chances are they were purchased and will fall off. If they are contexual links or directory the chances are much higher they will stay put.

              Run SpyGlass like this for faster results:
              Hope this helps and keep asking questions to learn (oh btw this system works, been using it and my ranking has increased. I just spend about $2,000 on pr3 and pr4 domain names this week to keep growing my network).
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              • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
                Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

                Hope this helps and keep asking questions to learn (oh btw this system works, been using it and my ranking has increased. I just spend about $2,000 on pr3 and pr4 domain names this week to keep growing my network).
                How do you feel about cheap domains - $20 - which have a single PR 4 or 5 pointing to them. Useful in any way?
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                • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
                  Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

                  How do you feel about cheap domains - $20 - which have a single PR 4 or 5 pointing to them. Useful in any way?
                  Well it could be useful, the problem is that the chances of it sticking PR4 or PR5 with one good backlink are slim. However you may get lucky you just never know, all the domains I buy have atleast 20 if not hundreds of pr1,2,3,4,5,6 backlinks.

                  That way even if the 1 pr6 drops off I have 99 more smaller pr ones that are still flowing link juice to my money site.

                  Honestly if I were to put someones link on all my domains with PR they would be a pr5 in the next update. I don't link any personal stuff on these just one money site that needs the rankings.

                  But I would go for a pr3 with 100 pr backlinks for $80 over a $20 pr4 that will most likely drop because it only has one backlink.
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

                  How do you feel about cheap domains - $20 - which have a single PR 4 or 5 pointing to them. Useful in any way?
                  I feel... you get what you pay for...
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                  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    I feel... you get what you pay for...
                    I concur. I would go for bigger hitters myself.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

                  How do you feel about cheap domains - $20 - which have a single PR 4 or 5 pointing to them. Useful in any way?
                  Depends on the likelihood of that one link staying in place plus there really is no such thing as a $20 PR4 at godaddy (I presume). That doesn't include registration fees so you are talking $30-$40 (whois privacy)

                  Lose the one link and congratulations you just Paid $40 to register an ordinary domain for a year.
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                  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Depends on the likelihood of that one link staying in place plus there really is no such thing as a $20 PR4 at godaddy (I presume). That doesn't include registration fees so you are talking $30-$40 (whois privacy)

                    Lose the one link and congratulations you just Paid $40 to register an ordinary domain for a year.
                    Hmmm, interesting. About an hour ago I bought a 4 year old never been dropped PR3 domain for $20 which had a single link from a PR5 page pointing to it. The PR5 page had no other outbound links. It's likely to stay, as the link has been there since 08. Site: and info: shows data.

                    Domain Authority: 18
                    Page Authority: 32

                    A worthwhile purchase? If not, it was only $20 (just the domain) so not the end of the world, I suppose.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

                      A worthwhile purchase? If not, it was only $20 (just the domain) so not the end of the world, I suppose.
                      If its an interior link from back in 2008 like in an article it has an excellent chance of staying and isn't a bad buy. Thats one of the things people overlook when they start talking about domains with a lot of links andd how easy it is to buy domains yada yada yada. I don't give a rip if a domains has a hundred PR links to it. Where are the links coming from? If they are on the front page of sites or on a blog roll or worse an image ad they can ALL vanish in a heartbeat.
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                      • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        If its an interior link from back in 2008 like in an article it has an excellent chance of staying and isn't a bad buy. Thats one of the things people overlook when they start talking about domains with a lot of links andd how easy it is to buy domains yada yada yada. I don't give a rip if a domains has a hundred PR links to it. Where are the links coming from? If they are on the front page of sites or on a blog roll or worse an image ad they can ALL vanish in a heartbeat.
                        I made sure that the link was coming from an inner page. It's only been a couple of days but I think I'm getting the hang of this and mostly know what to look for. Next is finding out how not to leave a footprint.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    ood enough?

    2. Is 25-50 referring domains enough?

    3. Is 50-100 backlinks enough?


    Thanks
    If you can get an expired domain with 50-100 backlinks from up to 50 referring domains, then that is a good deal. Don't worry too much about the PR in those tools, look at the the backlink profile. PR can come back once the site goes live again. I have bought expired domains for $11.99 with decent backlinks that have come back to life as PR4s. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Usually I get a PR2 or PR3.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by squadron View Post

      If you can get an expired domain with 50-100 backlinks from up to 50 referring domains, then that is a good deal.
      Not going to happen. Any PR4 with that kind of a strong backlink profile is going to be snatched up by either a public "drop catcher" like snapnames or someone with a private setup (Theres one serious domainer out there with a killer setup with several servers)

      Unfortunately theres so many services out there now the really good domains don't get missed. Best shot at some deals is like with the namejet setup. When auctions start its private to those that bid before. Small auction....few people forget or don't bother to bid and you might snag a good one.

      I get Pr4s too that are expired but the backlink profile isn't as good as what the OP is talking about.
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      • Profile picture of the author squadron
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Not going to happen. Any PR4 with that kind of a strong backlink profile is going to be snatched up by either a public "drop catcher" like snapnames or someone with a private setup (Theres one serious domainer out there with a killer setup with several servers)

        Unfortunately theres so many services out there now the really good domains don't get missed. Best shot at some deals is like with the namejet setup. When auctions start its private to those that bid before. Small auction....few people forget or don't bother to bid and you might snag a good one.

        I get Pr4s too that are expired but the backlink profile isn't as good as what the OP is talking about.
        If you know where and how to look you can still get expired/deleted domains dirt cheap. I bought 3 today for $1.12 each using a special Godaddy discount code. Let's see what their PR is in 5-6 weeks

        I'd expect at least PR2 for all of them. They are:
        MOSTLIKEDCOMPARISONS.COM
        BUSINESSNEWSTIME.COM
        EAGLETOBACCO.COM
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by squadron View Post

          If you know where and how to look you can still get expired/deleted domains dirt cheap. I bought 3 today for $1.12 each using a special Godaddy discount code. Let's see what their PR is in 5-6 weeks

          I'd expect at least PR2 for all of them. They are:
          MOSTLIKEDCOMPARISONS.COM
          BUSINESSNEWSTIME.COM
          EAGLETOBACCO.COM

          I see a PR 0 and 2 PR n/a's that look like they have been deindexed.

          Get what you pay for.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProSence
    This kind of technique works as I have seen people are doing and getting good result.

    type in google

    site:yourexpireddomainname.com

    and use those domains which have highest number of results..
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  • Profile picture of the author link82
    dreamtoreality - Hey! I hope you don't mind, I just PM'd you with some ?s. I'm about to go for PR Powershot and want to make sure I know what I'm getting into.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by link82 View Post

      dreamtoreality - Hey! I hope you don't mind, I just PM'd you with some ?s. I'm about to go for PR Powershot and want to make sure I know what I'm getting into.
      I just sent you a PM but please note that I'm new to the game. The two Mikes really know what they're talking about, so does Gotlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author magestore
    2. Is 25-50 referring domains enough?
    Based on the competition in your niche market, in general, 25-50 is not enough, you should get more. 80-100 is fairly good.

    3. Is 50-100 backlinks enough?
    It's not enough, you should build at least 200 backlinks including 20% dofollow and the rest are nofollow
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by magestore View Post

      3. Is 50-100 backlinks enough?
      It's not enough, you should build at least 200 backlinks including 20% dofollow and the rest are nofollow

      I do not think I have ever found a site with 80% of its links being nofollow. The norm is somewhere less than 5%.

      If you find one that is 80%, stay the hell away.
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  • Profile picture of the author link82
    I got the poster's opinion on this. How about the rest of you heavily involved in buying these puppies?

    If you're new, is PR Powershot worth it?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by link82 View Post

      I got the poster's opinion on this. How about the test of you heavily involved in buying these puppies?

      If you're new, is PR Powershot worth it?
      It's garbage.
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      • Profile picture of the author link82
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        It's garbage.
        Hi Mike,

        Thanks for answering I'd like to know the reason(s) why you think so...? Also, do you find the domains manually or use another software to help with the search?

        If manual, is there a good post on how to go about doing this? Esp for a newbie at expired domains :/
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadRichards
    I'm not way into this myself, but I've heard great things about Register Compass. Also, while everyone else is looking at PR, backlinks, etc., why not pick up expired domains that still get real traffic? They're out there. You can easily grab something for $100 that still gets over a hundred visitors per month. Of course, you'll want to make sure it was a site in your niche.
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    This sounds like a great way to build tier two links to your main site!
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    Yes, it sounds good if the page rank stays..
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    • Profile picture of the author link82
      Originally Posted by ProSence View Post

      Yes, it sounds good if the page rank stays..
      If the links stay, won't the PR? Give me straight PR talk...
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      • Profile picture of the author ChadRichards
        Originally Posted by link82 View Post

        If the links stay, won't the PR? Give me straight PR talk...
        You never know what might happen with the next PR update. Some of your links might lose a lot of PR owing to link loss or onsite changes, causing it to fluctuate quite a bit.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by ChadRichards View Post

          I'm not way into this myself, but I've heard great things about Register Compass. Also, while everyone else is looking at PR, backlinks, etc., why not pick up expired domains that still get real traffic? They're out there. You can easily grab something for $100 that still gets over a hundred visitors per month. Of course, you'll want to make sure it was a site in your niche.
          Because traffic has nothing to do with why people are buying domains with high PR. They are building a link network.


          Originally Posted by link82 View Post

          Hi Mike,

          Thanks for answering I'd like to know the reason(s) why you think so...? Also, do you find the domains manually or use another software to help with the search?

          If manual, is there a good post on how to go about doing this? Esp for a newbie at expired domains :/
          All PR Powershot does is scrape the TDNAM at GoDaddy. For a couple of bucks more, you can buy Scrapebox and do the same thing. Plus Scrapebox has a billion other uses.

          Powershot, if I remember correctly, tended to pull up a lot of domains that were already gone too. Just a huge waste of time.

          RegisterCompass, Snapnames, and other services out there do a better job.
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          • Profile picture of the author link82
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            Because traffic has nothing to do with why people are buying domains with high PR. They are building a link network.

            All PR Powershot does is scrape the TDNAM at GoDaddy. For a couple of bucks more, you can buy Scrapebox and do the same thing. Plus Scrapebox has a billion other uses.

            Powershot, if I remember correctly, tended to pull up a lot of domains that were already gone too. Just a huge waste of time.

            RegisterCompass, Snapnames, and other services out there do a better job.
            I didn't realize Scrapebox picks up expired domains as well? Scrapebox seems to be VERY powerful stuff but... I probably can't even begin to understand what all it does unless I use it for a week or two.

            However, Scrapebox is $97 (just found it for $57) whereas Powershot is $27. I only wanted something that could show me several things in one: PR (real, faked, checked, whatever), backlinks pointing to domain, and essentials. But it sounds like nothing takes place of doing it manually.

            I'd just hate to do the manual work only to accidentally skip a step and waste money buying what I thought was a high PR domain. Or by the time I analyze the data, someone else has bought the domain.

            But as dreamtoreality has helped me, it seems like I need to use Free SEOSpyglass along with expiredomains.net.

            I see 'expired' domains and 'deleted' domains. I get expired but not sure about deleted or diff between the two?

            Also, I see a domain that's pr4. I'm a newbie so I'm not sure if it's worth buying or not. It's a pr4 with links from only 7 varying domains (each domain links multiple times for a total of 19 backlinks). The linking domains seem to be of .org, .edu, & blogspot links. I see one bid already but I"m more concerned about understanding if it's a good buy or not. Or if these links should stick

            Lastly, if I end up buying this and the domain has nothing to do with the content I'm about to lay on it, will this matter? Will I end up losing PR? Or should the content remain close to what the site used to be about (or domain's about)?

            I realize I've hijacked dreamtoreality's post and I'm sorry. I started my own and noone responded to it. I love to get help where I can so I hope no one minds. I have a lot to learn. TIA.

            More notes: a couple of the links are from 2010 and one is from a .edu page, looks legit. Will the bidding get ugly in the last hour or so?
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            • Profile picture of the author abhikala1
              Originally Posted by link82 View Post

              More notes: a couple of the links are from 2010 and one is from a .edu page, looks legit. Will the bidding get ugly in the last hour or so?
              If the domain is legit then, you will see lots buyers bidding when auction comes to closing, You need to watch closely.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by link82 View Post

              I didn't realize Scrapebox picks up expired domains as well? Scrapebox seems to be VERY powerful stuff but... I probably can't even begin to understand what all it does unless I use it for a week or two.

              However, Scrapebox is $97 (just found it for $57) whereas Powershot is $27. I only wanted something that could show me several things in one: PR (real, faked, checked, whatever), backlinks pointing to domain, and essentials. But it sounds like nothing takes place of doing it manually.
              Well neither one is going to give you any useful information really. They will tell you the PR, but you have to still check and make sure it is not faked or manipulated.

              Originally Posted by link82 View Post

              I'd just hate to do the manual work only to accidentally skip a step and waste money buying what I thought was a high PR domain. Or by the time I analyze the data, someone else has bought the domain.

              But as dreamtoreality has helped me, it seems like I need to use Free SEOSpyglass along with expiredomains.net.
              SpyGlass is the best tool for analyzing domains. Doesn't hurt to have a subscription to Majestic or Ahrefs too. Take the links they have in their index and import them into SpyGlass. The advantage of SpyGlass is it will check to see if the links still exist today. Majestic, Ahrefs, OSE, or any other backlink checker do not tell you that.

              Originally Posted by link82 View Post

              Also, I see a domain that's pr4. I'm a newbie so I'm not sure if it's worth buying or not. It's a pr4 with links from only 7 varying domains (each domain links multiple times for a total of 19 backlinks). The linking domains seem to be of .org, .edu, & blogspot links. I see one bid already but I"m more concerned about understanding if it's a good buy or not. Or if these links should stick
              I'll tell you this, .org, .edu, etc. makes absolutely no difference when it comes to PR. You need to just make a determination if the link will stick or not.

              Originally Posted by link82 View Post

              Lastly, if I end up buying this and the domain has nothing to do with the content I'm about to lay on it, will this matter? Will I end up losing PR? Or should the content remain close to what the site used to be about (or domain's about)?
              PR has nothing to do with content.

              Now if the sites linking to it are actively checking who they are linking to and see a dramatic change in the site content, they might decide to remove the link. There is no way for you to know that though.

              Even if you have been buying domains for a long time, you are still occasionally going to buy some domains that end up losing their PR unexpectedly. It happens.
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