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How is this possible?

by gezprior
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Really confused about backlinks ranking now.

Just been looking at a site called payday-mom.co.uk, ranking number one here in the UK for "payday loans", looking at it through serps attacks it has no backlinks but using ahrefs.com it has over 80,000, here`s the thing though, according to whois the domain was registered on jan 3rd 2013! how is that possible?

Three week old site, 80,000 backlinks, number one for a competitive niche, am I missing something?
  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by gezprior View Post

    whois the domain was registered on jan 3rd 2013!

    Three week old site, 80,000 backlinks, number one for a competitive niche, am I missing something?
    No way that this domain was just registered and already has 80,000 back links. I think that there is a mistake in those numbers. Maybe it is more like 80.

    Unless they took an older domain name that they had 80,000 back links and redirect that to their new website.
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    • Profile picture of the author gezprior
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      No way that this domain was just registered and already has 80,000 back links. I think that there is a mistake in those numbers. Maybe it is more like 80.

      Unless they took an older domain name that they had 80,000 back links and redirect that to their new website.
      Have a look at this https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/bac...yday-mom.co.uk
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    • Profile picture of the author shuvoimtiaz
      I completely agree with you. There must be a 301 permanent redirection. Otherwise know ethical way of such SEO.
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      • Profile picture of the author gezprior
        Originally Posted by shuvoimtiaz View Post

        I completely agree with you. There must be a 301 permanent redirection. Otherwise know ethical way of such SEO.
        How does that work?
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        • Profile picture of the author gezprior
          See if these come through better



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          • Profile picture of the author LillySage
            Surprise...blackhat seo methods still work...at least temporarily. Check back and see if that site's still listed so well in a month.
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            • Profile picture of the author gezprior
              Having done a bit more digging seems to be an SQL and JavaScript injection, blackhat method but i guess that site is going to make some money then when it`s binned...on to the next.
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  • Profile picture of the author winsoar
    I get that site in position 1 as well at the moment. Website looks like its designed nicely.

    It certainly is an acheivement getting a site to number one in that short space of time. If what you say is correct I don't think it will stay there very long!
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    • Profile picture of the author gezprior
      Originally Posted by winsoar View Post

      I get that site in position 1 as well at the moment. Website looks like its designed nicely.

      It certainly is an acheivement getting a site to number one in that short space of time. If what you say is correct I don't think it will stay there very long!
      I`m baffled
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      • Profile picture of the author gezprior
        Have a look...
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    if you check the backlink on the site, you will see that those links are not visible. and it seems they exploited a bug/hole in a plugin.
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  • Profile picture of the author bcruan
    Domain was registered in feb 1995. Mystery solved
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    • Profile picture of the author gezprior
      Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

      Domain was registered in feb 1995. Mystery solved
      According to whois:

      Domain name:
      payday-mom.co.uk

      Registrant:
      sherif mamdouh

      Registrant type:
      Unknown

      Registrant's address:
      1 shoubra
      cairo
      shoubra
      11231
      Egypt

      Registrar:
      GoDaddy.com, LLP. [Tag = GODADDY]

      Relevant dates:
      Registered on: 03-Jan-2013
      Expiry date: 03-Jan-2014
      Last updated: 03-Jan-2013

      Registration status:
      Registered until expiry date.

      Name servers:
      ns721.hostgator.com
      ns722.hostgator.com

      Disclaimer
      WHOIS lookup made at 13:19:59 25-Jan-2013



      Also, if you look at the backlink information provided by ahref, first backlinks started on the 15th Jan 2013. Just been told on another forum this is some kind of "hack" trick used by some black hater....not my style so did`nt ask anymore about it.

      *just checked again, another 15,000 backlinks added today, total now stands at 106,000! how on earth are we supposed to compete with this kind of aggressive marketing?

      *update* seems there is a method of hacking someones site using javascipt injection, then dropping a backlink on to that page with out it being visible but recognised by the search engines, found this link from someone who has had problems. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...joomla-website
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

        No way that this domain was just registered and already has 80,000 back links. I think that there is a mistake in those numbers. Maybe it is more like 80.
        80? LOL. 80 backlinks wouldn't get you in the top 100 pages in that niche.

        I know people creating much more than 80,000 links in a much shorter time frame. It's not that hard.

        Originally Posted by shuvoimtiaz View Post

        I completely agree with you. There must be a 301 permanent redirection. Otherwise know ethical way of such SEO.
        Who said it had to be ethical?


        The PayDay Loan niche is well known for churn and burn sites. People create these sites (and they are usually pretty nice looking or they won't convert well), spam the crap out of them, get them to the top of the rankings for a few weeks, make a ton of money, watch them crash and burn, and then rinse and repeat.
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    • Profile picture of the author Demetrius
      Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

      Domain was registered in feb 1995. Mystery solved
      Where did you get this information? While whois is giving us some other ideas?:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author GeekSlash
    The funny thing in all of this is that 'mom' isn't a British word, here it's 'mum' instead. One of the competitors should inform both Nominet and Hostgator, pretty sure this would be taken down fast by at least one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    The guy with the payday domain (URL in OP) is leaving a huge footprint.

    "By PDM payday Loans"
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    I noticed in the source code of multiple domains, this guys backlink shows up in the source code exactly one line below the Share This HTML code comment.
    <!-- SHARETHIS BUTTON END -->
    Looking at the HTML source code do a page search for By PDMOM on the backlink pages, one line above that you'll see the Share This code.
    • http://brewery-locals-nights/80-breweries/182-goodlife-brewing-co.html
    • http://www.provinginnocence.org/systemic-reform/non-legislative-reform/michigan/571-bridget-mccormack-elected-to-an-8-year-term.html
    • http://www.leadprogram.org/news/10-sponsors/47-sun-life-financial

    Coincidence?
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  • Profile picture of the author karismasand
    Is a SQL injection

    Check this thread
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