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$1000 day with PPC!

by DaZapper12
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Hello everyone, I am currently in the process of starting a Bing PPC campaign in the middle of next week, I will have the traffic directed to a squeeze page (IM Niche) with the backend of the page being the product my affiliate link to Google sniper 2. I will most likely use squeeze ninja (product recommended to me on a list I'm on) to build the funnel. Now I only have a bit of keywords and ads in adcenter since I'm trying to see if these will win and bring in the stats i want to see, and hopefully scale that. Lets say I'll have at least a 1% conversion rate on the OTO immediately after someone signs up and I'll be spending up to 8 cents a click for exact searches. We'll spend a small amount, 80 bucks (set to burn as quickly as possibly) on at least 1000 clicks, and make about 10 sales on Google Sniper (avg commission is currently $74 but I'd say id get a $37-47 sale) that's going to be about $470, and 390 in profit, in theory of course if everything works, the funnel converts, the traffic is good, and the PPC campaign is a winner. Thats what I'm starting with next week, and I hope to scale that later to get my first $1000 day before the end of February (as a fun time goal lol) solely on the backend of the squeeze page. Any thoughts warriors?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Make sure to factor in the high refund rates at clickbank. You don't want to get caught spending alot of money on PPC only have have 20% or more refunded later on.

    Every plan always looks good on paper.

    Good luck...
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Make sure to factor in the high refund rates at clickbank. You don't want to get caught spending alot of money on PPC only have have 20% or more refunded later on.

      Every plan always looks good on paper.

      Good luck...
      Very true, Google snipers headline in the marketplace states "Lowest Refunds on CB" at 14% lol. I definitely have to take that into account but I don't believe it will interfere too much, and if it does I'll see what to do. I never spend money I know I wont have. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    Do you have previous experience with PPC? If not, then don't aim for high profit figures as you might end up disappointed, disillusioned and give up soon. Try and test out. Don't worry if things don't go according to expectations. Many people lose money in PPC before finally making some.

    What is important is not just the money you are getting upfront, but the fact that you are making a list which you can promote some other offers later on and make some money. Maybe promote some good, cheaply priced WSO's and make some money off them (WarriorPlus and JVZoo have a list of many top performing WSO offers - you can become affiliate and promote these to your list). Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      Do you have previous experience with PPC? If not, then don't aim for high profit figures as you might end up disappointed, disillusioned and give up soon. Try and test out. Don't worry if things don't go according to expectations. Many people lose money in PPC before finally making some.

      What is important is not just the money you are getting upfront, but the fact that you are making a list which you can promote some other offers later on and make some money. Maybe promote some good, cheaply priced WSO's and make some money off them (WarriorPlus and JVZoo have a list of many top performing WSO offers - you can become affiliate and promote these to your list). Hope that helps.
      Good advice, I have a little experience with PPC, and I believe I am aiming pretty low lol. But there is no way I'm giving up trying to build up. I have a followup series that I think need some serious tweaking as I'm also adding more messages, I have a list of almost 300 with nearly invisible open rates in aweber... not good, and before I build it further I'm trying to build a sales funnel that works, converts. Then see if my messages get opened and clicked on. I'll see what WSO's I can promote in a couple followup messages Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    A good way to get to $1000 per day with clickbank products is when you work with programs that can bank you more money with their upsells.

    In the past I used to promote these offers a little bit.

    You get paid $30 commissions for example and then there are a few upsells in the back office or back end and you can bank $200-$300 per customer.

    If you can get a 3-10 sales per day and 2-4 people buy the upsells, you can easily get to $1000 per day.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      A good way to get to $1000 per day with clickbank products is when you work with programs that can bank you more money with their upsells.

      In the past I used to promote these offers a little bit.

      You get paid $30 commissions for example and then there are a few upsells in the back office or back end and you can bank $200-$300 per customer.

      If you can get a 3-10 sales per day and 2-4 people buy the upsells, you can easily get to $1000 per day.
      Awesome! Thats also a reason I promote a higher priced CB product with those upsells, in my followup. I might make a squeeze page with those products as the backed. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    Making a $1000 a day is definitely possible. I started promoting a CPA offer last week using Bing Ad center and with 12 keywords I'm making about $400 per day which is about 10 sales and spending about $50 per day. Find what works and then just expand
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by jpsween88 View Post

      Making a $1000 a day is definitely possible. I started promoting a CPA offer last week using Bing Ad center and with 12 keywords I'm making about $400 per day which is about 10 sales and spending about $50 per day. Find what works and then just expand
      That's sweet man, I hope you get to expand that too and with only 12 keywords that sounds really good. Im hoping I have a winning campaign just sitting there in Ad center. cant wait to start it up lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
    Yeah... I wouldn't make any PPC projections until you have some real numbers to base them off of from your own ad spend.

    Not saying you shouldn't try it- if you have funds then go for it. But PPC involves an expensive education to get right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Originally Posted by NateRivers View Post

      Yeah... I wouldn't make any PPC projections until you have some real numbers to base them off of from your own ad spend.

      Not saying you shouldn't try it- if you have funds then go for it. But PPC involves an expensive education to get right.

      I agree, starting a new campaign is all about buying data, after a while you will know if it will be profitable. Be willing to spend money purely for data at first.

      I keep accounts on the side with money, just for testing. If it doesn't make it out of there first, it will NOT be in my campaigns...
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

        I agree, starting a new campaign is all about buying data, after a while you will know if it will be profitable. Be willing to spend money purely for data at first.

        I keep accounts on the side with money, just for testing. If it doesn't make it out of there first, it will NOT be in my campaigns...
        Yup, I'm trying to start small and if it works/converts I'll scale it or spend till I find what does work. If that's what you mean.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
          Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

          Yup, I'm trying to start small and if it works/converts I'll scale it or spend till I find what does work. If that's what you mean.
          You just have to set money aside, that you are willing to lose. Not all paid traffic converts, so you have to keep testing to see what is working and what to leave out your campaign.

          At the end of the day you are not really losing money, but buying data to better your campaigns. Alot of people have the misconception that if you pay for traffic, that it will convert, it doesn't work that way. You still have to sort out the bad traffic from the good.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Just a question, but aren't you at all concerned that some/many of the people to whom you promote this product "successfully" will actually buy it through their own affiliate links (since that's allowed, and so easy), rather than through yours?
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            • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Just a question, but aren't you at all concerned that some/many of the people to whom you promote this product "successfully" will actually buy it through their own affiliate links (since that's allowed, and so easy), rather than through yours?
              Yet another reason to have your own product made, and sell that instead of spending tons of money on PPC, for products with a high refund and fraud rates. With your own product you can have the money instantly in your account, and don't have to worry any of that B.S...
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

                Yet another reason to have your own product made
                Or - if finding it easier and safer to be an affiliate than a vendor - just not to promote ClickBank products in any IM markets in which a proportion of "your" customers will always buy through their own links? :confused:

                There are plenty of other places from which to promote IM-related products, after all, and there are about 297 other niches at ClickBank from which you can promote products without having that problem.
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                • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  Or - if finding it easier and safer to be an affiliate than a vendor - just not to promote ClickBank products in any IM markets in which a proportion of "your" customers will always buy through their own links? :confused:

                  There are plenty of other places from which to promote IM-related products, after all, and there are about 297 other niches at ClickBank from which you can promote products without having that problem.
                  True, I just like the IM Niche, and I personally buy through other peoples links instead of using my own, there are a lot products I like on clickbank in and out of the IM Niche. I guess I just trust people lol.
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                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  Or - if finding it easier and safer to be an affiliate than a vendor - just not to promote ClickBank products in any IM markets in which a proportion of "your" customers will always buy through their own links? :confused:

                  There are plenty of other places from which to promote IM-related products, after all, and there are about 297 other niches at ClickBank from which you can promote products without having that problem.
                  This.

                  I've never touched IM products and don't have many issues with refunds. Admittedly it's been awhile since I've focused on CB. But refunds were never much of an issue when I did.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Phil_t
                    Hey, just checking. Are you tracking keywords? Because no two keywords convert the same.

                    You probably are tracking but just in case, you really need to make sure you are tracking everything.

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                    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
                      Originally Posted by Phil_t View Post

                      Hey, just checking. Are you tracking keywords? Because no two keywords convert the same.

                      You probably are tracking but just in case, you really need to make sure you are tracking everything.

                      Phil
                      Does google analytics count? or is not really for tracking a PPC Campaign?
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                      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
                        I am interested why nobody mentioned Google Adwords. Have most Clickbank products and CPA offers been banned by Adwords? If so, can Bing be used for those?
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                        • Profile picture of the author MaroshIS
                          Yes they banned all CB products. You can advertise only offers that Google likes.
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          • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
            Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

            You just have to set money aside, that you are willing to lose. Not all paid traffic converts, so you have to keep testing to see what is working and what to leave out your campaign.

            At the end of the day you are not really losing money, but buying data to better your campaigns. Alot of people have the misconception that if you pay for traffic, that it will convert, it doesn't work that way. You still have to sort out the bad traffic from the good.
            Good way of looking at it. Ive spent decent amounts of money for traffic that hasn't produced me an ROI... so I'm definitely going to focus on working on a good PPC campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by NateRivers View Post

      Yeah... I wouldn't make any PPC projections until you have some real numbers to base them off of from your own ad spend.

      Not saying you shouldn't try it- if you have funds then go for it. But PPC involves an expensive education to get right.
      Thanks and although I hope to make money right off the bat, I know I will be spending money till I find a campaign that works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave90210
    Anyone care to share how they make money exactly with PPC?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    just not to promote ClickBank products in any IM markets in which a proportion of "your" customers will buy through their own links?
    And you always hear "Gurus" talking about only promote stuff with 100 gravity and up, which are almost all IM Products, which is 100% B.S IMO. They have huge lists so they can play the numbers game and promote these products.

    Once in a while I may throw up a related banner on a site or download page, but never go out of my way to promote IM products from clickbank. Most of the products I promote from clickbank have low gravity, because they are in niches nobody wants to promote.
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      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      And you always hear "Gurus" talking about only promote stuff with 100 gravity and up
      They imagine there's a correlation between gravity and numbers of sales.

      They must be "gurus", though: they say so themselves, and you can't get more authentic than that.

      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Most of the products I promote from clickbank have low gravity, because they are in niches nobody wants to promote.
      I hear you: all my highest-converting and best-selling affiliate products there have always had gravities between 0 and about 5/6: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7002369

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    I hear you: all my highest-converting and best-selling affiliate products there have always had gravities between 0 and about 5/6
    That's the funny thing, those are the same ones I promote, I usually look for atleast 0.2 gravity

    I do the opposite and look for low gravity to gauge how the competition will be. If the sales page looks professional, than I will buy the product to make sure everything is in order and promote it

    All my niche research has been done before I even login into clickbank to look for a product, gravity means crap except for checking the competition
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    the only way you will see 0.08 clicks if you got some long tail keywords or you plan on advertising for terms that aren't very popular. If that's the case you probably won't be getting a lot of traffic. So don't raise your expectations too high.

    Also make sure you have tracking software installed to figure out whats working for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author yesacpow
      I don't want to discourage you but to tell you the truth, it is super hard to get profitable keywords for $0.08 cents especially in the internet marketing niche which is highly competitive.

      Ofcourse your funnel can work if you have a series of high converting emails load up in your autoresponder to convert your leads. The only problem is that it's going to be very hard to get such cheap clicks on bing.

      So don't put your hopes up too much but rather go in with the mentality of getting stats to test and tweak until you have a winning campaign. Remember if it was as easy as you laid it out, almost everyone would already be doing it.

      Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      the only way you will see 0.08 clicks if you got some long tail keywords or you plan on advertising for terms that aren't very popular. If that's the case you probably won't be getting a lot of traffic. So don't raise your expectations too high.

      Also make sure you have tracking software installed to figure out whats working for you.
      Bing is telling me I'll only spend up to 8 cents a click on the keywords I chose, and most seem to have 1000's if not 10,000's of searches per month. I don't know if that's a little or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author yesacpow
        The only way for you to truly know the amount of traffic you'll get is if you start the campaign. So do that, get some results and test and tweak.

        Just make sure that you have some tracking mechanism in place so that you'll be able to find the winning keywords and ditch the losers.


        Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

        Bing is telling me I'll only spend up to 8 cents a click on the keywords I chose, and most seem to have 1000's if not 10,000's of searches per month. I don't know if that's a little or not.
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        • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
          Originally Posted by yesacpow View Post

          The only way for you to truly know the amount of traffic you'll get is if you start the campaign. So do that, get some results and test and tweak.

          Just make sure that you have some tracking mechanism in place so that you'll be able to find the winning keywords and ditch the losers.
          True, and I need to find some tracking solutions I believe prosper 202 could be one I can use. But I'm also looking for other options as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezekielseo
    PPC for me wasn't a big home run i was profiting at least $350 per day, until i saw someone on this forum almost making $1000 per day with media buys.

    I decided to follow him with his path and im glad i did, i'm still keeping my PPC campaigns running but media buys is where a big chunk of money is being earned while getting a good return back.

    Also i didn't do any of this with CB offers, i promoted with CPA free trial offers with $50 and up commissions even though the buyer only has to pay a $7.75 trial fee.

    So if you ever feel comfortable with starting media buys, i suggest you dive right into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by ezekielseo View Post

      PPC for me wasn't a big home run i was profiting at least $350 per day, until i saw someone on this forum almost making $1000 per day with media buys.

      I decided to follow him with his path and im glad i did, i'm still keeping my PPC campaigns running but media buys is where a big chunk of money is being earned while getting a good return back.

      Also i didn't do any of this with CB offers, i promoted with CPA free trial offers with $50 and up commissions even though the buyer only has to pay a $7.75 trial fee.

      So if you ever feel comfortable with starting media buys, i suggest you dive right into it.
      I will definitely try out media buys, but instead of CPA I want to promote clickbank products, for recurring income.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
    Umm... i see a lot of replies, except the most important and obvious one. OP... why "Google Sniper"...?

    You have way, way more chances of making profit by promoting CPA offers.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

      Umm... i see a lot of replies, except the most important and obvious one. OP... why "Google Sniper"...?

      You have way, way more chances of making profit by promoting CPA offers.
      I chose Google Sniper specifically because it has a recurring membership and I'm looking to build residual income and promote recurring products on clickbank instead of CPA or a one shot deal. I want money coming in monthly, so fresh leads every month and and fresh sales every month to take in account for refunds when they come in. Google Sniper was the first product I bought off clickbank and taught me what I know on keyword research and building a simple profitable site, and I believe other people would like the product as well. Im not sure if the chance for a making a profit is a higher, maybe it is. But the financial goal is to have "stable" recurring income.
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        Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

        I chose Google Sniper specifically because it has a recurring membership and I'm looking to build residual income and promote recurring products on clickbank instead of CPA or a one shot deal. I want money coming in monthly, so fresh leads every month and and fresh sales every month to take in account for refunds when they come in. Google Sniper was the first product I bought off clickbank and taught me what I know on keyword research and building a simple profitable site, and I believe other people would like the product as well. Im not sure if the chance for a making a profit is a higher, maybe it is. But the financial goal is to have "stable" recurring income.
        Lol... i see, but listen DaZapper, buddy.. Google Sniper will not convert as well you think it will, in fact, I am almost 100% you will lose money.

        You want to MAKE money... not promote something simply because you are familiar with it.

        again go with CPA
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        • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
          Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

          Lol... i see, but listen DaZapper, buddy.. Google Sniper will not convert as well you think it will, in fact, I am almost 100% you will lose money.

          You want to MAKE money... not promote something simply because you are familiar with it.

          again go with CPA
          okay, well I would be happy if you could point me to a CPA offer that is of recurring income? :confused: but if a product didn't convert how could the creator still be making money from it? when someone makes a product they intend to sell it no? and make sure as best as possible that people will buy. Maybe i should look for another recurring IM related product that I can promote (probably try out myself) but I seriously like google sniper lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
            Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

            okay, well I would be happy if you could point me to a CPA offer that is of recurring income? :confused: but if a product didn't convert how could the creator still be making money from it? when someone makes a product they intend to sell it no? and make sure as best as possible that people will buy. Maybe i should look for another recurring IM related product that I can promote (probably try out myself) but I seriously like google sniper lol.
            Sign up with Neverblue or Peerfly, and others... and TEST, test, test the many different offers they offer. In the world PPC, everything is about testing. You cannot have a predetermined mindset and say "i am going to promote this specific product only!"

            with that mindset, you WILL lose money and give up. PPC works best with CPA offers, NOT Clickbank stuff, trust me. Don't be obsessed with Clickbank just because some products have "recurring income opportunities".

            Speaking of Google Sniper...

            The product still converts to unsuspecting newbies obviously, but the product itself as it's being sold isn't as effective anymore thanks to Google changing the game. Most of these "sniper sites" these days have little to no traffic...

            anyway, i didn't come here to discourage you from your "plan". I am.. like your GPS, i said go right... but go left like most newbies if you wish, lol
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            • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
              Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

              Sign up with Neverblue or Peerfly, and others... and TEST, test, test the many different offers they offer. In the world PPC, everything is about testing. You cannot have a predetermined mindset and say "i am going to promote this specific product only!"

              with that mindset, you WILL lose money and give up. PPC works best with CPA offers, NOT Clickbank stuff, trust me. Don't be obsessed with Clickbank just because some products have "recurring income opportunities".

              Speaking of Google Sniper...

              The product still converts to unsuspecting newbies obviously, but the product itself as it's being sold isn't as effective anymore thanks to Google changing the game. Most of these "sniper sites" these days have little to no traffic...

              anyway, i didn't come here to discourage you from your "plan". I am.. like your GPS, i said go right... but go left like most newbies if you wish, lol
              Very Interesting, I guess I'd have to go with PPC to promote CPA for the short term and quick buck, but I am also building a list, which I would use to promote clickbank products which i want to be my main source of income. The list I have at the moment has been built up by solo ads and is not very responsive, at almost 300 subs. maybe I'll have the best bet building my list through PPC and maybe even keeping the same funnel, but be able to monetize with the later followup messages, same plan but just need good fresh leads, and a better followup series. Like the goal of this post was to make money off the clickbank OTO straightup, but at the same time building a responsive list for the long term. what do you think of that?
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                Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

                Very Interesting, I guess I'd have to go with PPC to promote CPA for the short term and quick buck, but I am also building a list, which I would use to promote clickbank products which i want to be my main source of income. The list I have at the moment has been built up by solo ads and is not very responsive, at almost 300 subs. maybe I'll have the best bet building my list through PPC and maybe even keeping the same funnel, but be able to monetize with the later followup messages, same plan but just need good fresh leads, and a better followup series. Like the goal of this post was to make money off the clickbank OTO straightup, but at the same time building a responsive list for the long term. what do you think of that?
                In that case yes, use PPC to build a list first then sell them later, whatever you want, even Google Sniper if you are building a list in the IM niche. Promoting Google Sniper straight up via PPC won't work out.
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                • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
                  Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

                  In that case yes, use PPC to build a list first then sell them later, whatever you want, even Google Sniper if you are building a list in the IM niche. Promoting Google Sniper straight up via PPC won't work out.
                  Thanks, that's what I was going for, I was just hoping to be able to monetize straight away with a squeeze page funnel, heck when I try maybe I'll see a 1 percent conversion rate with another product instead Google Sniper.
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            Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

            okay, well I would be happy if you could point me to a CPA offer that is of recurring income?
            Generally, there aren't often recurring commission CPA offers -- especially email submits and stuff like that. I usually work directly with advertisers to get recurring commissions. But obviously you'd need to have a lot of traffic coming in and a reputation to work with advertisers that will make you a profit.

            As for the main topic of this thread: test, test, test. PPC is a tough came but can pay you back so many times. It can also lose you a lot of money. So, if you have spare cash to invest into PPC, then go ahead and get started. Consider it your 'enrollment fee' or money you're straight up going to lose because in reality, although you'll find some good campaigns, most will lose money for you. The key is to scale up the minority of campaigns that do actually work for you.
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              Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

              Generally, there aren't often recurring commission CPA offers -- especially email submits and stuff like that. I usually work directly with advertisers to get recurring commissions. But obviously you'd need to have a lot of traffic coming in and a reputation to work with advertisers that will make you a profit.

              As for the main topic of this thread: test, test, test. PPC is a tough came but can pay you back so many times. It can also lose you a lot of money. So, if you have spare cash to invest into PPC, then go ahead and get started. Consider it your 'enrollment fee' or money you're straight up going to lose because in reality, although you'll find some good campaigns, most will lose money for you. The key is to scale up the minority of campaigns that do actually work for you.
              Thanks man, I just wish to see those winning campaigns sooner than later lol
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